Nano Reef 300 Day Update - still NO Water Change, Dosing, or Protein Skimmer
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Should come with a warning to new reefers, doesn’t work if you don’t cycle your tank properly, or over stock, or over feed, or if your lighting schedule is not bang on, or if your light intensity is off, or if you’ve selected the wrong corals, or if you are not jake Adams. It just won’t work if you are new reefers, stick with weekly water changes
He didn't cycle the tank properly... He used bottled bacteria and added coral and fish on day one.
@@Philsta007 yeah and if you’re not Jake Adam’s it won’t work haha
Water changes are overrated, even for novice reefers. It's something that works great when facing a specific issue, but they are far from perfect for preventive purposes. The reef aquarium hobby is a lot more forgiving than most people give it credit for, and a new reefer can absolutely follow basic guidelines to keeping a reef tank with no water changes.
I did that when I was 12 and I didn't even have CZcams to seek help - Just a flawed book lol
@@MichaelHolmgaard I had more issues when I did water changes versus I did not do them because of swings I caused replacing the water. I go 1month between each change. It makes it harder to clean equipment though haha.
I dose all trace elements, calcium, magnesium, and only feed it.
Amen
You Jake are a clearly true PROFESSIONAL. Thanks for sharing how easy having such a simple nano setup can actually be.
Jake you don't have to be giving us ground breaking discoveries each week, part of what makes this channel so good is that it has the personal content that really inspires and drives you.
Noticed there is a screen top on this now. I too have a Red Sea Max Nano the same age as this one. It had a Plexiglas top and about a month ago got switched to a screen. I was having trouble with temp swings, evaporation has gone up but I think the screen/open top has helped with the heath of the corals. I had a ducan that was closed up for almost two months that I thought was for sure not going to make it. He is now open and making an incredible come back.
It's Still looking Fresh ! Can we also appreciate the growth on that plant lol .. keep it up jake great work.
Thanks for the update 🙏🏼
Almost looks like one knows what they are doing😉. Beautiful nano enjoyed the vid man.
Looking great! after seeing Sanjays tank with no water changes for decades i think this is a way over looked way of reefkeeping.
Amazing. Thanks for update. Very unique. Only you can do this Jake. Just magic.
This inspired me to try something like this with My 55 gallon “fowlr” tank when I reset it. Now it’s been 6 months no water change and it’s actually been running better than the tank I was obviously looking after with weekly maintenance.
Glad you are feeding more. From January through July this year I did a similar setup with a 10 gallon and a HOB filter. After 6 weeks my alk had dropped to 5.7 so I started using Kalk in my top off at 1/4 tsp per gallon, which over time brought the alk back to mid 8s and kept it there. The only issues I had was a Duncan going from 4 heads to about 12 and my sarcophyton and pair of saddleback clowns DOUBLED in size! Overachieving bastard tank. The leather shaded out a chalice and was my only loss.
I have since moved into an Aquatop Eco Recife 40 but I’m using a X1 to dose all for reef. The second gen skimmer is a nice luxury I did not have on the 10!
what's your experience with all for reef? I'm starting to need a source of calc and alkalinity and it looks perfect for my nano
@@jarenstevens9218 In my experience all for reef came with swings I like 2 part more
It was very interesting watching the playlist of this nano since my wife just bought me the waterbox 20, it looks awesome, the one thing I’ll love to know it’s the complete light settings if you don’t mind me asking 👍
Welldone guys for doing this brave experiment, just a question, corals are consuming calcium and minerals all the time from this 300 days water would worth if we could make some water analysis to see how far we are now comparing it to the original analysis when you started, this will give us a great idea about chemistry of water over time .
Been waiting for this!!! by far my favorite tank of yours jake !!! This tank got me
Into reefing
Jake have followed these updates with great interest.Beginning to think might be best to empty the cupboard below my system and stay away from the supplement shelves at my LFS.This is Nature saying leave me alone and "I will be alright".
The tank looks pretty good for not doing anything. That’s awesome.
🤣
I love this little tank! I know others have asked for params...I'm excited to see those.
I mentioned them in the previous video, alk was low like 5dKH, calcium was a little bit low under 400, magnesium was normal, and zero nitrate
got a no water Change tank up for 8 month now it's going really good. Only got a power head and heater in a 25gallon and a prime 16 light. (The coral are doing good not growing to fast tho) only got one peppermint shrimp and clean up crew. no fishes tho yet
Man as you said, this is 2020 out of wack is the definition of this year.
Great set of videos! Any chance you can tell me what your light settings are? I feel like it's somewhat important but I don't think you went into detail in the build.
