Budget Storage Server 2021! | 80TB NAS

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  • čas přidán 30. 05. 2024
  • Welcome to my latest video featuring an 80TB storage server I put together for around $1500. Let me know what you think in the comments below!
    Video sources mentioned:
    Craft Computing Server Video: • A 12-Bay, 1U Storage S...
    JuanMTech Unraid Tutorial: • How to set up Unraid (...
    ArcadeAdam 16TB External Drive Video: • How to get a 16 TERABY...
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  • @nixietubes
    @nixietubes Před 2 lety +759

    Drive manufacturers don't overstate their drive size, just that they measure in terrabytes (1000/TB) and windows measures in tebibytes (1024/TiB)

    • @nayfin404
      @nayfin404 Před 2 lety +68

      This needs to be pinned. I had forgotten this and I'm sure there's plenty more that have never heard about TiB.

    • @FlexibleToast
      @FlexibleToast Před 2 lety +54

      Not only that but even just putting a filesystem on there has overhead. A portion of that space will be used for things like page files and meta data.

    • @nixietubes
      @nixietubes Před 2 lety +5

      @@FlexibleToast Sometimes yeah

    • @taranullius9221
      @taranullius9221 Před 2 lety +4

      I was just thinking about this today! Shower thought "an 8GB USB should be made to have 8.x if they're going to take up some space with whatever is in there that I don't understand (MBR? I don't freaking know) that makes the capacity lower it's false advertising". Interesting to know thanks.

    • @pixlhound
      @pixlhound Před 2 lety +16

      @@taranullius9221 indeed I can understand why you would think so, but to confuse further, format that same drive with an appropriate file system to work on a Mac pc for example and the drive will show as an 8gb usb. I am fairly sure this is something that was fought in the courts a long time ago (Circa Windows 98/200/XP era) and the drive manufacturers managed to successfully defend their position by essentially blaming Microsoft for using the wrong capacity standard.

  • @CazRaX
    @CazRaX Před 2 lety +22

    I know this is old but the USB drive for UnRaid can go directly into the motherboard inside the case. That is what the two USB ports on the right side of the motherboard is for, needs a smaller profile drive but makes it so you can't accidentally break it.

  • @cmiller6352
    @cmiller6352 Před 2 lety +230

    "...within the data hoarding community."
    *I feel very attacked.*

    • @TheBigLou13
      @TheBigLou13 Před 2 lety +6

      Don't feel offended ;)
      Data is the new money.

    • @jjones503
      @jjones503 Před 2 lety +1

      *laughs in terabytes*

  • @ArcadeAdam
    @ArcadeAdam Před 2 lety +4

    Yo! thanks for the shout out! I have 4-5 of the 16TB variant of these now and the oldest are coming up on over a year old, still running great and fast! Love the channel, I subbed way back on the OG XBOX PC build.

  • @CraftComputing
    @CraftComputing Před 3 lety +1383

    Great build man! Too bad about getting SMR disks out of the schucks, but Unraid was definitely the correct choice here.

    • @mansharker8
      @mansharker8 Před 3 lety +25

      I bought the same server after watching your videos about it. They have a lot of bang for the buck. :)

    • @MistaWolf90
      @MistaWolf90 Před 3 lety +13

      I also got the same server after crafts video. Honestly If the videos stop putting food on the table He should just buy up all of one unit and make a video about it. He did a great job selling this item.

    • @PrimeRedux
      @PrimeRedux Před 3 lety +11

      I thought the same, anything 10TB or over from Seagate would have been non-SMR drives. I recently pulled all of the 8TB SMR drives out of my Unraid, even though its not really a critial issue like it is for raid and zfs you certainly do get effected by the slow write speeds.

    • @SHSPVR
      @SHSPVR Před 3 lety +3

      @@PrimeRedux Yup so true I would stay far away from SMR drive I too have had one 8TB going south

    • @alexmawdsley
      @alexmawdsley Před 2 lety +6

      @@PrimeRedux realized I got SMR's from Seagate a while ago before the whole debacle. unRAID. Definitely slower writes but with a cache SSD, meh. 4TB drives for like 50 bucks was still worth it in the end. Just holds computer backups and ripped movies so nothing mission critical anyway.

  • @Graphics_Card
    @Graphics_Card Před 3 lety +462

    As a graphics card, it’s nice to see Matt back at it again!!!

    • @foxmore262
      @foxmore262 Před 3 lety +62

      Thank you for powering my computer so I don’t have to use integrated graphics.

    • @peyton_uwu
      @peyton_uwu Před 3 lety +7

      amd apus ftw

    • @Graphics_Card
      @Graphics_Card Před 3 lety +14

      @@peyton_uwu laughs in Ryzen 5 1600

    • @torchedegg
      @torchedegg Před 3 lety +12

      @@foxmore262 amogus

    • @torchedegg
      @torchedegg Před 3 lety +4

      @@Graphics_Card im also a graphics card!1!!11 we are brothers

  • @cmiller6352
    @cmiller6352 Před 2 lety +58

    Pro tip for unRAID n00bs: find a USB header cable and connect it directly to the motherboard. It's fine to have the flash drive just lying in there.
    source: this is the method I've used on my four unRAID servers.

