Clarke and Dawe - The Energy Market Explained

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  • čas přidán 7. 09. 2024
  • "Wal Socket. Energy Consultant" Originally aired on ABC TV: 16/03/2017
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Komentáře • 437

  • @CRCinAU
    @CRCinAU Před 2 lety +834

    So even in 2022, 5 years on and we're in yet another energy crisis. This stuff is just timeless...

    • @skazka3789
      @skazka3789 Před 2 lety +10

      "We need some of that gas here"
      Shit aged like milk

    • @StevieCooper
      @StevieCooper Před 2 lety +9

      I was also just recommended this. They were great

    • @menglandau
      @menglandau Před 2 lety +15

      It was filmed way before 5 years ago. John Clarke died in 2017.

    • @StevieCooper
      @StevieCooper Před 2 lety +9

      @@menglandau yes your right. I remember being in my car parked at work when the news broke. Jon Faine was presenting the breakfast program, almost in tears.

    • @ConstantlyDamaged
      @ConstantlyDamaged Před 2 lety +4

      "yet another"
      You mean "the same"?

  • @fromthedumpstertothegrave3689

    Absolutely love it
    "They're still owned by the government"
    "The Victorian government still own them?"
    "No, the governments of Singapore and China, still a government though."

    • @hoilst265
      @hoilst265 Před rokem +14

      "But didn't all the energy in this country - wasn't it owned by the Australian people?"
      "Yeah, we fixed that."

  • @jon-francis9289
    @jon-francis9289 Před 2 lety +551

    Five years after his death John Clarke is explaining things to me that I never quite knew or understood. We all have to go sometime but I doubt we will ever replace him. RIP Mr Dagg

    • @MsHellcat08
      @MsHellcat08 Před 2 lety +23

      Some of us still mourn him; what a talent!

    • @jmorton201
      @jmorton201 Před 2 lety +8

      Vale John

    • @suh4771
      @suh4771 Před 2 lety +13

      Imagine what John would have done with Morrison and the LNP Govt? Amazing man he was.

    • @alankemp2415
      @alankemp2415 Před 2 lety

      God Bless You Mr Clarke....RIP

    • @normalisoverrated
      @normalisoverrated Před 2 lety +1

      I had NO IDEA we Built the mines, only to sell them... Ridiculous!

  • @TheOneWhoMightBe
    @TheOneWhoMightBe Před 7 lety +586

    "We fixed that."
    I laughed till I cried, then I just cried. :(

    • @isthisnamegood
      @isthisnamegood Před 7 lety +11

      Who knows caementicium. No ones actually tried.
      They've certainly called themselves socialists before.

    • @FesteringFiesta
      @FesteringFiesta Před 7 lety +5

      Wow false equivalency much?

    • @isthisnamegood
      @isthisnamegood Před 7 lety +8

      I can call myself god emperor. It doesn't make it true. To be a socialist you kind of need to do more then call yourself one. But definitely agree with you #FeelTheBern

    • @andrewthomas695
      @andrewthomas695 Před 7 lety +9

      If only life was so simple. There is no one solution Damotour. Such an attitude is pure folly. Any ideology, taken to an extreme, results in failure, typically tragically so. When there is a real market place, capitalism works well (compare the cold war era East Germany car Trabant with West German BMWs). But capitalism applied in scenarios where there is no market is to confound the very logic of capitalism. The end result is long term supply degradation, price gouging and holding people to ransom for essential services. Horses for courses.

    • @andrewthomas695
      @andrewthomas695 Před 7 lety +10

      Nic Cage the Dick Mage Good point. The NAZIs were actuall faciasts, not socialists.

  • @Jaxymann
    @Jaxymann Před 2 lety +99

    "It was obviously going to result in lower prices to the consumer, Brian, because there were so many other players coming into the market"
    "More electricity producers?"
    "No, more billing companies, Brian, but the key element was choice, they were being offered a greater choice"
    "Choice of...what?"
    "Choice of watt?"
    "Yeah"
    "No the watts are exactly the same Brian, the choice was who you could buy them from"
    Absolute gold.

