my power steering gave out months ago but my pulley finally broke off last week. you literally are my saving grace im so glad youtube showed me something useful for once.
Pontiac people. 97 GTP blew up. Now 99 gonna be GTP when I change over the supercharger. CZcams helped me with the AC compressor and you with the power steering. I'm a 35-year carpenter. Not a mechanic. But I did it. Thank you.
Glad I was able to help, good job on the repair! I'm a Pontiac guy as well, my first car in high school was a 93 GP with the 3.4 DOHC. What I would do to have that car today!
I'm trying to replace the high pressure hose. Have any tips on get that loose on other side. I finally got up in there and broke it loose. Going to buy a set of crowsfoot this morning. That's a tight space. I can't feel my hands this morning.
@@TruthLiesAmerica Yea it's a tight fit for sure in there. Crowsfoot to break loose and stubby wrench is going to be your best bet. Here are a few stubby wrench sets that I have had for many years ( amzn.to/45y9F7x or amzn.to/4emiRzE ). Good luck!
Glad you liked it! My goal in my videos is to not only show how to complete these jobs but also explain every step in detail so no one is left behind. Everyone has a different level of experience, so it has always been important to me to provide as much detail as possible. Thanks again for your comment!
i like that 20ft/lbs with the open end wrench....that's how real mechanics do it. lol Thanks for the video...my 2005 Pontiac GTP has a whining p/s pump. Looks like this is next on my to-do list.
Excellent video, I'm going to change mine as soon as the pump gets here. I was wondering how to get it out of the engine compartment without removing half the engine.....lol Thanks for the video.
Thanks for the video!!! Question though, what is that plug/sensor that has to be disconnected. Broke the wire on mine while taking pump out? Any help is greatly appreciated.
Glad you liked it! I believe the plug that attaches to the back of the pump reservoir is the oil pressure sensor. When you say you broke it, if you're referring to the push pin that's no big deal you can replace it or even just zip tie it up so it doesn't hit any moving parts (serpentine belt, etc). Here are some wire loom replacements that you could use (amzn.to/3SUtIXI). If you broke the actual wire, then you either need to crimp/heat shrink the wire up or replace with a new plug. Here is the oil pressure sensor plug (amzn.to/3TjZjn4). Before replacing verify this plug goes into the oil adapter under the pump. I think it's right but without seeing car in front of me I don't remember for sure. Hope this helps, and good luck! .
I'm not sure the exact capacity, however you should be good with 1 quart. If you're also thoroughly flushing the system, you may want to get 2. Hope this helps.
The high pressure line on my Buick has a banjo bolt fitting, not like the one in this video. Can it be retrofitted with a hose with the type of fitting shown in the video? They're easier to install than the banjo/crush washer type. Thanks.
Are you talking about a line similar to this one on a Buick Lucerne (amzn.to/3svaRJP)? If so, unfortunately you won't be able to unless you retrofit a different pump as well as I believe the threads are different.
Interesting, usually turning the steering wheel will cause the most stress on the pump and will make a bad pump whine. If it was only making noise during acceleration than not sure what to make of that!
The pump will come with a new rubber o-ring that you need to install on the pressure line that goes into the pump (make sure you remove the old one). Sometimes aftermarket parts will come with a few different sizes as they are universal parts, just use the one that fits your line.
It's part of the wiring harness that attaches to the back of the pump but isn't used for the pump. If I remember correctly that wire goes to the oil pressure sensor that is right under the pump.
I broke that damn stem off the return line from the reservoir trying to flush the system, brittle plastic haha. Hope I can figure it out in time for work tommorow 😅
@vortire6040 Sorry to hear you broke the reservoir return outlet. I know the feeling doing a job that turns out to be larger job now! Notice at 7:32 ...If you ever have to remove that return hose again, try this method as that hose gets stuck sometimes. Just pry gentle till it pops loose then you will be able to remove easily. Good luck!
