as a repulblican from the 26 counties..i have a lot of time for martin mcguiness but o' 'bradaigh/o' connell were bang on the money with foreseeing a military withdrawl from the provos... looks like the 'old turks' saw it coming....
Anyone with a basic understanding of Irish history would have saw it coming. People enter Leinster House with sincere intentions and eventually become embedded to the status quo. It has happened time and time again.
What has Sinn fein got out of The good Friday agreement....apart from making cash Bobby Sands died for nothing as Adams and McGuiness drink tea with the Queen
Ruairí Ó Brádaigh told us all what would happen at that 1986 Ard Fheis... "You'll have to go by their rules and they can stand up and gang up on you and put you outside on the street and keep you outside on the street." That's exactly what Fine Gael and Fianna Fáil are doing to the Sinn Féiners right now.
@@paddynolan7036 The majority wanted peace when Adams and McGuinness were preaching war. Therefore they were knuckle-draggers with blood on their knuckles...
Martin contradicted everything he said here. Ruairi was bang on with his assessment of where things were going to go. Not saying either one was wrong in the long term but on the basis of how things would go and the fact that the armed campaign would be run down and eventually become an embarrassment, Ruairi was 100% accurate. There's no doubt about it and listening to Martin here only reinforces that.
The British were the first to know the demographic shift was going to unite Ireland - they convinced the Sinn Fein leadership to accept transitional power - seems like a smart move by both sides - in 1986 SF had 4% of power in Republic Ireland , it's 25% today , and biggest party in the North - that's some shift from 86.
Not in your life time ! Or mine ! It's the people who fought and died I feel sorry for including the ones who were killed by ( stake knife 🔪 ) for being so call touts ! And the 8 lads who were set up and gun down in a trap set for them with No way out !
I wonder how they'd have reacted if he said " I'll lead you to the republic .... when I'm sharing power with Ian paisley as deputy first minister of NI!
Chuckle brothers its funny Addams wasn't as up front an getting knighted 4 his role in this traitorous act and a repet of Collins an De dev mean while British still running Dublin trugh London/Belfast simply put they sold Ireland 2 the eu and now wer ruled by many unelected creatures with no back grounds in there statements there want 4 wars the mass migration the infiltration off so many countrys cultures education
Aidan M Followed Eire Nua? Thats what Ruairi would have put on the table ffs even the most normal right thinking unionist barely just swallowed the GFA! Eire Nua was a no goer with sectarian bigots who are allowed to play the so called famine song while ordinary decent folks are praying inside a chapel and the peelers just stand and watch. Eire Nua was definitely too green for Orange men who's thinking is not unlike ISIL.
Lies from his very first word to his last. The only people J118 spoke the truth to were his MI5 handlers. Two men stood on that platform, only one was a man of integrity.
After reading Ricky o rawes latest book about stakeknife, I am convinced McGuinness was working for the enemy f egg on the start. His men in Derry knew it all along. He was a fucking tout !!!
J118 reading Adams's words. Two of the greatest assets england ever had. Shame Shame Shame But there are hearts and hands in Ireland yet that will free old Ireland still
He was definitely talking to mi6 , but what's not clear is what capacity was he talking to them ! Did he have the go ahead to talk to them from the others ! If so ever single word should have been taken down that was said between them ! Because you can be sure the British have ever single word of what was said and they didn't turn up with out asking the British state first .
How can anyone watch this and still justify such blatant hypocrisy from people like McGuinness and SF when it's clear they have betrayed their own cause in the worst way possible?
So sad for all the volunteers who died fighting against what he settled for, so sad for all the men an women killed, called traitors an then the people who killed them go back on all what was fought for. Some insight , all the voilence to actually accept the british money , and be part of british rule in Ireland, if only they accepted the sunindale agreement instead of killing so many for nothing but what was offered in 1972 ?
although im not from Ireland ive a feeling much of that is a protest vote at the incompetence of other parties and the austerity measures..Shame us Brits dont have a protest party getting 25% of the vote,we wouldnt be ruled by wankers then.
