Soul Reaver 2 Beta - Analysis

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  • čas přidán 14. 07. 2024
  • Soul Reaver 2 Beta version has many secrets and we uncover many of them in this video.
    Music by Kurt Harland.
    Timestamps:
    00:00 Intro
    01:02 Stability & Graphics
    01:56 Title screens
    02:46 Cut locations
    04:02 HUD & UI
    04:54 Abilities & weapons
    07:08 Spectral Realm
    07:58 Enemies
    09:06 Cutscenes
    10:09 Levels: Sarafan Stronghold
    14:34 Levels: Pillars
    19:34 Levels: Swamp
    24:18 Levels: Dark Forge
    30:47 Levels: Light Forge
    32:32 Levels: Uschtenheim
    33:33 Levels: Air Forge
    37:22 Levels: Janos Retreat
    42:25 Levels: Fire Forge
    46:27 Credits
    The full playlist of videos detailing the content, changes and deleted materials in the Soul Reaver 2 beta builds can be found here: • Soul Reaver 2 Beta
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Komentáře • 59

  • @ARMIV4
    @ARMIV4 Před 2 lety +12

    "Oh no, everytime _you_ show up something monumentally terrible happens! I don't think I have the stomach for it..."
    37:54 *Kain then proceeds to do **_that_*

  • @LeonLupin
    @LeonLupin Před 2 lety +10

    T-posing Vorador gives me life

  • @wareforcoin5780
    @wareforcoin5780 Před 2 lety +8

    Raziel chucks those torches at such high speeds that they are instantly lethal. Lol

    • @bdawgschnarr6623
      @bdawgschnarr6623 Před 2 lety +4

      His physical prowess surpasses what he knew in life

  • @omega1397
    @omega1397 Před 2 lety +15

    Even though there's probably not much there, it'd be cool to get that dreamcast prototype of SR2 one day. One day...

  • @LordProteus
    @LordProteus Před 2 lety +8

    "Asserting dominance I see, Vorador..."

  • @Samm0th
    @Samm0th Před 2 lety +5

    A mod which include the illumination and colours from beta version, the swords on the screen would be an amazing add-on for the PC version.
    I love the entire documentary, this is quality content.

  • @Reacted1991
    @Reacted1991 Před 2 lety +8

    got to love all the random place holder images

  • @fedupN
    @fedupN Před 2 lety +7

    First 9 seconds in and that music...man. amazing. Sensory memories like a muther trucker.

  • @m0nsterzer0
    @m0nsterzer0 Před 2 lety +8

    T posing Vorador has a menacing aura

  • @Hyperion-5744
    @Hyperion-5744 Před 2 lety +6

    In the retail version there's a large block of solid texture above janos retreat.

  • @RozzWilliamsScholarsSociety

    Somewhere out there, is a guy telling people "My car was in Soul Reaver 2".
    Anyways, its cool to see the vampire execution scene that was left out of the final and even better to know that a second scene was intended.
    I've been a fan of the series since Blood Omen 1.
    Soul Reaver 2 felt like a huge chore to play though. Very different than the first one. Fewer bosses. The game was built entirely upon upgrading your reaver and solving puzzles.
    I have not played Soul Reaver 2 in almost a decade. It's the only game in the series I've neglected to maintain ownership of. Blood Omen 2, while inferior, I somewhat enjoy.
    Defiance was a great tie up to all the loose ends.
    I guess I like BO1, SR1 and Defiance.
    Soul Reaver 2 just didn't cut the mustard for me. Probably due to the hype after SR1.
    Early PS2 title so I can't complain too much.

    • @RainaAudron
      @RainaAudron  Před 2 lety +1

      Haha, yep, that's Daniel Cabuco's car 😂

  • @Mangomesh
    @Mangomesh Před 2 lety +7

    This is awesome stuff, thanks for making this video to enlighten us. 'Few know the truth'... quoting from this great masterpiece of a game.

  • @Casketkrusher_
    @Casketkrusher_ Před 2 lety +5

    I remember playing the demo of the air forge back in the days and I have searched for that build since then, really cool it's been found, although the gameplay video on the demo disc I got with my PS2 back then (it had Devil May Cry and Jak & Daxter on there as well) had some more differences to the beta build that's been found. Like its really minor but for example the barriers that spawn when you get attacked by those cyborg alien looking monster has no lazer effects and also some thralls are present on the road after you get out of the castle in the beginning. So I must believe there's even a older build out there. And in the dark forge there are also statues seen in the demo video which also aren't present in this build.
    I play the whole franchise back to back each year and they never get dull.

