2015-2017 Mustang GT Ford Performance Stage 3 Power Pack - Install & Dyno
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- Improve performance and horsepower in your 2015-2017 Mustang GT with this Ford Performance Intake and Calibration Power Pack 3! These calibrations feature exclusive Ford proprietary software and engineering backed by a Ford Performance warranty. This Power Pack includes a GT350 cold air intake, GT350 intake manifold, 87mm throttle body, and Ford calibrator. This kit increases performance by 37hp and 5 lbs/ft torque peak gains over stock to the flywheel. At 7,500 RPM they saw a spike of 60 horsepower on an engine dyno!
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Stock Dyno: 395HP/370TQ
- Ford Performance GT350 Sport Catback Exhaust
- Manual MT-82 (5th gear pull at 1:1)
- 3.73 Gears
- 93 Octane
- 19" Wheels
After Dyno: 432HP/380TQ +37HP/+10TQ
- Ford Performance Stage 3 Power Pack
- Ford Performance GT350 Sport Catback Exhaust
- Manual MT-82 (5th gear pull at 1:1)
- 3.73 Gears
- 93 Octane
- 19" Wheels
Mustang Fitment: 2015-2017 GT w/ 5.0L
Item # M9452M8
MPN # M-9452-M8
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Just got mine installed and so happy with it amazing how much it woke up the car, the best part is that if I blow up the engine it's covered by the warranty
You took it to ford to install?
@@wazqii7191 I’m wondering the same thing I’m bout to do this to my 2017 gt mustang and need to know how much it cost
Thank you for a great installation video. I'm sure it saved me at least 3-4 hours of do-overs when I'll be attempting the task this weekend. I can't believe Ford didn't provide any documentation with the manifold; yet with a relatively simple Ford CAI purchase, they include a 15-page illustrated instruction manual.
finally sure am glad you review the power pack 3
This video helped me a lot with the installation. Everything worked right away with my tune. I used a PMAS cold air and locked IMRC’s open so the routing was slightly different but it all worked.
Wish you guys would deliver to Switzerland! Nice work!
Another great install vid. Similar to a 3-valve in a lot of ways, but looks like it requires about double the work due to so many "in-between" steps.
Man, some people cant read dyno sheets, it´s not always about the peak gains....
look at the great difference from HP an Torque from 2000rpm to 3000rpm (+50hp/30ftp) and once again at the huge difference starting at 4700rpm till the end. there is a difference of torque from 30 footpounds constant and 35whp at 6500rpm to a stock mustang. after 5000 rpm the voodoo bridge breaks the shit out of the car, especially after the point of 6700rpm. whp plus from 70hp and 50ftp. Halleluja!
Thats definitly worth it and you keep your warranty and theres no bad tune on it, killing some carparts. With a deleted electronical speedlimiter you could hit in 5th gear 175 miles at 7500rpm not "just" 150. for a quick mile, it is also great thing, because you will hit 120 miles with no extra shift in 4th gear.
In my opinion, this is a killer tune from ford performance, you will get a all new character out of the mustang.
i'm glad I'm not the only one to see this, you saved me the having to explain it, plus the new red line is 7,500rpm with no head work, now if I knew what the price was, but the labor Ford charges is what I don't like..lol but many shops charge a lot anyways so not bad going with Ford for the warranty..
You do a good job on your tutorials. Keep it up!
Andrew, thanks for the kinds words! -Landan
Late Model Restoration
what does this pack raise the rev limiter too? Also is there an option to raise the speed limiter? thank you
*Look at the Wheel Horsepower Gain from 2000-3700 rpms, which is where you spend most of your time.*
*+50whp at 2200 or 150whp to 200whp*
*+45whp at 2500 or 170whp to 215whp*
*+25whp at 3000 or 220whp to 245whp*
*+15whp at 3500 or 265whp to 280whp*
*472 peak BHP*
*435 bhp stock*
Gonna have me some fun when the 2018 version comes out.
@Elliott Feaster Me?
*Exactly most people ignore the gains under the curve and only focus on the peak gains*
Stage 1 and 2 looking like best stages
Great instructions. I was able to install everything without complications and this is coming from someone who has basic skills.
That is Great that the install had no issue. We appreciate your support. Thank you
Love your videos Landan!
