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You can use the diode to bypass the switch so that the current will not reverse to the battery to overcharged it
My idea 😄💡👍
No bro
Because diode can not suffer current of self
I was about to type a same comment but it's already here, yeah, this will resolve the problem of using a switch and will keep the battery safe from direct charging current from engine and bms will keep doing it's work.
Kitne number ka diode or 1 diode me to ni hoga kitne lagane hai?
Rajat Anand, that's simply a BMS BYPASS SWITCH installed on the negative polarity of the BMS module, why not use two pieces of 5Amp diodes in parallel instead of a switch so that the DC charge can come directly from the battery but not go back into the battery, that way the BMS will do the charging while the line that comes through the diodes will supply the whole circuitry of the bike as well as the starter motor load. This will relieve you of using the BMS bypass switch every time you start the bike.
Greetings from Meghalaya - Shillong.
Motor jo hoti h bike wo 30-40 amp current khati h. Utna load nhi le payega diode
Hi Johan, If you bypass the BMS with Diodes then BMS is no more protecting the batteries if they over discharge.
@@syedjalaluddin3398 over discharge possibility is less if bike light is not left ON when parked. Also it is not going to cause fires.
Try Kiya tha Bhai nhi chla
Accent se hi samajh gaya that u are a bunjabi puttar... I made it a lithium ion battery that xan self start bullet all thanks to you man... Keep the good work up
isme door bell wala switch laga denge, switch daba ke self lenge aur chhodte cut ho jayega, off karne ka jhanjhat hi nahi rahega
Waah Waah Waah Waah Waah Waah Waah Waah Waah Waah Waah Waah Run too bade heavy driver ho
RIGHT
@@artiverma1527 jugaad man😂
Diode use kro 6amp ka
bell wala switch 6 amp ka hota hai, jal jayega bhai, kyunki bike ka self 20-30 amp leta hai, 😅😅
Use lifepo4 3.2 volt 6ah.(3C battery)
Make it to 4 string and 2 parallel(4S2P configuration)
so total 12.8 volt 12 ah battery (14.8 maximum volt) pack as normal as lead acid battery.
Can use them without bms because keep it connected without any switch as like lead acid battery. It will not deep discharge as the bike always replenishes the battery by charging while riding.
And more importantly use a clamp meter to any of the battery main lead wire to check the amp flow during self start. Most of the bike takes more than 50 amps to crank. My thunderbird takes over 100amp instantaneous current.
- if you chose a bms for a lifepo4 battery then chose it something has 50 amp or higher rating one.
- charge and discharge same terminal bms
Or if you don't have 3.2 lifepo4 battery then use 18650 4 string battery pack (4S2P or 3P)
Maximum vehicles alternator voltage after rectification is set to 14.8. So end charging volt of 3.7 pack is 4.2 volt (4.2 × 4= 16.8).
Since alternator is set to 14.4 or 14.8, battery will charge and remains in 14.8 volt it will not go higher. Or use a it with lithium iron bms 50 amp or higher.
Please do not use 11.1 pack 12.6 one because we might forget to toggle the switch after use. Or use a diode.
## So, best way use high drain batteries
4S2P - (32650 or 32700) 3 or higher C rated batteries to make 12.6 volt normal and 14.8 end volt batteries either with bms (charge and discharge same terminal bms) or without bms
with
## 18650 high drain batteries (drill batteries, not laptop batteries or generic ones) 15amp or higher
Eg LG chem batteries HG2 ones have 20 amp continuous discharge rating
Or samsung 25 R or 30 Q rated batteries
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Vai love from Bangladesh
Thanks for this comment.
Sir,150cc bike self Start हो सकती क्या ?
उसके लिए कोनसे po4 cells कितने और BMS लगाऊ ?
🙏🙏🙏🙏
Which lifepo4 cells to use for 4s configuration battery to start bike? Brand names and model numbers please?
how it will be if you use a (diode) in the place of the switch
you can use simply push button instead of On/Off. so there is no chance of mistake if you forget to turn off switch or use the 10A diode in reverse polarity to charging circuit.
Can we use 15v bms instead of 12v because pulsar charger gives 14v output to the battery for charging?
Good
U have exposed every thing/doubt. There are many u tubers who conseal things.but in your case every thing is open and clear. Keep it up.
Being a technical person i have a suggestion
Mount a push to on switch near the bike starte button in the approach of your thumb . Operate a 12 volt relay through this push button, mount this relay in place of your power on/off sw.in this way u need not to switch off and on .if u like idea ,I can send u wiring diagram. If there is any con , must share.