@TeamDIYNow haha it's okay! I appreciate it. I got the new pump, installing it now. That pressure line nut is seized on, got a little damaged when I first tried to break it. Too afraid to touch it now as I don't want to round it 😅 I'm letting it soak in penitrating oil after hitting it with some heat. Edit: bolt on the top broke while I torqued it down... fun times.
Yes on the pump side there should only be 1 o-ring on the high pressure line. The return line at the pump only uses hose clamp. On the other end of those lines that goes to the power steering rack you will have an o-ring on both lines.
I’m going to have to replace this soon, it whines like crazy! I’m worried there’s a leak in the high pressure line somewhere and I have to replace that too!!
Not unless you see something visually on the line where it's leaking, I would just start with the pump. When I do power steering racks on a 3800, 100% of the time I replace the pressure and return line since it's a lot easier to change since the rack is removed (no additional labor as well since the lines are already removed from the rack). Worst case scenario, after you get pump replaced and the line is leaking just remove the pressure line from the pump and cap the reservoir so it doesn't leak all over and then replace the line. Good luck with the repair.
@@TeamDIYNow Got it done, getting it back in was definitely the hardest part but got there eventually! Also replaced the water pump. Sad coolant is leaking from somewhere in the back, praying it is not a cracked engine block
@@zombiesniper2468 Glad to hear you got the PS pump done! When you did the water pump, did you also replace that coolant elbow right above it? Check that elbow, those are notorious for leaking coolant.
@@TeamDIYNow Replaced it yesterday. It’s all dry around the water pump from what I can see. I took it to a shop, I’m not great and diagnosing things haha
The one I installed on this vehicle came from O'Reilly's and was remanufactured. You can also get a new one but will be double the cost at your local parts store (Rockauto little cheaper). I recommend you don't get an Advance pump tho as I have had a handful of them whine immediately after install. I've installed maybe 5 of these O'Reilly 3800 pumps on different vehicles over the last few years and all worked great out of the box.
What did I do wrong if the steering wheel no longer wants to turn. After the install it turned almost effortlessly then out if no where it got completely stiff and is no longer allowing me to turn
Most likely there is air in the system. I would check your lines to make sure they are tight (including orings). And try to bleed again while the front tires are off the ground. Also it’s not uncommon to get a bad “new” power steering pump as most are remanufactured. It could be you did everything right but unfortunately the new pump is defective.
@@TeamDIYNow turns out it was a bad pump 😔 the shaft was crooked causing air to leak in when the pulley was spinning. The advice I'd give to everyone else is to buy a manufactured-new pump, not a reman.
@@Squiidgy Sorry to hear you had to do the job twice. Reading your initial comment, I had a feeling it was a bad pump as I unfortunately have been in that scenario before as well. Glad you got it fixed!
@@TeamDIYNow Yea, I bled it 3 tines thinking it was air. Then compacted the pulley more and it still wobbled, so I went and got a new one 🤙 great practice if anything.. If you move the coolant reservoir, you can take the pulley out from the top(on most 3800s I'd assume). The only thing you need to do from below is tighten the high pressure line.
I have never attempted to remove the pulley while the pump is still attached as it's a tight fit so I can't say for sure. The problem is most of the pulley pullers are long so they will contact the car body that is on the other side of the PS pump. If you want to pull off the pulley while the PS lines are still connected so you don't have to bleed the pump/lines then I would suggest still removing the 2 bolts holding the pump to the block. After that you can lower the pump to clear the car body and you should have clearance to use the puller tool to remove the pulley.
So let me ask you this, by viewing your video it looks like the 3800 power steering return line has the hose that goes in the pump like a insert, right. And the pressure line is more of a bolt
Correct, the hose that connects in the back of the reservoir with a hose clamp is the return line and the pressure line is the one that gets tighten down with the nut.
@@TeamDIYNow oh something else my power steering pump requires a power steering filter to be put on the pump somehow, where would that filter go? It's a 05 park avenue but I did learn from this video.
