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  • @barrydevonshire9749
    @barrydevonshire9749 Před 20 dny +81

    I saw this in the daily telegraph and thought the same. Unfortunately some people will believe this. Meat industry money sponsor?

    • @PercivalBlakeney
      @PercivalBlakeney Před 20 dny

      @barrydevonshire9749
      This is the Torygraph.
      Anything to the Left of Suella Braverman gets written off as "woke".
      🙄

    • @vioheubach3112
      @vioheubach3112 Před 20 dny +5

      guaranteed!

    • @doodleoffice221
      @doodleoffice221 Před 20 dny +1

      da funded research lol

    • @jeanneamato8278
      @jeanneamato8278 Před 20 dny +6

      People believe what they want to believe.

    • @GarudaLegends
      @GarudaLegends Před 19 dny

      Meat eaters do live longer. It is just a fact based under unbiased statistics.

  • @breanarich2901
    @breanarich2901 Před 20 dny +41

    Processed anything as bad for you vegan or not. But, that being said going on a plant-based diet 6 1/2 years ago truly changed my life for the better.

    • @elyrienvalkyr8167
      @elyrienvalkyr8167 Před 20 dny +5

      You clearly don't understand what "processed" means. You just heard someone who heard from a tv that processed=bad

    • @msjkramey
      @msjkramey Před 20 dny +1

      Congrats!

    • @msjkramey
      @msjkramey Před 20 dny +1

      @elyrienvalkyr8167 what do you think it means? When most people talk about processed foods, they're talking about ultra-processed foods: soda, instant noodles, candy, fast food, etc. These are all things that have been stripped of nutrition during processing, designed to light up the reward centers of our brains. The high sodium, high sugar, high saturated fat, and low micronutrient levels are what makes them unhealthy in excess

    • @11235Aodh
      @11235Aodh Před 20 dny +1

      @@elyrienvalkyr8167 Usually people mean ultra-processed don't they? I can assume they don't find the process of cutting an apple particularly harmful. Common sense?

    • @GarudaLegends
      @GarudaLegends Před 19 dny +1

      @@msjkramey doesn't matter. Meat eaters live longer than vegans in age, and meat eaters have the best life expectancy. No logic reason to go vegan. Eat meat and live long. 👍

  • @msjkramey
    @msjkramey Před 20 dny +25

    Even if it was true that fake meat was really bad for you, you don't have to eat it as a vegan lol

    • @11235Aodh
      @11235Aodh Před 20 dny +3

      Correct, animal products don't need to be replaced. Plant foods has all the amino acids and fat precursors we need to make everything else.

    • @GarudaLegends
      @GarudaLegends Před 19 dny

      Yeah but meat eaters live vastly longer than vegans.

    • @GarudaLegends
      @GarudaLegends Před 19 dny

      @@MalkitSingh-ym4dv just look up who has the highest life expectancy and who lived the longest. Not difficult to do. Meat eaters, then vegetarians live the second longest. Vegans have horrible lifespans.

    • @msjkramey
      @msjkramey Před 19 dny +1

      @@GarudaLegends read: Life expectancy can increase by up to 10 years following sustained shifts towards healthier diets in the United Kingdom
      It shows that lowering consumption of meat correlates to better longevity, but milk seems all right. But if people have ethical concerns about dairy farming, that's a personal choice that they should get to make

    • @cicciomattese
      @cicciomattese Před 19 dny +3

      ​@@GarudaLegendsvegans have reduction mortality 😅

  • @floyd1186
    @floyd1186 Před 20 dny +12

    The whole article was absolute nonsense and a desperate attempt to undermine some of the key benefits of a vegan lifestyle. The author is a dairy farmer so would naturally try and reframe the environmental benefits of plant based milk. Most depressing thing is how many people willingly gobble up his lies in support of their own outdated prejudice against veganism.

  • @henrituhola
    @henrituhola Před 20 dny +20

    Once I've figured this out, no lies can deceive me. 😊 Go vegan.

    • @11235Aodh
      @11235Aodh Před 20 dny +1

      Same here, if you want to learn more and are interested in biochemistry. I can recommend dr. Peter Rogers for nutrition insights. He's a fan of dr. John mcDougall's himself.

    • @GarudaLegends
      @GarudaLegends Před 19 dny

      Meat eaters live longer and have the best life expectancy. Why would any sane person go vegan when meat eaters live longer?

