The Language of God: A Scientist Presents Evidence of Belief | Francis Collins at Caltech
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- Dr. Francis Collins (Former Director of the National Institutes of Health) shares his journey from atheism to faith and answers the question, "Are science and faith consistent ways of seeing the world?" | California Institute of Technology , 2009 | Explore more at www.veritas.org.
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“The first gulp from the glass of natural sciences will turn you into an atheist, but at the bottom of the glass God is waiting for you.” - Werner Heisenberg (Noble Prize Physics Quantum Theory)
Clawed1234: the name sounds familiar but the main thing is how so many top flight scientists are Christians and others believe there is a God or something behind the creation of the universe. I have been asking atheists to explain how two different results can come from a thorough examination of the facts. People like Dr. James M. Tour and Dr. Hugh Ross. Devout Christians. The silly answers I get only show the lengths the non believer will go to avoid facing the facts.
@E R Which particular God did you meet i wonder? I also wonder how you established you were at the bottom of the glass.
@@michaelbrickley2443 Isn't Collins simply asserting God and then using God's assumed supernatural ability (defined as such, not observed) to explain whatever he feels science can't explain, plus everything science can explain? Well, that's just too easy since that's everything. Supernatural can explain anything and everything without effort. Science isn't allowed to do that. Science has to make the effort to explain the mechanisms, processes, or elements involved in any observed thing, form those into falsifiable hypotheses and then devise experiments to try to disprove those hypotheses. If something doesn't yet have an answer, that's the way it should remain until new information comes along to revisit the question of explaining a thing.
Regarding Tour, I was disappointed in his mischaracterizing evolution by putting the cart before the horse. He takes an existing life protein and calculates the odds of that one protein being constructed by chance, and claims the odds are so astronomical that it can never have evolved by chance. Evolution doesn't work like that. It doesn't care what proteins are produced. Any protein at all can be produced by any random mutation. Unlike Tour, evolution has no goal in mind. If evolution randomly produces a protein that contributes to reproductive fitness, it gets preserved and it's one of the proteins we see today simply because it happened to do something. Had a different set of proteins appeared from different mutations, the ones we see today would be different and life would be based on those instead.
@@laceystinson the God of the gaps? Haha…I don’t use scientists to prove God. He proved Himself to me. Explain miracles and the resurrection evidence. Explain scientists such as John Polkinghorne, James M. Tour and others, looking at the evidence and coming to faith in the One True God, Yahweh. You’re just reading the atheist handbook and it fits your narrative. Too many critical thinking humans agree with me. And as I said in the beginning, He proved Himself to me. He has proved Himself to many others. The evidence that points to the weakness in atheist faith is laid out in Geisler and Tureks’s book, I don’t have enough faith to be an atheist. You should read it, might wake you up
@@michaelbrickley2443 really? How do Spanish Medieval Jews feel about that.
One true God, wastes over 1000 years competing with variations of Himself, and taking, NO action, on supposed 'detestable', things? A little odd. I guess breaking Sabbath will get you a full trial, and even a divine appearance, ala Numbers 15 - but actual pogroms, an inquisition, pro slavery apologetic priests, schisms, and wars - do not get anything, so comparable?
Praise The Lord that a man of Faith in God led this incredible discovery of the Human Genome 🙏 God bless you more Dr. Francis Collins and your family and generations
Many scientists through our history were Christians or Muslims, for a long time it seemed a reasonable conclusion. Of course, now that we have a much deeper, comprehensive understanding of the universe, most scientists are atheists, because there is not sufficient evidence to warrant belief. That's why Christians believe on faith, which is just meant to replace evidence because if someone had a good reason to believe something, they wouldn't need faith
Thank you for the speech. I’m about to start my journey of faith. I can relate how we arrive at the turning point. I do not want to resist any more. But it’s scary that if I will turn into one of those religious fanatics that are full of dogmas and narcissism. You, sir, are a great role model.
If you find fanatics scary, I think you will be just fine. ☺️
I relate with your fear of becoming that kind of Christian. What helps me is to remember what it was like before I was a believer. How would I have wanted to be spoken to? Hope this helps. God be with you on your journey.