    • @soupfork2105
      @soupfork2105 Před 2 lety +4

      came here to say that. Though I'm also paranoid enough to have secured it with some self-adhesevive velcro to athe side panel

    • @cmiller6352
      @cmiller6352 Před 2 lety

      @@mauritsl84
      That seems like overkill.
      What is gained from using an SSD for unRAID boot?

    • @mauritsl84
      @mauritsl84 Před 2 lety

      @@adeadfishdied you can delete all of it. I read about unraid and so true no usecase for a boot ssd. I am a truenas person so sorry about this.

  • @idiotluggage
    @idiotluggage Před 2 lety +18

    When I built my RAID 5 10TB server 10 years ago, I used Open Media Vault for the OS. It is free and has great support. I've had to replace one drive since it was built and everything is great.

  • @theSurfinBirdie
    @theSurfinBirdie Před 3 lety +4

    Great video! You explained every step in a way, so everyone can understand it. Awesome keep going!

  • @diegodevops4151
    @diegodevops4151 Před 3 lety +27

    That's a great 1U setup you've got there. Great selection of software.

  • @rickb3288
    @rickb3288 Před 2 lety +1

    Great job, my friend. I've been out of messing with IT stuff for the last ten years, but have thought of building a home storage server. This was a great intro to it.

  • @jasperzanjani
    @jasperzanjani Před 2 lety +5

    great build video! between shucking the drives and the dirt cheap server, I can't imagine a more economical way to get such a great NAS

  • @eformance
    @eformance Před 2 lety +42

    I wanted to point out that the factory retaining mechanism for the drives seems to rely on longer than normal screws in 2 of the holes. You might be able to reuse those screws from the Seagate external enclosures, if that kind of thing matters to you. A regular 6-32 SCHS (allen bolt) would probably work too, to engage the retaining mechanism.

  • @aetch77
    @aetch77 Před 3 lety +18

    The motherboard has internal USB sockets to allow you to plug in your flash drives inside the case so it isn't hanging out the rear of the case while the server is running. That does assume your flash drive is short enough to stand up in the case with the lid closed (~30mm but shorter is better for clearance of the case lid).

  • @Handskemager
    @Handskemager Před 2 lety

    Wow, you actually put link in description, ty! So many on CZcams say they will but never do.

  • @ChristopherCobra
    @ChristopherCobra Před 3 lety +1

    Excellent Video! Just the type of stuff I have been looking for. I need a new server and I have not done server work in over 10 years. A HUGE amount has changed in both hardware and software. This video has given my confidence back that I can still build my own. And you wanna know what was most inspiring? You made mistakes but still hit the target.

  • @Skungalunga
    @Skungalunga Před 3 lety +17

    Good work. Been wanting to do this exact same thing for the longest while. Yes, those drives have limitations but compared to what I paid for an HP 3PAR 120TB storage array 6 years ago, this is a no brainer.

  • @TheJohnstonWong
    @TheJohnstonWong Před 3 lety +8

    Nice to see you do this . I have also built something similar but still changed to a synology NAS after a few years , As I didn't have space for a server rack , the noise of the fans were quit annoying to the family

    • @majorgear1021
      @majorgear1021 Před 2 lety

      Yeah, When I saw the small fans, I was like, “this won’t work for me.”

    • @spicybaguette7706
      @spicybaguette7706 Před 2 lety

      @@majorgear1021 yeah you could _technically_ get noctua fans, but those are expensive, which kinda defeats the purpose

  • @vollhorst140
    @vollhorst140 Před 2 lety

    Very good video. I really like that you did tell us the downsides and caveats of the server.

  • @driftyprince
    @driftyprince Před 3 lety

    Your content and videos are so under rated! Loved the video

  • @PrimeRedux
    @PrimeRedux Před 3 lety +12

    Great build overall, I wish I could easily get my hands on this case in the UK!

  • @sbian0216
    @sbian0216 Před 2 lety +63

    Great video! I just have one suggestion: label all the hard drives in case you have to remove multiple of them at the same time.

    • @RagnarNomad
      @RagnarNomad Před 2 lety +1

      Good advice!

    • @maskednil
      @maskednil Před 2 lety +3

      This bro. Even numbering them with a permanent marker is better than nothing

    • @aaroncovrig126
      @aaroncovrig126 Před 2 lety

      It can be annoying, but he should be able to see the drive serial number in the OS and then compare to the serial number on the drive label if he ever needs to remove a specific one.

  • @rolandgeter534
    @rolandgeter534 Před 2 lety

    Super Fantastic Information Matt, thank you for your video, a video that even my old brain could eventually understand after several more rewinds

  • @carlyleroberts3995
    @carlyleroberts3995 Před 2 lety

    Excellent video, well documented, good job Matt

  • @murattosundan
    @murattosundan Před 3 lety +3

    Your wooden case looks amazing!

