One MUST GO! Fujifilm 10-24mm, 16mm 1.4, or the Rokinon 12mm?
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- čas přidán 2. 07. 2024
- One of these lenses is OUT of the collection. Who is it? Watch the drama unfold.
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I owned all three and ended up selling the 16 and 12mm . Like you said boils down to how you like to shoot. 10-24 is great for Real Estate and I have been taking it as my primary lens on travel to Europe. Absolutely love it.
Omar, your videos are such a joy to watch for an amature photographer like me, they bring fun to photography.
So thank you!
Your point about a lens gathering dust deserves to be somewhere else, I totally agree. This is the second video of yours I’ve watched and I’m excited to find your channel. I like your ideas and your pics are 🤏🏻
The Rokinon lens cap is screaming: "Wipe that dust off of me! Omar! Help!!"
That was what my first comment was going to be - 'Dust that lens cap!!'
@@mikecastles some of us know just what to focus on when watching Omar's videos 😂
I love how he keeps the lens that's literally gathering dust 😂
lens caps are over-rated
It shows how much he really uses it! Not very often......
All the photos are awesome! Keep the kit simple and keep the focus on the photography, love it!
Good thinking. Thank you for sharing with us. Was really eager to find out what lense it would be. I am dreaming of owning these lenses too and of these three, I would probably choose the same two as you did.I like your samples and your explanations of your choices. Keep up the good work.
I loved looking at all your photos and see what you can achieve with each lens.
I love that Rokinon! One of the best values for the buck in the X mount lineup
I actually swapped the 12mm for the 10-24mm, use it a lot for video and getting in the action at first dances, parties etc, no regrets, love the versatility and the autofocus.
I personally love to use the 10-24mm @ 14mm. Love that extra drama you get when going wide. But I get where you are going with this (and I never tried a rokinon). If traveling light is your thing, maybe the 16mm f/2.8 is for you.
I would keep all 3!!! I have the 16mm and the 10-24mm and love them both and don't neglect either one. The 16mm just rocks...I will say i had the Rokinon 12mm when i was using the Olympus M3/4 system before moving to Fujifilm and it was performance monster!
Thank you again Omar! I keep going back and forth with your videos. They really help me decide what to get next.
I now have the x-T30 with the 18-55mm and the viltrox 56mm 1.4 (amazing lens for a budget user like me). I love the 16mm 1.4 but (no viltrox equivalent yet!) But the 10-24mm looks so useful... I want to shoot wide and vlog a little bit and fill indoors in small spaces so the 10-24mm looks like the way to go. BUT I love what you say about the 16mm making you a better photographer. I love prime lenses for that. I I think I could vlog and even film with the 16mm 1.4 and for stills I'm already sold on the 1.4 and on the possibility of "macro" shooting.
Thanks a bunch!
WOW!… That Rokinon dust cap is really earning it's keep!… LOOOL
Great video. Omar. I would like to have all of those lenses but first, I need a Fuji body! I do agree with your assessment. As you said, it's an individual based on how you shoot.
Great video, very suspenseful and fun! Do it again!
totally understand your choice although I have been desperately trying to work out how to get the one your are getting rid off to try to get wider landscapes. I only have the 50 and 23 F3's and the 23 isn't wide enough for the landscape and architectural photos I want to take. Having said that, i love just traveling and shooting with the Peak sling 3 ltr. what ever fits in, is all that goes moto.
Hey Omar! I’m new to photography and have just bought a Fujifilm xt20 and love it! I’m thinking of purchasing a smart adapter as my dad has a few Canon lenses I can borrow and I would like the auto focus functions as for now I only have one manual kit lens. I just wondered what you thought about smart adapters. Love the channel especially the humour and none stuffy approach to photography it’s been super helpful so thank you!
I get your choice, love my little Rokinon - and was undecided between the 10-24 vs 16. I do a lot of starscape photogrpahy.
Oh man, I could certainly use that lens. Just got my first Fuji camera to check out the system (used X-T1 from ebay). Anyway, great video and comparison of the 3 lenses!
Great video omar.I have both 16mm and 10-24 but use the 16mm more because of its macro ability and 1.4 aperture and i too are thinking of selling it because i always shot it at 16mm only.
I see Omar video, I like then proceed to watch!
Great video. I was surprised at your choice. I thought that there was generally decent overlap that would have made it an easy choice...
I love my Rokinon 12. Taking it along with my 18-55 and 55-200 on a two week Hawaiian cruise in the fall
I just got an 8-16 and now have to decide if i want to let go of my 10-24 and 16 1.4. I feel you man....1st world problems.