I like this tank, as well as the low maintenance low flow tank you have... at home? The bare bottom one. Kind of amazing how effortless reef tanks can be under certain circumstances.
Great video I was wondering if you can list all the corals you placed in this tank.
beautiful tank, nanos are my favorite and coupled with low maintenance its freakin awesome
I have done saltwater tanks for years. I honestly have found that the less that I touch a tank the better it has done. I had a 55gal tank that I didn't do anything except top offs for a year and it thrived! Corals grew like crazy. I only tore it down because I had to move.
Seriously? Dosing any trace element?
Amazing simplicity. Thank you!
I've seen tanks overrun with coralline. Depressing to me. Is there anything that eats coralline?
Urchins eat coralline
Jake you've said for filtration, all you have in the back is nothing except for a pump, and a coarse sponge. Did/do you use the filter sock that came with the kit or anything else?
This is very inspiring to start my own reef
Hey Jake, great tank !! How is it that there is no nuisance algae growing ?? Or did i miss that video lol
Would love to see an update on this tank. Is there one coming?
Would like to see how you move this aquarium. My daughter has a 20G cube on a stand and wants it moved out of her room. Need advice and recommendations.
Hi on next update could you re explain whats going on in the rear sump. Thanks
hey jake, i would love to see an update on this system! i based my new tank built on this tank and also on sanjay's nano, also a redsea but a 34gallon tank..
Good stuff so simple yet still beautiful just goes to show we panic to much with our marine tanks
Great looking tank! At what point are you going to address the flat worms if at all? Aren't they bad for the overall eco-system?
I’ve recently gone against 12 years of reef keeping, no skimmer no carbon dosing, just feeding and dosing calcium kh and mag :) have had no cyano no dinos no algae :) love it keep the great videos coming !! We need more
Missing something here...water change or no?
@@nmjhd1234 no water change at all
Peter Burke refugium? Thanks for the tip i want to attempt something similar as i am lazy lol
Did you do a one year update?
And did you use RODI water to start with?
I see several types of RODI filters, with 2,3 and 4 units, what is a good starter unit?
Amazing, I'm gonna start doing monthly water change for my 15g lps/soft coral tank with only hob refugium.
how did it went?
How it did ?
@@B1-66ER Mine does well doing it monthly. I add trace elements, and major nutrients like alkalinity, calcium, magnesium. I notice I loose color without trace. I follow the bottle or if somthing looks less colorful I increase it.
@@davidmurphy4672 do you have any other filtration or just the HOB? I dont run skimmer and I dont really know if I need it or no.. thanks for responding
just wondering. how did you manage to not get a nitrite spike at the start 4 weeks? like, im about to set one of those tanks up for the 1st time and since ive had so many problems with my freshwater tank im kinda scared to not being able to do a quick waterchange on it.
The only thing that im going to keep in the tank (90L) 2 clowns, 1 bandit or cleaner shrimp and probably a goby with ofcourse some easy corals
Really impressive tank! I would be interested in whether you are running the lamp at 100% of its power or less?
way below full power, 8 hour period, mostly blue spectrum
I have a question what can I do to encourage my hammer 🔨.to fully open up .I’ve tried moving it to the middle of the tank & to the send bed I’ve also tried adjusting the light & flow and still not opening up, it’s only been a few days since I got it. I also brought some Duncan and they all opened up
Hi Jake thanks for the video, I wanted to know if you’re cleaning the glass, do you have a magnetic cleaner in there somewhere that you’ve left in the tank the whole time so you didn’t have to put your hands in? Also would you think about adding a small urchin if you wanted to fight the coralline without doing anything major?
An urchin would bulldoze corals around, and the coralline is too thin to be nutritious. I do clean the glass either with an algae scraper magnet but sometimes with long handled scraper
Reef Builders 🤣 my urchins absolutely do bulldoze my corals around
I'd really be interested in seeing parameters... Maybe at the 12 month mark?
Really love this 👌
Great going 👌 👌
I'd have to imagine you need to dose at some point, simply because you do have stony corals that will suck calcium and alkalinity out of the water, you are now seeing coraline algae which will suck calcium and alkalinity out of the water. Unless you're going for the approach of "yeah you guys don't need to grow anymore" and not sure that will allow them to survive long term.
Plus that planeria, it's never a problem until it is.
Is it possible to install a chiller to this tank? Could you please advise how to do this? Thank you!