  • @nathanscarlett4772
    @nathanscarlett4772 Před 3 lety +6

    Love Craft Computing! Nice shout out!

    • @PoeLemic
      @PoeLemic Před 3 lety

      Yeah, I'm a big Craft Computing fan too.

  • @MrMeek79
    @MrMeek79 Před 2 lety

    I really liked the labeling on the wires.Small detail that is great to have later.

  • @andrievbastichy8551
    @andrievbastichy8551 Před 2 lety

    subbed... because its hes decent enough to give props to his resources...
    unlike other YTubers - who like to present like he just magically stumbles unto knowledge.

  • @greenprotag
    @greenprotag Před 3 lety +70

    It's nice to see little projects like these that involve nods to other tech channels. This is a nice little 1U set up and a SOLID build for an early jump into home server hardware.

    • @theglowcloud2215
      @theglowcloud2215 Před 2 lety

      1U is fucking horrible unless you're putting it in a 42U rack in a data center. No one wants to listen to that shit 24/7.

    • @28thMagicKing
      @28thMagicKing Před rokem

      @Cal he said craft, which is the name of the channel

  • @dontbestupid6664
    @dontbestupid6664 Před 3 lety +234

    The way he's handling that ram made me feel anxious.

    • @includenull
      @includenull Před 3 lety +11

      People are too carful with their components still, their pretty resilient these days!

    • @jtonline99
      @jtonline99 Před 2 lety +28

      @@includenull static build up is static build up. Handling it like that is called luck, not component resilience.

    • @kolz4ever1980
      @kolz4ever1980 Před 2 lety +4

      Not even sure what the point of that was

    • @includenull
      @includenull Před 2 lety +14

      @@jtonline99 I think you need to watch the LTT and Electroboom video.

    • @roxert0
      @roxert0 Před 2 lety +10

      @@includenull You should still be careful, like JT wrote already earlier: "static build up is static build up". Just because it didn't happened in LTTs video, it doesn't necessary mean that this can't happen. There are a lot of factors involved in this, especially with computer hardware. Prices for a variety of different components are going up these days and I personally would be extra careful with the bought hardware. So you could say that there is, besides of the technical issue also a financial one.

  • @aliens1990990
    @aliens1990990 Před 2 lety

    That wooden case start of video looks incredible !

  • @LacesOut85
    @LacesOut85 Před 2 lety

    Just the video I was looking for! Thank you!

  • @majorgear1021
    @majorgear1021 Před 2 lety +13

    A few things that you may want to get in your next purchase / setup change.
    Drive array that you can upgrade in place. - Unraid might already do this, but the ability to replace a drive with a larger one and have the new drive automatically rebuild is priceless.
    10Gbe network ports - You’ll be glad that you got them as they really speed
    up file editing and transfers.
    Front accessible drive slots. You don’t want to have to open the server case up to access drives. the ability slide them
    in/out of the front of the server is a big stress reliever.
    Larger drives - this is the eternal problem. Trying to buy enough storage to last 2-3 years when you are just setting up is difficult since your needs can change over time. I’ve learned to multiple my estimate by 150% and that had worked so far.
    Noise reduction - Depending on where the server is at, you might want to get quieter fans and drives. I check the noise level of drivers before I buy them. if the server is out in a garage or something, noise may not be a problem.
    Spare drives - I admit that I haven’t purchased spare drives - ever. With a fault tolerant drive array, 1 failed
    drive might not be a big deal. But what about 2? Drives purchased at the same time have a higher chance of failing at the same time. Especially if they are from the same batch of drives!
    Your choices aren’t bad per se, but these are things that can make your purchase easier to maintain and last longer before you decide to replace it.

    • @uddyalok23
      @uddyalok23 Před rokem

      Do you have examples of enclosures with 10 GB network ports?

  • @EgonSorensen
    @EgonSorensen Před 2 lety +9

    Be aware if you replicate this - some external HDD's with USB interface comes with the USB interface directly on the controller PCB.
    There is NO internal USB-SATA converter, it can ONLY be used as an USB drive!

  • @shawsplace-876networking5

    Proper video why put together perfectly executed

  • @sequish
    @sequish Před 3 lety +36

    Now i want a server that i dont need... Nice job man!

    • @Nordlicht05
      @Nordlicht05 Před 2 lety +2

      I wonder how many people do have a server running 24/7 and only use it one day or another.... Because if you need something in this excact moment...

    • @Miraihi
      @Miraihi Před 2 lety +1

      @@Nordlicht05 Well, small RaspberryPi NAS server is not a big deal. I didn't even notice the difference in power consumption. Full-blown data server though...