Thanks for the kudos brotha! -Landan
That was crazy! Glad you like em, Brandon! -Landan
i think I'll pay for the stage 3 kit and then pay an expert to put it on, watching this made my head hurt😆
you seriously can't bolt on an intake manifold? You should not be driving.
@@charlesmeaux3954 17 other people disagreed...🤔🤔🤔 besides I personally don't have the patience for all that...😁😁😁✌✌✌
Nothing wrong with being honest. I just did mines and I wish I would have had someone to.do it for me as I have so much to do.
@@charlesmeaux3954 Looks pretty daunting if you haven't wrenched on cars that much.
@@MuahMan It’s practically an easy job with a seasoned mechanic looking over your shoulder.
I am pretty sure Ford's tune is pretty conservative. I don't doubt that a more aggressive tune would yield and extra 10 plus at the wheels. Great combo, the installation seems like it involves alot of steps though.
Would like to of seen a dyno comparison between this and the Cobra Jet intake manifold.
Very nice Job!! Love Mustang!
Thank you for choosing LMR for your Mustang Needs.
Great video!!
How much did you notice on the mpg? Lose or gain? I read a intake shootout between the stock Coyote intake , bose302, gt350, Cobrajet intake. In the article they where upgrading 2014 gt and gained 2 mpg with the GT350. Curious if there was any significant change with the 2015 when upgrading to the GT350.
Ive been waiting for this video for a while thanks LMR. yeah only 37hp but look at the peak gains! The stock GT runs out of steam and puts out 360whp at factory redline of 6700, after the stage 3 power-pack its still pulling harder for another 700-800 rpm to 7500rpm and 410whp with no lift shifting. Thats a 60whp gain up top with stock driveability. This would make a massive impact on a roll race. And you keep your factory ford warranty for 2k, im sold. I have a 15 GT pp when I get my tax return you will get a call from me LMR.
Thank you for the great feedback! -Landan
we have found better power with porting the stock intake at the tb inlet and just cleaning the runners--along with tony gonyons dyno tunes I make 392 hp and 379 torque with small mods-in a 14 auto---when not spraying
Late Model Restoration, read my comment I just posted. Thanks
Lol same, 7500 redline im sold.
Force Times Distance Equals ? Torque wer you
stage 3 kit and the car still has the original exhaust?? decat this thing put new hight flow headers and have some nice gains...
So stock tune with a catback is 395whp. Cold air intake and a tune would put you at 415whp. GT350 intake 430whp. So the intake is worth 15whp.
Just installed the kit, car shows P2006 code what can that be? Tuned the car as well. Can it be the white wires in back of manifold?
Just installed mine!! Love it. Question... how do u use octane adjust? What happens if i turn it on?
You can do it on your laptop. By default, it is set to 91 octane. Give us a call at 866-507-3786 if you have any more questions.
LMR big question here..
I just ordered the gt350 throttle body, and I got the Blowfish adapter unit that’s used to install it to the stock manifold.. however, I’ve decided to get the 350 manifold and do it all at once.. so do I still need to use the blowfish adapter? If not, is it still an option for me to use it, and have it act as a spacer? Thank you so much.
If you didnt get an answer yet, no you don't need the blowfish adapter and no you cant use it as it wouldnt be the same connections. When you use the blowfish adapter its connecting the 87mm tb to the stock manifold because the tb wont fit without it, but on the 350 manifold it is already fit to take the 350 tb and it would be technically useless and probably won't fit
awesome!
Do this car come with the catalytic converters from factory? And do it still have it? Amazing results and a good video!
Yes, this car has catalytic converters from the factory, and yes, it still has them in place. Thanks for the great feedback! -Landan
I've run into a few problems with my 2019 GT essentially the GT 350 manifold does not have the same imrc plugs in the . There is only one blue plug and the two white plugs do not fit either. Also not sure what to do with the EVAP routing because things have changed since 2015 to 17 model you no longer unscrew the EVAP sensor and port and move it over I wish there was a video for 2019 install
I have read that the factory is just as good as the gt350 intake manifold. There's nothing to gain.
How is it possible that the HP and TQ crossed at 4750 and not 5250? I thought all cars cross at 5250...
I think people are missing the point that this is to keep your warranty. Of course you can get more hp from any other tune but your fucked if anything happens. I order mine tomorrow ride it out until the warranty runs out and than hook a Paxton to it.
