These Gibsons Just Tripled In Price!
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Correction I meant to say 2 piece top one piece body.
ALSO Here's the video of us getting the KM 7 Years Ago - czcams.com/video/R0Ky3P535T4/video.html
It's not the physical items going up in value, it's the dollar going down juxtaposed with the demand of older guitars.
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Yeah! WHAT THE HEY, ROB?!! Tryin' to pull a fast one on us...
I did do a double-take when you said that was a one-piece top...
I think I paid under a grand for mine brand new in 79. Man I have never heard the term Clown Burst and much prefer the term Cherry Burst....
Robert, your 1979 KM is famous b/c it has been known as the “Robert Baker” guitar for years. I priced them several years ago (after you had used it in several vids) and it has doubled by then. You made the model famous!!
Everything has tripled in price the last 2 years. Well, except eggs. They are 5 times more valuable now. I’ll trade some eggs for the Les Paul. Name your price.
"80 million votes," folks. 🙄
So true
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Don’t worry. Your fellow Americans are not as dumb as you think they are. No one really voted for him. It was Skynet. The machines have started the process of eliminating humans, and their first move was putting democrats in office.
@@troykelso lol stop it.
Supply and demand.
Retards that bring politics into everything can blow me
My two oldest guitars are both from '96...A USA Peavey Wolfgang Special, and a USA (they're all USA) Carvin dc135. They are both fantastic and I paid $300 for the Wolfie and $288 for the Carvin. Guitars like the KM are way above my reach, but after growing up in poverty, I'm LOVING the guitars I have, and I feel SUPER lucky to have them!
Good on you, and those are both nice guitars !!!
Those USA Wolfies are something to be proud of!
I got a DC135 in '98. A lot of guitars have come and gone since then but I still have the Carvin
I've had epiphones used in the 300-400 dollar price range that give the Gibson's a serious run for the money
When you started talking about your KM a lot more a couple of years ago and that was like the main guitar you used in the old house! I started to fall in love with the KMS and I looked it up and they where still affordable. I think the lowest price I found was like 1700 bucks 1800 bucks. But man 6000 is crazy ! That's wild they went up in price!
2:46 "this is a one piece top" proceeds to show close up of two pieces joined to together
I came to see if I was crazy for thinking it was 2 pieces! Lol
Think your videos and Trogly’s have made peeps list them for pretty high prices.. those ones listed for 7-8K have been sitting up there a while now and prob will till they drop the prices down a bit.. all that said… man that tobacco burst with the double cream and binding is just gorgeous.. I’m hoping to score one some day.. I was born in 79’ too so that really makes me want to make it happen
Yeah, ol' Trogly has had a lot to do with driving the prices up on these things. It's great that he documents these old guitars, yes, and it's nice that he gives people the chance to see guitars that they may otherwise never hear of. But come on - these things are not worth that much money. And now you've got the new Phil McKnight/Tone King collab model going for the "accessible" price of $2500... Lots of good old used guitars out there for nowhere near those prices, just waiting for someone to take them home.
My 70s les Paul is my favorite guitar. It’s a 1973 les paul deluxe factory routed for full sized humbuckers. When I bought it people would always say how bad 70s Gibsons were. I always though I got some hidden gem but it seems like a lot of the 70s Gibsons I have played have been awesome. I think in the 90s a lot of 70s Gibsons were neglected and just needed a good refret/setup. All the 70s Gibsons I come across today are so valuable that their last owners have had them set up or refretted and they play great. Same goes for 70s martins and fenders
My 77 Tobacco sunburst Custom is gorgeous. I've had it from new.
Hmmm - I wonder if my 1978 The Paul (bought new) will see a similar price jump? I bought it precisely because it wasn't like most Les Pauls back then (i.e. ridiculously heavy!) and was a perfect affordable gigging guitar - really well built, totally reliable, high quality pickups and hardware, and it didn't break your back after wearing it for a couple of hours! 😉I still play it most days, so I wouldn't want to part with it, but it would be fun to see The Paul get the credit it deserves as a great workhorse in the Gibson line-up. 😎
That is indeed a 2 piece top. The late 70’s to 1982 had one piece bodies and 3 piece tops, 3 piece maple necks and volute. My fave era ever. Norlin.