    • @webdriverguy
      @webdriverguy Před 2 lety

      @@Miraihi I would suggest build a raspberry pi server with TuringPi v2

  • @dangingerich2559
    @dangingerich2559 Před 3 lety +133

    For that many drives in one enclosure, I would HIGHLY recommend enterprise level drives. They're more expensive, but you're far less likely to have an issue due to vibrations or timeouts, plus reliability is far better.
    Older Ultrastar drives are really good for this purpose, and usually aren't too expensive, and are highly reliable for long term use from my experience. I got 6 4TB Ultrastar drives back in 2015 for $100 each brand new. They were of a 2 year old model and OEM, but still new in the box.
    I used to work in a server storage software development test lab, and of the hundreds of thousands of drives I dealt with, the Hitachi/HGST Ultrastars has the lowest defect rate by FAR, as in we'd get 1 Ultrastar failure a month compared to 15-20 Seagate drives of the same age range, (test storage would be used for 5-8 years in a test lab setting, so I was mostly dealing with 1TB drives even in 2015) and Toshiba and Fujitsu were worse than Seagate. I can't recommend Ultrastar drives enough for long term reliability.

    • @edwindr7514
      @edwindr7514 Před 3 lety +8

      yes definitely enterprise drives, I took a risk once and bought WD nas red disks (x12) and had 4 fail within the first 6 months. Replaced with WD NAS red pro , running 3 years no issues.

    • @dangingerich2559
      @dangingerich2559 Před 2 lety +18

      @@edwindr7514 No, they're really not, mostly because they like to drop out of RAIDs even when they're not failing. Enterprise drives have this little thing called "Time Limited Error Recovery" that consumer drives don't have. If a consumer drive has an issue reading a sector, it will keep trying for up to two minutes to read the sector, and in a RAID scenario, that leads to timeouts and dropping the drive from the set. Enterprise drives will time out and mark the sector as unreadable, replacing it with a spare sector, and declare the data lost to the RAID controller, prompting rebuilding the sector from parity or mirror data. I know from experience when a consumer drive falls out of a RAID set, and then another drops out during the rebuild, it can cause major data loss. I lost my pics for my once in a lifetime DC trip because of it.
      In addition, consume drives don't do well with vibration, and this can cause errors that cause dropouts as well as cause collision between the platter and the head, if too many drives are put into one enclosure. Enterprise drives are secured from wobbling much better than consumer drives with tighter tolerances and more points of securing the heads and spindles.
      I know these things because I'm a sysadmin, most notably a sysadmin in a server storage software test lab for a major storage company from 2010 to 2016. (I do NOT claim to speak for them, as I was just an employee and have no say in corporate opinions.) I've overall been a sysadmin for 12 years, out of a 25 year career in corporate IT. I have EXTENSIVE experience with storage. My profile is available on LinkedIn. I'm the one in Colorado, if you care to look.
      Oh, and those WD Red drives? They're horrible for RAID, almost as bad as consumer drives. They're designed around 4 drive enclosures and software RAID, where vibration protections and TLER aren't as necessary.
      My favorite drives for mechanical storage are HGST Ultrastars, as they were massively more reliable, even when old, out of the hundreds of thousands of drives of dozens of models and 6 different vendors I dealt with in the test lab. They're not that expensive in most cases, if you keep it to 2-4 steps down from maximum capacity, and even equal to consumer drives in price at the bottom of the capacity list. (4TB Ultrastars are super cheap right now, and fast and awesome drives.)

    • @gg-gn3re
      @gg-gn3re Před 2 lety

      I'd use used SAS drives, which are actually cheaper.

    • @jfolz
      @jfolz Před 2 lety +6

      I was about to post this. These drives WILL die from vibration sooner rather than later.
      Terrible tutorial...

    • @mauritsl84
      @mauritsl84 Před 2 lety

      Toshiba MG07 and MG08 Disks are great, “ enterprise “ level and cheaper then most WD Red crappy disks

  • @msf4615
    @msf4615 Před rokem

    Great video and encouraging for people's who need a NAS for their purposes as a guidance

  • @DigitalDavid
    @DigitalDavid Před 2 lety +2

    The value for this NAS build seems to be legit! If you are comfortable with a 1U server it will be hard to do another DIY build any cheaper!

  • @pgabri3l
    @pgabri3l Před 2 lety +7

    Great build. Finally a good storage server without the $10k donation drives.

  • @Nicolas-qb3yg
    @Nicolas-qb3yg Před 3 lety +21

    Thx for the video : your build is exactly what i was looking for years ! what is the overall consumption ? in Idle ? when spinning ?

  • @rastaricky9584
    @rastaricky9584 Před 2 lety

    Wow! This was great! Congratulations

  • @km.productions
    @km.productions Před 2 lety

    Perfect idea my friend!!! So cool!! 80tb is more than awesome storage!! 👍👍

  • @spencergimlin8763
    @spencergimlin8763 Před 3 lety +41

    12:40 Drive manufacturers aren't overstating size, Windows under reports it. Windows uses tebibytes, based in binary, while terabytes are decimal, resulting in ~%10 difference in size. For some reason they refuse to either switch to terabytes, or to use the appropriate symbol for the tebibyte TiB.

    • @Chris_Cross
      @Chris_Cross Před 2 lety +2

      Wait, so they measure in one unit but display in terabytes?
      That's as stupid as if I were to measure out 100 kilometres but then display it as 100mi.