I wonder if McGuinness would have got such a rousing standing ovation if his audience knew that only 12 yrs later he and his Sinn Fein \IRA party would through the GFA , sign up to the principle of consent , recognising partition and the legitimacy of the 6 counties . All for a seat at a Power Sharing executive , that was always available since 1973 at Sunningdale . Republics are obsessed with the fact that they caused damage to the British establishment through their ‘armed struggle’ but the bottom line is that the IRA failed miserably in their campaign to remove British rule in Ireland . It was never ever on the negotiating table , in the end Republicans have accepted the only way to achieve a sovereign Ireland is through peaceful democratic means . John Hume told them this every day since 1969 , it unfortunately took 30 yrs for Republicans to understand that fact. Giving the Brits a hard time was never enough , once the Brits broke the back of the IRA through by riddling the organisation with informers it was always over bar the shouting . We are no better off today that we would have been by keeping with the peaceful,political process . 3500 lives lost during this so called ‘armed struggle ‘ was a total waste of lives ., time and the damage done to the economy .
I saw a video of Branden Hughes talking about how the Belfast Brigade was stock full of informants and agents... like every other man... but, why did Sinn Fein sign the deal? its it all about the money like everything is? they saw more power and money for themselves? like what is the complaint of the people opposed to the GFA? in down and dirty street terms...
The answer is, nope but the audience should have known the direction of travel by 86 if not the timing which I doubt Adams & Co knew themselves at this point in time, being willing to go step by step as conditions allowed which is largely what happened from 86 onwards. Admittedly it wasn't until the mid 90's that it became obvious for all to see. I must say it always baffles me that so many people from within the movement say they were unaware of the likely outcome by the time of the 1st ceasefire in 94, aftercall the deal on offer was plain to see in the shape of the Downing Street Declaration, no United Ireland in that document in the short-medium term.
You brits have short memories ! The PIRA just missed taking out the British cabinet on two occasions ! Brighton and nub10 downing Street ! Also the British army lost more personal in ulster Ireland than Afghanistan or Iraq wars ! The head of the British army in ulster Ireland said that the war against the PIRA couldn't achieved anything in the long term or short term !
Glad to see you have refrained from over zealous use of the eroteme. But albeit only slightly. Various videos were infested by DonegalRaymie peddling his filth on several fronts.
Yes i assumed you were a loyalist, maybe that is still the case? Any forwarding on my question/s? Go easy on the keyboard now? An when you're at it why do u have comments banned and ratings removed from your vids, afraid of something?
I didnt say it was, you comment should PROVE why he is, it does NOT??? Whom do you support, or are you another of these armchair revolutionaries, that support 'the war'??? Where is it?? lol!
as an English man mcguiness is a total hero of mine has he sold it out no he hasn't he got the sinn feins voice in the houses of parliament that's all they ever wanted for Ireland to be represented by irish people I wish English people would take his fight and apply it to the united kingdom todaya total soldier up there with che Guevara and Yasser arrafat
the whole point of the ira was to create a united Ireland. and now gerry and Martin are pretending it's about equality within a British state. our position is clear and it will never ever ever change lol. yeah right pull the other one Martin
being an Englishman (living in England?) you were potentially a victim of an IRA atrocity - something worth bearing in mind as you wipe your saliva off his bell-end.
PS, I don't agree with the Brit side either, was a loss on both sides but this guy was a murder allowed to go into politics and thats really not cool. A fight that has now dissolved into gand warfare. Taxis, drugs blah
Lol ! Mi6 asked to speak to him about stopping the conflict and he got the go ahead to talk to them ! Mi6 informed him that the British state wanted out of ireland but couldn't walk away with out a morjorty in ulster voting for a utd ireland and asked him relay that massage ! 💯🇮🇪👌
nothing but a "tout" as i believe informers are known in Northern Ireland.I have zilch support for the IRAs methods but fancy their leader informing on them.Dont worry Mcguinness you and Adams have been found out now,just in it for the money
Adams and McGuinness were very very shrewd operators, you dont fight war for wars sake, with no possibility of attaining the objective, no wise thinking 'general' would commit to that. British brass assessed that the IRA could never be defeated and vice versa, so he was correct in his assessments? Sinn Fein biggest party on the island now and the North, First Minister, its just a matter of time.