I was about to comment on this. Thanks for saving me the time
This being said, the KM’s were really nice as well as those ‘Heritage 80’ Les Paul.
I think the prices are being pumped up, in both the new and used market, to a ridiculous level.
When I was in high school working at a supermarket part time, I was able to buy a new Les Paul and a Marshall JCM 800 half stack. See if you could attempt to do that now without mortgaging your home, provided you own one…
This beautiful Les Paul KM made me switch my Strats with Les Paul....Never looked back....Thx Robert!
Be sure to check completed listings to see what your guitar is actually seling for. BIN prices are mere suggestions from owners looking to get top dollar. Sales are where you'll get an accurate market value. Hopefully you'll find several that have sold so you can get an average price based on originality and condition etc. etc.!
Yeah, no doubt. Asking isn't getting!
The last 3 to sell went for $3600, $3625, and $4000. So they haven't even doubled in value.
'80's Charvel's, ESP's and Jackson's are going to jump in price in the near future. The woods and build quality were great and when coupled with the best of the '80's pickups, these have become absolutely collector's items.
I’m so glad I purchased my 1997 Kalamazoo natural finish Les Paul Deluxe a year and a half ago! I paid less than the cost of a new Standard, for me it’s so much more! Such an amazing guitar, I’m a player ( almost 50 years), and it’s my best! Great video!
My 1979 25th Anniversary Strat has also tripled in price. I paid about $1100 for a white one in 1979. It was stolen and the insurance company "replaced" it with a silver one. In retrospect that was a good thing because most of the white ones have checked. It still plays well. I hardly play it and it is in factory mint condition. I still have the hang tags and case candy.
Hey Robert, I have a 79KM cherry SB that is completely original, including the frets. It's heavy at 10.8 but it plays great and those cream bobbin HBs sound fantastic. It's my understanding that they made 3,000 of these with the first 1500 having the Custom Made plaques. Mine still has the two small screws in the body but the plaque was missing, I did find a plaque that was on the 335s when they were covering stud holes when installing a Bigsby. They look the same.
I bought it in 2005 from a guy that was the second owner and had stopped playing. It had been in his closet for 15 years or so. It literally could pass for 5 years old it's that clean. Anyway, I was at the B3 guitar show in Greenville SC probably 8ish years ago and took it along with a few others to see what kind of offers/trades I could get for them. I ran into Mike Rock who at the time worked for Sam Ash. He offered $2,500 on the spot, even though I only paid $1k for it, I said no. I'm glad I've held onto it. It's a full 2.5lbs heavier than my 72 Goldtop Deluxe LP but it just wails. I know Norlin era gets a bad rap but I love the Deluxe too, those Mini HBs sing!
The most I ever paid for a guitar was $899 for the EVH Black & Yellow striped one. After Eddie died, prices went up. Now they sell for $1150. I also have the "Circle/See Ya" (aka "The Unchained guitar") that I got for $545. It was listed as a blemished item but there's nothing wrong with it. I don't see those anymore. I saw one listed on Reverb for $2300. Since they're discontinued, I think I'll hold on to it a little while longer. 🙂
I have owned a 1997 LP Classic in honeyburst for 20 years. Recently it seems this era is considered well made with great materials and value has increased. (Not as much as Roberts, but still. . )
Yes they have! Good wood era! That ran into the mid 2000’s before things changed.
I bought a 1998 LP Honey Burst and had Les sign it - I know it lowers the value but it was Les Paul and I wanted it more for me, having met him through my former job as GC’s Ntl Promotions Mgr. Anyway, It’s a heavy SOB (9.4lbs!!) but sounds great. I consider it a “recording/home use only” guitar and stays in the case when not being played.