    • @deusexmachinareznov4975
      @deusexmachinareznov4975 Před 2 lety +2

      @@Chris_Cross Not only is it stupid, it is outright dangerous!

    • @chanku18
      @chanku18 Před rokem +2

      This is actually partially due to historical reasons. Originally it was measured only in powers of two -- with the SI unit prefixes used for convenience. Occasionally companies would use it by power of 10 but it wasn't until 1995 when the IUPAC recommended the creation of new units to denote powers of two vs decimal units. The IEC adopted the recommendation in December 1998 -- which is relatively recent. Even OSX/MacOS used the powers of two units until Snow Lepoard and iOS 10 (2016). Likely Microsoft is staying with what it is because of a mixture of inertia and it ultimately not being that important to them.
      Fun-Fact: Donald Knuth proposed to call a Kibibyte a 'large kilobyte' (KKB),

    • @joelopez7459
      @joelopez7459 Před rokem

      You could still say it's the companies fault

    • @Pegaroo_
      @Pegaroo_ Před rokem

      It's weird how RAM manufactures and M$ can agree on which unit should be used but storage manufactures decided to used something else because they wanted to put a bigger number the box
      The International Electrotechnical Commission (IEC) created the term tebibyte and the other binary prefixes -- kibi, mebi, gibi, pebi, exbi, zebi and yobi -- in 1998. Before then a Kilobyte was 1024 bytes there was no decimalisation of a base 2 number system. M$ is just displaying the units the way they always have

  • @QuentinStephens
    @QuentinStephens Před 2 lety +8

    You might consider getting a PCIe riser card and putting a NVME card on it then you could have up to two NVME drives (the x16 slot is x8, not x16) as cache. That would free up the 3.5" bay.

  • @deathpie5000
    @deathpie5000 Před 2 lety

    I really enjoyed the video I'm not quite as experienced as you with nas Hands-On but I have messed with it virtual a little but I love your enthusiasm you remind me of myself will definitely sub.

  • @Dancing_Alone_wRentals

    Fun to watch....I had to drop off when we went from $126 up to $1,500. But it is still nice to see how the other half lives and computes.

  • @kalam564
    @kalam564 Před 3 lety +177

    Overall solid build, but I'd never put a 1U server in my home, those tiny fans are too noisy.

    • @wizdude
      @wizdude Před 2 lety +22

      Typically I would agree from all the servers I’ve worked with in the past, but I have a Dell R210 1RU server at home that runs at room temperature and is almost silent unless I push the CPU workload up high. It’s pretty impressive. Most of the newer dell servers are also fresh air rated. It’s a stark difference from the earlier IBM servers I used to work with that sounded like aircraft taking off :-)

    • @FlexibleToast
      @FlexibleToast Před 2 lety +3

      Yeah, I would only do it if I had a dedicated server area in a basement or something. Maybe some low power Atom or ARM processers would run cooler and be fine.

    • @37Kilo2
      @37Kilo2 Před 2 lety +2

      You can always splice in some resistors to slow and quiet the fans. I did that on my old Dell 2U server.

    • @mrdali67
      @mrdali67 Před 2 lety +2

      I agree. Very nice build, but It's very few people that have a basement or sound isolated room where you can hide a 19" rack server away. even its small 1u height these babies take quite a bit of space, and the noise is the even bigger issue if people live in an appartement it's close to impossible to find a suitable place to hide them away without the noise being an issue. Problem to build a "compact" system (if you can call a 10+ disk nas "compact") is to find a suitable Mobo/sata controller with enough connectors to support a "pro" level nas configuration. Even you can find mobo's with 8 Sata connectors, they are often spanned over 2 different controllers wich can be a problem dependent on how well its implemented on that particular mobo model. Thats why if you want to make a diy Nas, a 19" server is often the only way of getting the flexibility you need, and like Matt found out the choice of buying off shelf external drives and hording the drives can be risky if you don't know exactly what kinda drives is inside. Dependent of cause how "pro" you want your system to be vs price. There is a reason why eg Seagate's server grade 24/7/365/10 year drives cost over 3 times as much as their equivalent consumer grade drives, and why they have different drive series today dependent on what usage you plan to use them with.

    • @markc6714
      @markc6714 Před 2 lety +5

      I had a 46RU server rack in my house for years. I'll never do it again.

  • @hamsterwolf
    @hamsterwolf Před 3 lety +6

    Great video man. Just word of advice makes sure you make regular back ups of your unraid boot drive. Had a scare the other day where the drive I was using failed. The flash drive stores your drive assignment, Plugins, and configuration. If you have to replace the drive from scratch you need to start from scratch but also know which drive sn are your parity drives. I got luck and was able to recover my config folder under linux. So I'm fine now but man that was a pain learning how to do that last minute. I would also recommend take a screenshot of all your drive assignments and save that somewhere.

    • @TechByMattB
      @TechByMattB  Před 3 lety +2

      I have a back up of it, but will make sure to be diligent about backing it up frequently!