@@Jesus-rr3qc I use to have a 97 Buick Park Ave Ultra years ago (one vehicle wish I never sold!), and if I remember right the filter was in the power steering lines not the pump.
Yea I agree you can use an open-end wrench, however depending on the model you have more clearance than others especially if it has a supercharger. There are many other vehicles across manufactures that you can't use an open-end wrench and this tool will always have you covered for every single vehicle. For $45 this ratchetting serpentine belt tool that will last a lifetime and is well worth it in my opinion.
Hey, so I'm a rookie, so don't. Thank my question is too stupid, I guess.😅 But when you bleed by turning the Steering wheel back and forth That is supposed to get all the air out of the system, Because I have air in my system
Good question. Correct when you move the steering wheel back and forth (while the front wheels are off the ground and reservoir cap removed) that is supposed to remove all the air out of the system. If you did this process, and still have air I would check that your connections are tight and double check you installed the new o ring on the pressure line. If you try to bleed again and still has air in the system when done, then unfortunately you may have gotten a bad 'new' pump as most are remanufactured (hopefully not the case!).
I STRONGLY encourage removing the tension pulley. I spent 4-5 hours just trying to line up the top bolt. You can’t see at all so you have to feel the hole and the bolt. It’s an absolute shit show. Good luck 😂
The key to installing the pump is to look at the holes on the block as you position the pump. Once the pump is pressed against the block slowing move it around while pressing the bolts through the pump. You will feel it hit the threads in block which will allow you to tighten the bolts. Ive done my share of these 3800 PS pumps and can usually get installed in a few minutes. However, with that said your correct by removing the tensioner you will have more room to access the pump if your not easily able to install.
Use a drift pin in the top hole. I removed the tension pulley and could see the holes and slid a long bit in the top hole. Made lining up the bottom a snap and then got the top one after that.
@@IwaysKeepMOMMINd What I typically do, push the top bolt through the pump then press the pump against the block and slightly move around till you feel the threaded hole (by holding the bolt head you will feel once it lines up to the block threaded hole). Then hand tighten to make sure you don't cross thread while tightening. Hope this helps.
The pump will come with a new rubber o-ring that you need to install on the pressure line that goes into the pump (make sure you remove the old one). Sometimes aftermarket parts will come with a few different sizes as they are universal parts, just use the one that fits your line.
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my power steering gave out months ago but my pulley finally broke off last week. you literally are my saving grace im so glad youtube showed me something useful for once.
Glad I was able to help! Thanks for watching.
I'm sure it was a highly educated engineer who put the pump in such a convenient location 😂🤬. Nice video though 👍.
Yea its not in the best area but I have saw worse. Glad you liked the video and thanks for watching!
For sure🤯
Yep don't you love smart dummies
Pontiac people. 97 GTP blew up. Now 99 gonna be GTP when I change over the supercharger. CZcams helped me with the AC compressor and you with the power steering. I'm a 35-year carpenter. Not a mechanic. But I did it. Thank you.
Glad I was able to help, good job on the repair! I'm a Pontiac guy as well, my first car in high school was a 93 GP with the 3.4 DOHC. What I would do to have that car today!
I'm trying to replace the high pressure hose. Have any tips on get that loose on other side. I finally got up in there and broke it loose. Going to buy a set of crowsfoot this morning. That's a tight space. I can't feel my hands this morning.
@@TruthLiesAmerica Yea it's a tight fit for sure in there. Crowsfoot to break loose and stubby wrench is going to be your best bet. Here are a few stubby wrench sets that I have had for many years ( amzn.to/45y9F7x or amzn.to/4emiRzE ). Good luck!
Thank you. Have a 18mm cF on the way. I have any carpentry too anyone needs. Just basic mechanics tool.
@@TruthLiesAmerica Glad I was able to help. Good luck.
Here man, extra two thumbs up👍👍 for such a good and well explained video
Glad you liked it! My goal in my videos is to not only show how to complete these jobs but also explain every step in detail so no one is left behind. Everyone has a different level of experience, so it has always been important to me to provide as much detail as possible. Thanks again for your comment!
