1: The Habsburg Monarchy
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- čas přidán 15. 07. 2024
- In parts one and two of 'Anatomy of Austria-Hungary'(Anatomy of the Emperor's Throne), we provide an overarching 'history of events' before delving into the regional histories of the composite lands that compromised the 'Kaisertum' (Austria/Austria-Hungary), in a manner inspired by Fernand Braudel's Identity of France.
In this episode, we discuss the long history of the possessions of the Imperial House of Habsburg; from their ascension as Emperors of the Holy Roman Empire until the early reign of Franz Joseph I and the battle of Koniggratz (1452-1866).
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Columba: / columba_1
Marcus Pertinax: / furiuspertinax
Supplementary recommendations for viewing:
Age of Metternich: • The Age of Metternich:... - Zábava
Hungary: But our Parliament...
Franz Jozef: I am altering the deal, Pray I don't alter it any further.
i started researching austria for lore purposes for my phantasy star character but the austria lore itself turned out to be the real show
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Now _this_ is riding the tiger. Many thanks, gentlemen.
What does that mean. I kinda think I get it but
@@jimmyjames417 It is surviving the bad times we are in, not by fighting them since such is impossible, but by surviving as righteous and courageous men.
@@jimmyjames417 Read Riding The Tiger by Julius Evola.
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My wife turned me on to this channel. So glad she did, this is fantastic. Good discussions and very thought provoking.
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ROYAL.
Thanks a lot, gentlemen.
Looking forward to the series. Ive slowly built up an interest in Austria's unique history from various media and discussions over the years so this will be interesting look into it with the crew of people here.
Wonderful Stream, entertaining and educational. The input from the Guests were wonderful and the Battle of Salferino.
Habsburg Austro-Hungarian history is fascinating. You guys are entertaining. Thanks for doing this.
The daughters of Joseph and their descendants should have got the throne.
I just discovered your channel and I'm really happy about it.
Greetings from Greece.
1:39:22 this is also why Joseph II never had himself crowned with the Holy Crown of Hungary, so he could attempt to bring about those sweeping reforms in the kingdom without much regard for the ancient laws. He is derided by the Hungarians as “the Hat King” because of this.
Excellent stream so far. Really enjoying it.
I should have mentioned that, and the conscious association with the Regnal name of Franz Joseph to Joseph II.
i woke up to this, i kept watching
The current year gals with their boyish-pixie cuts need to take Sisi's example to heart.
Outstanding presentation! I am thoroughly enjoying the content of your channel. Thank you!
Great stream gentleman, great background for my reading of Joseph Roth's excellent The Radetzky March.
Amazing, thanks again for sharing!
Thank you for this great content!
Great channel! Thank you.
Really good 👍
There is only one thing I do not enjoy about this channel, and that is how everyone seems to be tiptoeing’ around AM about the time. It takes away from the material, and could be easily sidestepped with rehearsal.
Cheers ; keep up the glory. ⚜️
good work
Listening while playing Lucium Total War 3.0 as my favourite german monarchy.
I was so excited to find this and trying to get through it bc the info is great but the constant interruptions that seems to usually have to be corrected or noted it will be discussed later, is distracting. IMO…sorry😅
The Hungarian nobility had a stronger position compared to the Austrian one during the time period this video discusses. This, while initially being a blessing, has by time became something more of a course.
the original Austrian nobility in its majority became Protestant during the Reformation and later was completely deposed by the Habsburgs because of that. Later they created a new nobility by knighting seasoned militaries and administration personell or by promoting formerly unimportant but catholic petty gentry. The Starhembergs, the Hoyos, the Auerspergs, the Liechtensteins and the Eszterházys are a good example for that.
Later during industrialization in the 19th century they did the same thing again, by nobilizing almost all of the new industrialists, factory owners, bankers, railroad tycoons.
So within Austria (and Bohemia) there was nothing comparable to the magnats of Hungary, there was no higher nobility with their own power base. Nobody in Austria could say: "... but my family also was once king or duke.", because nobody was.
7:15 don’t we also need to mention the last surviving composite monarchy: the United Kingdom 🇬🇧
I'm very happy to have found this video and this channel. I am also very interested in Central European history and I just did a video book review on Miklos Banffy's Transylvanian Trilogy about the last decade of Habsburg Hungary. Fans of this part of history should come check it out. Thank you!