S550 Gainz how has it been so far?
+ S550 Gainz: Federal Trade Commission (FTC), the agency confirmed that “The Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act makes it illegal for companies to void your warranty or deny coverage under the warranty simply because you used an aftermarket part.”
Thinking about getting this later on...i live in a place where there are no tracks, drag strips, etc. just a feww good highway pulls. But the car scene here is no joke. Should i just go for the stage 2 or give it my all with the stage 3? Im more of a daily
Personally, I like stage 3, but I road race this car about 5-7 times a year. -Landan
If i add headers can i use pro cal tool to tune it??
Definately too complex for a diy for me. You make it look easy 👍😎
Hello Morten
Feel free to call me directly at 254-296-6556 if you have any other questions. Have a Great Day.
So if I plan upgrading the injectors and adding long tube headers with this upgrade, will I need a specific custom tune vs. the pre-cal tool?
Any modification other than what is provided with the Stage 3 kit will require a different handheld tuner and tune. -Landan
American Muscle claims 60hp gains at 7500. All dyno results i"ve seen have been around 40??
I think I see more torque under the curve and it peaks longer.
Can i use stock throttle body with adaptor plate?
I was able to get 409hp 407tq to the tires in a 14' Camaro automatic with full exhaust, CAI and a 91 octane tune. The LS and Coyotes are tough to beat.
Those numbers aren't too shabby. You need a cam to really wake up that LS though.
rompn4x Ls3 or L99? Ls3 is what you want
Denzell Powell akioras boy
That's it?
At the risk of sounding stupid I have one question for you guys and wonder if anybody who has installed this kit can answer it for me. If you install the Ford Performance K&N cold air intake does the Ford dealership reoil the filter for you as you come by to do regular services? I know that you do not reoil it frequently but that is a serious fear of mine, applying the oil and fucking up sensors. I would pay the service or aftermarket area of a dealership to do that for me
Ford didn't receive the bailout....that was GM, Chrysler.
questions .. 1. can the Boss 302 intake be put on the 15 to 17 5.0?
2. if it can i would love to see that video and numbers
1. Yes it can.
2. We don't have a video, but there is an article out there. www.stangtv.com/tech-stories/engine/coyote-intake-manifold-shootout-gt-gt350-boss-302-and-cobra-jet/
How does this power pack work with say Lomg Tube Headers and Magnaflow Street or Race exhaust? Would there be more productive increase of power or counterproductive results?
You need to constantly stay over 6000 rpms to feel the power gains.
@@mikehughes8023 sooooooo same thing with say if I go with CobraJet intake instead? Good high rpm horsepower increase?
so does the gt350 intake manifold add more power, revs, and area under the torque curve than the cobra jet and boss 302 manifolds?
Check out this article StangTV wrote covering the popular Coyote intake manifolds: www.stangtv.com/tech-stories/engine/coyote-intake-manifold-shootout-gt-gt350-boss-302-and-cobra-jet/
You'll notice the Cobra Jet and GT350 manifolds make similar power. -Landan
This was an amazing read, thanks for posting Landan! -Houston
Am i able to sell product when im done with it?
I really want to do this but it seems like a ton of work. I am very mechanically inclined, but don't know if I would have the balls to do it myself. Got quoted $1500 for installation at my dealer and that isnt happening either. Is it worth it?
its a 1 hour install!!! IF that is a "ton of work" you need to get a new hobby.
Seems very similar to my Boss 302 intake manifold, 90 mm BBK throttle valve, Airaid CAI and SCT tune I put on my '13 GT. The Boss 302 intake looks better though! Will the '15+ cars take the parts I put on my '13? If so what might be the price difference?
Robert Kohut the boss intake manifold will not allow the 15+ hood to shut. It would fit the motor though.
nvhsaccel Thanks!
How does this kit respond to an e85 tune? I'm wondering, as e85 is plentiful in my area...and waaay cheaper than 92.
Hi Petty,
Premium fuel, 91 octane or higher, is required when running this kit. If you have any other questions or concerns, please give us a call at 1-866-507-3786 or use the contact us link below to email our tech team. lmr.com/contact
Has any one done this with a Hellyon twin turbo kit?