Man that 16 1.4 is magic, I'd never let mine go.
I just ordered the 10-24 and I can't wait to put it to use.
I agree with your selection. I for one have wanted the 10-24 for a long time but because I have an adapter for my Nikon glass and have a ridiculously sharp Tokins 11-16mm, I never bought it.
Great job done. Missing the Zeiss 14mm/2.8. It is so sharp on the edges. The Rokinon has some problems with lens flares.
I've got the 16mm F1.4 and its brilliant! It is way more versatile than you would think and the image quality from this lens is simply stunning. I don't know about the other two lenses as I have never used them but I can certainly vouch for the 16 mm being awesome.
Love my 10-24mm for the no thinking dramatic vivera images in the winter.
I feel ya on the not wanting stuff sitting around collecting dust. I have the Rokinon as well and I dunno...there's something about the rendering on the X-T1 that I'm not loving. I keep thinking I haven't spent enough time with it but it may be time to let it go...
This one is a great video. That lens who is eliminated is one in my list. I should buy the other two. I just need a wider lens to bring in my travel. I thought that one is a great choice.
You've got a great eye for UWA compositions. Love the sample images mate.
I guessed it 🤓... Always great video Omar!!!! Thank you!
The XF 14MM F2.8 was my choice for a wide lens. Greta performance, sharp and about the size and weight as the 18-55 . I do have the 7artisans 12mm and that little guy is solid. Fun video thanks.
Seems to be a favourite lens for landscape shooters. Might get one some day.
While dreaming about traveling in 2021, I pulled the trigger on a used Zeiss 12/2.8. I figure in my light travel kit, I can go Zeiss 12/2.8, 23/2, 50/2, and 16-80 with two bodies (X-T4 plus either X-Pro2 or X-T30). If I'm shooting event, that 16/1.4 is coming along. The 10-24's OIS would be very handy with my non-IBIS cameras.
glad i was mistaken on the poll , i would chose the same, for the same reasons as you. as someone else said , waiting you to try the laowa 9mm 2.8 :)
I do architecture photography for work with the 10-24 and I think It’s perfect 👌. It’s a little big for my x-t20 so I don’t use it for nothing more than work.
I have the 10-24 and 16/1.4 here to compare and I'm seeing all the same things you are. The 16 is glorious for photos. It makes damn near anything look so dramatic and beautiful and it is SO bright. But when recording video, the autofocus is incredibly loud - make sure you're using an external mic if you want to capture audio! And even then I can sometimes still hear the lens focus. It also seems to hunt a lot more than the 10-24 but I'm not sure if that's just because I can hear/feel the 16mm focusing. With the 10-24, the autofocus is dead silent but the internal mic in my XS10 pics up what I assume is the OIS noise. A constant mechanical-sounding hum that isn't there with the 16mm. UGH why do they have to be so expensive - they're both so good!
I had the Samyang (Rokinon) 12mm but sold mine when I got the Fuji 10-24mm XF.
If you’re into stopping down and making sunstars, the Rokinon 12mm makes funky-looking 6-pointed ones-I’ve read it has to do with the number of aperture blades.
You can always crop any lens in post, but there’s no substitute for ultra-wide when you need it. When will you review the tiny Laowa 9mm f/2.8? I got one for Christmas, and it’s a lot of fun! Also does the close focus wide open thing.
I have all primes in this range. The 16mm 1.4, the 23mm f2 and the Laowa 9mm 2.8. The Laowa is absolutely tiny (even smaller than the 23mm f2) with minimal distortion and excellent image quality. Great for travel. The 16mm 1.4 is larger but I could never part with it. It has a magical quality about it and allows me perspectives that I simply cannot achieve with any other lens.
For me personally, I would dump 2 of these lenses, the 16mm and 12mm (mainly because I don't own them already :) - the 16mm is on my wish list ;))
Lol, this video came just a 7 weeks too late. Had the problem of which of these three to buy. I could only buy two. I ended up with your choice, for the exact same reasons. So basically: another great and insightful video that I can confirm works for me (since I'm extremely happy with my choice). Thanks, keep it up!
Awww the poor 10-24, you hurt its feelings Omar 😢 - I guess I can't blame you, I really love mine for video use and for my photography but I will agree with you that sometimes it's just TOO wide and it's fun at first and then it gets kinda stale after a while. Shooting everything at 10mm gets boring and while it has a cool effect, it's often overused at times. But I keep forgetting its a zoom and I can zoom in for different compositions. I get what you mean by using the 16mm, now I have the little brother, the 2.8 version and it's more fun being restricted to that focal length, like you said you have to work the scene which in return makes for better photos. I've been questioning mine as well to be honest. Love the dramatic video man.