Hello, after installation at 12v 8ah Lithium-ion battery, BMS is showing proper volts at all connections, but at the output, it shows only 5.2 volts, what could be the cause?? please guide
I think problem is not limitation of BMS but cells having high internal resistance. The 3S 40A balanced BMS supplies 80A peak current. But the 1C 1200mah 18650 6Ah pack will give only 6Ah * 1C = 6A starting current. In Robu Orange 15C 18650s are available. 1500mah 15C 18650 cell costs about 210₹. I will try and tell in my 150CC Yamaha bike. I think on cranking the BMS is experiencing low voltage condition because of 1C batteries with high internal resistance and cutting off.
Use lithium phosphate. And to skip bms for starting system. Isolate the starter relay wire and hook it directly to the battery. There should be thinner wire that power the rest of the bike and the charging system that should be connected to the bms.
brother battery bms has overcharge protection and short protection .why add swatch?
I used 25 ah 3 s board with 21 cells... But one issue that the bms shuts off the power after self and the i have to unplug and replug the wire... I guess i have to use 2 switches
Sir abhi wo battery properly work kar rahi hai please comment 1:41
Switch ki jagah aap heavy apms ka diode bhi use kar sakte ho. Jisse cut off automatic ho jayega. Current sirf ek hi direction me flow kareg. Aur cells directly charge nahi honge. Agar aisa karoge to video jarur banana.
Hi. I have pulsar 150cc with 12v 9ah battery. Can you please suggest how many batteries and bms i have to ise
Hi bro, wanted to install same mechanism for my activa. Need your help
What happen to new BMS you have ordered? Waiting for that video
how about now? still working?
Please share previous video link
Where explain circuit board of BMS
I send you so many questions before also but I found you don't answer my any question
I am just sharing my knowledge with you as you said in your video
Great job bhai aapane Achcha Tarika bataya Maine Bhi Apne bike mein battery Laga Li Sahi kam kar rahi🙏🙏🙏💐💐💐
There can be many ways doing things, but as you said the knowledge shared is of prime value. Well done bro.
Diod laga sakte he kya kyu ki uska flow ek taraf hi hota he
Thunderbird ke liye bana raha hu..kya chal payegi
Battery will be heated due to engine heat. Not sure it will be safe or not
Bai old lifepo4 battery ko kha sell kre
12 years use krne ke baad
Delay circuit se kaam ho jayega on/off switch ki zarurat nahi padegi. I have seen this delay circuit hack in another video.
220 ki self kitna amphere leti hai start karne me
Mere pass me 2200 mah ki he splendor nxg me laga du to kharab to nhi ho ga ya jal to nhi jayegi
You can use a Delay Timer Circuit based on NE555 IC insted of the switch. Connect the power input to this circuit from the Magnet coil of the bike so that the circuit gets On only after the bike starts. Set the delayed tme to 15 or 20 sec. or as you wish to. Add Another Horn Or Heavy Amp. relay in the output of the Timer Circuit though you can connect the Direct Negative port to the Charging Line (which you have presently done) this way it will aytomatically do the switching off. The Idea is Simple
Tmer Circuit is Switched OFF Relay is ON (Self getting Direct Battery (-)Ve.
Bike Starts Time Circuit gets power, Sends power to Relay after desired delay.
Relay Cuts Off the direct (-)Ve connection from the Battery.
Now the battery is through BMD only & Safe.
Believe me I have done the same thing in my Royel Enfield Thunderbird 350X.
Yes, I had to change the Charger.... but that's a different story.
Nice & Honest Video.❤👍
so, we can use a press switch near self to make easy.
same content with small change.
appreciated your hard work.
You can use the diode to bypass the switch so that the current will not reverse to the battery to overcharged it
Bhai li-lion battery scooty keliye kaise bnaye 3s 20A m chlega bhai..Safe rahega battery
Bhai kaun sa bms use kare jisme switch na lagana pade
Sir bms pe 40amp likha rehta hai to wo 40 amp nai rahta kya???
Bike self start ni horha kia hm 12v 70ah ki battrry use krskte hain check krme k lie
Ab kesa kam kar rha h
Bhai self-starter ke switch ke sath parallel join krdo bms bypass wire
Bhaiya lithium ion battery bike ke liye thik rahega Kya heating to nahi hoga n ya kuchh problem to nahi hoga n bike ko. Please reply Kare. Thanks
Brother is this battery still working?
Why not use a relay instead of the switch which comes on when you press the starter switch. Or use the starter relay directly
Good idea 💡
Bro jo app 40 ampere bms ko 4 ampere bta rhe hain wo 40 ka hi hota hai , or self ka starting peak current upto 60-70 ampere tak ho sakta hai aapne self ki wire ki size dekha hi hoga , apni lead acid battery peak current easily provide kar deti hai bms nhi karta due to safety , you can use super capacitor but they costly
Swich me daode lagadeto?
20 amp bms se salega na
I have idea to by pass bms so you can edit by one rezister or capasitor to by pass bms
Hi friend use diode instead of switch so it will help to stop reverse voltage.