I bought a 1960 reissue Les Paul in aged cherry burst, used, in absolutely perfect condition. It was thee smallest neck ever put on a L.P. and the reason I liked it so much being a Fender guy at heart. It has exposed black humbuckers on it & the finish is gorgeous. The tone is exceptional. I bought it for a Thousand bucks out the door ! That was probably around 2004, 2005ish. If u could even find one now I bet the price would be outrageous at best. My Son will inherit that one, along with all my other beauty's cuz I'll never sell it.
On some websites the 2021 Epiphone Custom Koa Les Paul is $1,300 and the 2021 Epiphone modern figured Sgs are up to and over $1,000..it's just the way it is and these prices soon will effect everywhere including the big box stores still worth it..
I have seen them at these prices
The shredder guitars have already increased in price a bit. I have a 1991 Ibanez RG570 that I bought brand new in '91 for $550, and now I've seen that exact guitar (even the same color) going for anywhere from $750 to $1500. I can see them increasing in value drastically in the next few years. They are incredibly well-playing guitars.
Hey Robert, what ever happened to the Chronos? I haven't seen that guitar on the channel for a while.
Yep. I paid $400 for an RG550 new in ‘87. I have a few of them still. They are listed for more than triple my original price
Robert- the 80s guitars have gone way up. I bought a Charvel Model 6 in 2002 for $350. They are $2k on Reverb now. I also bought a ‘85 LP Custom w/ a Kahler recently and that cost an arm and a leg. 80s guitars are defiantly cool again. I’d start collecting those 90s guitars now!
As the years go on, there’s more and more price gougers. I saw a shop on Reverb offering an Epiphone LP Studio for 1300 and a Squier Affinity Strat for 750.
I discovered Reverb fairly lately and was shocked at how expensive stuff is on there. Granted, prices went nuts in general due to covid and inflation but still, Reverb is so pricey, looks like people are advertising stuff hoping it would sell instead of realistic. I went to look for Epiphone Joe Bonamassa Black Beauty ($800 new year or two ago when it came out) - €1550.
reverb is terrible, the best option has and will always be going out to the specific store that has the specific guitar that you are specifically looking for. if thats not feasible, fb marketplace, gumtree, craigslist and ebay.
@@IdolMako When I lived in a big city (Tucson, AZ), my favorite place to buy guitars was OfferUp. Unfortunately I live in the middle of nowhere, West Virginia now and my only option is gear shopping online. Reverb makes it nearly impossible.
That's insane , I bought one at zZounds for $550 a couple years ago! The Smokehouse burst , beautiful guitar and plays great...
@@mikeg6666 I had a white Studio a few years ago, I picked it up for 399 when Guitar Center was running a sale. Unfortunately I had to sell it to pay some bills when I was medically retired from the service. I miss that thing. No way I’d shell out 1300 for one though!
As much as I love you tube for learning about guitar in general it spreads the word about great guitars, pedals, and amps much faster than word of mouth back before the information station of you tube
Anyone can ask anything they want for these models. Check sold listings. The most expensive one was dead stock and sold just under a year ago for $4999 asking price. Who knows what the final price was.
Everyone thinks their guitars are worth way more than they are. Especially Trogly.
I think it is in part a generational shift, which happens between the 25-35 year mark for players who grew up with the era reaching ages of disposable income as well as the younger players in their circles influenced by the elder players, whether actually well-known artists those they follow locally.
Ten years ago, everyone is bashing the 70s Gibsons and Fenders due to all of the great lawsuit guitars out there coming into their own, but these same folks might pick up a 70-something guitar because they were relatively cheap and had road-earned aesthetics as well as being somewhat vintage.
Now that the 70s have aged between 43-53 years depending on the year-model you buy, no one can argue their value as true vintage guitars.
Great video! To answer your question at the end...yes, I think the Charvels and Kramers especially, are going to skyrocket in price. Even the BC Rich guitars with the 'R' on the headstock, are approaching 10K. I agree with you, now is the time to buy if you can afford to. Excellent to mint condition guitars will probably be good investments.
I have a Washburn HSS guitar from around 1985...had a locking trem system that wasn't very good, so now its a fixed bridge. Every time I pick up that guitar I'm amazed at how well it plays and sounds.