Transilvania is Romanian area....
Henry Dunant, the Swiss Reformed Protestant who founded the Red Cross and called for the First Geneva Convention.
Franz Joseph looks like Benedict Cumberbatch.
Please can you give the reference of the Taylor book about German language?
Do you maybe have a 30-Year War series? Please add my wish to the ¨fans suggestion box¨.
I have a video on the 30 Years War (lecture and discussion) but not a full fledged series I'm afraid.
@@ApostolicMajesty Thanks for your answer. I'm diving into your channel right now, there are so many videos to watch! I'll look for the video you mention. Thank you very much again, these videos are a joy and help me a lot when it comes to understanding the events of this complicated period.
My great great grandmother was a Hapsburg. As the story is told in our family, she was disowned because she married a Russian soldier. Do you have any more info on this?
Sissi is the best, wow
These Kammern (chambers still exist up to this day :D )
And there is even a saying about this habit to not entirely change things and keep up some part of old privileges and legislations: An Austrian solution! This term is often used in a mocking way to point out that some new rule or law again was not entirely radically new but still kept some parts of the old and therefore patching together some strange and somehow comical entity.
In Vienna some years ago they set out to finally redo the old naming conventions for the tramway lines that has been a result of more than hundred years of changes and updates in a finally logical and systematical way (it was like this in the beginning but lost the logic with the reductions of the linenetwork etc.).
The idea was there, all lines with letters as a name should be changed to numbers. So the famous line J was lost, just like the N. But then influential people living along line D said but we want to keep our D we are used to. They decided, okay... you can keep yours. And the O line... ahh, there you go, you can keep yours too. The J line fans of course very upset, well... they had to get used to finally use line 2. Austrian solution!
Similar examples could be shown for nearly every field of legislation, be it non-smoker protection or taxation.
I think the first part of the discussion was quite quick and hastily, somewhat inaccurate and not precise in some way, but it is hard to cover such a huge topic in such a short time. Still a very good entry point for interested.
1:23:18 Well, it was a fail in the sense they did not get all they wanted, but still made some territorial gains both in the War of Bavarian Succession and in the last Turkish War. Could have been better of course, but the Turkish war did not fail due to military defeats but due to diplomatic instability caused by the French revolution and Prussia not wanting Austria to have a lot of gains... so "disaster" is a strong expression for a war that was basically won. 1:29:33 again... this war did not end in defeat. It was the other way round: The Ottomans suffered huge defeats against Russian, Austrian and most notably combined Austro-Russian forces which ended in permant territorial gains.
It's "de yure" not "the zhure" (???) afaik ;)
Unrelated but it’s Uyghur, not «weeger»...
Koshutt ... with a T ... not Koshoff ... or Kosothhhhh (ð, te aitch)
his name is only written with a "th" to make it look more fancy, that was the habit of the time, like in Rothschild instead of Rotschild or Sathmár instead of modern Szatmár. But this "h" has to be ignored, it is not pronounced and doesn't change the sound of the t.
and his first name is Layosh
In July 1849, the Hungarian Revolutionary Parliament proclaimed and enacted the WORLD's FIRST laws on ethnic and minority rights. It gave minorities the freedom to use their mothertongue at local administration, at tribunals, in schools, in community life and even within the national guard of non-Magyar councils. However these laws were overturned after the united Russian and Austrian armies crushed the Hungarian Revolution of 1848.
After the Kingdom of Hungary reached the Compromise with the Habsburg Dynasty in 1867 (Ausgleich), one of the first acts of the restored Hungarian Parliament was to pass a Law on Nationalities (Minority rights law: the act number XLIV of 1868).
The situation of minorities in Hungary was not even comparable to the contemporary pre WW1 Europe. Other highly multiethnic /multinational countries were: France Russia and UK.
See the multi-national UK:
The situation of Scottish Irish and Welsh people in "Britain" during the English hegemony is well known. They utmost forgot their original language,only English language cultural educational institutions existed. The only language was English in judiciary procedures and in offices and public administrations. In Wales Welsh children were beaten by their teachers if they spoke Welsh among each others. This was the infamous “Welsh Not” policy... See: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welsh_Not
The contemporary Irish question and tensions are well documented. The situation of Ireland was even a more brutal and bloody story. It was not a real "United" Kingdom, it was rather a greater England.