Ruairi O was a purest, but not a realist. I liked him and his drive for a pure republican position. The IRA and Sinn Fein by 1986 was infiltrated by spies and the people were getting tired. When you have to admit that you cannot defeat the Brits by military means, you have a duty to talk. The Brits also knew that they could not defeat the IRA and told Martin and Gerry that they were not married to holding onto the 6 counties. That left room for negotiations. The Officials became the small ineffective Workers Party, so they entered constitutional politics anyway. Sinn Fein now may head both the Republic and the 6 counties. They gave up on radicalism for control of gov't. That does not feel good but it is prgmatic. Winning by military means might also have produced control over gov't ,either way you have to appeal to enough Irish men and women to make it work and the Provos did not have that kind of support. Gerry Adams and Martin McGuinness both knew that from the inside out.
It was because he was going to be charged with murders, or shame and disgust about the results of the Remembrance Day bombings during his watch. Pressure on any persons mind.
@daveyork0 ! If that's the case then all them bombs dropped on familys in Afghanistan and Iraq from 20 thousands feet and wiped them all out should be ashamed of themselves ! But I can tell you straight out they are not as they were just doing their job and what they were told to do !
I once made a tweet to Martin McGuinness about a place that I think is sacred the graveyard of Yates in County Sligo with a beautiful backdrop of the mountains and he favoured my tweet. I will give McGuinness for that.
I'm Irish American.... even I can see how clearly he lied. is Ireland free and united ? ....no. so your "constitutional" method you denied here...still has not worked. what a traitor to his own cause.
Buried on the island of Ireland … when you think about it… must be embarrassing to know you haven’t your own country and had to take a part of someone else’s, then call yourself British and the funniest bit of all … a Britain who doesn’t even want you …😂😂😂😂. proud to be Irish ..☘️
Go easy on the Question mark button or you will lose it with your incessant thumping on your keyboard. Your comment about loyalists protesting was completely and utterly irrelevant. Why did you post such a reply in the first instance?
As Martin said and it no doubt applies to some of the the armchair generals on here “where were they when there was a war”. RSF and the Eire Nua policy has made no inroads in 34 years since 1986. SF have delivered an international binding agreement for British withdrawal in time with consent. It’s not perfect but the electoral strength of SF has made a United Ireland a reality rather than an aspiration. It’s easy for people to criticise McGuinness but I suppose Mandela was/is criticised too. How many British soldiers have been killed since 1986 by CIRA. I rest my case...
Clown, Britain is the only country I know who invades other countries bombs their homes, etc shoots and kills innocent victims in peaceful protests in their backs whilst trying to flee the terrifying genocide, they think their killings over in countries like Syria Afghan, etc are justified when they have no right to be there in the first place, you support this so-called justified killings of innocent civilians but you insist when these people fight back that THEY are the terrorists, LMFAO? Honestly, you are so screwed up in the head it's laughable then you think you can win a debate on the amount of professionally trained soldiers that were killed by normal freedom fighters fighting for their countries freedom from imperialism, this was a war between Irish civilians fighting for their own country and English invaders, Your army are terrorists just as much as the IRA were, except they are worst they are doing it in other countries too not just Ireland, bet your real proud to be a Brit :)
"Where were they when there was a war" could apply to most of his own party. Where was Mary Lou etc? Mcguinness achieved nothing that wasn't already on offer. The border poll was already a thing last held in 1973. Éire Nua remains the only serious framework how unionists could be absorbed into an independent Ireland. McGuinness' party have yet to draw up any blueprint how Ireland would be governed. They are too busy running British rule and fawning over British royals
That's disrespectful to the lads who were involved on both sides of the British border ! The lads in ulster had the financial backing and man power to move in and out as they wanted ! Most of the lads would have been more than happy to draw the British state back into the south of ireland 🇮🇪 to finish what they started .
Says a fella with a UFF avatar. I've no time for McGuinness but it shows you either don't know what the UFF is/was or are entirely stupid and don't recognise your own hypocrisy.
he done much more 4r the 6 counties n the north 4r republicans than most keyboard warriors on this history will judge him personally a think he has brought us closer to a united Ireland n gave catholics a voice ...an prolacht Abu. .tal32
The problem is that everything that he says from 3:00 is correct. He just has to remove "twenty" from the "twenty-six counties" bit and he's completely right. Republican struggle, sacrifice and rhetoric failed to get anywhere in the north, leaving them alone and isolated and easily dealt with. It's a shame that it took the best part of a decade and 700 more deaths before he and his colleagues took his comments to their logical conclusion and tried a different and more successful road.