I have a 1993 Fender Custom Shop Tele Jr. I paid $2,000 in 2016, I found a few on Reverb for $3,800. They go from being considered "used" to being vintage and they start to appreciate rather than depreciate.
Same can be said for vintage 70's amps. I bought a stock 1978 Marshall Super Bass head for €500 in 2014. Same era amp now goes for €2,000+ on Reverb
The vintage market is a collector's one, predominantly and as such, vintage classics sit in rooms unplayed, except for those who play where the sound needs to be pristine or in a recording situation.
Several guitarists won't take their "classics" on the road which is understandable. They are like works of art.
I have always wanted a classic LP but never could justify the price.
But to own one good guitar that delivers is worth it and doesn't have to break the bank (for me it was a USA Fender Strat)
The guitar player's world is crazy for the desirable Guitar, amp, pedal etc.
Robert, I've been playing for nearly 50 years, and like you I've played them all. Three years ago I bought a Cool Z Les Paul ZLC1 Dignity from Japan (used) made by Fujigen $550 mint condition with factory Gotoh hardware. The guitar is a beast! After set up (works great with 9 -11's) it blew anything I've every played from Gibson. That was the turning point, sold my 5 Gibson LP's and I don't miss them (in the least). Also, love Fender Strats (my first choice of axe), but over the past 5 yrs the prices are insane. So, I started playing the Ibanez Prestige AZ (yep Fujigen again), and I'm sorry Fender but you have been out classed by the AZ line. Kind of sad, that I have to pay $2700 for a Fender Ultra Luxe (production model), when I bought a Presiteg AZ for $1699 with better base specs with flawess workmanship. Now I'm down to 2 strats from 10, and those will be sold this year.
I currently have a custom plaque Natural in my collection - I've documented Plaque Cherry, but don't own that one anymore. Haven't had plaque tobacco yet. One day I'll have all 3! haha. There are also a handful of ebony KMs out there - I saw one last year
I just got a 1983 Marshall JCM800 4210. I got it in a trade, and was shocked at what they are selling for even in poor condition. This one works, and is in decent condition. It needs maintenance, which I'm doing. I am switching out the speaker to a G12H-75 Cream back, but that shouldn't hurt the value.
USA Jackson, ESP, Kramer American and Focus series are already all there. Check out 80's JEM as well.
About vintage/modern sutff, slightly off your videos topic. A year ago i got myself a fresh out of factory Gibson LP 50s. And it is absolutely, seriously tremendiously killer guitar. They really really nailed it at Gibson with this model. I was comparing it with LP 60s and PRS S2 245, and 50s is 2 inches above if you are looking for a vintage feel and sound. Everyone who does should definitely should check them out.
Also Tim Pierce has some quality vids about why modern guitars are much more conviniet if not straight better then vintage one, if you are a player not a collector.
It will if there is a market. Old Gibsons LP, ES are crazy priced. I have my fathers 1960 ES355TDSV and the value is nuts. He paid $600 when he bought it back then.
The early eighties Gibson XR-1 is one to keep an eye on also.I paid $900 a few years ago on Reverb.Rare to see them for sale.
I do believe those 80s guitars are going to continue to go up in price for sure. I'm glad I bought my 1989 charvel when I did (its now worth at least double what I payed for it)
Some I missed your correction there. In a way I hate seeing these vids, because mine disappeared and I can't afford to replace it!! I bought it from the Gibson rep in a Chicago shop for 450!! No typo!! I still have the amp I bought with it! And it's guaranteed for life!! I doubt they will stand by the warranty now!! But who knows? Good vid!!
I agree that prices are going so high. It comes down to what the marker will bear. Worst yet, it is hard to determine if it’s a fake.
I have a Rickenbacker 660/12TP Tom Petty Signature that I bought in the early 90s - they want 8 to 9k for them. I am in shock. I would never sell it but I paid about 1200 for it
I got a 2013 Les Paul 60s Tribute for under $700. I'm happy with it.
A guitar is worth what somebody is willing to pay for it.
