What a fantastic grouping of planar drivers. I’m really glad you put to rest the whole re-tuning myth surrounding the mp145. Your findings were my suspicions all along. Thank you for all u do for the community Tony. We love it when you get carried away. It shows your passion for the hobby.
Nice you cleared the silent revision thing on the mp145. I didn't buy one in recent sales because of that. I'll wait for the next sales season and choose either that or the shozy depending on price.
Best planar iem comparison. A good balance of measurement and experience. Absolutely love the sound of my P1 Max, it is just sublime in sound. However, like yourself I find the nozzle too short, same as the S12. One of Panda's 2-pin connectors i going loose, so may need to replace. The MP145 looks enticing though bassier than the P1 Max. The tuning of the S15 looks closest to the P1 Max, but very pricey. Makes me interested to know what the P1 Plus sounds like as it is even flatter in its curve.
I tried many planars - but settled on P1Max (second, the first ones had problems with bass). And I will say - after 300-400 hours of burning, the HF of Panda are greatly tamed. If on the new ones I used 4-5mm tips (such as kbear07 and Sancai), then after 300 hours I began to miss the high frequencies even with the most open ones (7mm), such as Latex, Spring and Azla Original. At the same time with Panda there were Shuoer S12 - there are too bright high frequencies against the backdrop of a retracted midrange (not enough emotions), and the same Tea2 loses even more strongly in the midrange.
I actually like the look of the stock cable. I am using thin cables on many of my earphones and they work very well, especially on the go. So long as the impedance is .5 Ohm or below, cable is pliable and non-microphonic, it's good.
That stock cable is a deal killer at this price point, imho. There's are just too many solid alternatives that deliver better value. I bought my MP145 for US$125 on sale, about 7 mo. ago, on AliEx.
I recently got mp145 for 125 Euros. Already finding best fitting, but great sounding. Way better than 7hz Timeless. Which tips/filter work better for you Tony?
I dont see how anyone can justify any of these other planars when the Artti t10 exists for $45. Mp145 were an instant return for me. Divinus velvet tips are a great pairing
great details as always. I'm new in the hobby, what's a planar sound? I have the NiceHCK F1 PRO i find it clean but too clean. I'm coming from an Aria 2. I use it for busy music like metal.
Can you please tell us if Aria 2 is better than f1 pro? Please explain in bass and clarity and fun if possible and if F1 pro is better in anything 😊 thanks 😊
My ears are highly sensitive to planar timbre, especially on the S12, that have an underlying metallic sound representation to me, can you make out this problem with any of your planar iems? Some people can hear it, some don't know what I'm talking about, just wondering if you've ever sat down with a planar iem and gone, "Yuck, that's totally wrong!"?
Great vid Tony! I have all those sets but didn't get the P20 (got the P10, and my mp145 is the TI version). To be honest I still enjoy the PR1 hifi, and my retuned pr3 (bass cannon). What do you think of the KZ drivers compared to these newer generation planar drivers? Cheers!
What a fantastic grouping of planar drivers. I’m really glad you put to rest the whole re-tuning myth surrounding the mp145. Your findings were my suspicions all along. Thank you for all u do for the community Tony. We love it when you get carried away. It shows your passion for the hobby.
Tony you are the live LEGEND period.
Very good breakdown and information about the market of Chi-Fi planars. Great review and comparison as always 🙏
Nice you cleared the silent revision thing on the mp145. I didn't buy one in recent sales because of that. I'll wait for the next sales season and choose either that or the shozy depending on price.
Best planar iem comparison. A good balance of measurement and experience. Absolutely love the sound of my P1 Max, it is just sublime in sound. However, like yourself I find the nozzle too short, same as the S12. One of Panda's 2-pin connectors i going loose, so may need to replace. The MP145 looks enticing though bassier than the P1 Max. The tuning of the S15 looks closest to the P1 Max, but very pricey. Makes me interested to know what the P1 Plus sounds like as it is even flatter in its curve.
I love this set!!!
very nice one! You recommended the ARTTI T10, I got it and I am very happy!
“I have got a serious mental case” 😂😂, kn9w that feeling.
hey Tony, you skipped the kiwiears Melody!
I tried many planars - but settled on P1Max (second, the first ones had problems with bass). And I will say - after 300-400 hours of burning, the HF of Panda are greatly tamed. If on the new ones I used 4-5mm tips (such as kbear07 and Sancai), then after 300 hours I began to miss the high frequencies even with the most open ones (7mm), such as Latex, Spring and Azla Original. At the same time with Panda there were Shuoer S12 - there are too bright high frequencies against the backdrop of a retracted midrange (not enough emotions), and the same Tea2 loses even more strongly in the midrange.
Great review. Thanks for sharing.
Actually, I tend to use heavier cables for heavy IEMs and vice versa with the lighter ones. They counterbalance each other to help secure the fit.
Which light weight modular cables do you have? Looking for a silver or gold one.
I actually like the look of the stock cable. I am using thin cables on many of my earphones and they work very well, especially on the go. So long as the impedance is .5 Ohm or below, cable is pliable and non-microphonic, it's good.
What cable do you have connecting ur tp50 to the amp? Its so pretty.
I bought the Artti T10 during the last sale, hope I like them.
They're going for under US$60 on sale on AliEx these days. That's a steal for this level of performance.
Was it Kiwi Ears Melody that uses 13 something mm planar? Must be different enough from the rest.
Kz is 13.3
That stock cable is a deal killer at this price point, imho. There's are just too many solid alternatives that deliver better value. I bought my MP145 for US$125 on sale, about 7 mo. ago, on AliEx.
Please do P1 Max II vs original P1 Max.
I recently got mp145 for 125 Euros. Already finding best fitting, but great sounding. Way better than 7hz Timeless. Which tips/filter work better for you Tony?
Your ears must be very different from mine - I consider the T10 shells some of the best fitting shells I've tried (among the 100 or so iems).
I saw something indicating the new driver was actually cheaper than the older 14.2?
I dont see how anyone can justify any of these other planars when the Artti t10 exists for $45. Mp145 were an instant return for me. Divinus velvet tips are a great pairing
Try the penon grey green tips it works the best with me 😊
Waiting for supertfz force 1 and tiandirenhe td15 review🫡
great details as always. I'm new in the hobby, what's a planar sound? I have the NiceHCK F1 PRO i find it clean but too clean. I'm coming from an Aria 2. I use it for busy music like metal.
Clean is you could say is a characteristic of a planar driver, It is great for detail/treble but less so for the lower frequencies/bass.
Can you please tell us if Aria 2 is better than f1 pro? Please explain in bass and clarity and fun if possible and if F1 pro is better in anything 😊 thanks 😊
My ears are highly sensitive to planar timbre, especially on the S12, that have an underlying metallic sound representation to me, can you make out this problem with any of your planar iems? Some people can hear it, some don't know what I'm talking about, just wondering if you've ever sat down with a planar iem and gone, "Yuck, that's totally wrong!"?
$60 for the f1 pro in the last ali sale
Hi Sir you have 3 set of mp145 is there a retuning happened? I also had one... sorry i can't watch the whole video i have slow data connection...
Hey man Don Henley will collect his pound of flesh. Demonetisation song bro.
I paid 120€ for the p20
Great vid Tony! I have all those sets but didn't get the P20 (got the P10, and my mp145 is the TI version). To be honest I still enjoy the PR1 hifi, and my retuned pr3 (bass cannon).
What do you think of the KZ drivers compared to these newer generation planar drivers? Cheers!