Riverpod or Bloc? Which One is Better?

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  • čas přidán 20. 02. 2023
  • 📄You will see side by side comparison between two well-known state management solutions in the Flutter framework i-e Bloc & Riverpod. How they are different from each other and what to choose from them for your next project.
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Komentáře • 84

  • @RandalLSchwartz
    @RandalLSchwartz Před rokem +84

    I believe bloc is the right choice when you're working on a team of varying skill levels. It has one primary way of distributing events, and everything sorta circles around that. Riverpod offers far more flexibility... but with great power comes great responsibility, and some mastery is recommended. Riverpod can even be used in "bloc" mode with streams if you want... That said, I reach for riverpod for pretty much every project I'm influencing, whether it's a few classes, or a few hundred classes. Riverpod scales well.

  • @RandalLSchwartz
    @RandalLSchwartz Před rokem +28

    Riverpod *has* a StreamProvider. Most of riverpod has nothing to do with streams, and uses a far simpler but more flexible strategy of ProviderListenables. So the comment mid-video about them both using streams is already wrong. Some of the other things are also marginal.

  • @zdenekkrcal9066
    @zdenekkrcal9066 Před rokem +30

    Riverpod is excellent and easier to use now with riverpod annotations.

  • @moisesbinzie
    @moisesbinzie Před rokem +22

    Well explained. With that comparison, I finally understood a bit of Bloc. Coming from Provider, It was easy for me to transtion to Riverpod than Bloc

  • @conceptcoder
    @conceptcoder Před rokem +17

    It's like "Fireship taste" when see this video... 😎

  • @akshattamrakar9071
    @akshattamrakar9071 Před rokem +23

    Bloc is better as it extracts all the implementation in separate location. It's works great for teams

    • @sahilambure
      @sahilambure Před rokem +6

      It is good for beginner to advance app. But riverpod scales better than BLOc

    • @abrorbobomurodov2361
      @abrorbobomurodov2361 Před rokem +1

      ​@@sahilamburefor team work Bloc would be great choice

  • @noursalman932
    @noursalman932 Před rokem +8

    Coming from BLoC (Cubit) background, I actually learned to use Riverpod from this comparison, better than any Riverpod tutorial I came across. Many thanks!

  • @site.x9448
    @site.x9448 Před 4 měsíci

    Wow. Sir, what software do you use for such editing?

  • @Quicky121
    @Quicky121 Před rokem +15

    I tried Cubit, BLoC and (sadly) Redux and for me BLoC is the better. It has a clean way to write your business logic and all the Builder, Listener widgets keep your code clean. I read some comments that says that Riverpod scales up better and I'm curious to see if it's true. Maybe an hint for next video? :P
    Thanks for the video!

  • @sharbelokzan9673
    @sharbelokzan9673 Před 8 měsíci +2

    I’m experienced with bloc but was a bit confused with riverpod, this helped a lot! Thanks

  • @joshuanwokoye
    @joshuanwokoye Před rokem

    Very straight forward!

  • @sahilambure
    @sahilambure Před rokem +8

    Riverpod is better for big apps.

  • @h3w45
    @h3w45 Před 24 dny

    Thank you very well explained

  • @guycz
    @guycz Před rokem +8

    My opinion - Riverpod

  • @przemysawlusnia720
    @przemysawlusnia720 Před rokem +3

    Great comparison, thanks. I found a minor bug in 1:25 on the right example - "state.user == null" is copy-pasted from the left example, but there's no reference to state actually

  • @alphaNaj
    @alphaNaj Před rokem +1

    great content you are making, keep it up

  • @phillip_jacobs
    @phillip_jacobs Před rokem +5

    Looks like Riverpod is the winner in the comments. Riverpod it is then!

  • @fegartyx8271
    @fegartyx8271 Před 8 měsíci +1

    I'm still confused right now, like many job requirements want to use bloc than riverpod

  • @robbrooks5263
    @robbrooks5263 Před rokem +7

    Explain to me like I'm a 5 year-old why I need to adopt one of these in preference to plain old Provider.
    What am I missing?

    • @phillip_jacobs
      @phillip_jacobs Před rokem +1

      Probably just the size of your app.

    • @RandalLSchwartz
      @RandalLSchwartz Před rokem +8

      I've migrated three projects from Provider to Riverpod. Each time, the code get simpler, more robust, and more featureful, and easier to maintain.

  • @abasilis
    @abasilis Před 8 měsíci

    Hi, Excellent video, thanks. At the end you mentioned depends on the scale of the peoject, so, which one to use in a bigger project?

  • @davisburnside9609
    @davisburnside9609 Před 5 měsíci

    Why would I want bloc a river as no competing pods are crossing state crosspods?

  • @edigunawan1062
    @edigunawan1062 Před rokem +2

    i only use riverpod now since i found provider lack context control. i'll try bloc when i found lack of riverpod because people said bloc is great for complete separate business logic.

  • @jointtask4047
    @jointtask4047 Před rokem +15

    Bloc has a lot of boilerplate code involved, I wound prefer Riverpod

    • @justinprakashraj6256
      @justinprakashraj6256 Před rokem +3

      what is boilerplate ?

    • @baruchfavour9358
      @baruchfavour9358 Před rokem +1

      Much of code could be unnecessary sometimes

    • @justinprakashraj6256
      @justinprakashraj6256 Před rokem +1

      @@baruchfavour9358 thanks BFavour

    • @user-rh1sw6ji6t
      @user-rh1sw6ji6t Před rokem

      How about getx?