Fluff will have a video about the crazy prices. LOL I bought my 1980 LP Custom Black Beauty for 3K from Chicage Music. I've noticed Reverb has some outrageous prices, people are very proud of their gear. LOL
Well good news for me too. Bought my ,'Cherry Burst' brand new in 79....without plaque..(I'm glad..that plaque is ugly)...plays great. Weighs a ton. Certainly hasn't gone up in price as fast as my 2019 Tom Murphy Wildwood Spec 59, but glad it is finally getting some love..(they only made around 1500 KMs) so it is about time. Of all the Les Pauls I have (seems I collect them) the KM is the heaviest at nearly 11 lbs., but that weight contributes to the sustain it has. Went to sell it a couple years back but decided to plug it in for a last go before I listed it. Took about 2 mins to change my mind. Hot pickups and great sustain and I changed my mind. My first Les Paul is still with me today and I am glad of that.
I still have my first guitar. 1979 Gibson The Paul. Walnut body, Ebony fretboard, Black T Top pickups. Paid $350 with a hardshell case. Still my favorite too. Now $1600-$1700 on Reverb!
his name is "Lord Trogley"
I have a seventies vintage Les Paul Standard (not km) that still had deluxe on the headstock but standard on the truss rod cover and full size patented p/ups, in tobacco burst. It is original and very good condition. I plan to sell it. I looked at similar guitars on Reverb to get a sense of pricing. Pricing for LPs are all over the map. People are asking fantastic prices on some. My background is business with an emphasis on economics. I would point out that asking is not the same as receiving. Many of these LP guitars have been for sale on Reverb for more than a year. You can't determine what your guitar is worth until you have the money in your hand. Frankly, I'm not excited. I will more than likely sell my guitar for more than I paid, but again, the difference is purely speculation at this point.
Norlin era Gibson's have their own charm, non-traditional they are a beast of their own. 70's or 80's they're getting pricey.
Yes I think 80’s guitars are already jumping up in price ( if they are clean ) I bought an Washburn A10 in 81 ( it’s a 79 model ) brand new in 81 for $500.00, even in todays market with the rise in value rates, that guitar fetches $1,800.00 to $2000.00 on EBay or Reverb.
The market dictates the prices that some are willing to pay, prices aren’t always high for Gibson or Fender there are other manufacturers that guitarist want from back catalogues, Washburn ( US or Japan ) made are selling well atm.
The prices on Reverb are what people "want" for their guitar not necessarily what it is worth. If everyone lists them for around the same amount then, that's what you'll have to pay to get one, again not what they're worth.
From what I researched back in the day, there were only about 1500 of these made (1979). Picked my tobacco up in 1989 for $1200. And agreed, I won't ever sell it.
I've got a 73 les Paul standard, love it and I've played the heck out of it.
I owned 1972 les paul deluxe, dark cherry sunburst and a rare wine red stained back and sides. Embossed pickup covers. Light and resonate. I would put that guitar up against ANYTHING gibson ever produced.
It is crazy. Want to really flip your lid, check out the brown Princeton since Fender released the Stapleton reissue. They’re in the $3600-5000 range now. 2019, they were a $1500-2000 amp.
The 80’s stuff is definitely going up in value, but I think for now it’s the more traditional instruments, not shredder. Just look at the fullerton reissues, the US vintage line. They’re hitting $3,000 now.