    • @11235Aodh
      @11235Aodh Před 19 dny +3

      @@GarudaLegends Yes, all my relatives that died of cancer and heart disease were vegan. Except they weren't, meanwhile my husband is off his bp meds and 90% down with his diabetic meds after going plant exclusive low fat high starch. Show me any long term study or control study that shows that meat heavy (high protein is linked to high cancer due to methionine and leucine turning on mtor and increasing igf1) diets are good for longevity?

    • @GarudaLegends
      @GarudaLegends Před 19 dny

      @@11235Aodh I don't care about your relatives and their unhealthy diets. The fact is the oldest ppl to live in age and the ppl with the highest live experiency consume meat and were not vegan. That is just a recorded fact.

    • @henrituhola
      @henrituhola Před 19 dny +3

      ​@@GarudaLegendsthat's not a recorded fact, just bullshit.

  • @sidilicious11
    @sidilicious11 Před 20 dny +9

    Am 10 years on a whole food plant based diet. I feel pretty darn healthy for my age, 69.

    • @11235Aodh
      @11235Aodh Před 20 dny +2

      Nice!

    • @GarudaLegends
      @GarudaLegends Před 19 dny +1

      Supplements is not a whole food. Lol

    • @11235Aodh
      @11235Aodh Před 19 dny +1

      @@GarudaLegends What supplements? B12? Seriously? Hows popping the electrolytes?

    • @GarudaLegends
      @GarudaLegends Před 19 dny

      @@11235Aodh so you just admit 1 out of a bundle of supplements that is not a whole food vegans are missing on their deficient diet, by assuming I take electrolyte powders? 🤣🤣. You must be a vegan because only a vegan can sound this stupid. Thanks for proving my point.

    • @LisaG442
      @LisaG442 Před 14 dny +2

      But if you tried that as an infant or child you’d die from malnutrition, which leads me to believe humans were meant to eat the flesh of animals and fish and their byproducts (milk and eggs).

  • @markoszouganelis5755
    @markoszouganelis5755 Před 20 dny +6

    Thank you Mic! I have a way to keep me Vegan! I say to myself: I will be Vegan even if I am the only Vegan on this planet!💚

  • @terryjackson9395
    @terryjackson9395 Před 20 dny +23

    Not only that, but Fig 2 of the study showed NON-processed animal foods to be as bad or slightly worse than ULTRA processed plant foods like cake and french fries.
    Cattleman's Association sees a study, does a press release with misleading headlines, and then lame online news pubs just print the press release as-is.

    • @action1976
      @action1976 Před 18 dny

      Would you like to put that to the test? I will live on a diet of unprocessed red meat, and you can live on a diet of cakes and French 🍟 who do you think will die first?😂😂

    • @terryjackson9395
      @terryjackson9395 Před 18 dny +4

      @@action1976As mentioned in my comment, The study actually DOES put it to the test. For CVD (by far the leading cause of death especially in men), on average, we would die at the same time or you slightly first. Heart disease for you would occur sooner.
      Read the study!!! (data is in Fig 2)
      "Implications of food ultra-processing on cardiovascular risk considering plant origin foods: an analysis of the UK Biobank cohort"

    • @VegetaPrinceOfSaiyans
      @VegetaPrinceOfSaiyans Před 16 dny

      So if you replace the 10% of the unprocessed meat in a diet (that potentially includes other processed foods) with unprocessed plant foods, obviouly your risk would go down. Sounds like an increase in fiber and plant nutrients helped. What we need is an analysis comparing whole food plant and whole food animal based diets, otherwise we end up with too many variables. ​@@terryjackson9395

    • @sam5694
      @sam5694 Před 11 dny

      ​​@@terryjackson9395 so much BS. Especially now that people who did what the health are being exposed for having millions in stocks 😂 the vegan agenda is a major scam and plants are more intelligent than the animals we eat - check the science data 😂

    • @Corilo91
      @Corilo91 Před 11 dny

      @@action1976 You are the embodiment of scientific illiteracy.

  • @iluvtrees1969
    @iluvtrees1969 Před 20 dny +30

    You can eat vegan foods, including sugar and processed foods and you will still be minimizing cruelty to animals. 🦄🐰🐇

    • @randyjnaron
      @randyjnaron Před 16 dny +4

      While at the same time maximizing cruelty to humans. There is no such thing as a healthy vegan diet. We are carnivores by design of our evolution. Animals are to be treated as humanely as possible, but they are food for humans. At least the large ruminants. Just the way it is. It’s ironic that most vegans are also very accepting of abortion. I guess we human are just not that important?

