Choral Mattins in the Anglican Tradition
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- čas přidán 5. 09. 2024
- Choral Mattins in the Anglican tradition, from our 2019 Conference on the Anglican Tradition in the Catholic Church, held in Toronto this past November in thanksgiving for Anglicanorum Coetibus on its 10th anniversary
Absolutely gorgeous. We are so lucky to have you in the Catholic Church !
Really? It's simply bonkers.
@@kennethrobinson7793Why? Much of the so-called 'patrimony' is actually made up of things from the old Latin rite which Anglo-Catholics made their own in the English Missal, which is why the Ordinariate Mass has the Judica Me, Tridentine Offertory, Last Gospel, Roman Canon as only option on Sundays. There is also a partial restoration of the pre-Lenten season and Ember days. With the exception of the Eucharistic lectionary, much of the traditional Roman Mass propers are restored in the Ordinariate Mass, as Cranmer's Collects were mainly his (very beautiful) translations of those from the Roman Mass (a pity Cranmer's Eucharistic lectionary didn't make it, as it is just that of the TLM!). The Office lectionary is based on the Roman Breviary but with the Anglican principle of reading the various biblical books in full (rather than the very brief excerpts in the Roman Matins). Those are all significant bits of the Latin liturgical patrimony which were thrown out of the Paul VI reforms and are restored in the Ordinariate.
The presider is Fr. Lee Kenyon the first ordained in Canada (along with Fr. John Wright) for Roman Catholic ministry under Anglicanorum Cortibus. A Brit married to an American living on Vancouver Island who started Roman Catholic ministry here in Calgary. He is a blessing, though in my rebellious Protestant days I would have told he was Hellbound. I’m ashamed of my old feelings towards him, Fr. Wright, and Fr. Gibson.
Fr Kenyon and his family have indeed been a blessing, as have so many similar clergy throughout the ordinariates. We were glad to have him celebrate and officiate for us at our 2019 conference!
Greetings from the small but growing Ordinariate Community of St. Cuthbert of Lindisfarne in Indianapolis, Indiana, USA!
It's nice to know that there are people singing the Vaughan Williams tune to "At the Name of Jesus". It's a fine but neglected tune. The bouncy tune many sing in the UK is too lighthearted for my liking.
Our video of Choral Mattins is now fully subtitled!
Good to hear (and see) the Benedictus. Glorious
Only during Holy Week you find morning services of this calibre in Roman-rite churches (Tenebrae = Matins + Lauds). Wonderful prayers, music, readings. Many thanks!
I've never actually gotten to witness choral matins, due to it being so rare. Morning prayer, if a church even offers it these days, is usually all spoken, or with only a few moments of simple chanting.
I don't know where you are, but it is the norm in most English cathedrals on Sunday mornings. Has been for centuries. 😊
Great Litany
What was the hymn sung at the beginning before the Matins began?
That was the tail end of Stanford's Jubilate in B flat
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The quality of this film is excellent. Include captions.
Also, I could not find this channel when I searched "Anglican Use".
Thank you! We try to make sure the relevant tags are in each video, but will perhaps have to try to ensure the channel has them in general.
Foster, we have now added captions as you suggested.
@@AnglicanorumCoetibusSociety it looks great
lucky this is from 2019 with the violent coughing heard at the start
I think that should look like every Mass in ordinary form of roman rite
It seems that all the different rites of the Roman Catholic church have rights, except for those who want the old Latin rite, treated like lepers
Persevere
The persecution of the old rite is a disgrace, however, the Ordinariate represents a move in the right direction, as much of the so-called 'patrimony' is actually made up of things from the old Latin rite which Anglo-Catholics made their own in the English Missal, which is why the Ordinariate Mass has the Judica Me, Tridentine Offertory, Last Gospel, Roman Canon as only option on Sundays. There is also a partial restoration of the pre-Lenten season and Ember days. With the exception of the Eucharistic lectionary, much of the traditional Roman Mass propers are restored in the Ordinariate Mass, as Cranmer's Collects were mainly his (very beautiful) translations of the Roman Mass Collects (pity Cranmer's Eucharistic lectionary wasn't used, as it is basically the same as the TLM). The Office lectionary is derived from the Roman Breviary but observing the Anglican principle of reading the various biblical books in full (rather than the very brief excerpts in the Roman Matins). Those are all significant bits of the Latin liturgical patrimony which were thrown out with the Paul VI reforms and are restored in the Ordinariate.
Very nice. Does the choir not normally wear vestments?
This was an ad hoc occasion, so vestments weren't an option in this instance. Perhaps at a future conference the choir will vest in cassock and surplice though.
@@AnglicanorumCoetibusSociety Thanks for clarifying. I really enjoyed the service.
@@AnglicanorumCoetibusSociety Why would the choir wear vestments if they are in the gallery??
@@johnmckillop3820 We wouldn't. That was in reference to the High Mass we did the night before, which we sang from the front of the church.
Well that was interesting! I'm Anglican, and a musician, and I have never seen Matins with 2 ts!
You should all be commended for your impressive musical efforts. However, the Psalms were sung too fast and too loud. Some distinction between singing forces--Cantoris/Decani would have been nice and the organ could have been far more subtle. The Psalms are old but Anglican Chant is Victorian romantic and must be treated as such. Remember that the accompaniment, in a cathedral or Oxbridge chapel, would be played by a young and overly enthusiastic organ scholar who wants desperately to impress his boss with his developing Anglican chant accompaniment style. A descant on a warbling little flute would have been nice and not once did I hear Full Swell, Box closed and 32' flue rumbling on the bottom! By the way, with multiple Psalms (Plainsong or Anglican Chant) Gloria Patri is only sung at the end of the final Psalm (unless you're King's College and make everyone stand for the whole ordeal!) otherwise the poor congregation would be bobbing up and down!
Now, Ladies and Gentlemen, you have been very naughty! Te Deum by Vaughan Williams and Benedictus by Stanford may be impressive but it is just NOT done! Anglican composers wrote "Music for the Office of Holy Communion, and Morning Service, and Evening Service" for a reason and they should always be sung as a whole. One does not mix "apples and oranges!" Te Deum and Benedictus, Stanford in C would have been nice. However Te Deum and Benedictus Stanford in Bb would have been even better! If you ever do Evensong in the future now sing it correctly!
Thanks for the Willan anthem. I'm now 71 and it took until the harmonised Plainsong in the middle for me to think, "I know that" and to remember I sang the thing in the Gardens in 1963!
Congratulations on a job well done!
Stanford in Bflat
Not quite what most English cathedral Mattins would be like. (Incense? Goos heavens!) And certainly not the tune we would usually sing to At the Name of Jesus, but nicely done nonetheless!
I don't recall reading the word mattins in the BCP.
Lessons & Carols is not in the BCP either but has become a cherished part of Anglican tradition. Similarly, Anglicans colloquially refer to Morning Prayer as mattins, and so in the ordinariates we continue to do the same.