Let's don't forget: The English legal system did not know even basic the minority rights (neither linguistic rights) for aboriginal minorities (Scots, Welsh) until the post ww2 period.
See the multiethnic France:
In the era of the Great French revolution, only 25% of the population of Kingdom of France could speak the French language as mothertongue. But even in 1870, France was still similar-degree multi-ethnic state as Hungary, only 50% of the population of France spoke the French language as mothertongue. The other half of the population spoke Occitan, Breton, Provençal, Catalan, Corsican, Alsatian, West Flemish, Lorraine Franconian, Gallo, Picard or Ch’timi and Arpitan etc... Many minority languages were closer to Spanish languages or Italian language than French) French governments banned minority language schools, minority language newspapers minority theaters. They banned the usage of minority languages in offices , public administration, and judiciary procedures. The ratio of french mothertongue increased from 50% to 91% during the 1870-1910 period!!!
The situation in German Empire was well known (Polish territories and Sorbs)
Just look some Eastern countries in the oreintal so-called Eurasian (aka. Orthodox) civilization :
The legal system of pre-WW1 Kingom of Serbia did not know minority rights.
Also, the legal system of pre-WW1 Kingdom of Romania did not know minority rights, morover, Kingdom of Romania applied strong anti-Semitic disciminative laws against Jewish people, which was similar to Tzarist Russia. Read about it here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_Romania#Treaty_of_Berlin_and_aftermath
Slavery disappeared during the high medieval period on Western Christian European soil, however it existed in Romanian territories until the mid 19th century! The Gypsy slavery and slave markets were abolished only in 1852!!! (Gypsies of Romania had similar status like blacks in USA before the civil war) See: books.google.com/books?id=df2mIOnbrDoC&pg=PA49&lpg=PA49&dq=gypsy+%22slave+markets%22+romania&source=bl&ots=5MY5_TxutD&sig=ACfU3U1E8Dvv2rkKhRSfOrnAbfwQgnlv3g&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwith4_qqbntAhWSuIsKHZ37CpwQ6AEwAXoECAIQAg#v=onepage&q=gypsy%20%22slave%20markets%22%20romania&f=false and see: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_Romania
Just examine the high contrast between Kingdom of Hungary and contemporary pre WW1-era Europe:
The so-called "Magyarization" fantasy was not so harsh as the contemporary western European situation, because the minorities were defended by minority rights and laws. Contemporary Western European legal systems did not know the minority rights, therefore their political leaders loudly and proudly covered up their minorities by the force of law.
1.Were there state sponsored minority schools in Western European countries? NO.
2. How many official languages existed in Western-European states? Only 1 official language!
3. Could minorities use their languages in the offices of public administration in self-governments , in tribunals in Western Europe? No, they couldn't.
4. Did the minorities have own fractions and political parties in the western European parliaments ? No, no they hadn't.
5. What about newspapers of ethnic minorities in Western Europe? They did not exist in the West.... We can continue these things to the infinity.
Gypsies surely deserved it.
Where is Part Two?? The videos in this series, one presumes it's a series, are so poorly marked that it's extremely time consuming, frustrating and ultimately impossible to find the second half of this very fine video. And it sounded like there were supposed to be more, but what they're named is one of life's great mysteries. Very disrespectful and unfair of you, if I may say so.
There's a playlist, the thumbnails are clearly marked with the series title and episode number, and parts two and three come immediately after one in the order of livestreams.
Hapsburgs lose out to France who loses out to Britain who loses out to America who was helped by France. God I love history
I love this channel, erudite and informative but there were a few inaccurate observations re Austrian technological ‘backwardness.’ The Austrian Lenk M 1863 guns were vastly superior to the La Hitte guns of the French. In terms of battlefield performance they outmatched the technically superior Krupp guns. The Lorenz musket was a more modern weapon than the Dreyse, slower to fire but more accurate. The Austrians also mobilised by rail, the Nordbahn was able to run 21 trains per line per day to the Prussians 10. The lack of double tracks was the main impediment. The Inferior tactical doctrine of the Austrian infantry played a far more important role in Austria’s defeat than technology.
The woman in the thumbnail is a cutie!
Great stuff but guests were annoying and interrupted your flow.