    • @markdawson25
      @markdawson25 Před 2 lety

      Good advice... my first NAS build I used a tiny [HP branded] thumb drive mounted inside, using the USB port on the motherboard. I shut it down to replace a failed drive, and pulled the thumb drive out, and it fell apart in my hand (I assume it was due to the heat inside the case). My OS drive literally fell apart in my hand!

  • @janegerrard1073
    @janegerrard1073 Před 2 lety +1

    Nice, and Unraid is probably your best option with those drives. Now with 80TB of potential data in one place you need a video on backup strategy.

  • @Mokhtartba
    @Mokhtartba Před 4 měsíci

    to use the SSD as a cach Memory was Amazing to Aviod problems and slow Process ! and Good Work my friend !

  • @PrimeRedux
    @PrimeRedux Před 3 lety +19

    SMR is inferior, but sadly not outdated. It's a farly new tech and the drive manaufacturers used it mostly for cost saving. I don't think SMR is going away any time soon, its primary purpose is for write once read many applications so is ideal for data archiving, many of the much higher capacity drives initually used SMR.

  • @geogmz8277
    @geogmz8277 Před 2 lety +17

    "no redundant power supplies but that's ok with me" hahaha boi! Last famous words..

    • @qm3ster
      @qm3ster Před 2 lety +1

      Really? The last ones? There have not been any famous words since? Astonishing!

  • @irisvalentina2066
    @irisvalentina2066 Před 2 lety

    This is something that I needed. Thank you ❤

  • @haydenc2742
    @haydenc2742 Před 2 lety +1

    Very cool! BTRFS as your data/parity and xfs as your cache (BTRFS has a ton of un-needed writes to the cache drive otherwise)
    I saw the same video by craft and was VERY tempted to get one of those...
    I have unraid on my server but I run PLEX on it so, and I used shucked drives as well
    Great video!!!!

  • @anormal9077
    @anormal9077 Před 3 lety +25

    this is called labor, thank you, everyone give this man a like.

  • @johnlemus7921
    @johnlemus7921 Před 3 lety +6

    That's a super cool build even with the SMR Drives. Tyan has been around for years and has always put out great hardware for servers. If you want to see one of my favorite boards check out the Tyan Tiger MP S2460.

  • @JeroenvandenBerg82
    @JeroenvandenBerg82 Před 2 lety

    "server noob" right.... excellent work, Wendell and Jeff would be proud. To bad you got SMR drives, but with chugging its a roll of the dice, but unRAID is an excellent workaround for that.

  • @chrisumali9841
    @chrisumali9841 Před 2 lety

    Thanks for the demo and info.

  • @drake53545
    @drake53545 Před 3 lety +10

    craft computings channel is awesome for server stuff on the cheapish side

    • @PoeLemic
      @PoeLemic Před 3 lety

      Yeah, I'm a big Craft Computing fan too.

  • @neccros007
    @neccros007 Před 3 lety +10

    LOVE this server chassis, just wish it wasnt so damn long!!!! Or that they offered a 4U chassis with the same specs/capacity!

  • @andik6828
    @andik6828 Před 2 lety

    What amazing value that 1U is - good find!

  • @pauldanster1239
    @pauldanster1239 Před rokem

    Wow. Great build bro👊🏿

  • @nofreenamestoreg
    @nofreenamestoreg Před 3 lety +7

    Great, love this type of stuff :) To be honest I would just go with a couple of cheap NAS devices (like 3-4 drives), even buy them second hand to cut on price.

    • @Markyroson
      @Markyroson Před 2 lety +1

      I may replicate something like this someday...but I'd probably also follow this approach and start with a few purpose-built server-grade drives and add to it over time. Costs more but you get higher reliability.

    • @setecastronomy_hc
      @setecastronomy_hc Před 2 lety

      Few cheap NAS devices are ok if you can get them cheap but something like this is much more reliable.

  • @snoman6322
    @snoman6322 Před 3 lety +7

    Nice video. Well done. Curious, What is your power usage on this? What does the IPMI interface look like?

  • @ws2940
    @ws2940 Před 2 lety

    Very cool video. Thank you for making it.

  • @GeorgeMulak
    @GeorgeMulak Před 2 lety

    Wow, what a lot of great work. Thank you for sharing.

  • @VictorNyagol_Sir
    @VictorNyagol_Sir Před 3 lety +4

    Awesome job... I wish parts here in Kenya were that cheap

  • @Kenshin9977
    @Kenshin9977 Před 2 lety +278

    3 years after buying 4*4 TB HDD I realized they were SMR. I'm using TrueNAS which uses the ZFS filesystem and you get horrible performances with SMR (10 MB/s). I only saw that when I did a little bit more that just watching 1 video at a time stored on the NAS. Otherwise I had 0 issue, thus the 3 years to figure that out.
    The HDD weren't labeled for NAS (got them because they were cheaper) so I had to buy replacement HDD.
    tl;dr 100% agree with the video, avoid SMR drive, you want CMR

    • @N1lav
      @N1lav Před 2 lety +6

      Hasn't seagate or WD been sued for selling SMR as NAS drives? Whatever happened to that. Fkin corporations, they get away with everything

    • @TheLilmage7
      @TheLilmage7 Před 2 lety +2

      and don't forget that Seagate actually ripped off customers for implementing it to their drives at one point and most of the drives would fail cause of it

    • @Ccagesniper
      @Ccagesniper Před 2 lety +1

      @@N1lav I don't think any one was sued. People were mad at WD for changing some of their CMR product lines for SMR. Seagate had had their barracuda drives SMR for years now. Their iron wolf drives are CMR. They don't actually recommend you even use barracuda drives for a raided NAS device at all regardless.