    • @deantaylor5177
      @deantaylor5177 Před rokem +3

      I see this passage as the most important one. The promise of the cure of the free market, without understanding that supply is staying the same. So we lose energy security, economies of scale and price consistency and gain profiteering and annoying TV ads.

    • @geroffmilan3328
      @geroffmilan3328 Před 10 měsíci +2

      ​@@deantaylor5177 yeah the "free market" is meant to bring competition.
      Yet it always seems to bring monopolies in different industries.

  • @mikmop
    @mikmop Před 2 lety +133

    This episode would have aired just 3 weeks before John Clarke died on 9/4/2017. RIP John. And 5 years down the track as I watch this on June 2022, it's just so prophetic. Who could have predicted that the now privatised electricity producers would be shutting down the power because it was unprofitable to supply.
    I love the line... Brian: "Who said it (the electricity system) was hopelessly inefficient??" John: "The people who wanted to buy it Brian".
    And my favourite line is... John: "It was obviously going to result in lower prices to the consumer because there were so many other players coming onto the market." Brian: "More electricity producers??" John: "No, more billing companies. But the key element was choice. They were being offered a greater choice."

    • @andyman8630
      @andyman8630 Před 2 lety +3

      greater choice!! whom do you choose to fk-ewe-up-tha-khyber?
      pass!

    • @gooble69
      @gooble69 Před 2 lety

      "Who could have predicted that the now privatised electricity producers would be shutting down the power because it was unprofitable to supply."
      Actually this was called out years ago when home produced solar generation became popular. Too much energy created in the day when no-one needs it, but you'll never hear about it on the ABC, because solar is Jesus and Fossil Fuels are Satan etc...

    • @LDU2U
      @LDU2U Před 2 lety +4

      F_cking priceless that. LOL, or should I cry, that's my choice I guess.

    • @nickmonk7945
      @nickmonk7945 Před 2 lety +2

      Thanks for making me crack up out loud again (at your comment)

  • @cascode1192
    @cascode1192 Před 2 lety +124

    Australia's finest political commentators. Greatly missed.

    • @j_sum1
      @j_sum1 Před 2 lety +3

      Kiwi actually.

    • @cascode1192
      @cascode1192 Před 2 lety +4

      @@j_sum1 My intended meaning was that they were the creators of Australia's best political commentary.

    • @j_sum1
      @j_sum1 Před 2 lety +2

      @@cascode1192 Sorry for my misinterpretation.
      Yes, greatly missed. And truly great.

    • @cascode1192
      @cascode1192 Před 2 lety +1

      @@j_sum1 👍

  • @Reoh0z
    @Reoh0z Před 2 lety +223

    I'd call it satire but here we are 5 years later and its still true.

    • @jf7243
      @jf7243 Před 2 lety +3

      Yep it’s the reality now, still, and to be real, it’s a bleeding scandal. Which of course is what you were saying.

    • @thatellipsisguy8984
      @thatellipsisguy8984 Před 2 lety +5

      No, now it’s tragedy…

    • @qibriti3220
      @qibriti3220 Před 2 lety +4

      Almost like if the population don't do something extreme about it, it'll NEVER change.

    • @timmacnamara8939
      @timmacnamara8939 Před rokem

      Six years 🤦🏻‍♂️

    • @grazie7789
      @grazie7789 Před 23 dny

      Seven years, still true

  • @AxelSpinnet
    @AxelSpinnet Před 2 lety +46

    "I'll try and imagine there is some." gets me every time.

  • @expiredmilk3390
    @expiredmilk3390 Před 7 lety +152

    "We don't have a system, we have a market."

    • @gustavalexander8676
      @gustavalexander8676 Před 2 lety +5

      I love this one its almost poetic. It also awakens the inner stalinist to the desire of a fresh round of nationalizations. We haven't seen those in too long. Hope you're doing well these five years later.

    • @gustavalexander8676
      @gustavalexander8676 Před 2 lety +7

      @David O'Halloran I was being tongue in cheek. But I agree. Any decent leftist would advocate nationalisation these days but its made out to be some stalinist fringe craze when mentioned in the public debate.