I was going to ask you about the 'seam' in your 1 pc top, I see you figured that out though. LOL Just a suggestion, I would look at 'sold' ones, to see that they actually sold for. You can ask anything for it, what people are willing to pay is the real price. Gibson loaded up and took a bunch of mahogany when they left Kalamazoo. Some of that showed up in the late 70's from Kalamazoo and 80's from Nashville. They left behind the 100+ year old mahogany! There were 'guitar kits' made from some of that! Those rare things are floating around and show up once in awhile. There is a NRG video from years ago where Norm and some buddies talk about all that stuff. It's worth digging up and watching!! Cheers --gary
You also have to also Consider and factor in Inflation and the fact that the Purchasing Power of a Buck has been drastically Eroding in the last few years and Decades.. But Hey, that's still a really Sweet Les Paul!!! : ) Happy New Year!!! ; ) Enjoy!!! : )
Your playing got even better man
Young players today don't care a bit about vintage guitars. They go for the latest, coolest guitars. It's older players with money that drive the vintage market. IMO
Thanks Robert, having been in my early teens in the late 70s, they are ok guitars (at best) and have similar qualities to 70s cars. Cool looking, but with issues. I bought my 73 Deluxe in 78 and it's my baby, but I wouldn't rave about it's quality or looks. I almost fell over 10 years ago at asking price for something similar and it's gotten worse. Played professionally in the 80s during the guitar play boom and I fully expect that vintage to go crazy soon. A good early 80s Charvel or Jackson used to be in the mid hundreds, now in the thousands and climbing.
Everything goes up for the same reasons - nostalgia - supply and demand - Gibsons are after all Gibsons - people continue to covet them bc of each decade there are minor differences built in - then someone discovers there own sound on a particular model - and everyone else rushes out to to replicate - there aren’t but so many factory originals bc we change shit - so those immediately go to the front as the most coveted and bring the most money - and the cycle carries on - I can’t remember whether it was a Plymouth Superbird or a Dodge Daytona - but it was a Hemi - all original less than 5000 miles on the clock bring 1.3 Million at a televised auction - that car sold brand new for about half what you would pay for an R9 in great shape today. Soooo - I don’t think anyone has the answer as to where it will stop - but I def agree - buying sooner than later is always better. Thanks for the video - I’m a beginner in the guitar world - but I already love what I’m seeing. Keep on rocking Robert Baker! Keep the videos coming - Have a great week!
I have a 1979 Ibanez PF Performer 400 in Antique Violin for sale on Reverb as we speak!! Very rare and known as the “Lespaul “ killer because of the Super 70’s pickups that were developed at that time to compete with Gibson!! Some great guitars of that era for sure!
I’ve had my KM since 2000 and still love it! I paid around $1,500 for it at the Denver Guitar Center.
Another possible factor on the jump in price could be Gibson releasing the signature model of Adam Jones’ 1979 silverburst Les Paul Custom. I think when they start making expensive reissues and signature models from 70’s guitars, it shows that there is something to them, which drives interest.
I have a Fender Custom Shop setneck Strat from '93 that was supposed to retail for $2,200. I picked it up new in '94 for $900. Last year, I saw one go for $5,500 on Reverb, but it had been modded and restored. Mine is all original - zero stories - so I could probably get a bit more if I was ever inclined to let it go.
4 years ago I bought a 73 Gibson SG custom on reverb for 1925.00. Now price the SG customs from that era.
I often wonder what my ‘87 Gibson SG Elite would go for now on the used market. I paid $321 including tax and the Hondo that I traded back around ‘90-‘91. I’ve had it the entire time and it’s a keeper.
I have a LP (KM?) that looks like yours too. Judging by the serial number, it would fall into the Kalamazoo-made Les Paul's as a KM. Mine has the Double cream T Top in the neck, the correct range serial number, wide binding in the cutaway, 2 piece maple cap, the same tuners as yours... However, the Truss Rod cover is a plain black cover instead of Les Paul KM, and the bridge pickup has been swapped out for a Dimarzio Al DiMeola 4 conductor pup to permit coil tapping and out of phase switching. Mine was obviously a player.
I don't really think typical the 80's shredders will jump up in price astronomically. Unless they were made famous by an artist. Even the Jackson RR series guitars are affordable still. Bolt on or set neck. I have a 1993 Jackson RR3 That I paid $900 for in 2011. It is a bolt on neck guitar that came with EMG's and a hard shell case. It is still worth about $900 to the right person today. It has not gone up in value, but it has stayed at the dollar amount. But...always a but, $900 in 2011 is about $1200 today. So it has actually gone down in value. That is the kicker. Inflation has gone overboard in the last couple of years. So dollar amounts then, are no where near dollar amounts now. Hope that made sense. Thanks for the vid. I love your channel and truly enjoy listening to you.