Kind of embarrassing though isn’t it .. a part of Ireland to remain British … so proud to call my own country home and not have had to hikack someone else’s … 😂
Our Martin of the Republican provisional Movement the best man ever to wear shoe leather He is the greatest Statesman and Freedom Fighter of all times. We are proud to have Soldiered with Martin And Gerry . Martin the Greatest Leader Ever
Just replying to Arty m, do you honestly think that all IRA weapons were decommissioned and destroyed?? You have absolutely no understanding of politics either in life or in an armed struggle, politics is a way of life, democracy is a way of life, Martin mcGuinness in 1986 made an intelligent decision to allow a vote in relation to abstentionism thus opening new avenues of trust and support for the republican struggle in Northern Ireland, listening to yourself you seem as if you want to go on fighting forever, there's no way that a deep rooted unionist system going back hundreds of years would simply allow armed struggle to remove, it had to go hand in hand with politics, thus seen with the resignation of Martin shortly before his death, and the increase in republican representatives in the new assembly, unfortunately Rory decided to hardline and although I have the upmost respect for him he hasn't left very much of a positive legacy, it's a real pity and to hear him in his latter years slagging Adams and McGuinness is very sad. Attention had to go one way or another, as Martin said.. We are not at war with the Irish free state. RIP Comrade McGuinness.
( we are not at war with the free state ) REMEMBER them words when SF gets into government and continues on with massive uncontrolled illgel immigration into Ireland 🇮🇪 ! You will be at war !
How right was Ruairi
Once you enter Leinster House you are no longer a republican, God bless Ruairí
Hilarious, all that Marty said wouldn't happen, has happened! The old guard knew it all the long.
as a repulblican from the 26 counties..i have a lot of time for martin mcguiness but o' 'bradaigh/o' connell were bang on the money with foreseeing a military withdrawl from the provos... looks like the 'old turks' saw it coming....
Anyone with a basic understanding of Irish history would have saw it coming. People enter Leinster House with sincere intentions and eventually become embedded to the status quo. It has happened time and time again.
What has Sinn fein got out of The good Friday agreement....apart from making cash Bobby Sands died for nothing as Adams and McGuiness drink tea with the Queen
Ruairí Ó Brádaigh told us all what would happen at that 1986 Ard Fheis...
"You'll have to go by their rules and they can stand up and gang up on you and put you outside on the street and keep you outside on the street."
That's exactly what Fine Gael and Fianna Fáil are doing to the Sinn Féiners right now.
Every war ends. They fight until the oppressors change and then peace can come.
@@johnahh5130 The problem is that the oppressors haven't changed and Sinn Fein have become everything the IRA fought against...
Exactly right, Time only proved Ruairí was correct.
The majority want peace except for the knuckle draggers
@@paddynolan7036 The majority wanted peace when Adams and McGuinness were preaching war. Therefore they were knuckle-draggers with blood on their knuckles...
Ruari O'Bradaigh was right in 86
What did he say!
And thank God he was. Adams and McGuinness saved thousands of lives
@@irishcountryman4866 here's his speech czcams.com/video/QjXVJoUMVVc/video.html
Martin contradicted everything he said here. Ruairi was bang on with his assessment of where things were going to go.
Not saying either one was wrong in the long term but on the basis of how things would go and the fact that the armed campaign would be run down and eventually become an embarrassment, Ruairi was 100% accurate. There's no doubt about it and listening to Martin here only reinforces that.
The British were the first to know the demographic shift was going to unite Ireland - they convinced the Sinn Fein leadership to accept transitional power - seems like a smart move by both sides - in 1986 SF had 4% of power in Republic Ireland , it's 25% today , and biggest party in the North - that's some shift from 86.
How right you have been desmond
Not in your life time ! Or mine ! It's the people who fought and died I feel sorry for including the ones who were killed by ( stake knife 🔪 ) for being so call touts ! And the 8 lads who were set up and gun down in a trap set for them with No way out !
60% of the population in ulster would vote No to a utd ireland ! 2023 ! And who could blame them .
Never never never change until Ireland is free! Lol lol the irony
Patricia Harte As Ruairi O'Bradaigh said....
Have you got the video of the 1986 Easter message? It's the one where Martin hints at the Libyan weapons.
I wonder how they'd have reacted if he said " I'll lead you to the republic .... when I'm sharing power with Ian paisley as deputy first minister of NI!
