(SPOILERS FOR THE ENDING OF THE GAME/THE WHOLE GAME AND MYSTERY) After finishing Umineko.. you just made me realize what this note was saying. Because of the explosion, Maria's body would be completely gone.
This song always makes me think of how proud I was that I finished episode 1. It was my first ever VN. But this song is sort of like a fine wine to accent a great dinner. The end of Episode 1 was so mind-blowingly desperate, dramatic and suspenseful. Then this song really drives home, "When the seagulls cried, there were no survivors."
y'know... in retrospect, this overused quote starts to makes sense. Before reading the VN when I saw this quote, I thought Beatrice some character in the game that was loved by the MC. While reading the VN, and I saw the quote again, I thought it meant that Beatrice was truly revived because magic. So Kinzo the maniac was in love with Beatrice and sacrificed his family in pursuit of Beatrice. After reading the VN, it was all a misunderstanding. Beatrice was never revived. And yet, sleep peacefully- rather than the expectation of sacrificing his family for Beatrice, sleep peacefully was in fact a solemn mourning. Irony at its finest. Cos perhaps 'truly' refers to the existence of Beatrice only coming to light on that day?
@@ambrose7196 Of course I agree. The last lines of the epitaph get a completely new, unexpected meaning after we get to know events of 29th November 1984. The same goes for resurrection of the love that was lost by the way. A completely new meaning you wouldn't normally expect. Also omg it's 5 years already? It's crazy
This is when I knew Umineko would be something special. The sheer scope of it's mystery was so insane to me. And then that roll sequence in the end was just amazing. So many questions. So much pain. When the seagulls cried, none were left alive. *Sleep peacefully, my most beloved witch, Beatrice.*
@@WorthlessWinner God that feeling, I really want to go back trough the whole VN one day. That moment when she solves the puzzle, discovers the gold, when Genji tells her the truth when she meets Kinzo. There is NOT a SINGLE STORY that did so much to me than this one at this exact moment. Just thinking back on it makes me choke a bit. Nothing came close ever since.
@@LunaticThinker honestly i just wish i could forget the entirety of ep 7. not because i want to play it again, i just want to forget it. it hurts. so fucking much.
I don't know why, for the most part of the VN I hated Kinzo. But that scene from Episode 7 where this played. It's one of the few times I cried hard in Umineko. I can't exactly explain why, especially without spoilers. But that scene was just beautifully tragic to me, I couldn't hold back my tears.
You know, this novel really changed my way of thinking toward stories of the mystery genre. As an avid mystery reader and fan of the murder mystery genre, I often times fall into a one-dimensional way of thinking. From the second I learn that the story is a murder mystery, I would jump right in and try to reach the first death while keeping an eye out for foreshadowing or clues that may help me discover who the murderer is. Sentimental moments are superficial and secondary, only serving to disguise the murderer's actions. There was no point in getting to know the characters and their backstories, aside from their possible motive for murder. To me, they felt like pieces on a chessboard that needed to fall first in order to paint a more clearer view of the game state. But as I read Umineko, some human part of me began to surface. These characters weren't just stand-ins to increase the body count. Each of them had complex characterizations that caused them to act the way they do and drives them. All the characters were human, each of them being morally gray in the sense that there are some things that they've done that were sinful yet you still feel sympathetic for them after learning their intentions. The ones that come off rude and obnoxious in Ep1 always had a caring side that you don't get to see until later on into the story. It got to a point where I found that I actually liked all the characters despite their rough edges. It made me realize that they weren't just random strangers, but a family that someone else (Battler) sincerely cherished. Krauss seemed rude and haughty at first, but you realize that he really cares for his family. He's gullible and ended up falling into a scam that robbed him and his family of their money. He ended up stomaching his pride and worked together with wife in order to repay the debts. It wasn't easy for him as he was the main breadwinner of the family, but his naivety was forgiven by the work he did to fix his mistake. Eva was quite the hotheaded jerk throughout the first several episodes, but if there was one thing, is that she is very caring for not only her family, but the families of the others as well. She dearly loves George and her husband, but also likes Battler, Jessica, Maria and Ange as well through her actions. Characters in the games cannot deviate much from their original characters and her actions with the children shows how much she cares for others though she may hate her siblings. Ange later realizes this but was too late to reciprocate the feelings. Rudolf is a playboy and had many faults of his own regarding his marriages. But if there was one thing, he really cares for his family as well. He did his best to provide for Asumu and Kyrie despite his original intentions and still loved Kyrie even though she tricked him. He's an incompetent father but still supports his children to their fullest, allowing Battler to cool down for 6 years at his grandparents' while still providing for him. Rosa is a mixed bag. We cannot forgive her actions though we can understand why she went through with them. Although her intentions are good, she, like the rest of her siblings, fail to properly convey them. We often joke around saying Rosa is "Best Mom" in quotes but Ep 2 is where she went full BEST MOM. Kinzo of course, has a lot of problems of his own, especially regarding Beatrice and the subsequent offspring. He cannot be redeemed for his sins but at the same time, you can't help but be sympathetic for him of the problems he caused. His joyful laughter during the Halloween Party and smile really warms the heart. The more I read, the more my perspective changed. It went from "Alright, these people are now dead. What can I figure out from their bodies?" to "This was a horrible tragedy that shouldn't have happened". This mindset struck me with a large force as I found myself guilty of doing the former more often than not in other murder mysteries. Though murder mysteries are fun to puzzle and reason, Umineko reminded me that the lives of the people in the story are the ones that are being toyed with by the reader. That these are people that others care about. That I shouldn't lose sight of my humanity. That without love, the truth cannot be seen.
