Campus protests over Gaza: Now what? | GZERO World with Ian Bremmer
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- Eboo Patel, founder of @InterfaithAmerica, discusses the challenge of violent protests on college campuses and advocates cooperation over confrontation, emphasizing the importance of civil discourse and highlighting successful examples of debate without chaos or violence.
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Content
0:00 - Intro
1:05 - Monologue: Ian Explains
4:22 - Interview with Eboo Patel
5:38 - Patel's advice for college presidents
6:42 - Why are the college protests happening?
8:35 - College campus: Confrontation vs. Cooperation
10:09 - The role of Palestinian students
12:44 - Fostering "effective protest"
Something is happening here-on college campuses, that is. But what do we make of protests that turn violent, like what we saw at UCLA or even some of the Columbia conflicts? In a wide-ranging interview with Ian Bremmer on GZERO World, Eboo Patel, founder of the nonprofit Interfaith America, talks about his work on hundreds of college campuses to find common ground. His core message is simple: "Cooperation is better than division."
Patel advocates for a shift in focus from confrontation to cooperation on campuses, suggesting that universities should foster environments of civil discourse. He proposes initiatives like teach-ins and dialogues to explore constructive solutions to complex issues. "I think the problem here, the thing that universities could control, which I think that they have gotten wrong in many cases over the course of the past five years, is the default mode has been set to confrontation, not cooperation."
It's true that finding common ground can be easier said than done when tensions are high. But as Patel points out, the majority of college campuses have been able to debate the Israel-Gaza war without the kind of chaos or violence we've seen on certain campuses. "The media, for good reasons, covers planes that crash and not planes that land," Patel explains.
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In many ways, what Mr. Patel was commenting on highlights how so many young people (as well as many adults) have not learned or use communication skills that help foster understanding and cooperation. His comments about fair game is spot on.
1968 comparisons are a false equivalency. Hundreds of thousands of American soldiers were on the ground in Vietnam at the time and it was the first issue for a plurality of American voters if not a straight up majority of them. Nowadays Israel/Palestine is consistently polling as one of the lowest priority issues for voters down there with students loans and current COVID-19 policies, and no American soldiers are fighting in it.
Obviously those polls don’t reflect the sentiments of the students. The common theme in the protests are clear to average people.
Sure. Let's just forget about principles, values and human rights and the fact that hospitals are being bombed and children starved with tacit US approval.
It doesn't poll well? Why the hell do you think Biden is tanking?
Agreed. However one comparison with 1968 is valid I think, and that is that demonstrations in the street lead to conservative victories at the next election. The majority of Americans despised (and still despise) those who take to the streets, which is profoundly undemocratic and un-American, since in our democracy things are decided at the polls and not on the streets, which is mob rule. People hate it. So in 68 the response to the demonstrations was a resounding victory for Nixon. Two of them, actually 68 and 72, when he won 49 states. He even won California, twice, because of it. The demonstrations of the 60s resulted in the Repubs winning 5 of the 6 presidential elections between 68 and 88.
But which tax payer is paying for the bombs.
Patel's heart is in the right place and he has some good ideas. In order to allow open minded conversations in tough subjects, the extreme rhetorics and actions must be ruled out, or such conversations will inevitably be drowned out by loud noises. If the universities can even deal with occupations against their own rules and the law, how can we expect their "negotiation experts" to help save the world?
This guy sounds like a generic guidance counselor. I broadly agree with all of the BS he just espoused.😅🤔
Lmao exactly!! What has he actually said? When asked by Ian “Why now?”, he didnt answer that question at all
He at least isn't saying anything bad, but it's just a series of hollow platitudes
Right? Mr. Mackey tries to solve world conflict.
I wonder where in all of this the idea placed in kindergarten of " Do unto others as you would have them do unto you." got lost in teaching and why? Also I guess these protest leaders do not follow in the foot steps of Gandhi let alone the all more American Dr. Martin Luther King practice of Peaceful Protesting. I guess this is because of Social Media and or a continuation of what they think protests are as BLM and that era wasn't able to be mindful. As in some cases it might have been taken over by bad actors and or co-opted to do what another group wanted to do. Smells the same. Social media sucks
This is one of the best interviews I've heard in a long time. Love the ideas that are going back and forth and the attitude of reasonable cooperation. Thank you so much for doing this kind of reporting. The world needs it
12:00 the majority of israelis want the hostages back. even if they are all dead by now. your statement was at very least simplistic.
the teach-in idea is good.
Maybe instead of comparing today’s student protest with the Vietnam war protesters of the sixties, it’s a movement more similar to the protests against apartheid in South Africa during the 80’s. The protests in the 80’s were successful in ending apartheid in South Africa.
But the issue is Israel is facing jihadist entities like Hamas Hezbollah and Iran that would use the end of Israel’s military occupation to set up a jihadist networks in Gaza and the West Bank to destroy Israel
Israel ending its occupation is a existential threat to its existence
same thing …
Nope. There is no apartheid in Israel. West Bank is not a part of Israel and is administered by the Palestinian Authority. Unfortunately strict military measures are necessary on the part of Israel to ensure its security. Jordan and Egypt also ensure strict border control. The issue of possible crimes by IDF military in either Gaza and WB needs to be considered as well as the Palestinian militants’ possible crimes. But apartheid no. Otherwise how do Israeli Arabs, 2 million live with full enfranchisement in Israel proper.