Chuckle brothers its funny Addams wasn't as up front an getting knighted 4 his role in this traitorous act and a repet of Collins an De dev mean while British still running Dublin trugh London/Belfast simply put they sold Ireland 2 the eu and now wer ruled by many unelected creatures with no back grounds in there statements there want 4 wars the mass migration the infiltration off so many countrys cultures education
FROM...BARCELONA..I UNDERSTAND SOME..IRISH ENGLISH...& i'm still crying...!!
how wrong was that. they should have followed Ruairi O Bradaigh
Aidan M Followed Eire Nua? Thats what Ruairi would have put on the table ffs even the most normal right thinking unionist barely just swallowed the GFA!
Eire Nua was a no goer with sectarian bigots who are allowed to play the so called famine song while ordinary decent folks are praying inside a chapel and the peelers just stand and watch. Eire Nua was definitely too green for Orange men who's thinking is not unlike ISIL.
Lies from his very first word to his last. The only people J118 spoke the truth to were his MI5 handlers. Two men stood on that platform, only one was a man of integrity.
History shows that your statement is a 💯 % right ✅️ !
After reading Ricky o rawes latest book about stakeknife, I am convinced McGuinness was working for the enemy f egg on the start. His men in Derry knew it all along. He was a fucking tout !!!
Proof, were it ever needed, that abstinence doesn't work. As it were.
The loyalists are out protesting about a flag only flying 18 days a year. That doesn't mean McGuinness is not a British servant.
J118 reading Adams's words. Two of the greatest assets england ever had.
Shame Shame Shame
But there are hearts and hands in Ireland yet that will free old Ireland still
He was definitely talking to mi6 , but what's not clear is what capacity was he talking to them ! Did he have the go ahead to talk to them from the others ! If so ever single word should have been taken down that was said between them ! Because you can be sure the British have ever single word of what was said and they didn't turn up with out asking the British state first .
Your reply did not undermine my comment.
Meanwhile he was running down the armed struggle
sas the poster of the comment which was undermined lol??!
How can anyone watch this and still justify such blatant hypocrisy from people like McGuinness and SF when it's clear they have betrayed their own cause in the worst way possible?
In your own time!
Breed them out!
you had your show, congratulations.. I cheered up on yall . Ironically. Sarcastically.
Sorry, what does Ard Fheis mean? Surrender?
So sad for all the volunteers who died fighting against what he settled for, so sad for all the men an women killed, called traitors an then the people who killed them go back on all what was fought for. Some insight , all the voilence to actually accept the british money , and be part of british rule in Ireland, if only they accepted the sunindale agreement instead of killing so many for nothing but what was offered in 1972 ?
Bang on
Rip to all heroes lost and shame on those who sold them out and let them down
after this point what did ruairi o bradaigh actually do that meant something? not one thing
Question is what did McGuinness do? The tout..
@@C.t1888 just Google it 🇮🇪
He told the truth ! That's all you want when you are at war ! Even single word he said has lasted the test of time ⏲️ !
I reject you....
👏👏👏👏👏👊
LOl is that it? Prevarication!
Well said!!!!!
God, is it really 25%?
2:10 lol Marty digging himself a very big hole
Howhowhow 😂 😮 thats the way the World goes round Moune❤
although im not from Ireland ive a feeling much of that is a protest vote at the incompetence of other parties and the austerity measures..Shame us Brits dont have a protest party getting 25% of the vote,we wouldnt be ruled by wankers then.
you led us to the water of which I would die of thirst,people make you out to be a modern day Michael Collins,you couldn't tie his laces
I wonder if McGuinness would have got such a rousing standing ovation if his audience knew that only 12 yrs later he and his Sinn Fein \IRA party would through the GFA , sign up to the principle of consent , recognising partition and the legitimacy of the 6 counties .
All for a seat at a Power Sharing executive , that was always available since 1973 at Sunningdale .
Republics are obsessed with the fact that they caused damage to the British establishment through their ‘armed struggle’ but the bottom line is that the IRA failed miserably in their campaign to remove British rule in Ireland . It was never ever on the negotiating table , in the end Republicans have accepted the only way to achieve a sovereign Ireland is through peaceful democratic means .
John Hume told them this every day since 1969 , it unfortunately took 30 yrs for Republicans to understand that fact.