@@konaplays1920 Oh my god, I haven't read your reply until now, I'm glad I happened to return to this piece and scroll to the comments again. A wonderful realization that I believe most of us had went through as we read Umineko. It deconstructs the mystery genre; questions and challenges its readers. It really is a phenomenal work, and its impact is yet matched by any other VN I've read so far and in general only a few stories I've personally experienced comes close to it.
Because I play this music whenever I work on projects, for some reason, this song always plays right when I finish. It's the ultimate finish line music- I feel like I've accomplished so much.
Siiiigh, I get the feeling that if I hadn't watched the anime, not knowing the plot would have made the story that much more inciting. But then again, I wouldn't have read the VN without watching the anime.
Answer Arc may have been awesome but episode 1 will always be the peak of Umineko in my heart. Having recently read 'And Then There Were None', I've realised how lacking the ten characters are. As a mystery, it sets up the mystery and does nothing else. I expect the characters to die and the book ends. Umineko on the other hand, nothing can compare to the 'WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS ENDING?!?!' when the credits rolled.
Yes but you have to realize that Christie's works are classical mystery literature, where the plot is treated more as a tool to set a game between the reader and the mystery than as a full-fledged story with drama and character development. In "then there were none" the characters are basically just elements in the mechancis of the mystery itself, they never are meant to complete a journey as people or be known by the reader in a more intimate-level. :) And, well, without "And then there were none" we probably would've never had an Umineko or other beautiful stories that are inspired by it!
The way the begining totally plays with our expectations is insane, from that scary sfx you would never be able to anticipate the raw emotion that the song's going to hit you with
I still get that sense of awe and remember the scrolling text. Even years later after I've finished all the novels and the anime and the manga... I'm like Episode 1 was sure a masterpiece.
By the time you have read this, I will probably be dead. Although there may or may not be a corpse. You who have read this, please find out the truth. That's my only wish. - Ushiromiya Maria
I have now finished Umineko, at 1:57, February 27th, one week afterwards. Week one summary. (Beautiful) In the waves we find a bottle. It is a request for help and a plead for answer. Today I shall try my best to find out what happened. I am not anything new, yet this bottle shall bring change to everything further know.
Today is Oct.4th. The last day before the unavoidable fate falls upon the everyone on the Rokken island. May the death be gentle to everyone and sleep, my beloved witch, Beatrice.
man every time i watch an umineko video nowadays i always get ads for certa pro painters or however you spell it and its like “the power of certainty” and im like do they.. know their audience or is this just a big coincidence. lambda moment i guess
l see everybody writing about that moment with Kinzo when this played, but l cannot remember when it played(it has been like over 2 years since l read the entire VN after all)
When this song plays and kinzo finally realizes the identity of his long lost son lion (daughter by gender identity) it is beautiful and bittersweet it made me just bawl.
MsMrPotatoes Ah bah forcément, c'est le seul avec le 8 que j'ai pas fini XD Mais cette musique, quoi. Pour moi le meilleur thème de tous les Umineko confondu !
Bah il a pas mal d'autres musiques géniales, mais celle là est vraiment cool.On avait fait un genre de vote et au final c'était Golden nocturne qui avait finit premier.
Je vois oe genre de vote, mais je trouve pas que Golden Nocturne soit si génial. Je veux dire, la scène est superbe mais .... Bah je sais pas, c'est pas ma préférée.
"If you are reading this, then I am probably dead... though there may or may not be a body..."
(SPOILERS FOR THE ENDING OF THE GAME/THE WHOLE GAME AND MYSTERY)
After finishing Umineko.. you just made me realize what this note was saying. Because of the explosion, Maria's body would be completely gone.