I have a Monte2003 Chevy Monte Carlo ss and this has been the best video yet surprisingly the Monte Carlo videos on this suck
Glad you liked it! Thanks for watching.
Got a 01 Monte ss and gotta replace it all the videos suck for us lol 😂
Excellent Video! Thank You.
Glad you liked it! Thanks for watching.
i like that 20ft/lbs with the open end wrench....that's how real mechanics do it. lol Thanks for the video...my 2005 Pontiac GTP has a whining p/s pump. Looks like this is next on my to-do list.
Yea do it enough times that 20ft lbs becomes second nature lol. Glad I was able to help, thanks for watching!
Thank you!
Glad I was able to help!
Very good thanks
Glad you liked it! Thanks for watching.
Excellent video, I'm going to change mine as soon as the pump gets here. I was wondering how to get it out of the engine compartment without removing half the engine.....lol Thanks for the video.
Glad I was able to help. Thanks for watching and good luck!
You cant . Lol
I have been trying to get mine out for 3 hours, desperately searching for answers 😢 4 other people have tried as well😭😭
Thanks gonna have to use this soon my Monte SS is whining and the reservoir is full
Glad I was able to help! Good luck with the repair.
Thanks for the video!!! Question though, what is that plug/sensor that has to be disconnected. Broke the wire on mine while taking pump out? Any help is greatly appreciated.
Glad you liked it! I believe the plug that attaches to the back of the pump reservoir is the oil pressure sensor. When you say you broke it, if you're referring to the push pin that's no big deal you can replace it or even just zip tie it up so it doesn't hit any moving parts (serpentine belt, etc). Here are some wire loom replacements that you could use (amzn.to/3SUtIXI).
If you broke the actual wire, then you either need to crimp/heat shrink the wire up or replace with a new plug. Here is the oil pressure sensor plug (amzn.to/3TjZjn4). Before replacing verify this plug goes into the oil adapter under the pump. I think it's right but without seeing car in front of me I don't remember for sure. Hope this helps, and good luck!
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@TeamDIYNow really appreciate it. It's looking like the oil pressure sensor plug!!!!!
@@bryanwashington4616 No problem, glad I was able to help.
3.8l power steering add fluid
Thanks for this , are you able to say how much power steering fluid is needed or how much fluid the system holds ?
I'm not sure the exact capacity, however you should be good with 1 quart. If you're also thoroughly flushing the system, you may want to get 2. Hope this helps.
@@TeamDIYNow thank you !
The high pressure line on my Buick has a banjo bolt fitting, not like the one in this video. Can it be retrofitted with a hose with the type of fitting shown in the video? They're easier to install than the banjo/crush washer type. Thanks.
Are you talking about a line similar to this one on a Buick Lucerne (amzn.to/3svaRJP)? If so, unfortunately you won't be able to unless you retrofit a different pump as well as I believe the threads are different.
That's the one I have now, but the pump needs replaced. Wanted to get a pump and hose like in your video to install. Thanks for the reply.@@TeamDIYNow
@@ronaldbrown4989 No problem glad I was able to help!
i have a weird one. my ps pump went out and there were no leaks or whining as you turn the wheel. just a steady whine which increased with throttle.
Interesting, usually turning the steering wheel will cause the most stress on the pump and will make a bad pump whine. If it was only making noise during acceleration than not sure what to make of that!
My pump came with two rubber rings, what are those for?
The pump will come with a new rubber o-ring that you need to install on the pressure line that goes into the pump (make sure you remove the old one). Sometimes aftermarket parts will come with a few different sizes as they are universal parts, just use the one that fits your line.
Do you know what that wire is for on the back of the pump?
It's part of the wiring harness that attaches to the back of the pump but isn't used for the pump. If I remember correctly that wire goes to the oil pressure sensor that is right under the pump.