Giving the Brits a hard time was never enough , once the Brits broke the back of the IRA through by riddling the organisation with informers it was always over bar the shouting . We are no better off today that we would have been by keeping with the peaceful,political process .
3500 lives lost during this so called ‘armed struggle ‘ was a total waste of lives ., time and the damage done to the economy .
well said!
I saw a video of Branden Hughes talking about how the Belfast Brigade was stock full of informants and agents... like every other man... but, why did Sinn Fein sign the deal? its it all about the money like everything is? they saw more power and money for themselves? like what is the complaint of the people opposed to the GFA? in down and dirty street terms...
so basically the GFA establishes British power in Ulster while at the same time allows for Catholic seats to collect crumbs?
The answer is, nope but the audience should have known the direction of travel by 86 if not the timing which I doubt Adams & Co knew themselves at this point in time, being willing to go step by step as conditions allowed which is largely what happened from 86 onwards. Admittedly it wasn't until the mid 90's that it became obvious for all to see. I must say it always baffles me that so many people from within the movement say they were unaware of the likely outcome by the time of the 1st ceasefire in 94, aftercall the deal on offer was plain to see in the shape of the Downing Street Declaration, no United Ireland in that document in the short-medium term.
You brits have short memories ! The PIRA just missed taking out the British cabinet on two occasions ! Brighton and nub10 downing Street ! Also the British army lost more personal in ulster Ireland than Afghanistan or Iraq wars ! The head of the British army in ulster Ireland said that the war against the PIRA couldn't achieved anything in the long term or short term !
More and more Anders Breivik looks like a normal person.
Your a shame shame shame. The irony is not lost on us!
I agree
Best speech!
I've been trying to find the 1986 IRA Easter Statement where they talk of being more confident & sure of victory than ever.
Glad to see you have refrained from over zealous use of the eroteme. But albeit only slightly. Various videos were infested by DonegalRaymie peddling his filth on several fronts.
What a man 🇮🇪🍀👍🙏💚
At 5 12 he said he leads a most revolutionary force in Irish history?Who gave the oration at Marty funeral???I rest my case....
Yes i assumed you were a loyalist, maybe that is still the case? Any forwarding on my question/s? Go easy on the keyboard now? An when you're at it why do u have comments banned and ratings removed from your vids, afraid of something?
Where are freedom,????
"A clown without make up"
Now , now , Harry Potter ! The lads done away with more British personnel in ulster Ireland then you c,,ts lost in Afghanistan or Iraq wars !
And that o
If you had shown 1% of the compromise over this last 18 years in 1981 we would have men alive walking the streets,Shame Shame Shame.
I didnt say it was, you comment should PROVE why he is, it does NOT??? Whom do you support, or are you another of these armchair revolutionaries, that support 'the war'??? Where is it?? lol!
as an English man mcguiness is a total hero of mine has he sold it out no he hasn't he got the sinn feins voice in the houses of parliament that's all they ever wanted for Ireland to be represented by irish people I wish English people would take his fight and apply it to the united kingdom todaya total soldier up there with che Guevara and Yasser arrafat
richard kent Your illiteracy is typical of a Republican sympathiser.
Andrew Finn thank you because a literacy argument while talking about martin McGuiness is truly relevant isn't it hahahaha
the whole point of the ira was to create a united Ireland.
and now gerry and Martin are pretending it's about equality within a British state.
our position is clear and it will never ever ever change lol.
yeah right pull the other one Martin
being an Englishman (living in England?) you were potentially a victim of an IRA atrocity - something worth bearing in mind as you wipe your saliva off his bell-end.
richard kent Lmfao....
Portrait down
PS, I don't agree with the Brit side either, was a loss on both sides but this guy was a murder allowed to go into politics and thats really not cool. A fight that has now dissolved into gand warfare. Taxis, drugs blah
Codename , the fisherman.
The highest informer
Code name butcher of the bogside *facts*
Lol ! Mi6 asked to speak to him about stopping the conflict and he got the go ahead to talk to them ! Mi6 informed him that the British state wanted out of ireland but couldn't walk away with out a morjorty in ulster voting for a utd ireland and asked him relay that massage ! 💯🇮🇪👌
Wasn't he not J118
R.I.P Patsy Gillespie.