I think you've hit the nail on the head in that the 70's are now considered 'vintage' enough to become more desirable. I have a '71 Precision Bass and the secondhand price for those has really jumped in the past 2-3 years.
I have a Gibson lp from 1986. But I play a thin.neck strat .copy.that cost 75 dollars at pawn shop. Might been 80 new. Lol love it. I played rhe Gibson for 2 decades every weekend in dives and it always sounded good. The pick up selector been replaced several times bit that's it. Finish worn off.neck back lot. It just rests now after many years labor
I think the 1975 Deluxe with the 5 piece maple neck will be next. I know of one with a natural relic that will make Murphy Lab jump backwards. It's on its fourth set of frets. And those frets were worn out for a good reason. It's magic. Plays like a dream, sounds better. It's a special one-of-a-kind instrument. It looks like a guitar that has been played to death for 50 years, because it has been played like hell for 50 years. It's still being played like hell. It will see a 5th set of frets in the future.
Another reason the 70’s ones could be going up is because there are no real reproductions of them. Gibson makes every golden era reissues you could want but apart from the standard Gibson USA LP “Deluxe” with mini hums, there’s no like “Gibson custom historic reissue 1975 Les Paul standard” so the true vintage is the only actual option. They’ll likely start to fetch prices that convince Gibson to reissue them perhaps, then you could get a modern reissue that would, like reissues of 50’s/60’s guitars, have all the specs with none of the problems of the true vintage. Then the true vintage will either drop or increase in price due to the availability of an accurate reissue
Gibson SG used prices appear to be rising too! Just when I want to finally get one.
I’m just glad I already have gear that I like playing. Because the prices of things has absolutely gone out of control in a way non-correlative to inflation
I'd say yes, it's coming. Look at ESP for instance. They obviously do their homework, and they've been really really pushing that whole 87 reissue series of guitars as of late. They've had them for a while, but it seems like in the last year, the marketing of these guitars has superseded some of the models they were pushing harder a few years ago.
Very interesting video Robert. I wonder about the prices going up being due to multiple things: perhaps folks are realizing that not all the golden area guitars were super great despite the years of rumors, supply vs demand, etc? I think channels like yours and others are waking a lot of people up to great “underdog” guitars, which could be influencing the demand.
Part of what has happened is a Supply vs. Demand function. The solid body guitar market from 1950 - 64 was comparatively small compared to 1965 - 1980. That first group has appreciated so much that it has pushed buyers of vintage into the second larger group with intially much lower prices and greater availability over the last decade. After all, that second group is between 43 and 58 years old now. So if your 44 year old KM isn't vintage enough, then what is?
My dad has a 79 KM that he bought back in 84. It used to be a fad to have your initials engraved in the truss rod cover.. he didn’t know KM stood for Kalamazoo 😂 so he tossed the truss rod cover out because he thought KM was a person
Everybody knows what a LP is except my grandmother, but she did know a strat when she saw one. I think this is moving into the collector market area where value is based on what someone will pay not what it actually delivers, and also supply and demand. Fewer people know what the '80s guitars are, so there will be less demand.
Anything 80's usa or japan are sky rocketing. Especialy jacksons, esp, and ibanez. They play fantastic
One of the factors in the price going up for 70's and newer is, the 50's and 60's most of them have been bought and there are only just so many available. If some go on the market they are so much higher the actual working guitar player won't be able to afford them. Only doctors, lawyers and corporate investors would be able to buy them. 🤑
Look at the Adam Jones guitars. Those are from 1979 and they tripled in price a couple years ago when Tool finally made a new album.
Les Paul Cork Sniffers: "mmmm classic bursts.... -.- " Joe Riffpack: "dafuq are these prices for?! o.O "
I've got a tobacco burst 1974 special order standard with ohsc I've had for over 30 years. Saw a similar one sell on reverb for 10k recently now I'm thinking it's time to part with this old 10 pounder.