I broke that damn stem off the return line from the reservoir trying to flush the system, brittle plastic haha. Hope I can figure it out in time for work tommorow 😅
@vortire6040 Sorry to hear you broke the reservoir return outlet. I know the feeling doing a job that turns out to be larger job now! Notice at 7:32 ...If you ever have to remove that return hose again, try this method as that hose gets stuck sometimes. Just pry gentle till it pops loose then you will be able to remove easily. Good luck!
@TeamDIYNow haha it's okay! I appreciate it. I got the new pump, installing it now. That pressure line nut is seized on, got a little damaged when I first tried to break it. Too afraid to touch it now as I don't want to round it 😅 I'm letting it soak in penitrating oil after hitting it with some heat.
Edit: bolt on the top broke while I torqued it down... fun times.
Is there just the 1 black "o" ring on the high pressure line?
Yes on the pump side there should only be 1 o-ring on the high pressure line. The return line at the pump only uses hose clamp. On the other end of those lines that goes to the power steering rack you will have an o-ring on both lines.
Thank you . that was a great video . but I can see this is going to cause some bruises and scraped knuckles .
Glad you liked it! Yea you may get a few cuts and bruises on your hands but it’s not that bad of job.
I’m going to have to replace this soon, it whines like crazy! I’m worried there’s a leak in the high pressure line somewhere and I have to replace that too!!
Not unless you see something visually on the line where it's leaking, I would just start with the pump. When I do power steering racks on a 3800, 100% of the time I replace the pressure and return line since it's a lot easier to change since the rack is removed (no additional labor as well since the lines are already removed from the rack). Worst case scenario, after you get pump replaced and the line is leaking just remove the pressure line from the pump and cap the reservoir so it doesn't leak all over and then replace the line. Good luck with the repair.
@@TeamDIYNow Got it done, getting it back in was definitely the hardest part but got there eventually! Also replaced the water pump. Sad coolant is leaking from somewhere in the back, praying it is not a cracked engine block
@@zombiesniper2468 Glad to hear you got the PS pump done! When you did the water pump, did you also replace that coolant elbow right above it? Check that elbow, those are notorious for leaking coolant.
@@TeamDIYNow Replaced it yesterday. It’s all dry around the water pump from what I can see. I took it to a shop, I’m not great and diagnosing things haha
@@zombiesniper2468 Good luck, hopefully it's something minor.
Which power steering pump did you get for it?
The one I installed on this vehicle came from O'Reilly's and was remanufactured. You can also get a new one but will be double the cost at your local parts store (Rockauto little cheaper). I recommend you don't get an Advance pump tho as I have had a handful of them whine immediately after install. I've installed maybe 5 of these O'Reilly 3800 pumps on different vehicles over the last few years and all worked great out of the box.
Do you bleed the air with the motor running or off?
Front wheels off the ground and the motor off.
What did I do wrong if the steering wheel no longer wants to turn. After the install it turned almost effortlessly then out if no where it got completely stiff and is no longer allowing me to turn
Most likely there is air in the system. I would check your lines to make sure they are tight (including orings). And try to bleed again while the front tires are off the ground. Also it’s not uncommon to get a bad “new” power steering pump as most are remanufactured. It could be you did everything right but unfortunately the new pump is defective.
@@TeamDIYNow turns out it was a bad pump 😔 the shaft was crooked causing air to leak in when the pulley was spinning.
The advice I'd give to everyone else is to buy a manufactured-new pump, not a reman.
@@Squiidgy Sorry to hear you had to do the job twice. Reading your initial comment, I had a feeling it was a bad pump as I unfortunately have been in that scenario before as well. Glad you got it fixed!
@@TeamDIYNow Yea, I bled it 3 tines thinking it was air. Then compacted the pulley more and it still wobbled, so I went and got a new one 🤙
great practice if anything.. If you move the coolant reservoir, you can take the pulley out from the top(on most 3800s I'd assume). The only thing you need to do from below is tighten the high pressure line.