RIP Martin
nothing but a "tout" as i believe informers are known in Northern Ireland.I have zilch support for the IRAs methods but fancy their leader informing on them.Dont worry Mcguinness you and Adams have been found out now,just in it for the money
Adams and McGuinness were very very shrewd operators, you dont fight war for wars sake, with no possibility of attaining the objective, no wise thinking 'general' would commit to that. British brass assessed that the IRA could never be defeated and vice versa, so he was correct in his assessments? Sinn Fein biggest party on the island now and the North, First Minister, its just a matter of time.
What about the innocent children kiilled during this dirty war???
I think the British army call it collateral damaged ! Not my words ! Hope that explains it for you !
What do the Ira call it?@@GG-kf8ox
@@jonoessexEssex boy in the house wtf 😂
It seems to have been just a fumigiena this guy. Track his route..
"SELLOUT".....
Vote Sinn Fein.
Ruairi O was a purest, but not a realist. I liked him and his drive for a pure republican position. The IRA and Sinn Fein by 1986 was infiltrated by spies and the people were getting tired. When you have to admit that you cannot defeat the Brits by military means, you have a duty to talk. The Brits also knew that they could not defeat the IRA and told Martin and Gerry that they were not married to holding onto the 6 counties. That left room for negotiations. The Officials became the small ineffective Workers Party, so they entered constitutional politics anyway. Sinn Fein now may head both the Republic and the 6 counties. They gave up on radicalism for control of gov't. That does not feel good but it is prgmatic. Winning by military means might also have produced control over gov't ,either way you have to appeal to enough Irish men and women to make it work and the Provos did not have that kind of support. Gerry Adams and Martin McGuinness both knew that from the inside out.
Pity he gave up the fight.
It was because he was going to be charged with murders, or shame and disgust about the results of the Remembrance Day bombings during his watch. Pressure on any persons mind.
@daveyork0 ! If that's the case then all them bombs dropped on familys in Afghanistan and Iraq from 20 thousands feet and wiped them all out should be ashamed of themselves ! But I can tell you straight out they are not as they were just doing their job and what they were told to do !
I once made a tweet to Martin McGuinness about a place that I think is sacred the graveyard of Yates in County Sligo with a beautiful backdrop of the mountains and he favoured my tweet. I will give McGuinness for that.
I'm Irish American.... even I can see how clearly he lied. is Ireland free and united ? ....no. so your "constitutional" method you denied here...still has not worked. what a traitor to his own cause.
Stfu
Good old Martin is buried on British soil😂😂
Buried on the island of Ireland … when you think about it… must be embarrassing to know you haven’t your own country and had to take a part of someone else’s, then call yourself British and the funniest bit of all … a Britain who doesn’t even want you …😂😂😂😂. proud to be Irish ..☘️
Go easy on the Question mark button or you will lose it with your incessant thumping on your keyboard. Your comment about loyalists protesting was completely and utterly irrelevant. Why did you post such a reply in the first instance?
Lol balls.
Gave up the fight,more like sold out to the brits.
This is when Britain ruled Ireland.
He sold out bigtime!
As Martin said and it no doubt applies to some of the the armchair generals on here “where were they when there was a war”. RSF and the Eire Nua policy has made no inroads in 34 years since 1986. SF have delivered an international binding agreement for British withdrawal in time with consent. It’s not perfect but the electoral strength of SF has made a United Ireland a reality rather than an aspiration. It’s easy for people to criticise McGuinness but I suppose Mandela was/is criticised too. How many British soldiers have been killed since 1986 by CIRA. I rest my case...
Clown, Britain is the only country I know who invades other countries bombs their homes, etc shoots and kills innocent victims in peaceful protests in their backs whilst trying to flee the terrifying genocide, they think their killings over in countries like Syria Afghan, etc are justified when they have no right to be there in the first place, you support this so-called justified killings of innocent civilians but you insist when these people fight back that THEY are the terrorists, LMFAO? Honestly, you are so screwed up in the head it's laughable then you think you can win a debate on the amount of professionally trained soldiers that were killed by normal freedom fighters fighting for their countries freedom from imperialism, this was a war between Irish civilians fighting for their own country and English invaders, Your army are terrorists just as much as the IRA were, except they are worst they are doing it in other countries too not just Ireland, bet your real proud to be a Brit :)
"Where were they when there was a war" could apply to most of his own party. Where was Mary Lou etc? Mcguinness achieved nothing that wasn't already on offer. The border poll was already a thing last held in 1973. Éire Nua remains the only serious framework how unionists could be absorbed into an independent Ireland. McGuinness' party have yet to draw up any blueprint how Ireland would be governed. They are too busy running British rule and fawning over British royals
That's disrespectful to the lads who were involved on both sides of the British border ! The lads in ulster had the financial backing and man power to move in and out as they wanted ! Most of the lads would have been more than happy to draw the British state back into the south of ireland 🇮🇪 to finish what they started .
