This is so crazy because growing up my parents had a 2003 Odyssey, almost the same exact car. My brother and I would play this game where we would pretend the third row was a roller coaster, sit on the bench, pull the latch at the bottom, and the seat would violently and quickly tip back. We never got hurt but the way Kyle's bench seat was set up was different, the entire thing was folded for him and tipped back, trapping him, but when we played this "game" it would be in the upright position and the seat would stay at a 90 degree angle and we'd be able to put it back. The headrests would also prevent the seat from going into the well. Still we could have been easily decapitated or more likely asphyxiated. Granted we both did this together so we could help one another out if something were to go wrong but still. The newer models have a 60/40 split so that only part of it would have tipped back. My heart goes out to him and his family.
the 2003 and 2004 odyssey is different. the 2004 odyssey is a facelift with different major change, i think its including the mechanism to fold the third row.
@@loulou785741pretty sure the lack of a response from the Cincinnati call center and the officers not getting out to check on the calls allowed for this tragedy to happen. But,hey, blame God because that's the easy way out.
I really appreciated this. I know that the 911 operator was neglected, but wondered if Honda made any recalls. Now I understand how a lot of little mistakes. It is so unfortunate that this boy should lose his life that way.
This makes me think now that back seats should never fold back unless there is some kind of safety feature. It’s scary to think how it was already folded forward at first, so no one would think it would still flip back
The Oklahoma owner of a 2011 Odyssey said there was a chronic latching problem with their third-row seat and urged a federal recall. The seat wouldn't lock in place and would suddenly flip over if someone sat or leaned on it.
I really am surprised Honda were not sued, or didn't make a gesture. I understand there was a settlement last year. I found this story this week in the UK. This design would have been unacceptable in a car from the 1960's when I was a kid. If Kyle had left his phone on the front seat, or in a coat somewhere inaccessible, there would have been the same outcome, very sadly - so ultimately it's the possibility of this happening and the weight. It was a marketing choice, not a sensible one. At least with the phone he could bravely send his love and calmly state his predicament twice. He should have been saved in penty of time. This does indeed make officers and responders look grossly negligent. While you can't predict everything, at least aircraft manufacturers really try - and surely car manufacturers even in the late 90's and 2000's should not have a heavy seat with a swivel mechanism like this. So sorry Kyle. Rest in Peace.
I wondered too if there was a way out. I think the seat folds go all the way back so it’s flush with door-he had been either too far down for leverage and perhaps tried and when he moved it kept sliding backward.
@@WM-jx7ynyeah at 16 years old 80lbs of force was absolutely nothing I probably would have pushed myself out, but he was a skinny and small kid he stood no chance
Nah, I looked into this story. Blame the 911 dispatcher for thinking it was a fake call and never giving the police the information about the van. And blame the cops for only looking through 1 parking lot out of 3 and never even getting out of their patrol car.
Yes, unfortunately Honda (and technology as a whole) is partially at fault. When an engineer seals a design, there is an implied handshake between him and society. An agreement that his design will be safe for the public to use. The public has no choice but to trust that the machine or structure that they use is safe. But to err is human, and that includes engineers. That is why engineers must learn from the mistakes of the past, and apply those lessons into writing procedures and standards that can help to avert future tragedies. In military aviation, there is a saying, "Aircraft manuals are written in blood." I guess Honda will be writing some guidelines in blood, too. :(
Kyle was a hero. If his family would've been dealing with hardships financially the 6 mill his parents got sure as heck are out of financial difficulty as Kyle's death helped his family and maybe potentially other kids if the 911 system was being upgraded. Rip Kyle you're a legend young man 😢😔
Let's not act as if 6 million is nearly enough to make up for the loss of a child... The Plush family had a very nice home in all of their pictures, two loving parents, and he played school sports, and a 3 row minivan, the boy was well off. Not to mention he lived in Cincinnati. He had a very bright, productive future taken from him with college just a few years away. I wouldn't call him a hero, he was a victim. They failed him.
the calm music, simple art style and horrifying context make this video really unsettling
It's a shame that such useful video has so low number of views. Every 3 row seats car owner has to watch it.
Not every 3 row seat car has this type of mechanism.
@@andyb4796 Indeed, but at least for Odyssey owners this information is valuable.
I just want to share this with every person I know just in case their vehicle has something even remotely similar. What a terrible tragedy.
This is so crazy because growing up my parents had a 2003 Odyssey, almost the same exact car. My brother and I would play this game where we would pretend the third row was a roller coaster, sit on the bench, pull the latch at the bottom, and the seat would violently and quickly tip back. We never got hurt but the way Kyle's bench seat was set up was different, the entire thing was folded for him and tipped back, trapping him, but when we played this "game" it would be in the upright position and the seat would stay at a 90 degree angle and we'd be able to put it back. The headrests would also prevent the seat from going into the well. Still we could have been easily decapitated or more likely asphyxiated. Granted we both did this together so we could help one another out if something were to go wrong but still. The newer models have a 60/40 split so that only part of it would have tipped back. My heart goes out to him and his family.
the 2003 and 2004 odyssey is different. the 2004 odyssey is a facelift with different major change, i think its including the mechanism to fold the third row.