  • @MadamFoogie
    @MadamFoogie Před 2 lety +7

    Fascinating stuff! SR2 is my favorite in the series, and I've played it dozens of times over. That Sean Connery placeholder was a real gem. Kind of bummer they got rid of the female vampire's execution in the beginning. I feel like that would have added to the atmosphere of dread, and brought more urgency upon seeing all those impaled corpses. I figured those vampires were long dead, but having more than just Kain and Vorador knocking around creates a greater sense of personal responsibility.
    Sidenote, sorry for going off topic. Lately, my PS2 retail version of the game has softlocked itself during the air forge, so I'm pretty disappointed. The final mouth, after activation, re-shuts itself so I can't float to the top. Janos' aerie is my favorite segment, and it's very frustrating not to be able to experience it. I wonder if any of you guys have encountered this issue? It's so strange that this happens, because I've completed the game on that same disk many times before. I have also experienced the dark forge door glitch on that same disk, and now know how to avoid the problem. But this one has me stumped.

    • @damdumah2552
      @damdumah2552 Před 2 lety +4

      Got the same problem but it's the dark forge once I get the dark reaver the door that leads to voradore is shut and won't open

    • @MadamFoogie
      @MadamFoogie Před 2 lety +3

      @@damdumah2552 It's the crows. If you scare them away, there's a chance that glitch will trigger. Be nicer to the crows from now on. ^^

    • @RainaAudron
      @RainaAudron  Před 2 lety +3

      Thank you! :) Agreed, shame on the vampire executions being removed.
      Weird glitch! I have not experienced this, I must say. Is the draft in the main room not enough for Raziel to float upwards then? Damn, the only thing I suggest is to reload the save and try again.

    • @MadamFoogie
      @MadamFoogie Před 2 lety +2

      @@RainaAudron Yeah, and it doesn't matter which mouth I choose. The final one will just shut off as soon as I leave the room. I tried reloading with no success. Even tried it from a much earlier save, and somehow it still happened. It's such a lousy place to get that glitch, because I have to complete the entire air forge just to see if it will trigger. That's a pretty long segment, and I'm sick of re-doing the platform puzzles. Might just have to get a new disc. :\

    • @Samm0th
      @Samm0th Před měsícem +1

      Many years ago when i got on my hands my PS2, always got some freezing with this game.
      Actually it happened when i reached the pillars for the first time, it took me a few resets for make it functional. And the game was impossible to pass when you travel for the first time to the future.
      I got a theory: PS2 port it's unstable. PC version was always the best way to play this game.

  • @Hyperion-5744
    @Hyperion-5744 Před 2 lety +7

    I've been waiting years to see the soul reaver 2 beta. I can't find anything about legacy of kain defiance beta version.

  • @KyleMisko
    @KyleMisko Před 2 lety +6

    This is so awesome.. thank you so much for making this! I know that it takes so much time to properly make a video like this..
    Didn't think initially that I would watch it until the end, but this was so engaging to watch.. also it's a great retrospective overall on Soul Reaver 2, and gave me yet another chance to appreciate the beautiful locations & visuals, and narrative of the story once more..

  • @NomaranTheAlchemist
    @NomaranTheAlchemist Před 2 lety +3

    Lots to take in but ill section my thoughts for each of the things that take my interest
    To be honest I might have a personal theory that the swamps might've been home to a possible unknown entity or enemy that would damage anyone who stepped into the swamps, probably some kind of swamp predator or something. But the most logical reason is mostly because most npcs cannot swim the second they touch water the AI believes that the enemy is in deep water and thus dies immediately.
    For the vampire cutscenes I think you were right that the first encounter was removed because from most players of Soul Reaver we are basically still running high on "All vampires must die" before eventually Kain basically goes "You should really take a closer look around you" and you basically see just how horrendous humanity truly is. Like you said it would've been way too early to make you sympathetic to the Vamprie's plight until much later when you reach the Age of the Sarafan Crusade.
    *Vorador T-Poses to Raziel asserting his dominance* "I see my Reputation Proceeds me!" But seriously though im glad they used the more serious tones for Vorador because the beta is far too casual especially for Vorador towards a random stranger especially Raziel.
    Regarding the Air Forge I honestly would've liked the moon rather than the spiral of clouds we got in the final product but I guess it makes more sense to have that rather than watch with confusion as we can see the topography of the moon lol.
    Overall thanks for showing some of the beta elements of Soul Reaver 2. Although to be frank despite my love for the first Soul Reaver's beta elements, Soul Reaver 2's beta elements in some parts feel really out of place especially the photos of real people and such as placeholders I mean I get that placeholders are always used in game development but at least most are based on the elements of the game itself. I might not be making any sense but that is not your fault as you are just showing us this lost content of the game. Thanks for your hard work Raina and sorry for the essay lol.

  • @ericdanielski4802
    @ericdanielski4802 Před 2 lety +8

    Nice video.

  • @cipher2508
    @cipher2508 Před 2 lety +6

    I will not set foot in the spectral realm until get my final LOK game

  • @MCcreedLP
    @MCcreedLP Před 2 lety +4

    i somehow missed the spirit forge in all these years :D thx raina

  • @VintageGameRoom
    @VintageGameRoom Před 2 lety +6

    Great stuff!
    Raina, I'm not sure we deserve you.
    A huge thank you once again!!