sein fein seĺl out
then 10 years down the line he swaps his balaclava n combats for an Armani suit
Lol😢
What a nice fella. 💥💣
Says a fella with a UFF avatar. I've no time for McGuinness but it shows you either don't know what the UFF is/was or are entirely stupid and don't recognise your own hypocrisy.
Ye , just like any other people who are at war ! It brings out the dark side in people who have been wronged in their own country !
How right was Ruairi what he was saying. Sell outs
he done much more 4r the 6 counties n the north 4r republicans than most keyboard warriors on this history will judge him personally a think he has brought us closer to a united Ireland n gave catholics a voice ...an prolacht Abu. .tal32
The problem is that everything that he says from 3:00 is correct. He just has to remove "twenty" from the "twenty-six counties" bit and he's completely right. Republican struggle, sacrifice and rhetoric failed to get anywhere in the north, leaving them alone and isolated and easily dealt with. It's a shame that it took the best part of a decade and 700 more deaths before he and his colleagues took his comments to their logical conclusion and tried a different and more successful road.
John Harts Successful road? You mean a successful cozy lifestyle for Mr. Mcguinness & Co. with the Crowns blessing....
``shows the change wen u take the queens shilling``
Sinn fein sell outs
We should be ok with rule from Westminster and speak English, which already we do! British Isles stronger together under one Queen :)
Go on home
You are a good man Martin 🏴🏴🏴🏴🇮🇪🇮🇪
WTF? Ruariri wouldn't have won a pair of glasses in a charity shop. fair play to mc Guinness. Donegal for Sam!
Nevermind the outright lies eh? Two men stood on the platform. Only one told the truth.
Northern Ireland remains British and always will be.
Kind of embarrassing though isn’t it .. a part of Ireland to remain British … so proud to call my own country home and not have had to hikack someone else’s … 😂
Our Martin of the Republican provisional Movement the best man ever to wear shoe leather
He is the greatest Statesman and Freedom Fighter of all times.
We are proud to have Soldiered with Martin And Gerry . Martin the Greatest Leader Ever
Just replying to Arty m, do you honestly think that all IRA weapons were decommissioned and destroyed?? You have absolutely no understanding of politics either in life or in an armed struggle, politics is a way of life, democracy is a way of life, Martin mcGuinness in 1986 made an intelligent decision to allow a vote in relation to abstentionism thus opening new avenues of trust and support for the republican struggle in Northern Ireland, listening to yourself you seem as if you want to go on fighting forever, there's no way that a deep rooted unionist system going back hundreds of years would simply allow armed struggle to remove, it had to go hand in hand with politics, thus seen with the resignation of Martin shortly before his death, and the increase in republican representatives in the new assembly, unfortunately Rory decided to hardline and although I have the upmost respect for him he hasn't left very much of a positive legacy, it's a real pity and to hear him in his latter years slagging Adams and McGuinness is very sad. Attention had to go one way or another, as Martin said.. We are not at war with the Irish free state. RIP Comrade McGuinness.
Rory was correct all along
( we are not at war with the free state ) REMEMBER them words when SF gets into government and continues on with massive uncontrolled illgel immigration into Ireland 🇮🇪 ! You will be at war !
A true patriot for Ireland, RIP Martin
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Rubbish
@@tomr4376it's a fact
@@tomr4376why you think he was allowed walk around
You wouldnt lace Martins boots sir. He has done more for Ireland in one day than you will do in your entire miserable life.
Well this is awkward.
Abstentionists were spot on...shame shame shame on you Martin and Gerry run the armed struggle into the ground
Explain then ?
Irish unity is on the way 100 per cent and the Brit’s know it 😂😂😂😂🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪
Lol😢