Holy hell, this is terrifying.
ya foreal man!! I get crazy anxiety imagining this!!!
This is the best re-enactment of what happen, and it is terrifying! God bless his family.
What does "God bless his family" mean in this case? They lost their son. What is god supposed to do for them? He let their son die.
@@loulou785741pretty sure the lack of a response from the Cincinnati call center and the officers not getting out to check on the calls allowed for this tragedy to happen. But,hey, blame God because that's the easy way out.
I really appreciated this. I know that the 911 operator was neglected, but wondered if Honda made any recalls. Now I understand how a lot of little mistakes. It is so unfortunate that this boy should lose his life that way.
This is literally the only time this happened, a freak accident. What would they recall??
I came here after watching MrBallen , what a sad tragic story.
This makes me think now that back seats should never fold back unless there is some kind of safety feature. It’s scary to think how it was already folded forward at first, so no one would think it would still flip back
The Oklahoma owner of a
2011 Odyssey said there was a chronic latching problem with their
third-row seat and urged a federal recall. The seat wouldn't lock in
place and would suddenly flip over if someone sat or leaned on it.
hi are you wanna be friend
I am an owner of an '11 odyssey, they recalled and fixed it
Is there an animation of the first responders not being able to find him ?
This is such a sad story
This is such a freak accident. It is kind of like 1 in a million chance it will happen, but I guess it did happened to this guy. Such bad luck.
Not guess. It did happen unfortunately smh
I get what happened now...yikes... I'm personally against 3rd row seating if the seats are stow and go...
He should have phoned his parents instead of 911
But in emergency we are taught 911… he was 16.. didn’t have much time.. he knew 911 would answer for sure
This is such an embarrassing and stupid way to die. Such a shame the rescuers couldn’t seem to get it together to resolve the situation.
I really am surprised Honda were not sued, or didn't make a gesture. I understand there was a settlement last year. I found this story this week in the UK.
This design would have been unacceptable in a car from the 1960's when I was a kid.
If Kyle had left his phone on the front seat, or in a coat somewhere inaccessible, there would have been the same outcome, very sadly - so ultimately it's the possibility of this happening and the weight. It was a marketing choice, not a sensible one.
At least with the phone he could bravely send his love and calmly state his predicament twice. He should have been saved in penty of time.
This does indeed make officers and responders look grossly negligent.
While you can't predict everything, at least aircraft manufacturers really try - and surely car manufacturers even in the late 90's and 2000's should not have a heavy seat with a swivel mechanism like this.
So sorry Kyle. Rest in Peace.
Are you kidding? Seatbelts weren't even mandatory until like the 80's
God bless
So you’re telling me you can’t push 70 pounds of pressure at the age of 16.
why didn't he push off the floor or the back door to right himself?
I wondered too if there was a way out. I think the seat folds go all the way back so it’s flush with door-he had been either too far down for leverage and perhaps tried and when he moved it kept sliding backward.
Yea at 16 I was pretty strong. This is strange.
If you look at pictures he was a very very small 16 year old.
@@WM-jx7ynyeah at 16 years old 80lbs of force was absolutely nothing I probably would have pushed myself out, but he was a skinny and small kid he stood no chance
Despecher very slow
He could have kicked then broke the window instead, because his feet is right next to the window. It is still a tragedy that he lost his life.
While not being able to breathe really.. you think the window was that easy to break lol
Blame Honda for faulty design.
Nah, I looked into this story. Blame the 911 dispatcher for thinking it was a fake call and never giving the police the information about the van. And blame the cops for only looking through 1 parking lot out of 3 and never even getting out of their patrol car.
@@beast_mode_4200 add that too
Yes, unfortunately Honda (and technology as a whole) is partially at fault. When an engineer seals a design, there is an implied handshake between him and society. An agreement that his design will be safe for the public to use. The public has no choice but to trust that the machine or structure that they use is safe.
But to err is human, and that includes engineers. That is why engineers must learn from the mistakes of the past, and apply those lessons into writing procedures and standards that can help to avert future tragedies.
In military aviation, there is a saying, "Aircraft manuals are written in blood." I guess Honda will be writing some guidelines in blood, too. :(
Kyle was a hero. If his family would've been dealing with hardships financially the 6 mill his parents got sure as heck are out of financial difficulty as Kyle's death helped his family and maybe potentially other kids if the 911 system was being upgraded. Rip Kyle you're a legend young man 😢😔
Let's not act as if 6 million is nearly enough to make up for the loss of a child... The Plush family had a very nice home in all of their pictures, two loving parents, and he played school sports, and a 3 row minivan, the boy was well off. Not to mention he lived in Cincinnati. He had a very bright, productive future taken from him with college just a few years away. I wouldn't call him a hero, he was a victim. They failed him.
lmao what a horrible take
Why didn't the idiot get his stuff from out of the back like every other human being would?
@@Kennedy_77441 Survival of the fittest.
You have never been a teenager.
@@KC-zw4mm Obviously I have and lived to tell the tale.
@@TheConspiredOneUh yeah cuz yer soooo smart you would never get yourself into a situation like that, right? Trump supporter I'm guessing.
@@tartisanhope you're ready for a trump win later this year