    • @RainaAudron
      @RainaAudron  Před 2 lety +2

      Aww, thank you! Glad you like these :)

  • @soulreaver1983
    @soulreaver1983 Před 2 lety +8

    Outstanding 👍😎

  • @XeZrunner
    @XeZrunner Před 2 lety +3

    Thank you for the detailed analysis, enjoyed it! I'm very glad we have a Beta version of SR2, thought we'd never see anything prerelease.
    Still wish we had something of the Dreamcast version.. Looks like nothing is impossible, perhaps we'll see that too at some point :D

  • @soulreaver1983
    @soulreaver1983 Před 2 lety +4

    Outstanding video thanks so much for uploading it!😃👍

  • @frankdenosgoth
    @frankdenosgoth Před 2 lety +5

    👏👏👏

  • @sammlerkiste7970
    @sammlerkiste7970 Před 2 lety +3

    Beautiful like always.

  • @fullmoondagger
    @fullmoondagger Před 2 lety +2

    Thank you so much for such a good video!!! Truly a treat to see new uploads, thank you so so so much for sharing all these super cool finds 💞💞

  • @fredericjuliard4261
    @fredericjuliard4261 Před 2 lety +4

    Merci.

  • @sbonel3224
    @sbonel3224 Před 2 lety +2

    Thanks for this video. Amazing analysis.

  • @LegacyOfMCF
    @LegacyOfMCF Před rokem +1

    Another great video. Thanks for sharing

  • @rgarciaf071
    @rgarciaf071 Před 2 lety +3

    I love LoK games but SR2 kinda let me down by not having proper boss fights compared SR1, thanks for sharing it is really interesting to know about this beta build

  • @Coldshade
    @Coldshade Před 2 lety +1

    24:08 there is nothing important here in this scene, if you skip this error by changing the name of the file. The camera just fly closer by these two tents and that's all

    • @RainaAudron
      @RainaAudron  Před 2 lety +1

      Correct. Too bad there's not more to do with the vampires.

  • @hunivox
    @hunivox Před 2 lety +3

    16:33 i play soul reaver 2 since 6 years ago and i just find this out, pretty interesting tbh

  • @Death_Korps_Officer
    @Death_Korps_Officer Před 2 lety +2

    You could make an entire new game with all the cut content of all games combined. Or well, GAMES.

  • @wallywarning8687
    @wallywarning8687 Před 2 lety

    GG

  • @DARKSEYLOS
    @DARKSEYLOS Před 2 lety +1

    QUE TIENE DE NUEVO? NI SIQUIERA SE ACERCA A LA CALIDAD GRÁFICA DEL DEFIANCE. ME GUSTÓ MUCHO LA RECREACIÓN DE ESCENA DEL SR2 EN LOS PILARES, HAZLAS TODAS DE DOTAS LAS SAGAS. SOBRE TODO LAS DEL BLOOD OMEN. GRACIAS POR TU ESFUERZO

    • @dasnurk
      @dasnurk Před 2 lety +3

      Compadre, se da cuenta que estan mostrando el Alpha? La version de desarrollo del SR2 original? No es una nueva version, y no la hicieron ellos.

  • @josephsouza9599
    @josephsouza9599 Před 4 měsíci +1

    I dont remember those npc vampires when I played the game back in the day, were they completely cut in the retail version? Like were there any living vampires seen in the game that raziel would come across? or did you just find their corpses in retail?

    • @RainaAudron
      @RainaAudron  Před 4 měsíci

      They were completely cut and only impaled ones found in the release. One remains out of bounds near the Pillars.

    • @josephsouza9599
      @josephsouza9599 Před 4 měsíci

      @@RainaAudron i have ONE more question thats been bugging me, are you able to tell me if this is cut content? czcams.com/users/clipUgkxj0MUO0Ibqs1oQJXJ9hfmADniRB9xEnPj its from the first trailer I ever saw of the game as a kid, I dont have any memory of this in the retail version of the first game, its just a 6 second clip showing a giant moving female statue ( i think)

    • @RainaAudron
      @RainaAudron  Před 4 měsíci

      @@josephsouza9599 That is the Water Glyph statue in the Human Citadel.

    • @josephsouza9599
      @josephsouza9599 Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@RainaAudron thanks so much for taking the time to check it out!!

  • @perplexingperceptions8888

    Like 130.

  • @hunivox
    @hunivox Před 2 lety +3

    17:03 i don't get it, why did it get deleted?

    • @RainaAudron
      @RainaAudron  Před 2 lety +3

      I think the reasoning was that it swayed Raziel´s opinion to the vampire side too fast, but still a shame it got cut.

  • @bdawgschnarr6623
    @bdawgschnarr6623 Před 2 lety +2

    Bruh all this LOK content dude whoever leakin all this must kno sumn we done my and I don’t wanna overhype myself either 🤨funny tho huh?

    • @wareforcoin5780
      @wareforcoin5780 Před 2 lety +2

      Blood Omen just got a GOG release, it's all but confirmed that they're working on Soul Reaver's stability, and old builds are cropping up. It might not be getting a new game, but I'm confident that there's something going on with the franchise.

    • @bdawgschnarr6623
      @bdawgschnarr6623 Před 2 lety

      @@wareforcoin5780 well said