@@Banner. Spoiler for the entire game:
Also the true writer of that line is under the Ocean somewhere, so they could or couldn't find the body.
This song makes Umineko's 1st Episode Ending so scary. When you don't know what happened, Who's the killer, how did they die, WHAT HAPPENED?!
Somehow Espurr makes this comment better.
I actually cried on this part while reading the novel for the second time.
Knowing the truth behind the letter changes everything.
The culprit is S$%^ #@^
@@sirenwizard2851 Umineko's reread is an amazing experience. It really blows your mind
@@AskonDBZ true. My life changed after understand all this story. What a masterpiece ❤️
This song always makes me think of how proud I was that I finished episode 1. It was my first ever VN.
But this song is sort of like a fine wine to accent a great dinner. The end of Episode 1 was so mind-blowingly desperate, dramatic and suspenseful. Then this song really drives home, "When the seagulls cried, there were no survivors."
Umineko is my favorite piece of media ever, because it really did change a lot about how I see things.
Without love, it cannot be seen.
I honestly prefer the other translation that goes "When the seagulls cried, none were left alive."
It just sounds better imo.
It was all according to Sayo Yasuda's plans
@@ChikyuuKun You are unhinged.
@@ChikyuuKun whatswrong with u man
Today is the day when Beatrice truly revived.
Sleep peacefully, my most beloved witch, Beatrice.
oh?
y'know... in retrospect, this overused quote starts to makes sense.
Before reading the VN when I saw this quote, I thought Beatrice some character in the game that was loved by the MC.
While reading the VN, and I saw the quote again, I thought it meant that Beatrice was truly revived because magic.
So Kinzo the maniac was in love with Beatrice and sacrificed his family in pursuit of Beatrice.
After reading the VN, it was all a misunderstanding. Beatrice was never revived. And yet, sleep peacefully- rather than the expectation of sacrificing his family for Beatrice, sleep peacefully was in fact a solemn mourning.
Irony at its finest. Cos perhaps 'truly' refers to the existence of Beatrice only coming to light on that day?
@@ambrose7196 Of course I agree. The last lines of the epitaph get a completely new, unexpected meaning after we get to know events of 29th November 1984.
The same goes for resurrection of the love that was lost by the way. A completely new meaning you wouldn't normally expect.
Also omg it's 5 years already? It's crazy
This is when I knew Umineko would be something special. The sheer scope of it's mystery was so insane to me. And then that roll sequence in the end was just amazing. So many questions. So much pain.
When the seagulls cried, none were left alive.
*Sleep peacefully, my most beloved witch, Beatrice.*
hi again.
ong bro after reading all night until 5am the vibes were INSANE
>When this plays again in EP8
God, the callbacks were real. And it really was quite the nice bookend to Prime.
this nigga knows whats up
Where did it play in EP8? I don't remember.
I mostly associate this with EP7, when someone enters the gold room and puts on the Beatrice dress
@@WorthlessWinner God that feeling, I really want to go back trough the whole VN one day. That moment when she solves the puzzle, discovers the gold, when Genji tells her the truth when she meets Kinzo. There is NOT a SINGLE STORY that did so much to me than this one at this exact moment. Just thinking back on it makes me choke a bit. Nothing came close ever since.
@@LunaticThinker honestly i just wish i could forget the entirety of ep 7. not because i want to play it again, i just want to forget it. it hurts. so fucking much.
"Can you ever forgive me, for the sin I've committed?"
First read-through, this scene is terrifying and mysterious.
Second read-through, this scene is as poignant as can be.
I don't know why, for the most part of the VN I hated Kinzo. But that scene from Episode 7 where this played. It's one of the few times I cried hard in Umineko. I can't exactly explain why, especially without spoilers. But that scene was just beautifully tragic to me, I couldn't hold back my tears.
You know, this novel really changed my way of thinking toward stories of the mystery genre. As an avid mystery reader and fan of the murder mystery genre, I often times fall into a one-dimensional way of thinking. From the second I learn that the story is a murder mystery, I would jump right in and try to reach the first death while keeping an eye out for foreshadowing or clues that may help me discover who the murderer is. Sentimental moments are superficial and secondary, only serving to disguise the murderer's actions. There was no point in getting to know the characters and their backstories, aside from their possible motive for murder. To me, they felt like pieces on a chessboard that needed to fall first in order to paint a more clearer view of the game state.