What were the curve gains? I wanted to compare them to the numbers from your stage 2 video. Do we get those same lower end benefits with stage 3 that we get with stage 2, or is stage 3 only for the higher end with the lower end still feeling stock? Thanks.
The low-end torque curve of the stage 3 kit is less than that of the stage 2 kit. You are right, the stage 3 kit is engineered for top-end performance. -Landan
@@latemodelrestoration Thanks Landan. Do you know what the crank horsepower increases to after power pack 2?
Considering the 421RWHP from the stage 2 dyno, I would put the flywheel numbers around the 480-490HP mark with the stage 2 kit. -Landan
@@latemodelrestoration thanks bro
You're welcome! -Landan
Install video was great and helpful. I have a manuel and redline is 7k. Am I missing something? Or is the 7.5k for autos only?
I’m thinking the redline increases. In that case, maybe get the digital dash so you can see revs over 7K?
The cluster still turns red a 7k but the fuel cut off is higher, try winding it all the way out
Ive just installed a GT350CAI (not manifold) to my 16 GT. The GT350CAI only has 2 ports on it for 1x vacuum and 1x PCV. However my 16 car has 2x IMRC vacuum lines. Does anyone know what to do with my leftover 3rd line? Can I just T-joint it into the other IMRC line? Thanks!
Reference pages 11 & 12. performanceparts.ford.com/download/instructionsheets/FordInstShtM-9603-M8A.pdf
-Landan
thanks landan :)
Can you take it to any ford, purchase the kit and have them install it? Also if I take them bbk headers can they install them aswell?
Jose - I would contact your local dealership first before assuming. Long tube headers are not supported within the Ford calibration. -Landan
Has the gt350 intake manifold been tested to fit on the 2018 Mustang GT yet?
Almost no point since the 18 intake is so good, people have already swapped them onto the 15-17 and made just slightly under a gt350 intake from what I've seen
“ High Flow Paper filter” 😂
There is something off on the stock reading as the HP and TQ do not intersect at 5252 rpm. Never seen a dyno graph that was not intersected at 5252 rpm. The 2nd graph is correct by comparison. Interesting don't you think?
You can scale the graph in the dyno software to where the axis are "locked", thus shifting the intersect point of the horsepower and torque. This doesn't alter the results, but it change the look of the graph for a different visual of the horsepower and torque curve. For the stock run, we accidently "locked" the axis in the software. Thanks for the comment. -Landan
@@latemodelrestoration Hi Landan: Hilarious! This is a 6 years old video and you still replied to me. That's awesome! Nice job. I thought I was the only one who did that. Didn't know the graph could be manipulated like that. I just bought a complete Gen 3 Coyote from Summit. I also have a cherry, 03 Marauder. What do you suppose could happen?
@@lencac7952 I try to respond to every comment that comes through. You could have bought that Gen 3 engine from us! :) Sounds like you have a fun project! -Landan
@@latemodelrestoration Hey Landan: So what would it cost from you. Complete Gen 3 Coyote with flex plate, engine and trans harness?
@@lencac7952 Ford Performance sets the pricing on their engines, but you could still see a very small price difference. I checked over the prices and we come out a touch more expensive the Summit. I'm glad we had this little conversation. I sent the info to our product team so they can take a look at our pricing and make sure we stay competitive. Have a good day. Thanks! -Landan
The mid range is basically the same!
Got the code p061a, installed this, throttle body, and have an air raid intake, it's tuned by bama
We suggest contacting your tuner. Have a great a day!
They need to make power packs 2-3 for 2018+ mustangs. Or do these work ?
The Stage 3 Power Pack will only fit on 15-17 S550 Mustangs. Most 18+ owners stick with the stock intake manifold, since they perform very well.
Can I sell it when done.? I super charged mine
Can you adjust for wheel/tire changes with the calibration tool?
Yes. -Landan
I have this package on my 2016 gt automatic with 3:55 gears. Only other difference is that I have bbk shorty headers with a corsa sport cat back exhaust. I never made a baseline run, but when on the dyno this past weekend it only made 384 whp. I know individual results vary, I have a automatic and my car has shorty headers. However, isn't that still a big difference between my car and this one?