Time for an update 👀
Hi Love the videos. Maybe when you consider dosen You could use All for reef by tropic marine
I'm 2 months in with my first saltwater tank, I've had freshwater aquariums before, but never tested water parameters until now, I've been fighting the nitrogen cycle and trying to keep the levels of ammonia and nitrites at bay with water changes a couple times a week. Am I wasting my time? Do I need to worry? I have 2 clowns, an algae blenny and a few crabs. 40 gallon breeder. Any feedback would be much appreciated, just curious as to how a tank gets set up in one day and left to coast for 9 months. Awesome tank! Looks Amazing
if you watch the earliest videos, I dosed with BrightWell microbacter start XLM
What all living do you have in the tank? What did you use to start the tank?
As stated by many others here, we reeealy want to know how long it lasted (or if it's still going?) Even if it didn't make the 365 day mark it's still awesome! :)
Still running, an update as been posted
I have a 55g going 2 years now with no water changes or dosing just top off with fresh water every week
What is your parameters Alk, calc and mg?
@@Iuryfer honestly I haven't checked my water parameters since I stopped the water changes. The tank was well established for a couple years before I stopped the w.c. and it's mostly mushroom corals a handful of fish and couple turbo snails and a sandsifting starfish. I only feed once a day I scrape the glass 2 times a year with gloves on. I feel with me not sticking my bare hands in there and messing with the tank much also not over feeding it helps alot with the tank staying stable.
Did you ever do a year vid on this one? Don't see one out there-
You mentioned no topping off? How do you deal with water evaporation?
I think people tinker too much and do more harm than good. Just leave it alone and most of the time it will do well if you were thoughtful with how you set it up. It turned into an impressive tank.
was that actual real live rock and sand when you started it? If not to what do you think you owe the success to?
thanks!!!!
You did have a protien skimmer on this stank, the built in one at the back but the title says no skimmer. Did you remove it and when and why?
Jake great tank , no recomended to newbies to hobby not to do water changes ,only experts and carefully can do it
I’m curious as to where the parameters sit. Particularly, alk cal and mag after 9 months of no dosing or water changes
I'd be curious to see the parameters charted by-weekly from the beginning until now.
many, many years ago I had similar setup as my first reef tank with softies, similar to Jake's tank. Must tell I changed 20% of water once in two years! And never made a single water test :) which now when I think is kind of ridiculous :)) Most interesting part - all corals did very well and after two years all rocks where overgrown almost completely.
I dont think these corals consume a lot of nutrients
I’ll post them up in a couple days
@@thedarkotter2295 would love to know it too.
Does the tank lid is diy or come with the redsea nano max ??
Nice Series
Jake what tank is this? Great vids
ever think of using protein skimmer or hangon back refugium?
I am not a big fan of letting my fish going hungry to keep the polution down. I would rather feed more and over do the filtration.
People talk about the "ugly stage", but has you mention, low nutriment import is a key. Especially frozen food, I control the amount I add, most of the time its dry food (when I can)
In my nano reef competition youtube playlist I show everything I do, all the process and I'm currently filming this week on "how I prepare the aquarium for corals" and after testing the water, I realize I wouldn't even need to make a water change, the parameter are almost spot on. However I notice a drop of alkalinity, probably because of bacteria and I dosed a little bit to counter balance. I will add a doser even before having any corals (weird I know) Because I will introduce couple sps birdnest along the way.
Nitrate 1, phosphate very low and chaetomorpha to balance the frozen food I added for my yellow clown goby were the key to avoid any ugly stage.
I'm trying to be very careful with this series since I document everything and I know some beginner will see those videos so trying to educate at the same time.
Didn't that system come with a mini protein skimmer or did you remove it?
it does but I haven't turned it on since the first month, didn't have much to pull but I also just left it in place
Love it! Would you consider useing All for reef on this?
never used it, my first step for mineral replenishment would be very slow kalkwasser dosing
Nice update dude 🐠 🤙
Looks like there’s low flow towards the GSP. I’m trying something similar right now. Have you noticed any change in coloration or growth, comparing it to GSP that receives high flow?
I haven't seen flow affect the coloration of GSP
How do I prevent or remove flatworms? First time reefer!! I would like to keep them out if possible??
Are you satesfied with that light? I am in process of buying new light but don't know what to take :)
I miss you so much Jake, hope you have your wonderful time diving in heavenly corals garden! You such a big inspiration for me in this salty hobby! 😢 After all this time my man, I still can't believe that you are not here with us any more, and today, when I see this video, can not describe how much weight on chest! 😢 r.i.p Jake!
What happened to jake?