    • @mollymolly_7758
      @mollymolly_7758 Před 16 dny +1

      ^ 🙄

    • @vangodwinmyyoutubealias7592
      @vangodwinmyyoutubealias7592 Před 14 dny

      Why are Vegans only concerned about cruelty to animals only when animals are being consumed by humans. Animals eat other animals, and they do it cruelly, predators don't wait for the prey to die. The prey gets eaten alive, or they get swallowed alive, suffocating inside the predator. I saw a video of a Komodo dragon swallowing a baby pig whole. 🐖 That baby pig was screaming for its life while it was being assaulted by the Komodo, and it suffocated to death when it was swallowed alive.

    • @vangodwinmyyoutubealias7592
      @vangodwinmyyoutubealias7592 Před 14 dny +1

      ​@@randyjnaron😀 I agree 100 percent 👍

    • @Sarah-with-an-H
      @Sarah-with-an-H Před 8 dny

      ​@@randyjnaronWas going to say this. Maximizing your own harm shouldn't be the ideal

  • @d.rabbitwhite
    @d.rabbitwhite Před 20 dny +26

    Flesh eaters: claiming criminally egregious misrepresentations of science since... forever

    • @msjkramey
      @msjkramey Před 20 dny +1

      Meat eaters aren't all the same lol. I could rattle off some vegan stereotypes but that doesn't make them true

    • @11235Aodh
      @11235Aodh Před 20 dny

      @@msjkramey But meat eaters who would actually read / understand the science and stay meat eater? Do you want to die sooner?

    • @d.rabbitwhite
      @d.rabbitwhite Před 19 dny

      @@msjkramey I didn't say all, and I didn't use the word meat. I was trying to keep it short and had an old James Garner commercial for the "beef industry" in my head.

    • @msjkramey
      @msjkramey Před 19 dny +1

      @@d.rabbitwhite you implied all, and I'm aware of the fact that you didn't say "meat" because you were trying to illicit disgust by using a different word, but "flesh" and "meat" are synonyms here and you know that

    • @d.rabbitwhite
      @d.rabbitwhite Před 19 dny +1

      @@msjkramey do I know you?
      I don't believe so. I use the word flesh and have for years. There is a reason but it isn't the one you assumed. It just how I function.
      I reiterate: the comment was written in the template of the line from the commercial that was floating in my head, that was, to me, amusing at the time.
      You have successfully sucked out my amusement. I suppose you are good at that.
      So now, I have another line in my head from the movie valley girl. Nicholas Cage said it after getting dumped.

  • @swites
    @swites Před 19 dny +2

    They've been doing this for decades. Anything slightly negative towards plants, vegans, or vegetarians is misrepresented and lied about and become headlines seemingly in all the papers, publications and mags around the world at the same time.

  • @Security17
    @Security17 Před 20 dny +3

    And thats why Jamie Blackett writes for a rag called The Telegraph

  • @victim21
    @victim21 Před 20 dny +7

    I'm assuming that "Industrial pizza" refers to those frozen pizzas you find in the freezer section.

  • @carolinaochoa7900
    @carolinaochoa7900 Před 20 dny +3

    I'd say it's more like carnivores are (not so slowly) killing themselves.

    • @Amshatelia88
      @Amshatelia88 Před 20 dny

      It's so shortsighted, killing off your own customers...

  • @DrReginaldFinleySr
    @DrReginaldFinleySr Před 20 dny +4

    Oh, you better believe I have heard this already. " Your chances of dying are higher eating Vegan!!" "New study says so." Ugh!

  • @lismarcel
    @lismarcel Před 20 dny +7

    Industrial pizza! It might be strong enough to be used in construction 😂

    • @d.rabbitwhite
      @d.rabbitwhite Před 20 dny +1

      especially if you had some glue to the sauce.

    • @Amshatelia88
      @Amshatelia88 Před 20 dny +2

      Gingerbread houses: ❌
      Pizza houses: ✅

  • @biancat.1873
    @biancat.1873 Před 20 dny +8

    💚🐾🌱💚🐾🌱💚🐾🌱

  • @roku3216
    @roku3216 Před 20 dny +3

    Industrial Pizza, the hottest new Steampunk venue to get your casomorphin fix!

  • @aloah030
    @aloah030 Před 16 dny +3

    This is almost exclusively a culture war issue, not a dietary one

  • @mikeskylark1594
    @mikeskylark1594 Před 20 dny +4

    I wanna try this industrial vegan pizza HAHA

  • @SandraFruitsYou
    @SandraFruitsYou Před 20 dny +2

    Industrial vegan pizza
    Netflix
    &Chill
    Lolz

  • @Dooality
    @Dooality Před 19 dny +2

    Anti-vegans being dishonest? Wow I guess there’s a first for everything.