    • @caementicium284
      @caementicium284 Před 2 lety +12

      @@gustavalexander8676 Generally speaking most people don't know what a leftist is. Thanks to people like Bob Hawke and Paul Keating and every member of the Labor party since (This also equally applies to Tony Blair and the Labour party in the UK and any other derivatives) we're stuck with a choice between conservatives and neoliberals. Which are ultimately just the same at the end of the day. The main distinction is that conservatives have given up being the tiny bit subtle with their grift that neoliberals are, and instead appeal to nostalgic social concepts roughly 20 to 30 years old as of each time they freshly state their opinion. They don't function differently in any meaningful capacity.
      And with zero legitimate leftist representation left within the political discussion you have people who interpret neoliberals as leftists because despite being deeply economically right-wing, they're slightly more left than the other guys so "those must be the leftists." Most democratically elected individuals are also either just as ignorant as this as the public, or psychopathic enough to feign ignorance.
      The premier of South Australia spoke on radio today regarding the energy crisis and while doing a good job of outlining how privatization got us where we are today, he immediately discounted nationalization as a possibility. Which on one level is fair, it'd be political suicide and the neoliberal and conservative tag-team have successfully done enough to doom us to eventually collapse by now, in that government budgets no longer have enough flexibility to do things that result in positive future outcomes(like nationalization). It's just a good honest admission from a neoliberal that they are not a leftist. Unfortunately the average Australian does not understand this admission and will continue to misinterpret political reality.
      It is also worth observing that we're buried so deep at this point that provisions within national and international law enforce exploitation of the public, in that to nationalize without providing reimbursement to the private owners of anything is more or less recognized as a crime nearly the world over.
      But nobody should forget that there is zero provision forcing private interests to reimburse the public when they inevitably fail(Which usually also rewards them with additional public funding).
      It's a one-way street, we're lying face down on the bitumen after the last car hit us and the next driver we'll collide with already has his foot on the accelerator.

    • @gooble69
      @gooble69 Před 2 lety

      @David O'Halloran "You dont need to be a Stalinist to think nationalisation of essential industries is a good idea."
      Well you do ... who decides what is essential?
      Just a rational Australian."
      'Rational' isn't something you just claim, it is something you demonstrate. You seem to have missed that part out...

    • @gooble69
      @gooble69 Před 2 lety

      @@gustavalexander8676 "Any decent leftist would advocate nationalisation these days but its made out to be some stalinist fringe craze when mentioned in the public debate."
      Because it is exactly that. The energy issue has less to do with ownership and more to do with government subsidies for certain generation types over others. It's hardly a free market when the government interferes to artificially favour the less reliable energy generation types...But this is they ABC, why would you expect any balanced reporting...

  • @MichaelLopresto
    @MichaelLopresto Před 7 lety +183

    RIP John Clarke. You were one of the greats. You will be sorely missed. We need you now more than ever.

  • @JesseSkates11
    @JesseSkates11 Před 7 lety +355

    "The Watt's are the same" hahaha

  • @TmanUtube
    @TmanUtube Před 2 lety +29

    This could be just as relevant in 50s years time, let alone 5 years ago. I really miss these 2 gentlemen.❤

  • @1slandB0y77
    @1slandB0y77 Před 2 lety +53

    The more things change, the more they stay the same. This is still relevant and on-point 5 years after the fact...

  • @pinballsmile
    @pinballsmile Před 7 lety +58

    Rest peacefully, Mr John Clarke. Thank you for your wonderful comedy. Condolences to your family and friends, and to Mr Bryan Dawe xx

  • @David-lr2vi
    @David-lr2vi Před 2 lety +51

    I see nothing has changed with the “energy market”. Still as relevant today as it was 5 years ago!

  • @kushantaiidan
    @kushantaiidan Před 7 lety +36

    What the fuck. They haven't aged. I was watching these geniuses when i was like 5 in the 80's and they are still going. The universe is a better place thanks to Clarke and Dawe.

  • @SilentHotdog28
    @SilentHotdog28 Před rokem +10

    "Choice of what?"
    "No the watts were exactly the same Bryan." Bloody gold.