Contrary to what you'll read online, that trachyphyllia isn't growing because its flesh needs flow to fully expand. That flow isn't nearly what it should be, which is usually very high for nano tanks in general.
Did you take off the protein skimmer? I thought they came with one.
Didn't you have bubble algae at one time? How did you eradicate the bubble algae?
I would like to know what kind of filtration do you have? Also what does the sump contains.
nothing back in the filter chamber but a pump, and a coarse sponge that might as well be absent
What does your light program look like?
How does the calcium level remain above 420 ppm? I have a 15 gallon reef with mostly torches and montipora. My calcium drops from 20ppm every week that I don't dose or change water.
is crazy how you could do that with no problem. i am doing water change weekly and only have 3 fish in my 45 red sea and i have algae everywhere with my hammer coral dying slowly!!! HOW!
Hi. How do you feed the corals?
very well
which susbtrate was used in this tank?
How do you feed your corals?
How do you keep the water so Chrystal clear?
Did you change the filter pad/sock? Great update!
Following
nothing to maintain in the back but a coarse sponge which I still haven't cleaned
What if we fed our corals foods high in "locked in" forms of calcium, magnesium and trace elements etc. Like loading feeder insects for exotic reptiles etc as a very basic example
I see what you're trying to get at, but that's not how corals take in their minerals, they need to be in the water column to participate in the biochemistry
@@ReefBuildersVideo why? They must have a feeding response for a reason other than protein and energy absorption in the wild and if they can feed rather than relying soley on zooxanthellae they must be able to metabolise the major and minor trace elements present in live foods. I just think we place too much emphasis on placing pure and elevated suspended elements into our water mixes which aren't present in natural environments.
I'd love to see you do an episode on commonly used foods and their analytical contents. Love your videos.
wdym not present in the wild lots of
dying corals evey day and skeletons will release calc and elements (u think phytoplankton has calc mg and carbonate imbedded in them? )
@@tomthebomb3189 I'm saying that some do yes, of course they do. I'm not disputing dosing and the intake of calc mag etc etc or it's presence in the water column. I'm simply saying that in the wild we have a far more diverse range of foods being eaten and metabolised, not just absorbed by many corals. To say that corals only grow from dead corals as a source is an unsustainable cycle . It's part of it but not all of it 😊
@@Furfeatherandclaw yes agreed plankton in our "closed" environment gets little space to populate and gets removed by skimmers and fleece rollers and we only target feed corals liquid phyto with a pipette
How has the calcium and alkalinity not dropped? I set up the same tank and my alk dropped to 5 and had to dose
It rides around 4-5 dKH but the corals have acclimated to it (I presume)
Can you explain the filtration system and all components?
there's nothing back there but a pump, a coarse sponge, and a skimmer that isn't running
How do you keep your sandbed so clean without siphoning?
Feed very little and low light intensity
Hello, i'm a big fan of youm hopefully can see you in real life and get your level :)
Big fan from Viet Nam
Not saying I don’t believe in dosing and all the extra stuff. But I started with dry rock and live sand, and barley a month into it, I have brown algae growth, two clowns, one cleaner shrimp, and four hermit crabs. They’re all doing well. And my shrimp keeps molting. I’m not going to lie though I still test my water. Before I add any livestock. Wanting to add corals soon. But don’t know where to start with a 29 gallon tank, and hate how expensive my local fish store is. I was considering saving some deflated anemones from Petco. But didn’t know if it would be a wise choice if I was to get corals in the future.
definitely start with healthy livestock, especially if this is your first tank.
Reef Builders well I just had a huge slap in the face. Was going to get some corals today, had my water tested, and my ammonia, nitrites, and nitrate levels were awful!. Had to hurry and condition the water and get some good bacteria in there. I’m definitely a hardhead guy. Thought I was doing everything right and then BAM!.
Love the videos though. I don’t know how you’ve kept that tank going without doing any water changes or dosing. That’s amazing.
mighty jet minis are dope
Is there an update on this project?
Do you change filter media??
Next update could you please show us the amount of food you feed?
You never mentioned the factory skimmer. Is it running from day 1?
I ran it a little bit for a few weeks after the cycling had finished, but it didn’t pull much so I didn’t even clean it out after I turned it off.
I’d love to see an Icp test done on this tank
100% this
What alternative return pump would you add to the Max Nano?
One of the small controllable DC pumps, but preferably one that is programmable, so not too many options there
You doing a 2021 update?
Hi Jake, may i have the update for 1 year of this tank?
Can you please post more updates on this tank more often. Even if it's just broll we just want to see this beauty all the time