Great choice! I was originally going to pick up the 10-24 but then went with the 12mm because of the price and I absolutely love my 16mm 1.4. I was thinking you might keep the 10-24 for video but good choice.
Exactly what I thought! great minds think alike! Great video, by the way, Omar Cheers gman UK
I faced a similar decision a while back - I kept the 16 and the 10-24. I wish now I'd kept all 3 :-(
during the meanwhilst - the Samyang/Rokinon 12mm is easily dismissed against the more expensive native autofocus zoom lenses, but what it does have, apart from price, is incredible compactness and being light, to go along with great image quality. It’s one of those lenses if it broke, I have to get another one, and affordable enough that I can. And given I never seem to need to focus (I shoot at f8 usually, sometimes f5.6, at night f2.8), the lack of autofocus doesn’t bother me.
I plan to purchase the 12mm Samyang. I love primes and manual shooting... and the wide viewing angle makes it interesting for me.
@@godsinbox +1 (I'm very happy with my copy btw)
I also own a Samyang 12mm and also got an excellent copy. It is razor sharp even at f2. Unfortunately this lens has several issues I’ve noted. Nasty lens flare and moderate distortion.
It shows that you love that Rokinon a lot by the way the lens cap is super dusty haha! Great video! I love what you said about lenses that are not being used could be used by another person. My wife will be thanking you shortly for inspiring me to resell some of my unused lenses.
I just got a used Rokinon 12mm F2.0 and I'm loving it already.
I called it! I have one and I rarely use it but it's in my kit specifically for those times.
It's fun to walk around with the Rokinon 12mm along with the XF23mmF2 and the XF50mmF2 and have everything I need for anything that does not require real telephoto, while requiring very little storage space. (Plus I'm on the X-H1, so lens stabilization is not an issue.)
I generally bring a Samyang (what the Rokinon is called in the UK) 12mm F2 and Fuji 35mm F2 as my 2 lenses of choice, however my issue with the 12mm is glare from every light source. If I'm indoors and there's a light overhead, it catches on the lens and washes out all contrast. It can be quite challenging to photograph anything where there is an artificial light source, I try to block it with my hand with limited success. Have you found this problem? Any solution?
I have the 23 1.4 and hardy ever use it. Always find myself shooting wider or longer. I think it’s time to change it out for the 16 1.4. That lens seems great for indoor environmental and wide angle street.
But the 23 1.4 is perfect for environmental portrait, expecially to one person. 16 maybe is too wide for one person and you get more prospectic distorsion
I have the same wide combo Rokinon 12mm f2 and Sigma 16mm f 1.4... well almost the same. I am keeping both.
I own both the 10-24mmF4 and the 16mmF1.4, but I've never had the Rokinon.
The 10-24mm is quite beefy and heavy, and I've seen myself not bringing it along when I go hiking for that reason. I did the first time, and never again. I would bring it only if I know I'm gonna need it.
But every time I travel for city tourism, it comes with me alongside the 18-55. Especially if I'm doing street photography, possibly with architecture. It fits into a small slingshot bag and it isn't that bulky. And it's the most versatile, which isn't surprising, because it's a zoom lens, duh. But I think I use it mostly at 12, 14 and 20, with 10 and 24 being rare exceptions.
The 16mm, on the other hand, is a weird focal length and I personally don't have many uses for it. I actually bought it for low light and astro, and also to have a WR wide angle lens, but I don't really use it enough to justify the purchase. However, it's come in handy for street photography at night (f/1.4) in crowded streets (wide enough, without being excessive) while keeping my ISO low, so it's my lens of choice for street and cityscapes at night.
It depends a lot on what kind of photography you do, but I think the zoom is the most versatile and for what I do, I could live only with that lens 98% of the time that I need a wide angle. However, it's good to have one other wide lens with wide maximum aperture for low light. But the choice is very difficult.
I think the 16mmF1.4 would be a better choice for street photography, since it's wide but not too much, and it lets in more light, so you can use faster shutter speeds; while the Rokinon would be better for landscapes, astro and architecture in low light, because it's noticeably wider.
So, if I had to choose, I'd keep the 10-24 and the 16mm, because I do more street than landscapes or architecture at night. Plus, it's the only one of those three that is weather sealed, I believe.
I love my Rokinon 12mm f2. It was my main lens in Lisbon, Portugal.