Mingo 70 did they actually apply the tune
dennis eddy They provided the tune and ObdII interface which I applied. I'm sure the vehicle would run terrible if it were not applied. I think that by me changing the stock headers and exhaust had a negative effect on my power output. That tune from Ford is based upon a totally stock car. Their headers and exhaust system. I have a custom tune to apply once I get the car back from the dealer for a unrelated matter.
I think it's weird also. I have a Vmp tune to upload. Will see how it works out.
Mingo 70 They got this on a manual car on a dyno jet. You probably ran you auto car on a mustang dyno, not a dyno jet. Dyno jets always read higher than a mustang dyno. Also, your car is a auto, which means it has more drivetrain loss. If your car was indeed ran on a mustang dyno, and got 385whp, thats is not bad. I dyno’d my bone stock automatic 3:15 gear 2017 GT on a mustang dyno and got 337 whp. Mustang dyno would have been around 375whp. Here in cali they only have 91 octane as well.
WatchThisRightNow It was a dynojet dyno, however I do have questions about the way he ran the car. I'm not sure that he locked and ran the car in 5th gear, and the rpms seemed pretty low when he turned it over. Also his torque reader was not working so I got no torque or rpm reading on my print out. Im going to take the car somewhere else when the weather breaks.
creating your very own Mach 1
Just ordered mine! Cant waite.. can i later add super charger?
William De La Pena - You can, as long as you run a centrifugal supercharger which are better than roots anyway.
Which shops should I go to that are trustworthy that can install it for me? Do ford dealers do it?
It would be best to check with your local Ford Dealer to see if they will install this kit for you. Being a Ford Performance part, you should have no problem having them install it for you.
If I use different tune like engauge will it make more hp??!? And can I retune with procal tool after?
In most cases, a custom tune will make more power, but they can void the warranty. You cannot do both though. It will have to be one or the other. Also, a custom tune is not legal in California, but the procal is.
@@latemodelrestoration thank u . U guys always very helpful. I appreciate it.
Stage 1 -410whp
stage 2 - 421whp
stage 3 - 432whp
Does the power pack 3 utilize the gt350 manifold IMRC?
Yes, the power pack does utilize the GT350 IMRC.
hey bud if i purchase carb legal shorty headers along with this pack can i use procal tool to tune it??
William,
Unfortunately, the Procal does not adjust for headers.
If you have a Coyote engine then shorty headers are just a waste of $$….Just keep the stock ones.
Thanks for this video. Curious though...what tires are on this Mustang? Thanks!
We have the Nitto NT555 G2 in the front and Nitto NT05's in the rear.
Thanks. Stock sizes?
305/35/19 in the rear and 275/35/19 in the front
What the time for install? Trying to find out how much for install! Great video!
Thanks for the feedback! A time frame would all depend on the installer's mechanical background. From start to finish, this install took me roughly two hours. All of the small tedious work took up the majority of my time. -Landan
Late Model Restoration thanks! 2 hours for you and the dealer will charge for 3 I think. Going to call them tomorrow. I like the safe but more power way for sure. Can you data log this setup up? How would I know that my car is running correctly after this install? Or if the car could run better? Thanks!
No need to datalog. This a Ford calibration and is 100% dead on with ZERO drive-ability issues. In my opinion, the car drives and feels better than it did stone stock. Hope this helps! -Landan
Do you have to install stage 1 and 2 before installing stage 3?
And does stage 3 include 1 and 2 in it ?
No, you do not. Stage 3 does not include 1 or 2. -Landan
Kay MEsfits l
so im cleaning the cold air intake.. do i need to oil after cleaning????
The factory filter in this kit is a standard non-oiled replacement. If you do want to go with a reusable option, here is the link for this replacement. lmr.com/item/M9601G/ford-performance-gt350-performance-air-filter-m-9601-g
What size wheels and how lowered is it looks sick !
Wheels: lmr.com/products/mustang-sve-gt350-wheels-1516
Springs: lmr.com/item/SVE-5300C/2015-Mustang-SVE-Lowering-Springs-Progressive-Rate
-Landan
5lbft that better make a lot in the curve
Can i use procal tool to tune any new mods like cams???
No.
hey bud . quick question. can i use 100 racing fuel with this ?
I am sure this is not a problem, but you may want to consult with your tuner just to make sure.
Ford should offer this setup as an option for original purchase, not as an add on. The cost difference would be minimal...but then again, maybe this is the power gain the 2018 will have. Time will tell.