  • @NatalyBlackberry
    @NatalyBlackberry Před 20 dny +3

    🌱🌱🌱💚💚💚

  • @Corilo91
    @Corilo91 Před 11 dny +1

    Thank you for this proper representation of the study!
    Journalism is garbage.

  • @donnavogt433
    @donnavogt433 Před 17 dny

    In1977, I was 19, My 57 yr old dad in Intensive care for heart surgery, when I visited him, told his cardiologist to tell me to EAT Meat. Cardiologist told him "Why I don't eat meat! " Even though in medical industry, the doc admitted he did not eat meat !

  • @thomasfowler8212
    @thomasfowler8212 Před 5 dny +1

    I’m not a strict vegan anymore but I don’t eat meat or fish etc. I personally ever liked the fake meat anyway, non vegans often assume that’s like all we can eat lol, there’s plenty of others things like beans, lentils, chick peas. You don’t have to eat processed shit if you don’t want to

  • @HowlingMoonCinemas
    @HowlingMoonCinemas Před 14 dny +2

    Dang. That anti vegan movement is so desperate and dishonest 😂.

  • @LisaG442
    @LisaG442 Před 14 dny +1

    If veganism is so right, why do parents who put their babies and children on this diet go to jail for endangering the lives of their kids from MALNUTRITION

  • @guintar6661
    @guintar6661 Před 5 dny +1

    7 years vegan and still waiting for my protein deficiency to kick in! All that stored up meat protein hasn't worn off yet, I guess 😂

  • @raynarks
    @raynarks Před 17 dny +1

    If you weren’t meant to eat animals, they wouldn’t be made out of meat.

  • @drklawz9179
    @drklawz9179 Před 18 dny +1

    Even if it were true, no vegans eat processed vegan meats on a daily basis like the carnists eat their processed meat 🙄

  • @KhallDrake
    @KhallDrake Před 18 dny +1

    We all know that a diet of cake, cookies, pop, and icing sugar is bad for you.

  • @antoinettecastle4739
    @antoinettecastle4739 Před dnem +1

    I know foolish people unable to interpret research😂😂😂

  • @Jamie-813
    @Jamie-813 Před dnem

    So, the moral of the story: don't eat bread and processed carbohydrates.

  • @b1jou123
    @b1jou123 Před 17 dny +1

    Of course it's misleading, it's in the New York Post!!

  • @Mister_Listener
    @Mister_Listener Před 3 dny

    People like to fight and insult one another about veganism. So many hangups…it is weird they always have to be so negative.

  • @doremifasola9416
    @doremifasola9416 Před 11 dny

    Vegans successfully find research papers which prove what they believe to be true for themselves and what they want to be true for everyone else. Carnivores find research papers which prove the opposite of veganism because they want everyone to be a healthy carnivore. Veganism is good for a few, carnivore is good for those who successfully get their autoimmune diseases into remission and variations of omnivore are best for the rest. It all depends on your metabolic type.

  • @MsSilver41
    @MsSilver41 Před 22 hodinami

    Unfortunately They do the same when they do meat studies , lumping meat with processed meat

  • @trollimusprime8521
    @trollimusprime8521 Před 20 dny

    Industrial Pizza is my metal band

  • @tbobtbob330
    @tbobtbob330 Před 11 dny

    Every vegan I've met looked like they had one foot in the grave. I knew a vegan with a meat-eating identical twin brother. He said people had mistook his brother for his son. He didn't eat hardly any processed foods.

  • @JonLipton
    @JonLipton Před 14 dny

    Aren’t we all slowly killing ourselves when you really think about it?

  • @ithamarlowe6158
    @ithamarlowe6158 Před 4 dny

    I think the problem is there are people who do VEGAN wrong and those who do it right.
    There are VEGAN CZcamsrs who are actually bad examples for people and unfortunately they are more popular than the educational one’s

    • @morganthem
      @morganthem Před 15 hodinami

      Such as

    • @ithamarlowe6158
      @ithamarlowe6158 Před 10 hodinami

      @@morganthem some people don’t do enough research on how to get all the necessary vitamins and proteins from vegetables and end up doing it wrong.
      There’s a right way to go vegan and still eat delicious food because lots of people have been doing it and without the need to supplement.
      But some people go extreme and just eat greens or just eat fruits and are too lazy to cook, make teas or try recipes.