  • @betkay1018
    @betkay1018 Před 2 lety +27

    I dont know how they managed to do it all those years ago but they sure had a knack of realizing how nothing was going to improve ... Rather the opposite really - just loved this classic duo and still do !!

  • @pacman970
    @pacman970 Před 2 lety +5

    I remember watching this shit with my dad when I was younger and thinking it was boring as fuck. Today was the first day I found an episode of Clarke and Dawe funny. I must be growing up.

  • @bupkissbananaband3237
    @bupkissbananaband3237 Před 2 lety +8

    "no, more billing companies" XD that's one of the funniest thing I've ever heard

  • @frednutz1604
    @frednutz1604 Před 4 lety +17

    And it's still happening.
    These two are brilliant.

  • @lynlockrey7372
    @lynlockrey7372 Před 7 lety +22

    Brilliant again fellas. You hit on watts at the heart of it.

  • @gwm2015
    @gwm2015 Před 2 lety +14

    "The watts were exactly the same, the choice was in who you could buy them from"🤣

  • @Johnnralph
    @Johnnralph Před 7 lety +14

    Rip : John Clarke (29 July 1948 - 9 April 2017)

  • @bolge7777
    @bolge7777 Před 2 lety +11

    Awesome sketches, John was a one of a kind and I can't believe how long it took me to realise he was Fred Dagg also... 👍👍 Sorely missed.

    • @gedsoft3793
      @gedsoft3793 Před 2 lety +1

      I was lucky, spent 1975 in EnZed and witnessed Dagg at his peak. Explaining how to install the new TV aerials on the roof, in gumboots, with a bar heater (because winter). This was just a regular PSA. I was impressed :D

  • @teche1986
    @teche1986 Před 2 lety +7

    "More billing companies" is absolutely bang on.

  • @barbarapotter8698
    @barbarapotter8698 Před 2 lety +6

    this is so spot on it makes me weep...

  • @dfortini1056
    @dfortini1056 Před rokem +2

    2023 - gone but not forgotten, RIP John!

  • @SeniorTripod
    @SeniorTripod Před 9 měsíci +1

    Of all the segments these two did - this has always been among my favorites.

  • @stevesoo8484
    @stevesoo8484 Před 4 lety +9

    "The watts are the same"
    You have earned my sub.

  • @welcomestranger
    @welcomestranger Před 7 lety +4

    RIP John. Thanks for joining us.

  • @i_am_ergo
    @i_am_ergo Před 7 lety +37

    Clarke and Dawe belong in a dictionary as an illustration for Satire.

  • @mattwarwick8135
    @mattwarwick8135 Před 5 měsíci

    I had forgotten all about these champions and am now happily going back through them.

  • @DRAFM1610
    @DRAFM1610 Před 7 lety +6

    Certain to be one of their masterpieces and a perfect summary of being screwed

  • @MyJak68
    @MyJak68 Před 7 lety +5

    Oh how he will be sooo missed. GOLD

  • @graemesmith2742
    @graemesmith2742 Před 2 lety +1

    Spot on as usual, taped a short while back but still comes up every now and again

  • @BB-pg2lg
    @BB-pg2lg Před 7 lety +45

    Having worked in the Energy Market I can verify this is all true.

  • @marlboro-manmat295
    @marlboro-manmat295 Před 7 lety +17

    We had the problem of cheap electricity in New Zealand until Max Bradford fixed it.

  • @58deluxe8
    @58deluxe8 Před 2 lety +2

    That about sums it up. Right on target. 5 years later we can see the wisdom of what he was saying.

  • @ducatirottie
    @ducatirottie Před 7 lety +7

    Beyond hilarious! these 2 are the best!

  • @jmorton201
    @jmorton201 Před 2 lety +1

    And here we are again

  • @asdonut
    @asdonut Před 2 lety +5

    This is just as applicable now: frightening and still very funny.

  • @Coolsomeone234
    @Coolsomeone234 Před 2 lety +2

    HOW DOES IT REMAIN SO DAMN ACCURATE.
    Screw privatisation

  • @fredleong3986
    @fredleong3986 Před 11 měsíci

    We need the brilliant satirists like John and Bryan more than ever. They were without peer and sorely missed .