Those are good goodbye shots!!! Wide angles are awesome.
Did you ever look at the Zeiss Touit 12mm with AF. Its a great lens. I used to own that and loved it.
Exact my choice! Sold the same one a few weeks ago... :)
Totally with you on your decision. BUT, what if you were to keep just one lens??? Ahhhhh, the pressure!
I've been thinking for weeks now whether to get the relatively large 10-24mm to go with my, 16mm 1.4, 12mm Rokinon (and the 16-80mm) for my next Tenerife vacation. Thanks! I'll save myself that expense and let it go for now. Sweat! 😅😀
I probably would have picked differently, but I agree with “collecting dust” factor. Culling my herd as well. Dusty camera gear = no bueno
Omar, perfect choice ✌️
Recently picked up 15-45 and now my 16mm 1.4 and 18-55 collecting dust, will probably find them new home too. Surprised with your choice though
It's a real sleeper if you can get over the zoom mechanism like I can.
Exiting review with three wannahaves great lenses. I own the Rokinon and love this little creature ;-)
By the way Omar did you saw my gesture for the Europe Tripp?
Just checked it out! Will let you know!! Sounds great.
When I had the 10-24 I never shot with 16-24 range, Mostly 10-14 so missing the 10, I went with the 12mm for occasional wide shots, works great, its light, sharp.
Enjoy your reviews! I am a landscape/nature photographer For me I love the 16 1.4 for closeups and astronomy. The lens I have on my xt2 most of the time is the 10-24. I love this lens. I also have the 50-140 2.8 when I want to zoom into a landscape. For me of these 3 lenses I would keep the 16 mm and the 10-24. Thanks again for your review.
I have all those 3 and all of them are keepers..lol
Then I would let go....maybe the 90mm f2. I need and love the other fujis also, it won’t get better! Loveable lenses!
I've bought and sold several of the same Fuji lenses several times. I currently own the 35 f.14 for the third time and I also own my beloved 56 f 1.2 for the second time! Whatever your choice, you can always buy the same model back! I'm paraphrasing but,,, "Fuji...I can't quit you!"
The 10-24 is stabilised which the other 2 aren’t. That copes with the f4 thing and makes it a good video lens too. I’ve got 1 and the 16mm too. Love them both as they do different things. Don’t have the Samyang, can’t see a need for it. If I had to give up a lens then the 55-200 would have to go as it’s one of the weaker performers in the Fuji line-up
I dumped both the 16 and the 10-24. The 12mm is perfect in my kit for the wide angles I need.
I can’t take all that suspense!!... Me encanta tu risa diabólica x’D
"It's going to a good home."
Can it go to my home? I need it in my life.
Fun vid. Would have ditched the Rokinon (which I don’t own anyway and don’t plan on purchasing). The 16mm comes in second. Would never sell my 10-24; by far my favourite travel lens ever. Sharp, versatile, not too heavy and zooms in-body; no dust suck.
Interesting. I’ve got a 12mm f2 (Samyang in the Uk - rebranded Rokinon) and have just ordered myself a 10-24mm putting the Samyang up for sale on eBay. Maybe I should have held back on putting it up for sale and tested the two together. I think you’ve inspired me to put the price up for it to put ppl off buying it and wait for the 10-24mm to be delivered. I do like the compactness of the 12mm f2 and already have 67mm filters for it
So I do have the 16-55 and I LOVE that lens, however I'm shooting on the XT3 and I am a hybrid shooter that does video also. even though I have the 16-55 on a gimble I do find it's not super smooth for some real estate shots. I am shooting some interior of my house so I can rent it and the 16mm is just not wide enough I feel like. I'm also moving to Colorado next year and I think the super wide 10-24 would be a legit lens for landscape and nature and the fact it has IS I can shoot either in my small rig cage and or use it on the gimble. I could easily just rent the lens for about $50 for 2 day weekend but currently my only rental shop in HI isn't renting now because of a state wide lock down for COVID. "rolls eyes"
Currently on the used market they are about $650-700
The Rokinon 12 is un-heard of value. One annoying issue I had was that none of the manual focus Rokinons I have (2 different lenses)(..and also with other legacy lenses on a voigtlander adapter) is that the manual focus scale is not accurate because I've heard they make the mount a little short to make sure you can achieve infinity focus. Because the depth of field is pretty deep at 12mm, I eventually found my solution for this lens. Enter my Brother label maker with black label tape and white ink. By trial and error I made a label with distances marked that fits and looks perfect. The distance between 12' and infinity on the lens ring is less than 1/4". The lens now works fantastic for pre-focusing by estimating. Then lift camera and shoot. It is faster and more reliable than auto-focus in many situations. The only issue that remains with my little Rokinon 12 for my Sony a6500 is that it flares pretty badly, but I can usually be aware and work around that.