    • @realedna
      @realedna Před 2 lety +1

      How is it possible to go down to 10 MB/s, when normal HDDs can write at ~100MB/s?
      And with GBit-LAN, plenty of RAM and CACHE, how does a system manage to waste so much performance, while just copying data?

    • @kjeldschouten-lebbing6260
      @kjeldschouten-lebbing6260 Před 2 lety

      ​@@realedna It's not the system that's the problem. It's SMR drives during an ZFS rebuild, due to design "flaws" in SMR drives.
      These drives are NOT able to do 100MB/s during ZFS rebuild.

  • @MysticStar_Blue_Swordsman

    Yeah. I thought about going this route my self but without having warranty and the risk of getting SMR drives i just couldn't take the chance but this is still very interesting to see and gives me ideas for future NAS builds for myself

    • @tfwmemedumpster
      @tfwmemedumpster Před 2 lety

      Keep in mind that SMR drives don't exist in sizes larger than 8TB. So if you buy anything larger it will have CMR, because nobody makes SMR drives larger than 8TB. So if you want to shuck drives and are afraid of getting smr go for the larger sizes.

  • @bruceallen6492
    @bruceallen6492 Před 2 lety +1

    BRAVO! Great work!

  • @hb55047
    @hb55047 Před 3 lety +4

    There are 2 usb ports on the motherboard next to the sata ports. You can put the unraid flash drive there so it's not sticking out

    • @nickpage221
      @nickpage221 Před 3 lety

      The USB he had might be too tall to fit but, a Samsung FIT would definitely fit there.

  • @ReigginHilderbrand
    @ReigginHilderbrand Před 3 lety +5

    Would love to see a follow-up video showing how you have the 1U server all hooked up. I'm thinking of doing something like this in my "server closet" (aka unused coat closet).

    • @PoeLemic
      @PoeLemic Před 3 lety

      Yeah, I'm thinking about learning how to add an air duct venting to my extra bedroom closet, then I can move computers in there. Not started but thinking about it.

  • @hossainabeer
    @hossainabeer Před rokem

    Thank you for the detailed guide

  • @whatsup6797
    @whatsup6797 Před 2 lety

    Thanks for the information. Nice idea

  • @toos2023
    @toos2023 Před 3 lety +6

    Great job! Can you say something about the temperatures it achieves during operation?

  • @biggig8548
    @biggig8548 Před 3 lety +3

    Matt nice video...just curious how loud the fans are in this chassis? As you stated it only has that copper heat sink for the CPU cooler but curious how loud the system runs and are you able to throttle those fan speeds? Thanks.

  • @delturge
    @delturge Před rokem

    Man, that was a lot of work take those drives out of those cases. Great job. 🙂

  • @parker02311
    @parker02311 Před 2 lety

    Took apart one of these drives a few weeks ago to get repaired and put into my new tower and it took me over an hour to take apart.

  • @sfperalta
    @sfperalta Před 2 lety +5

    Part of me appreciates the cost savings of the external drives, but the other part of me cringes at the waste of all those plastic enclosures. And, as it's clear from the video, using external drives means that you don't really know what you're getting (other than capacity) until you crack open the enclosure. I would have spent the extra money and bought the bare drives to make sure I had exactly what I wanted. But I can appreciate what he got for the money.

  • @no-expert
    @no-expert Před 2 lety +3

    I find it funny that this is counts as 1 Unit :D Coming from having audio equipment (much shorter) in my 19" Racks, this thing seems so massive. Seriously, where do you keep it safe? In a Rack? Anyway, nice and inspiring video :)

    • @rickb3288
      @rickb3288 Před 2 lety +1

      RU (rack unit) value only applies to the vertical space, where each = 1.75". Horizontal length has no bearing.

  • @doanprasmana1444
    @doanprasmana1444 Před 3 lety

    we are the same... when came to build ,buy,or want something ,always comeback to the video that explain the thing i nedd....

  • @Brad0st
    @Brad0st Před 8 dny

    great video, this will be my next project

  • @artemisa81
    @artemisa81 Před 3 lety +25

    I was hoping to see the performance and hear the noise whilst running. Second video?

  • @EnricAragorn
    @EnricAragorn Před 3 lety +4

    Hi friend. I did something similar than you. I bought an 2012 i5 HP server. I addedd 6 SATA discs (of 2TB each), and an SSD to boot and store OS. 75€ of the server, the disks than I previously had, 20 for the SSD. and 20 for the RAM. Some euro for the small stuff (to hold in place the disks), and a TRUENAS. Ultracheap nas. Great option the server cage from ebay, i did not knew that!