U r awesome
Does the tune change when the tach lights up red like it does at the stock redline?
That's a good question! I was staring right at the tach during the dyno run, but that wasn't something I was looking for. -Landan
kjetplane yes it does.
KEY POINTS: KEEP FACTORY WARRANTY! IT BREAKS, I'M COVERED. CLUTCHLESS SHIFTS. END OF STORY. I HAVEN'T EVEN BOUGHT IT BUT IT LOOKS GREAT.
Any idea what the average install price would be from an authorized dealer for this? (just a ballpark I know they are all different)
I'd probably say $200-$400 dollars as a ballpark estimate. -Landan
hanzo52281 There are two authorized dealers near me (Los Angeles area) and one asked $540 and the other $700. I guess it depends on what part of the country you live in, Southern California prices most likely to be on the higher side.
Francis Larocque I was quoted 880 at a Ford Dealership in Houston
I know boosted is the best, but if I were to stay NA, what do we think is the best, stage 2 or 3? I don't race, I just like to get on it around town. Stage 2 seems to be better for lower RPM, Thoughts? Does anyone have a stage 2 overlaid with a stage 3 dyno graph?
I'm an avid road racer, so the stage 3 makes sense for me. However, if I just drove the car and had no intentions on tracking it, I would probably go the stage 2 route. Of course, that's just my personal opinion. -Landan
Adam Durando I took a screen shot of the dyno graphs made by LMR for the Power Pack 2 and 3 and analyzed them. The Power Pack 3 has more hp and torque in the low (below 3500) and high (above 5200) RPM ranges. The Power Pack 2 wins only in the mid RPM range. It's a matter of personal preference and hard to know which one is best for your driving style without trying both options. I installed the Pack 3 even though I'm not racing (yet!) because the stock car annoyed me with its low end power (mid-range was ok) and I thought that the power band was way too short for my personal liking. I have 3.73 gears, car does not feel sluggish in the mid-range. The sound at high RPM is glorious (Corsa Sport catback).
Francis Larocque Hi, I just installed a power pack 3 on my 16 Gt. I get a discharge of air pressure out the Cai filter when I turn the car off. Does yours do the same thing?
That is completely normal. The stock airbox does the same thing. Since it is concealed, it isn't as audible as an open filter element is. -Landan
Adam Durando thanks for the reply
why is it only getting 395 hp when ther mustang gt come 435 stock?
those numbers are to the crank. what the actual motor pulls. the dyno measures wheel horse power(whp) which is the actual useable power. you lose 10-15% because of the weight of the car. Manufacturers never show wheel horse power. its always what it makes at the crank
does it matter on which imrc silenoid the connections go? or are they the same?
Hey there, they are the same but we recommend using the original locations as when you removed the OEM intake manifold.
The white ones matter the blue ones do not
lots of work and money for 37hp!
blade000007 this is basically to keep Warranty on car otherwise...too pricey
blade000007 Look at the top end power its around 60 wheel more at above 7000 rpm so it is worth it. Also the tunes are pretty conservative it should make much more
CENTENON you do know 17 year olds can drive by themselves
no doubt, save your pennies and get a forced induction setup
atvkid0805
*Why would I want a 700hp Mustang?*
Also why is this one better than stage two🤔?
The manifold will offer much more benefits.
Why did your vacuum tube came out differently?
You may reach out to our contact us page so our tech department can try to help you out with your questions. lmr.com/contact
Is traveling 1,000 RPMs over the factory stock 6500 RPM redline safe and reliable?
This kit is still installed on the car in the video, and we have had zero problems. The car is also tracked multiple times a year. -Landan
Yes just keep the oil changed on time.
remember this still doesn't have full exhaust & a proper tune. And even then full exhaust won't void your warranty but the tune might
And you can still put a better air filter, and weight reduction. You can easily put a Camaro SS & srt 392 to sleep while looking better and have the warranty! And instead of getting the performance pack upgrade you can just spend that money towards this and get a 477hp mustang with dealer warranty
I really like the video but for stage 3 the power is too low
It makes a bigger difference than just peak power. It also extends the usable power band by 500 RPM.
How much is the Stage 3 power pack I have a 2016 GT
Samuel, here is the link: lmr.com/products/15-17-mustang-power-packs -Landan
Does this make your check engine light come on?