Thank you Robert, I actually have a KM with the custom made plate on it. It just like yours ( Tobacco burst). I love it !!!
I remember when you & Gabby went to get that KM!
You could be right about the '80s guitars. People are fascinated with the '80s just now.
NOT SUR if ACE FREHLEY had a KM in the 70's...but he for SURE COMES TO MIND with a TOBACCO BURST LP in the 70's.....LOL...AND HE INSPIRED MANY TO PLAY AS WELL. Congrads on your INVESTMENT coming to fruitation Robert......COOL NUFF HEY ???? Ohhhh Yeah...... GOD BLESS ALL....ROCK ON !!!!!!!!1.....TUBE AMPS GOING SKY HIGH AS WELL BRO !!!!!!!!!!
I wish I still had my 1980 Black Beauty Custom Les Paul. I”m sure it went way up in value, I did not sell it it got incredibly damaged in a flood that I came home too. Huge loss not just for the value but it was an amazing guitar. It was such a long time ago, and I didn’t think it could get fixed. You see the amazing fixes on CZcams now that would of helped me 30 years ago lol. It’s nice that guitars go up in value after time, but I just want to play them.that Les Paul you have? Keep it she’s beautiful.
I’ve got a ‘67 F100 I bought 30 years ago for $800. I’ve put several hundred thousand miles on it, and it’s due for it’s second full rebuild. Found out I could easily pull $15 to $20k. Blows my mind....
Asking and selling price aren't always the same thing
Awesome sweater dude
I am looking for the Strat Pluses to make a jump as they become better known with collectors. The 87 -89 Plus and Plus deluxe are my favs
Fender did an amazing job of coming out with a massive number of finishes, some of them rarer than others like the shell, pink,. I have owned over 45 of them in my lifetime but I only have five of my favorite keepers in unique combination of lace center pick ups and finishes necks and hardware. If they have a triple in price, I’ll probably kick myself but that’s OK. They say that you can’t take it with you, I’m taking them with me :-)
i had one of those in 1981- 1983 - cherry sunburst - saw it up for sale for over $3k a number of years ago. Could not rebuy it!
It's 100% gonna happen to '80s guitars, ESPECIALLY the ones that had original Floyds or Schaller Floyds, and also especially the survivors of the "had a thin heel joint but doesn't have a crack forming there" category.
80's axes will probably driven by in-person auditions and serial numbers. Compound radius fingerboards and famous components are a plus. Salesman Rule #1: The third time you see someone, they're gonna buy something.
For sure the 80’s shredder guitars will especially chattel
The 1980s Charvels and the USA Texas built Jacksons will skyrocket in a few years.
I had one each back in the mid 80s but picked up my first Les Paul amd that is all I have played since but those USA Jacksons were damn great guitars and really the best quality/function combo for playing that genre back then.
I had a Charvel unfinished neck with an unfinished maple fretboard Jackson pick up with a Khaler that just couldn't stay in tune, should have kept it even after a cymbal fell and shipped/gashed the body. Mine had a back plate with the Fort Worth address on it but it wasn't made in Texas, it was just the mailing address for the distributor. These early modded or hot rod Strat styles became a dime a dozen but the early models (before they were bought by Fender) USA made axes could be an alternative to the expensive vintage LPs and Strats. Funny how the 80's may be destined to be "vintage".
I saw a 13 year old kid going crazy at guitar center over an 82 peavy. He was so excited and telling everyone about his dad teaching him to play and "IT'S JUST LIKE THE ONE HE USED TO HAVE!". He's lucky. Only reason I didn't get it weeks before was because the store had "mislabeled" the price from one week to the next. Indeed, The prices are already going up on 80's guitars right now.
Yep and most of them suck. Good luck. Anybody that own guitar in the eighties know that the 80s were some of the worst times were instruments were produced. But you keep trend following
@@beefnacos6258 I wanted it because it was cheap, in good shape, and had a unique sound due to the metal nut. It was also one one the first mass produced guitars cut on a cnc machine. I only mention it in relation to the end of the video. I really don't care. Neither should you. Quit being pissy