But as I read Umineko, some human part of me began to surface. These characters weren't just stand-ins to increase the body count. Each of them had complex characterizations that caused them to act the way they do and drives them. All the characters were human, each of them being morally gray in the sense that there are some things that they've done that were sinful yet you still feel sympathetic for them after learning their intentions. The ones that come off rude and obnoxious in Ep1 always had a caring side that you don't get to see until later on into the story. It got to a point where I found that I actually liked all the characters despite their rough edges. It made me realize that they weren't just random strangers, but a family that someone else (Battler) sincerely cherished.
Krauss seemed rude and haughty at first, but you realize that he really cares for his family. He's gullible and ended up falling into a scam that robbed him and his family of their money. He ended up stomaching his pride and worked together with wife in order to repay the debts. It wasn't easy for him as he was the main breadwinner of the family, but his naivety was forgiven by the work he did to fix his mistake.
Eva was quite the hotheaded jerk throughout the first several episodes, but if there was one thing, is that she is very caring for not only her family, but the families of the others as well. She dearly loves George and her husband, but also likes Battler, Jessica, Maria and Ange as well through her actions. Characters in the games cannot deviate much from their original characters and her actions with the children shows how much she cares for others though she may hate her siblings. Ange later realizes this but was too late to reciprocate the feelings.
Rudolf is a playboy and had many faults of his own regarding his marriages. But if there was one thing, he really cares for his family as well. He did his best to provide for Asumu and Kyrie despite his original intentions and still loved Kyrie even though she tricked him. He's an incompetent father but still supports his children to their fullest, allowing Battler to cool down for 6 years at his grandparents' while still providing for him.
Rosa is a mixed bag. We cannot forgive her actions though we can understand why she went through with them. Although her intentions are good, she, like the rest of her siblings, fail to properly convey them. We often joke around saying Rosa is "Best Mom" in quotes but Ep 2 is where she went full BEST MOM.
Kinzo of course, has a lot of problems of his own, especially regarding Beatrice and the subsequent offspring. He cannot be redeemed for his sins but at the same time, you can't help but be sympathetic for him of the problems he caused. His joyful laughter during the Halloween Party and smile really warms the heart.
The more I read, the more my perspective changed. It went from "Alright, these people are now dead. What can I figure out from their bodies?" to "This was a horrible tragedy that shouldn't have happened". This mindset struck me with a large force as I found myself guilty of doing the former more often than not in other murder mysteries. Though murder mysteries are fun to puzzle and reason, Umineko reminded me that the lives of the people in the story are the ones that are being toyed with by the reader. That these are people that others care about. That I shouldn't lose sight of my humanity. That without love, the truth cannot be seen.
@@konaplays1920 Oh my god, I haven't read your reply until now, I'm glad I happened to return to this piece and scroll to the comments again. A wonderful realization that I believe most of us had went through as we read Umineko. It deconstructs the mystery genre; questions and challenges its readers. It really is a phenomenal work, and its impact is yet matched by any other VN I've read so far and in general only a few stories I've personally experienced comes close to it.
@@konaplays1920 this comment is amazing. Agree 100%
i still hate kinzo :)
I love Kinzo(as a character)
Because I play this music whenever I work on projects, for some reason, this song always plays right when I finish. It's the ultimate finish line music- I feel like I've accomplished so much.
I'm kinda wanting to re-read this again. This story has turned my life around in such a positive way. I need a break from everything for a while
This Bgm.
EP7.
That scene.
T__T
I don't remember, when did it happen?
Every time I listen this, I literally cry. God the feels are real
Siiiigh, I get the feeling that if I hadn't watched the anime, not knowing the plot would have made the story that much more inciting. But then again, I wouldn't have read the VN without watching the anime.
My deepest condolescences.
My condolences.
Answer Arc may have been awesome but episode 1 will always be the peak of Umineko in my heart.
Having recently read 'And Then There Were None', I've realised how lacking the ten characters are.
As a mystery, it sets up the mystery and does nothing else. I expect the characters to die and the book ends.
Umineko on the other hand, nothing can compare to the 'WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS ENDING?!?!' when the credits rolled.
Yes but you have to realize that Christie's works are classical mystery literature, where the plot is treated more as a tool to set a game between the reader and the mystery than as a full-fledged story with drama and character development. In "then there were none" the characters are basically just elements in the mechancis of the mystery itself, they never are meant to complete a journey as people or be known by the reader in a more intimate-level. :)
And, well, without "And then there were none" we probably would've never had an Umineko or other beautiful stories that are inspired by it!
@@youtubezio2713Also, umineko itself critics the mistery that don't care about the "whydunit"
Episode 1 sooooo underrated especially when I knew fuck all about the series
The way the begining totally plays with our expectations is insane, from that scary sfx you would never be able to anticipate the raw emotion that the song's going to hit you with
2:10 feels like some of xi's songs
@@chfr
Same, Umineko is masterpiece. Timeless story. :)
This is one of those “holy fucking shit” pieces of music. This is so damn good, I can’t even
On g bro
This song sends shivers down my spine.