    • @Quicky121
      @Quicky121 Před rokem +2

      I don't know man, it has some boilerplate but for events and state you can use freezed library to solve this, resulting in less boilerplate and cleaner code. Give it a try!

  • @YS_Yousef
    @YS_Yousef Před 6 měsíci

    please make the soundeffects lower and get some better ones

  • @dolbysoundsofficial9323
    @dolbysoundsofficial9323 Před rokem +3

    Riverpod

  • @mohamedabdelrehem7698

    are you real
    this video the first of your videos pop to me and now i just watched mostly all of your videos♥♥♥♥

  • @justinprakashraj6256
    @justinprakashraj6256 Před rokem +2

    BLOC 🔹❤️

  • @erlangparasu6339
    @erlangparasu6339 Před 6 měsíci

    bloc because more recognize with all class contains prefix "Bloc" :)

  • @IncompleteTheory
    @IncompleteTheory Před rokem +2

    Provider FTW.

  • @rsajdok
    @rsajdok Před rokem +1

    riverpod has less boiler plate code

  • @kamil_supabase_enjoyer
    @kamil_supabase_enjoyer Před rokem +8

    From my expierience riverpod is more elastic. Bloc is good in simple apps

    • @NOBODYxx09
      @NOBODYxx09 Před rokem +8

      No, bloc is the choice for bigger apps believe me i have been there 😉

    • @bouyahyabilel2437
      @bouyahyabilel2437 Před 8 měsíci +1

      No , bloc is the great choice for bigger app , also when you work with team

  • @algeriennesaffaires7017
    @algeriennesaffaires7017 Před rokem +1

    Even i have been developing with flutter for 4 years, but i can't understand this video. The correct question is, what is the problem block or provider solve, and set State can't do it? Im using set State, and it's good enough

    • @flutterguys
      @flutterguys  Před rokem

      In big apps, you cannot use set state to manage the state, and you need to manage the structured state and avoid complexity.

    • @algeriennesaffaires7017
      @algeriennesaffaires7017 Před rokem +1

      @Flutter Guys thanks, i have a medium-sized app that took me 4 years now to maintain i ts little complicated, yes, but it's well controlled with just set State

    • @bhakinkhantarjeerawat8163
      @bhakinkhantarjeerawat8163 Před rokem +2

      @@algeriennesaffaires7017 Interesting! I really like when people can use simple methods to manage things, especially the old staff, and it still works well.

    • @sangamgiri1071
      @sangamgiri1071 Před rokem

      Yes I have used default setState in bigger projects too but at some point everything starts getting messy so Bloc is recommended

    • @teajay6545
      @teajay6545 Před rokem +2

      I can only imagine the pain and length you have to go through to make your apps conform to using setState only phew 😮‍💨 (I smell anti-pattern)

  • @federicopintaluba3039
    @federicopintaluba3039 Před rokem +3

    The main problem I see with Riverpod is that anyone, from anywhere, can read a notifier and change the state,

    • @flutterguys
      @flutterguys  Před rokem +2

      Riverpod document :
      Do not be frightened by the global aspect of providers. Providers are fully immutable. Declaring a provider is no different from declaring a function, and providers are testable and maintainable.

    • @federicopintaluba3039
      @federicopintaluba3039 Před rokem

      @@flutterguys Yeah, providers are immutable, but their states are mutable, and public.
      I'm not saying it's bad, it's just the problem I see.

    • @RandalLSchwartz
      @RandalLSchwartz Před rokem +4

      @@federicopintaluba3039 "but their states are mutable, and public.". No, they aren't. You must pass through a function to update the state of a Notifier (sync, Future or Stream). If you're calling that mutable or public, you need to look closer. Perhaps you're thinking of the legacy StateProvider, which was a stopgap introduced to get people at least one step away from globals. But that pattern while still supported, is no longer recommended. Instead, immutable state with defined updating methods is now the primary API.

    • @federicopintaluba3039
      @federicopintaluba3039 Před rokem +4

      @@RandalLSchwartz This is actually good news to me, because some months ago I could set the state from anywhere like: `ref.read(randomProvider.notifier).state = newState;`, so at that point, either state was mutable/public or not protected. It's good to see its immutable now. Thank you for letting me know about this.

    • @federicopintaluba3039
      @federicopintaluba3039 Před rokem

      Or, it's the legacy StateProvider as you said.

  • @dadlord689
    @dadlord689 Před měsícem

    Working for years with Unity and Unreal engines... this is frustrating. You can't over complicate messaging more.

  • @markosunbro2732
    @markosunbro2732 Před 28 dny

    Mobx )))

  • @bilal1708
    @bilal1708 Před 4 měsíci

    I prefer Provider 😅

  • @miranantamiangr
    @miranantamiangr Před 6 měsíci

    You have to change your voiceover ai to elevenlabs or something slower. It’s very bad and rushed now

  • @TheRealFFS
    @TheRealFFS Před 9 měsíci

    You want to go over this any faster pal?

  • @ai_mak354
    @ai_mak354 Před rokem

    GetX!!!))

  • @salmaindrianputri164
    @salmaindrianputri164 Před rokem

    But im with getx

  • @MarcelinoDavid111
    @MarcelinoDavid111 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Riverpod

  • @AbdulRahim-ok1vs
    @AbdulRahim-ok1vs Před rokem +1

    Riverpod