Hello bro kya abhi Tak bhi chal rhi hai kya ye battery ?
स्विच के जगह पर सेल्फ रिले लगा सकते है
इसमें BMS न चेंज कर के बैटरी का एम्पियर बढ़ा दे तो सेल्फ स्टार्टिंग की प्रॉब्लम खत्म नहीं हो सकेगी??
bike k rectifier say charging main problem aati hai bms all cells ko charge nahin karta.
Ower charging ka switch ha kya
Bhai, switch ka jhanjhad hatana ho to kaisa krna honga
And also thankx for your review on li-ion battery.
Welcome bro
Kisee nay diode laga kar try kia? Agar kia hay tu please share karo kia result mila?
Sir mne bhi bnai thi spl+ k liye ak din baiya chali lekin fir kaam nahi ki pta nahi kya huwa battery k volltage bhi pure hai plz give me some suggestions plz 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Can you give 15 amp switch diagram in pen drawing
Wanted to share pictures but i guess there is no such options available here
Rajat bhai battery chal rahi hai ki blast hogayi gaadi ki humbhi bana rahe hai isiliye confirm krrahe
Bhai may nay banaya hai BMS be laga hua hai prr battery 🔋 bike se charge nahi ho rahi
Bhai self starter switch me modification kro or ak switch do Kam kr sake start ka bhi or on off ka bhi
Use 2 pole relay and operate relay for direct terminal with self button
Then totally save no use button
Hi
I have made Lithium ion battery of 12.6v,6amp. Used material 3x4 lithium ion battery, 3s 40amh bms board. When I have connected it to my Honda Activa automatically my current stops and failed to start. Light and horn works fine only starting is not done. Can you suggest please.I have tried bypass also.
6amp bms not enough power try with 100amp bms or with direct battery connection you need you need to modify the switch and for reverse current protection to your battery you can buy jumpstart connection cable separately it has reverse current protection from the alternator... Do connect separately bms to the main wire voltage regulator rectifier for lighting and charging the battery... Do separate the wire of alternator and startar motor.... direct connect battery and give any extra switch for protection
kon sa bms h
Hi bro car main kitny amp ky liye battry pak ho
Just add 10 to 100uf capacitor after current sence resistance (shunt) to increase time of cut over discharge current (like 40A BMS). No machanical switch No Diodes needed
Bms kitna ka mngaye
Battery k parallel ma 4700uF (or more) 25 V k kuch capacitor parallel ma laga k b kam challa saktay hain. Battery pa ziada load b nai prhy ga aur BMS ko bypass krnay ki zaroorat b nai.
Diode try kiye the
Samar experiment wala jhuth bol raha hai... Car start karke dikhayi usne...without direct connection... Thanks for this fair video
Samar's projects are not that reliable but you can get new ideas and you should improve for real life implementation. But he is still good.
Agar hum 4 cell series main conect kre ( without bms) to vo over charge nhi honge na.......???
(without bms)
3.7 * 4 =14.8....ideal value
4.2 *4 = 16. 8...maximum voltage
Agar bike 14-15 (16) volt charging voltage nikale gi to kya cell chage honge.? ... Suppose 15/4 =3.75volt to each cell. Or 16/4=4volt each cell ( without bms) kya hum battery ko ise use kr sakte hain??????????
Hongay overcharge 🙁
@@pubgnoobspro2513 or agar hum... Aapne jo " switch lagaya uski jgh" agr sabse acha ( 20 amp / 30 amp) vala diode laga de to kam ban jayega kya.... ( with bms)
@@statusalltime1202 10 amp ka diode laga do sub say best yahee hay.
If I use 4 cells with almost 14.6 volts than switch is needed??
Yes bro because the ampere is not enough from bms if you have a higher amp bms then you may should not put switch
भाई आपको switch लगाने की जरूरत नही पड़ती. Bike में self के लिए अलग से connection जाता है और light , horn के लिए अलग से connection जाता है. तो आपको self के connection को direct और light horn के connection को BMS से कर देना चाहीए था...
Charging band krne ka liya ha switch
Rajat bhai, I've assembled a same battery as yourself And hacked the Negetive cable as well err. But my Hero glamour 125 cc self is not working. , I've done same tosame as yours . Would you mind showing thoes batteries by unwraping please and Yes when I rave it up the multimeter is showing 13.2 even. The bms is Same as yours 40 amp, 12.6 v .I would like to send the pics of the battery but ..