Umineko is a masterpiece
hears the first 20 seconds
(remembers how awsome this VN is)
*FUCK YEAH!!!*
I still get that sense of awe and remember the scrolling text. Even years later after I've finished all the novels and the anime and the manga... I'm like Episode 1 was sure a masterpiece.
Jawdropping
I see what you did there
When they cry, everyone drowns in their sins.
Anyway, death is the greatest of peaces.
By the time you have read this, I will probably be dead.
Although there may or may not be a corpse.
You who have read this, please find out the truth.
That's my only wish.
- Ushiromiya Maria
We're not making it past rokkenjima with this one
みんなから長年隠されてきた自分の知らない出生や生い立ちを聞かされた時にこの曲が脳内に流れた
today is october 4th, a day to be remembered
I have now finished Umineko, at 1:57, February 27th, one week afterwards.
Week one summary. (Beautiful)
In the waves we find a bottle. It is a request for help and a plead for answer. Today I shall try my best to find out what happened. I am not anything new, yet this bottle shall bring change to everything further know.
Spoilers
I just realized the sound in the beginning is an explosion
HOLY SHIT💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
This majestic and sad music..... It foreshadows a great adventure that the reader doesn’t even know about
i love umi.
Today is Oct.4th. The last day before the unavoidable fate falls upon the everyone on the Rokken island. May the death be gentle to everyone and sleep, my beloved witch, Beatrice.
Maria's jaw :'(
found it! only took 8 years
We will find out soon…
When something else cries.
0:35 to 1:10 was my favorite part.
I love how the URL spells cat!
Terminei o ep 1 hoje e essa música foi muito boa pro final, muitas perguntas, poucas respostas.
Enjoy the ride and try to avoid spoilers. I wish you an unforgettable experience with Umineko
man every time i watch an umineko video nowadays i always get ads for certa pro painters or however you spell it and its like “the power of certainty” and im like do they.. know their audience or is this just a big coincidence. lambda moment i guess
I only noticed this song in EP8...how odd.
devisterre Do you remember where in EP8 exactly?
Before Ange reads a certain book.
Junko?
this song remembers me Higurashi, I don't know why
prolly cuz its the sequel to higurashi
oh!
oh!
@@BakedBanana No
@@BakedBanana And stop that oh thing.
Beautiful music~
Damn the three times this played are burned into my soul
l see everybody writing about that moment with Kinzo when this played, but l cannot remember when it played(it has been like over 2 years since l read the entire VN after all)
The "credits" of EP1, when the text narrates the aftermath of the massacre and the discovering of the bodies and the investigation
0:52 fav part
Chills...
during the final score of EP1
This is played in the EP7 too :_:
VN only
The Day the Witch Revived
Is anyone mention that the sound at the beginning is spiritomb's cry from pokemon?
@MarioParty4evur This sentence had a GREAT impact to the readers unlike the anime.
The beginning sounds so much like one of the songs in pokemon mystery dungeon explorers of time/darkness/sky. Am i the only one that thinks this?
0:57 Xenoblade 2
When this song plays and kinzo finally realizes the identity of his long lost son lion (daughter by gender identity) it is beautiful and bittersweet it made me just bawl.
peak fiction
😭
0:12 SCHALA???
Is that when we discover more of Kyrie personality ? (DON'T PUSH THE BUTTON EVA !!)
When did this song appear too? XD
The end of episode one and episode 7 when beatrice meets kinzo in his study.
I don't remember, apart at the end of EP 7. Can someone help me ?
Lautael - Gaymer de la LAS - Groupe Phoenix Force générique de l'épisode un :D
MsMrPotatoes Ah bah forcément, c'est le seul avec le 8 que j'ai pas fini XD Mais cette musique, quoi. Pour moi le meilleur thème de tous les Umineko confondu !
Bah il a pas mal d'autres musiques géniales, mais celle là est vraiment cool.On avait fait un genre de vote et au final c'était Golden nocturne qui avait finit premier.
Je vois oe genre de vote, mais je trouve pas que Golden Nocturne soit si génial. Je veux dire, la scène est superbe mais .... Bah je sais pas, c'est pas ma préférée.
Lautael - Psychologue de la Ligue Anti-Spoil et d'ailleur Bring The fate était 9eme dans mes souvenirs.
Who composed this song?
Hironori Doi
Same here...no, probably not..given how umineko is super popular I would probably read it sooner or later....
Aghhhhhhh
Ohhhhhh, anime or vn?