    • @anonimuso
      @anonimuso Před 3 lety +1

      I also just bought an old HP server (DL360 G6) for about $140. Two 6 core Xeons, 32GB RAM. I am about to set it up with Proxmox for a virtualization and Nextcloud server.

    • @EnricAragorn
      @EnricAragorn Před 3 lety

      @@anonimuso well done!

  • @andrewwilliams4545
    @andrewwilliams4545 Před 2 lety +1

    Brilliant Matt your are a genius !

  • @abe677
    @abe677 Před 2 lety

    Nice video. I also went Unraid a bit ago and it's been great. I backup a couple PCs to it. I run Plex, BookStack and Paperless-NG dockers. I also have a VM running HomeAssistant.

  • @ioannis69k
    @ioannis69k Před 2 lety +3

    Nice build ! Thanks for sharing. Doesn’t the motherboard has an internal USB header for you to connect the bootable usb inside ?

  • @jamesrichardson8488
    @jamesrichardson8488 Před 2 lety +6

    Where did you get your work mat with the motherboard and ssd/HDD sizes on? I'd love one.

  • @gedionsamuel2256
    @gedionsamuel2256 Před 2 lety

    Exactly what I was looking for! Almost purchased a used QNAP

  • @Legolize23
    @Legolize23 Před 2 lety

    Great video and very informative, well done! :)

  • @BubbyGamingOfficial
    @BubbyGamingOfficial Před 3 lety +6

    You Know I Don't Need One Of These But Having One Would Be Pretty Sick

    • @crisscrossam
      @crisscrossam Před 3 lety

      same. i would probably be fine with a very low storage amount for myself, but to have it all stored and accessed through the network instead of having to plug in an external every time, as well as having redundant backups is pretty sweet.

  • @atrociouspvp5011
    @atrociouspvp5011 Před 3 lety +3

    Sick

  • @PR-fk5yb
    @PR-fk5yb Před 2 lety

    Thanks great build. I built my home server from a discarded tower case an old mb etc. But only put in new CMR drive. Did'nt want to rely on SMR. For those insisting on reducing the noise level.... use Noctua and remember the Wake on LAN switch... at least it is quiet when not in use.

  • @khalidelgazzar
    @khalidelgazzar Před 2 lety +1

    Great detailed video. Consice and to the point. Thanks!

  • @amateurwizard
    @amateurwizard Před 3 lety +107

    Oh God, not Barracuda's

    • @AJ_Animations
      @AJ_Animations Před rokem +10

      Cheaper than ironwolfs

    • @terminatorfishstudios
      @terminatorfishstudios Před rokem +37

      @@AJ_Animations more likely to all die at once and cause permanent data loss in the first couple months than Ironwolf as well
      Barracudas aren’t made for the settings of servers, you aren’t being scammed by enterprise/nas drives costing more than the cheapo’s, servers are simply an expensive hobby
      The ones in this server are much slower than enterprise drives, aren’t rated for the vibration of so many drives in a single chassis, the stores they will be under, and will lack the needed statistics/warnings of drive failure needed
      Also oh god an old psu with a data server…
      It’s worth, if you get a really cheap server chassis and are going to do this, getting a second hand 80+ platinum server psu
      This video is made for getting your views, showing you a cheap way around things that you need to take an expensive path
      If you care at all about the data to be stored on something like this, don’t use this, doesn’t mean you have to buy the nicest stuff in the world, but this is basically a waste of money

    • @loverofbigdookies
      @loverofbigdookies Před rokem +4

      Not to mention 80tb with that few drives is likely in a raid 0

    • @lo_fye
      @lo_fye Před rokem +7

      You can’t do budget with expensive drives.

    • @userou-ig1ze
      @userou-ig1ze Před rokem +3

      @@terminatorfishstudios can't you just replace the PSU once it breaks? Seems like in this setup uptime is not a priority

  • @MrBenMcLean
    @MrBenMcLean Před 2 lety +11

    "But I will probably mount it with some double-sided tape in the future."
    No way. Never use double-sided tape. Use Velcro. So much better for hard drives in every way.

    • @Bobo-ox7fj
      @Bobo-ox7fj Před 2 lety

      Double-sided tape is crystallised installation debt, it will always come back to bite someone later on.

  • @sunnyday5926
    @sunnyday5926 Před 2 lety

    All-in-One price/performance storage solution guide. Thank you.

  • @jonathanwong880
    @jonathanwong880 Před rokem

    Superb build! Inspired by this , I built one with a B250 motherboard, 500W power supply, a 1T Samsung SSD as WIN 10 with 7X8T WD drives into a small desktop casing.

  • @SullySadface
    @SullySadface Před 3 lety +4

    that's awesome, i would totes build that with half the drives for cheap!
    i personally would run fedora or arch server, but I'm a control freak
    also I'd try to water cool the thing cause those 40mm fans get loud af