No, it does not.
Where can I get that vacuum hose that come with the stage 3 kit?
You'll want to check in with your local Ford dealer for that specific vacuum hose for the Stage 3 kit. We do not offer the hose separate from the kit.
@@latemodelrestoration will it hurt if i added a blowfish adapter to the manifold with the TB?
Please call or email us with the link below and a customer service representative can assist you with that. Thanks! - lmr.com/contact
if you have 2k for the stage 3 kit and another 2k for the gt350 exhaust just laying around might aswell of added that money toward a real gt350 down payment lol
A GT350 down payment?? Really??? You're talking about a 25k difference on average in pricing. That's enough to buy halfshafts capable of withstanding 1000HP.... A formidable clutch and trans, a forged short block and turbos/Supercharger.... You are talking about a full build here.
25k diff without dealer markup. one at my dealer was selling for 80,000. Thats x2 what my GT cost.
Texarmageddon what i ment was if you have thousands of dollars to just throw away, you could probably afford a gt350.
if you had a Ford dealer do this for you, you could almost buy a gt350 for the difference in cost. or just get a supercharger.
How much crack did you smoke before this post ? A supercharger is $6500-9000 and will cost about another $1400 with installation. Then you need a new clutch , fuel pump, tires/ rims . In the end you will have a faster car but you would have spent about $10-15k by the time you were done. Much more than this pack at $2000 and $800 for an install or do it yourself .
If I tried this I would fuck up so hard lol
This information basically tells me to buy a 2018 GT
I don't like the 2 overdrive gears of the newer gts , slightly kills the extra power.
@@Spiritcr1jsher
I wonder if it's easy to swap an older MT82 6-Speed with the better 5th gear 1:1 ratio in there. I would definitely look to do that. I'm betting the 2018 manual picks up a tenth or two from the better gearing
@@331Grabber I guarantee it will since it's not that torquey of a motor and the car loves to rev . Especially with a 7400rpm redline. It's a MPG thing . I would bet 23mpg highway would be the number on an older mt82 gearbox and I also bet it's a straight forward swap.
@@Spiritcr1jsher
The weird thing is the old MT82 with 5th as 1:1 has virtually the same 6th gear overdrive ratio as the double overdrive new ones. I think Ford figured customers didn't like the huge RPM drop from 5th to 6th gear on the older MT82.
My 03 Mach 1 has almost the same drop 4th to 5th but I'd never wish for another tweener overdrive gear :)
@@331Grabber I have the 3.73 gears on my 2015 so I dont notice it as much I guess . I'm at like 2500rpms at 80mph in 6th give or take. 2 overdrive gears sucks . My 87 gt did like 85mph in 5th at 2000rpms...lmao
Can the Gen 2 reliably handle higher RPM’s with this set up?
Rigo - This exact kit has been installed on the vehicle in the video since January 2017. We don't daily drive the car, but it does go on long trips, and it is road raced at high-performance driving events. Hope this helps. -Landan
If I’m staying with the stock throttle body do I need to make the electrical harness modifications?
@@rigoalbiter6955 What exact electrical harness modifications are you referring to? There are a few different ones in the video? -Landan
The throttle body connection
@@rigoalbiter6955 No. There is no modification needed to the throttle body electrical connection. -Landan
what type of dyno you guys use???
We use a Dynojet dynamometer. -Landan
***** ok thanks...
What are the gains if you have 93 octane? Anything?
*He said he was using 93 octane*
Escape for Mankind is Keith Johnson No he didn't. He said a minimum of 91 then put a 91 octane sticker in the fuel door.
This is true but it is tuned for 91.
So can i use imrc lockouts
Yes, you will need to use a set of IMRC deletes when installing this kit. Here is a link to some that you can order: lmr.com/item/MMR-478911/2018-mustang-cmcv-imrc-deletes-red
might as well put that money towards a supercharger
Superchargers cost around 5-6k and void the warranty. This is much less and does not void the warranty. So no, I'd rather not put that money towards a supercharger.
roush and their roush supercharger is partnered with ford performance and if installed by an authorized ford dealer that sells roush products it will not void warranty.
That doesnt include thousand plus for new wheels to grip better and other parts to handle the SC.
@@BluRadoZ71 not to mention more weight ..... probably another 100lbs when it's all said and done.