Bro contact me on insta - rjtrajatanand
3.7 into 4 series me banano hogi total14.8volt
Bhai sahab aap battery ke circuit Mein bypass Karke switch laga diye Hain vah koi bhi samajh jaega Agar 40 empier Mein direct start Karke bataen
bhot achi video banai apna
Bhai ek baat bola h ki bhai ek mini dc voltage meter laga do handle ke pass q ki battery show karte rahe q ki ham ko pata chalte rahe battery jyada charging toh nhi ho raha h
Bhai button ki jagaha aap relay lagalo self ki aati h
Bhai bms or switch ki diagram dijiye samaj me nahi aaraha hai
brother in this video you are showing that it can be possible by using a Lithium polymer batteries
intra motorcycles
but there is a problem that every time we start power ignition and push the self start button automatically it just discharged
I never turned on
so there is a small solution I think I can help with that
the solution is
first locate the contact Relay of the motorcycle
Then you'll sell two big conectors that screwed with the contact relay
if you look closely you will notice two wires are coming from the push start self button
just locate the connection and adjust a 12 volt relay
to replace the switch that you are placing on the side of a battery
brother if you are not understand please contact me
गाडी। से। कितने एपयील। बनाता। हे। तेज। करने। पर
Diode use krlijye bro
I need this bms buy link
Jxi functioning minimums
Shayad apko pata nhi h Bhai bms me overcharge, over discharge, over current, short circuit protection sab hoti hai. Extra switch ki jarurat nhi h. Kuch kuch bms me over temperature protection bhi hoti h.
Apko 6amp ki battery banayi to apko max max to 10 amp bms hi use krni thi. 20 amp bahut jayada ho gya. Or sab li ion cell ki charge discharge cycle fix hoti h. Iske baad uski backup kam hone lagti h. Jaise ye sasti wali battery ki 200-300cycle tak hoti h. Koshish kre ki 1000cycle wale 18650 battery buy kre. Or 18650 me 2200 mah ki achchhi hoti h.
thanks bro
Ya kam charging toh nhi ho raha h
Now 60a BMS is available in the market.. no need switch modification
Jab bike aur battery ke bich switch laga ke off kr de rahe ho tb bike me power kha se ja rahi hai jo light jal rahi hai .Yha to circuit break ho gya na .To na power jayegi aur bike chalu hone pe charge bhi nahi hogi
Bhai jo power light me ja rahi he vo bms ke through ja rahi hee
Bhai 30a bms ke output pe relay use karo bms bypass karne ke liye , usse hoga ye jab bhi battery under voltage jayegi bms off hoga jisse relay bhi band hogi, is tarh hum low bms se bhi aache ampear le sakte hai
Only for invertor
Thank me later
correct
@naushad can u pls give me diagram pla
@@Sekhar_Home yaha kaise dun bhai
@Nashad Khan bro many b 12v 20 amp ka pack benaya hai ap automatic ka beta rahy thay wo kasy hoga
Vai appo switch badla 25 amp ka diod used kar na chaia tha
vai wire ko thora lamba karo handle me ak push button switch lagalo self ki tarah
Bro i am using 4 lithium cells in series on my splendor which gives 2.5 amp and its without bms theres is stock 2.5 amp battery becos am using roots megasonic horns i installed them bcos jb ratt ko horn bajate the them sari led lights blink krti but now its fantastic but without bms ab tk vo lithium cells perfect work kr rahe never over heated and charge bhi proper ho rhe hai 13.80 to 14 volt. will they cause probelm in future if used without bms?? baki ab tkk to koi problem nhi ai am using it from 2 months 👍👍 and bro pls mention ur insta link iwant to discuss something ..
Bhai m bhi 4 cell series me use kr raha hu without bms ....koi problem nahi aarahi h ...lekin battery only 12% he charge rahti h ....kyoki ik cell ko 4.2 chahea charge hone k lea ...16.8 total ...leking byke 14.60 he deti h to 3.6v milta h ik cell ko ....jo cell ko charge he nahi hone deta ...bus cell ik capacitor ki tarah kaam krta h ....
Blast hota h aise hi bms nahi use krne par
अगर 2 PN diode से बॅटरी डायरेक्ट जोड दिया जाए तो बिना BMS बैटरी से ऊर्जा प्राप्त हो सकती है और सिर्फ़ चार्जिंग BMS के माध्यम से होगी।
Bhai 1 heavy vala bell switch lagao
Sari problem soul
Sell lagane k sath press karo oto off 👍🏻👍🏻
Without BMS circuit, lithium battery will damaged, due to overcharge 😅😅
Mai nay to BMS lagaya hai battery 🔋 mai bike mai install kia hai prr bike se charge nahi ho rahi what is the problem
Switch ki jagh polarity dekh k 2 6A k diode lga de
Battery b charge ho jaygi aur self b lg jayga
Swich wala connection clearly batayen.
Dc fan chalane k liye Konsi batteey lu
Lead acid
Lithium ion
Solar
Tubler
Reply plz
Lithium ion best 👍