  • @thomassciaroni6942
    @thomassciaroni6942 Před 18 dny

    Oh come on, God forbid killing, this includes HARMLESS ANIMALS. Wasn't he saying he didn't like burnt sacrifices? If you ask me, Bethlehem is Bait al-Lahm, Elohim is al-Lahm and Yahweh is just Ya Hawwa 😊

  • @DelusionDispeller
    @DelusionDispeller Před 8 dny

    Veganism made me lose my hair and almost my fingernails. I went back to eating some meat mostly fish and my hair and nails are fine now

  • @ShaniSunshine
    @ShaniSunshine Před 12 dny

    0.2 % meat alternatives 👄👁️👄 did they even read the study ??

  • @edogami7409
    @edogami7409 Před 16 dny

    Thank you.

  • @chuckbrooks7489
    @chuckbrooks7489 Před 7 dny

    Nebraska has flooding, large hail and tornadoes

  • @morganthem
    @morganthem Před 15 hodinami

    As opposed to grunge pizza

  • @moonxcc
    @moonxcc Před 19 dny +2

    😂😂😂😂🤣🤣

  • @domichall666
    @domichall666 Před 17 dny +1

    Just dont go vegan ,simple😂😂

  • @thomasfalanga9163
    @thomasfalanga9163 Před 4 dny

    Sounds like the shoes on the other foot 😂

  • @lindapb6529
    @lindapb6529 Před 19 dny

    💚

  • @TotalEquilibrium1
    @TotalEquilibrium1 Před 16 dny

    All scientific studies are paid for and they should never be relied upon. Gen Z ombie love a study to tell them how to think.

  • @pyxlle
    @pyxlle Před 19 dny

    I hate myself, not the animals ✌️

  • @sbla2381
    @sbla2381 Před 18 dny

    ive seen these everywhere, crazy

  • @kaygeayla
    @kaygeayla Před dnem

    You seriously believe that any processed foods , even fake meat, is Good for you? Ok, well keep eating it then. Wow.

    • @morganthem
      @morganthem Před 15 hodinami

      I mean yeah it depends on what's in it, not like your body knows the difference unless you strip out all the fiber or smth

  • @wingmanscreencasts6808

    So the study is bs except the last part where it's better to be vegan?

    • @judyb4155
      @judyb4155 Před 7 dny

      Mic didn’t say the study is bullshit, he said that the way it has been represented in certain areas of the mainstream press is.

  • @Fruity-Amy
    @Fruity-Amy Před 8 dny

    And you don’t even have to eat fake meat as a vegan haha.

  • @cherylchilds7025
    @cherylchilds7025 Před 20 dny

    Mic shorts!

  • @beanburrito8903
    @beanburrito8903 Před 20 dny

    ❤❤❤

  • @sandradamen-fw4zy
    @sandradamen-fw4zy Před 20 dny

  • @Days.
    @Days. Před 17 dny

    Wtf is this study even

  • @lesterlasa3367
    @lesterlasa3367 Před 13 dny

    I saw the same nonsense noting science

  • @polibm6510
    @polibm6510 Před 20 dny +1

    Vegans are funny. Nothing more.

  • @susanedmondson1623
    @susanedmondson1623 Před dnem

    You look sickly.

  • @porkchop23
    @porkchop23 Před 20 dny +6

    You can eat your tofu, I’ll eat my beef, pork, and chicken.

    • @msjkramey
      @msjkramey Před 20 dny +4

      Congrats?

    • @Unmasking_Viandalisme
      @Unmasking_Viandalisme Před 20 dny

      Don't forget oily fish & dairy.. although I'm sure you haven't.
      Nobody commenting here will still be so doing, 100yrs hence, so I don't fully understand the V, longevity obsession.

    • @msjkramey
      @msjkramey Před 20 dny +2

      @@Unmasking_Viandalisme you don't understand why people want to live longer and age comfortably?

    • @msjkramey
      @msjkramey Před 20 dny +2

      Also, have you ever had tofu? It's pretty awesome. This isn't a vegan dish because it has traditionally fish paste in the broth, but you have got to try soondubu-jjigae. It is a spicy silken tofu soup that is absolutely incredible. Closed-mindedness is going to lead you to miss out on a lot of the great pleasures of life

    • @Unmasking_Viandalisme
      @Unmasking_Viandalisme Před 20 dny

      @@msjkramey Blue Zones evidence suggests that traditional, WF omni. diets return excellent results.V looks good only when compared to the SAD.
      As a Christian, 70, 80, 90yrs are similar blips, relative to eternal life.

  • @sylviaivie7047
    @sylviaivie7047 Před 20 dny +1

    You need to research. V