What is the focus after Mrs. Ramsay's death...? Well there seems to be two...a)the journey to the lighthouse, and b)Lily finishing her painting Both are accomplished but the author leaves it to the reader - which is more important? One can say perhaps it is the accomplishment of the author that she realized both visions - she got her characters to their destination while making a close to perfect work of art, describing along the way her excruciating process, which is mirrored by the on-and-off again boatride to another shore. WHAT is truly amazing is that, if you think about it, how far of a journey was it really, in REAL TIME? Woolf makes it seem impossible, but is that really just a metaphor for grief, for dealing with emotions, for the length of an artistic process? There are so many layers to this novel, it simply does not end...it is meant to go on and on and on in a reader's mind, and, as Harold Bloom, this makes it a truly Shakespearean work, in that it is endless to contemplation...
I know who Price is, but he seems so much more intent on talking about himself than anything any other writer ever wrote, but it makes sense since he died a few months later
Freud gained many of his ideas FROM LITERATURE....therefore Joyce and Woolf and especially Proust might very well have taken cue from ideas that were in the air without ever having read Freud, especially...there is SCANT evidence that any of them had read Freud during the production of their greatest works...it is MORE LIKELY they were incredibly erudite individuals who made use of the Classics in much the same way...after all, Freud is NOT a scientist, he is a writer a la Montaigne...a great commentator on the human mind and upon history...a novelist is but a branch of the same vein
Mr Ramsay doesn't have an inner life in the novel because he himself IS the lighthouse, only a figure, a metaphor, a posited destination which Lily struggles with and finally deals with by completing her painting...
If I may, according to my interpretation it was Mrs ramsay who is the true lighthouse. She is the mystery throughout the novel. Understanding her is the metaphorical purpose of the novel kept visual by the voyage to the lighthouse.
Mrs Ramsay TRIES with the dinner party, BUT does she succeed according to herself? Where is the great essay (and there should CERTAINLY be one) that dwells upon the SUCCESSES of Woolf's heroines as they see them? Of course the core text would be Mrs Dalloway, but there is so much else to say
What is the focus after Mrs. Ramsay's death...? Well there seems to be two...a)the journey to the lighthouse, and b)Lily finishing her painting Both are accomplished but the author leaves it to the reader - which is more important? One can say perhaps it is the accomplishment of the author that she realized both visions - she got her characters to their destination while making a close to perfect work of art, describing along the way her excruciating process, which is mirrored by the on-and-off again boatride to another shore. WHAT is truly amazing is that, if you think about it, how far of a journey was it really, in REAL TIME? Woolf makes it seem impossible, but is that really just a metaphor for grief, for dealing with emotions, for the length of an artistic process? There are so many layers to this novel, it simply does not end...it is meant to go on and on and on in a reader's mind, and, as Harold Bloom, this makes it a truly Shakespearean work, in that it is endless to contemplation...
thanke you so much for this video
For me, this didn't prove many "new" thoughts as such about To The Lighthouse....but it was still a very interesting discussion.
Kiitos
I know who Price is, but he seems so much more intent on talking about himself than anything any other writer ever wrote, but it makes sense since he died a few months later
Freud gained many of his ideas FROM LITERATURE....therefore Joyce and Woolf and especially Proust might very well have taken cue from ideas that were in the air without ever having read Freud, especially...there is SCANT evidence that any of them had read Freud during the production of their greatest works...it is MORE LIKELY they were incredibly erudite individuals who made use of the Classics in much the same way...after all, Freud is NOT a scientist, he is a writer a la Montaigne...a great commentator on the human mind and upon history...a novelist is but a branch of the same vein
Mr Ramsay doesn't have an inner life in the novel because he himself IS the lighthouse, only a figure, a metaphor, a posited destination which Lily struggles with and finally deals with by completing her painting...
If I may, according to my interpretation it was Mrs ramsay who is the true lighthouse. She is the mystery throughout the novel. Understanding her is the metaphorical purpose of the novel kept visual by the voyage to the lighthouse.
Mrs Ramsay TRIES with the dinner party, BUT does she succeed according to herself? Where is the great essay (and there should CERTAINLY be one) that dwells upon the SUCCESSES of Woolf's heroines as they see them? Of course the core text would be Mrs Dalloway, but there is so much else to say
To me, a voice can reach a level of hoarseness at which it becomes unlistenable. This guy exceeds that level vastly.
KeyboardKramer Thanks for the heads up.