Do u know on a 04 lesabre, can i take just the pulley off while still on the car
I have never attempted to remove the pulley while the pump is still attached as it's a tight fit so I can't say for sure. The problem is most of the pulley pullers are long so they will contact the car body that is on the other side of the PS pump. If you want to pull off the pulley while the PS lines are still connected so you don't have to bleed the pump/lines then I would suggest still removing the 2 bolts holding the pump to the block. After that you can lower the pump to clear the car body and you should have clearance to use the puller tool to remove the pulley.
@@TeamDIYNow appreciate it
A lot easier if you have a rear-wheel drive!
For sure it would be a lot easier if the half shaft wasn't in the way!
So let me ask you this, by viewing your video it looks like the 3800 power steering return line has the hose that goes in the pump like a insert, right. And the pressure line is more of a bolt
Correct, the hose that connects in the back of the reservoir with a hose clamp is the return line and the pressure line is the one that gets tighten down with the nut.
@@TeamDIYNow thank you
@@TeamDIYNow oh something else my power steering pump requires a power steering filter to be put on the pump somehow, where would that filter go? It's a 05 park avenue but I did learn from this video.
@@Jesus-rr3qc I use to have a 97 Buick Park Ave Ultra years ago (one vehicle wish I never sold!), and if I remember right the filter was in the power steering lines not the pump.
You can just use a 15mm box end wrench for the belt its not very hard.
Yea I agree you can use an open-end wrench, however depending on the model you have more clearance than others especially if it has a supercharger. There are many other vehicles across manufactures that you can't use an open-end wrench and this tool will always have you covered for every single vehicle. For $45 this ratchetting serpentine belt tool that will last a lifetime and is well worth it in my opinion.
I thought the same thing and 9 months later......
Assuming you got lucky and just refilled low reservoir as the slow leak wasn't enough to force pump replacement?
Hey, so I'm a rookie, so don't. Thank my question is too stupid, I guess.😅 But when you bleed by turning the Steering wheel back and forth That is supposed to get all the air out of the system, Because I have air in my system
Good question. Correct when you move the steering wheel back and forth (while the front wheels are off the ground and reservoir cap removed) that is supposed to remove all the air out of the system. If you did this process, and still have air I would check that your connections are tight and double check you installed the new o ring on the pressure line. If you try to bleed again and still has air in the system when done, then unfortunately you may have gotten a bad 'new' pump as most are remanufactured (hopefully not the case!).
I didn't have o ring on🤷🏼🤦🏼😅
@@kylebrown1866 Glad you were able to figure it out!
I STRONGLY encourage removing the tension pulley. I spent 4-5 hours just trying to line up the top bolt. You can’t see at all so you have to feel the hole and the bolt. It’s an absolute shit show. Good luck 😂
The key to installing the pump is to look at the holes on the block as you position the pump. Once the pump is pressed against the block slowing move it around while pressing the bolts through the pump. You will feel it hit the threads in block which will allow you to tighten the bolts. Ive done my share of these 3800 PS pumps and can usually get installed in a few minutes. However, with that said your correct by removing the tensioner you will have more room to access the pump if your not easily able to install.
Use a drift pin in the top hole. I removed the tension pulley and could see the holes and slid a long bit in the top hole. Made lining up the bottom a snap and then got the top one after that.
Thank you so much for making this video...🫶🏽👏🏽
Glad I was able to help. Thanks for watching!
@@TeamDIYNow how do you line up the power steering bolts that mount the power steering pump?
@@IwaysKeepMOMMINd What I typically do, push the top bolt through the pump then press the pump against the block and slightly move around till you feel the threaded hole (by holding the bolt head you will feel once it lines up to the block threaded hole). Then hand tighten to make sure you don't cross thread while tightening. Hope this helps.
My pump came with two rubber rings, what are those for?
The pump will come with a new rubber o-ring that you need to install on the pressure line that goes into the pump (make sure you remove the old one). Sometimes aftermarket parts will come with a few different sizes as they are universal parts, just use the one that fits your line.