If you're doing mainly landscapes then the 10-24 would be a great choice.
Hi Omar, yeh, makes sense!
Just bought the Samyang (Rokinon) for $185 here in the UK. Can’t wait to get out to use it.
I'd have made the same choice, tbh, and for basically the same reasons. I prefer primes in general, but the Rokinon (Samyang) 12mm is actually at the wide edge of what I enjoy using and so good for the price. Plus, me and the 10-24 just never agreed with each other somehow.
I tested the roki for a whole one hour before immediately returning it
No spoiler alert here. Had all three but couldn't keep all three so kept just one. Why? I can't really afford to keep three wide angle lenses. 12m Samyang/Rokinon very sharp, lightweight and compact but awful distance markers didn't correspond to depth of field or infinity. Bought it for landscape and astronomical use and guessed at focussing on a Galaxy Far Far Away. 16mm f1.4 FABULOUSLY sharp quite heavy and limited focal range even though 24mm is my favourite focal range. 10-24mm versatile and sharp at most focal lengths exceptional landscape lens bit duff around 22-24mm. So guess what, I bought the exceptional 16-80 f4 to go with one of the three mentioned above then added a 55-200 and am set. I forgive you for your choice as with your photography style you are absolutely correct. Great vid as ever. I wonder which one I kept?
Wow did not expect that.
Hey Omar I really like your videos! (Always fun)
Ok to the lenses. I have just got an X-T2. (love it). I used to have zoom kit lenses. But if you ask yourself, with a zoom , what length do you shoot. It is always min. or max.! So one actually never "really" uses the zoom. So two cool "Fixies" I prefer now. Lighter, smaller, faster, sharper.. and you don't have to zoom :-)
I got the
16mm/2.8
23mm/2.0
50mm/2.0
With Adapter may old Canon FD 50mm/1.4 and the Canon FD 85mm/1.8
Greetings G
It all depends on style of shooting, I have 10-24mm and love it. That would be my keeper number one, but hey everybody has different style and needs. If I go to Paris … Venice … or doing art street photography here in Melbourne… 10-24mm travels with me.
My choice exactly. Gongrats.
Bought used rokinon 12mm for 150 usd last summer for interior photography. Cheap and effective with A6000. And size! A6000+12mm+kit+youngnuo speedmite with trigger easily carried in my leather briefcase!. Just tripod is outside! Going to buy new very compact peak design tripod. In that case all including tripod will feet in backpack. Don't even think to buy something else as sony 10-18. For rest shots in interior where narrow angle needed using the kit 16-50.
After the release of the Fuji X-T200 this was not the video I was expecting from Omar today.
Out of the 3 lens, I only own the Rokinon 12mm. I think it is light, sharp and the image distortion is not noticeable (I mean in the centre of coz). The downside is manual focus...
Ok. I had my Roki listed for sale. You now have me rethinking that.
okay okay... you kept the Rokinon, but I do have to point out that it's the only one covered in dust (6:06) ;)
I do have the Samyang version of this lens and it has a lot of character. I'm trying to love it more, but I'm leaning towards picking up the 10-24.
Thanks for the review!
dang, going all prime is out of my "safe space" :D, even if I do tend to use primes more
Same. However I have been shooting with a 35mm on my FF Canon and I love the looks.
Hello from Vancouver! :) Great review. Trying to decide 12mm Rokinon vs 10-24mm for my hiking adventures :)
After some time, do you have any regrets for decision?
Hello Omar, soy de Canovanas., acabo de descubrir tu canal excelente.
I got a used 14mm f2.8 prime....AWESOME and mint for 500$ goes great with my 35mm f2.0....only zoom i have is the lowly 16-50 kit lens I bought used yrs ago, I did not even know it have IOS ! since I just got a X-T3 now I want to add either a used 18-55 or maybe the 16-55 but that looks big and heavy....May go with a 18-55 can get easily for under $400 used....I am wanting to get more into Landscape these days. The 14mm is Great for that
I've been thinking, should I get the xt-30 now or wait for the xt-40?
Good Choice, Omar
I bought the Rok 12 based on all the recommendations and ended up selling it. My copy was definitely not sharp and had pretty horrible contrast. I’ve loved the other 2 so far.