  • @cicada784
    @cicada784 Před 3 lety +3

    Texas getting a taste of this now

  • @DansModelBench
    @DansModelBench Před 3 lety +3

    Still relevant today

  • @richspivey1553
    @richspivey1553 Před 7 lety +43

    Its very funny and yet I can't seem to laugh.

  • @rzbr00
    @rzbr00 Před 2 lety +2

    And still so relevant today

  • @neillickfold
    @neillickfold Před 7 lety +5

    How on earth does John keep a straight face. Just so funny.

    • @betkay1018
      @betkay1018 Před 2 lety

      And Brian so capable and sincere in batting it back to him - both so sorely missed like great mentors !!

    • @Celtic_Thylacine
      @Celtic_Thylacine Před rokem

      How does he do it? He permits himself the slightest little glint in his eye. It is a joy to behold when he does.

  • @nicholaswatson3896
    @nicholaswatson3896 Před 2 lety +2

    I surprised this channel doesn't have more subscribers, you two are hilarious. 🤣

    • @SamMoffatt
      @SamMoffatt Před 2 lety

      Probably on account of one of them being dead and no new content. Not much point subscribing.

  • @scottyplife32
    @scottyplife32 Před 6 měsíci

    These guys are the best
    Pointing out the corruption and hypocricy in a humours way

  • @davexb6595
    @davexb6595 Před 3 lety +3

    Came here for comedy. Got a perfectly accurate summary of the topic.

  • @MsSilver41
    @MsSilver41 Před 2 lety +1

    If only john was still here in 2022

  • @mattdening647
    @mattdening647 Před 2 lety +6

    its hilarious, tragic and so sad all at the same time...

  • @AnnieGrace777
    @AnnieGrace777 Před 2 lety +1

    Best show ever

  • @ProffessorYellow
    @ProffessorYellow Před rokem

    2023 and Clark and Dawe are no-less relevant. Love it.

  • @johnaiken457
    @johnaiken457 Před 2 lety +1

    This is brilliant

  • @liam3284
    @liam3284 Před 2 lety +2

    This is what happenned yesterday.

  • @spootot
    @spootot Před 7 lety +20

    The truth hertz

  • @sunydigital
    @sunydigital Před 7 lety +20

    Not just Australian Energy Policy. Thanks Reagan and other "free marketers." Can you say Enron.

  • @chrismiddleton9088
    @chrismiddleton9088 Před rokem

    Brilliant and how relevant today!

  • @tommoloney9363
    @tommoloney9363 Před 2 lety

    This is a gem, so relevant today. 😎
    Pierre

  • @tylertheultimatebadass87
    @tylertheultimatebadass87 Před 7 lety +14

    Put that guy in a political position and he'd blend in perfectly
    We wouldn't even know he was there

    • @benwilson6145
      @benwilson6145 Před 3 lety +2

      Except they appear to know whats happening, unlike a politician.

  • @MseeBMe
    @MseeBMe Před 2 lety +2

    Geez I miss John Clarke.

  • @Chris.Davies
    @Chris.Davies Před rokem

    We don't know how lucky we are!
    We don't know how propitious are the circumstances!
    RIP, Fred Dagg!

  • @mickhealy572
    @mickhealy572 Před 4 lety +6

    They have a great way of saying the aussie people got bent over and screwed ..

  • @cyrilusly
    @cyrilusly Před 24 dny

    The best satire double act. All videos exploit the systems loopholes

  • @frogmouth
    @frogmouth Před 2 lety +2

    Still spot on

  • @sonicyou2007
    @sonicyou2007 Před 7 lety +7

    Government policy is take as much credit as you can when things are good and going well... and when things aren't - Blame Labor, Blame Renewables.

    • @margaretarmstrong2445
      @margaretarmstrong2445 Před 2 lety

      Five years later and they are pushing the renewables even harder in Australia. Five years later and it has become evident, at least in their own countries, that renewables are a disaster in the Northern Hemisphere.