Apartheid was an internal issue in South Arica, Peace is a two way street. Protesting Israel wont make it any more likely that Palestinians will agree to negotiations.
People are calling for the destruction of the state of Israel. That is not what was called for in South Africa. The difference tells you everything you need to know about these useful idiots who hate Jews, not “Zionists.”
great stuff
The protests have been peaceful and on message, they need to keep up the protests throughout the summer and election
Breaking into and vandalizing buildings, assaulting counter protesters and throwing things (assaulting) officers is not peaceful. Neither are the slurs they use when we are to believe that such slurs against Black people are violent. Stop being a hypocrite.
It is not only Gaza issue, rather the American economy issue, like 1989 demonstration in Beijing.
Really enjoy how Mr Patel and Mr Bremmer discuss ways to lower the temperature of this incredibly fraught debate by using the language and ideas that can potentially appeal to both sides.
Must you start with polls?
At the end of the day, it's the Poles vs the Holes. 😊
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The kids are alright and, as usual, are ahead of the curve on this issue.
LOL, most of these 'kids' couldn't even find Gaza on a map, much less are familiar with the history of the Muslim Brotherhood.
@@bsmithhammer Nonsense!
I watched this last night on PBS (rerun?). I found it obnoxious and deeply flawed. Like the commenter below, I also found false equivalency, but not of Gaza protesters current and past. The false equivalency on this show is between university genocide protesters and supposed masses of Jewish students who feel uncomfortable, threatened, and victims of "antisemitism." This qualifies as a trope, a meme, and a misrepresentation. You might have asked the question of how real the accusations of antisemitism are. I suspect this is a diversionary tactic generated by AIPAC. It is too pat, and a sizable number of the protesters are Jewish.
The other problem I found with this show is that it tries to abstract the reason for the protests into an intellectual exercise that can only be properly discussed by argument and counterargument in furtherance of the purposes of higher education. There is mass murder and destruction taking place in Gaza, sponsored by the U.S. Treasury, the president and the State Department. Discussing genocide politely with Marquess of Queensberry rules to me seems obscene, a vulgarity that is the privilege of a society that has lost its soul. We will pay a very dear price for sponsoring genocide, something the polls of which we are so addicted have no value or meaning.
I likely won't watch this show again. I see one of the past "experts" interviewed was Thomas Friedman, who refers to people in the Mideast as parasitoid wasps and caterpillars. I long have realized that I shouldn't waste my time on TV, and instead should read more, be in nature, do more Tai Chi, Yoga and meditate. Thanks for inspiring me, or more accurately disinspiring me.
If AIPAC was an association of Indian Americans funneling US aid dollars into a political machine to pursue both parties to give the Indian government more aid on behalf of the Indian government, Americans would be up in arms
Cooperation is one thing. Humanity awakening to its moral responsibility to rage against genocide anywhere, anytime is a part of real, dynamic cooperation. "Cooperation" without moral outrage is all fluff and little stuff. Let's cooperate across all sectors, ethnicities and barriers to stop the human stupidity that sees others as lessor and legitimate targets of destruction. Humanity wise up and grow some balls now and forever.
You want to help take over campuses? What an idiotic statement 😢
Campus is a most sensitive mirror reflecting the whole society.
No. It represents youth first finding out things about the world who still have a mistaken belief and understanding of “fairness” “equality” and how the world really works. They have zero real world experience and then get taught from at best left leaning teachers to full left teachers (studies have proven this beyond just right wing claims). Don’t believe that the most vocal are a representation of the majority. They rarely are these days.
No, it does not reflect the whole of society at all.
Mearsheimer was right.
US need to reconsider relationship with Israel.
As a rule of thumbs if Mearsheimer says it its wrong. he's wrong about Ukraine, he's wrong about Great power politics and dear god he's absolutely wrong about his incredibly anti-sematic hyper-powerful "Israel lobby"
American civilization?😅😅
GZERo or JZERO? He sounds like he owns America
A ceasefire is not the same as peaceful coexistence. The Palestinians have never protested for peaceful coexistence. If they did the conflict would end immediately.
Biden or any other us prez would go against their masters? I don't think so!😂😂
Thinking Israel or Jews or Zionists control America is not only antisemitic it fails to recognize that Qatar and China donate to colleges and control our education system
Go to Gaza and show your support
Never covering Israel's brutal occupation, any reason???
Never covering Hamas brutal ideology and fear that ending an occupation would result in a jihadist state dedicated to murdering Jews and destroying Israel leading to the death and destruction of more people on both sides ??
Bc it’s their country and not an occupation? What the Palestinians are doing is like if the Mexicans in California rose up and said they wanted to go back to being a part of Mexico. They have never had a country and when they were given the chance they said no and chose violence.
US is a client state of israel
Israel stopped occupying Gaza over a decade ago. The result of that was Hamas.
@@bsmithhammer Israel controlled Gaza from outside, land, air & sea. Israel never allowed to construct any port or airport. Whatever goes in or comes out, everything is monitored by Israel, pretty much like a prison.
Talking is of course not always better than fighting. That is something diplomatic types want people to believe. There are plenty of examples where continuing to fight is better than coming to an agreement.
It's just fashion, as it was in Paris in 1968. "Hey, let's go wild and take a strong stand on some trendy cause that we have zero understanding of." They'll soon go back to their TikTok, Instagram, piercings, funny eyeglasses and haircuts, their hormone treatments, anti-depressants, anxiety obsessions, huge false eyelashes and all the rest.
Total flake