  • @tonycittadini7761
    @tonycittadini7761 Před rokem

    I always laughed watching these. Now just cry at the loss of such a talent

  • @DandamanV
    @DandamanV Před 2 lety

    I can't believe how relevant this is...

  • @staceyreck4382
    @staceyreck4382 Před 7 lety

    I miss these guys..... Amazing.

  • @gregorysagegreene
    @gregorysagegreene Před 6 měsíci

    I remember in the bottom of the U.S. recession in 2010, selling electricity biller changes door to door in Queensland. One poor old woman was crying to me that she already had an Indian coerce her to swap over three times.

  • @sabbathguy1
    @sabbathguy1 Před 2 lety

    I'm glad nothing's changed in the 5 years since this was published

  • @goodkawz
    @goodkawz Před 3 lety +2

    2021-03-16. USA
    Oh my! I think I understand our new US energy policy now.

  • @MrButtonpresser
    @MrButtonpresser Před 2 lety

    So very very prescient in 2022!

  • @Watchyn_Yarwood
    @Watchyn_Yarwood Před rokem

    So very true, in America anyway, today! Just read an article trying to explain high natural gas prices in the US being caused by exports. The statement was "we are exporting natural gas and importing higher prices".

  • @NathanNostaw
    @NathanNostaw Před 7 lety

    Well, I'm glad that's all cleared up now. Clear as mud. One of those crying and laughing moments,.

  • @allanpan1300
    @allanpan1300 Před 7 lety +2

    spot on analysis

  • @pooopile
    @pooopile Před 7 lety +6

    "Wal Socket" LMAO

  • @ccv6741
    @ccv6741 Před 2 lety

    This is GOLD!

  • @martinhastingsis
    @martinhastingsis Před 2 lety

    WELL said FRED. R.I.P Trev

  • @ComaDave
    @ComaDave Před 7 lety +4

    R.I.P. Fred Dagg. :'(

  • @alimod3530
    @alimod3530 Před 5 lety +38

    Working as an energy trader and forecaster, I can tell you that the market is rigged

  • @hummer3694
    @hummer3694 Před 2 lety

    Thanks Brian. Brian...thank you Brian.

  • @stephenreeds3632
    @stephenreeds3632 Před 3 lety +1

    Thatcher's arguments perfectly explained.

  • @rhodaborrocks1654
    @rhodaborrocks1654 Před rokem

    The lights going off like that is something we experience in South Africa all the time on a daily scheduled basis. Our government policy is to pillage the coffers until the lights won't go on at all.

  • @johnnyboy562
    @johnnyboy562 Před 7 lety

    oh my god how have i never heard of these two before

  • @Zantsui
    @Zantsui Před 7 lety

    yeah this needs to come back.

  • @droopz90iroc
    @droopz90iroc Před 2 lety

    "Choice of Watt?" gets me every damn time.

  • @stephenburrell7645
    @stephenburrell7645 Před 2 lety

    5 years later,10 years later...prophetic.

  • @MrBernardthecow
    @MrBernardthecow Před 2 lety

    This is Mastermind meets Yes Prime Minister. Brilliant videos.

  • @boboften9952
    @boboften9952 Před 2 lety

    Truth , Tragedy , Torment .
    William Shakespeare
    would be proud of this pair .
    John Clark , Brian Dawe .

  • @closertothetruth9209
    @closertothetruth9209 Před 2 lety

    one of the best exports of NZ i miss this guy on the abc news .this is like the last two years , smoke and mirrors, the rich feeding the rich.

  • @df4250
    @df4250 Před 2 lety +1

    So bloody prophetic. So bloody true. So bloody ludicrous.

  • @senatorbabet
    @senatorbabet Před rokem

    Timeless.

  • @chuckswaim
    @chuckswaim Před 2 lety

    It reminds me of the old Abbott and Costello skit “Who’s on First?” 🤠👍✨

  • @IamKlaus007
    @IamKlaus007 Před 2 lety

    Tongue in cheek sarcasm from a kiwi icon....can't beat it.

  • @michaelellis8726
    @michaelellis8726 Před 2 lety +1

    Never more relevant than today