🙏🏾
Jesus isn't a religion. Religion binds, but Jesus sets you free. And whom the Son sets free is free indeed.
Ultimately, Jesus is the role model. You gain knowledge of him by simply listening to Him. The way it works with him is that he rubs off on you as you walk with him.
I am reading the bible for the first time in my life, after beeing atheist for 20 years. Jesus is truth!
Ecclesiastes 3:11
He has made everything beautiful in its time. Also, he has put eternity into man’s heart, yet so that he cannot find out what God has done from the beginning to the end.
Watch anyone die in faith for God spoke the creation into life. Everything comes to a man in vision whether you’re asleep or awake or blind. That’s why the word was made in the flesh and to this day he reaches out down the streets and sits on the bench waiting. He has shown himself to those who aren’t looking and to those who search with their whole heart
Sorry, so where do parasitic wasps eating caterpillars alive factor into this, @weston saathoff ? And which bits of nature did or did not fall under demonic influence or sabotage, post Fall? Such that not all visible bits of nature may have only one clear hand or intent, behind them now?
And where was the Word, and doing what, during the Inquisition in Spain, if I could have some clarity on that - please? As it was so... wasteful.
And showing self only via nature to those who... aren't looking, runs the risk of them inferring more than one creator behind it, or some different one. Or even a generic one. It may lack some specifics, when it comes to who they should direct their search, or worship toward.
I also assume He is not so... Jealous, now?
@@chrissonofpear1384 he's very jealous. And those who have the incorruptible seed in them truly know. The sifting is coming in hot. You'll either die for Christ at the hands of the "intellectuals," or you'll make a Christ into your own image, which is what the VAST majority of "Christians" are doing, have done, and will continue to do, as Jesus Himself prophesied that they would. As well as what the Apostles prophesied. There truly is nothing new under the sun, including "scientific discovery".
Huh, I never knew that the man who directed the human genome project was a Christian, or that he came from near my hometown. Lately I've had a lot of doubts and questions about whether or not I really believed God exists. Thank God that I found this video, my doubts might just be over...
How the journey going 2 years later? Have you made the connection and do you pray?
I pray you've found God, especially now that we are watching Revelation unfold in real time. Thing is, it's impossible to please God without faith, so if you're looking for a definitive answer of whether He exists you won't find it in academics or "science." Your faith only grows by hearing the Word, it grows spiritually. Some people never get to that place ig. I know, definitively that God exists but that was a spiritual journey and not a physical one
God bless man. I’m no scientist but definitely in a high science field and I’ve often ended up in the same place this man has. The question of consciousness, the real root of it, is just too much for science alone for me.
@@LouLouLion Brothers and Sisters in Christ, Today I would like to discuss a very real threat to any Faithful True ®Christian. I speak, of course, about the demonic practice of rational thinking.” In these modern times, where evil people worship science, that spreads lies and blasphemies against God in our public school and classrooms, there is an increasing pressure from the unsaved upon True Christians to embrace their religious practice of Logic and Reason, which is a euphemism, of course, for slandering God’s Holy Bible. Why do I say this? Because, when anyone tries to applies rational thinking to the Bible, it suddenly doesn’t seem to make as much sense as it normally did, suggesting the Bible would be filled with contradictions and such. This, of course, already proves that rational thinking is a form of demonic possession, clouding the vision of the freethinker to the Truth.
@@dr.rickmarshall6697 Do you feel better? I hope so.
Remember when you were a small child and about to do something wrong, but you felt that little tug at your heart that told you "NO"? That was the spirit trying to guide you... Or when you were older and trying to figure out something difficult but you just couldn't and finally it occurs to you, so as to make you say "oh yeah! Why didn't i think of that before?" - because HE just gave it to you. We say that because it seems so simple when the answer is perfect. That's how we know what comes from our Father, by it's perfection. When we don't listen we say things like "something was telling me" or "i had a gut feeling" but really this is how God communicates with every life form. Remember what Jesus said, "consider the birds of the field, they neither reap nor sow yet our Father feeds them" and HE can cause them to see a worm in the grass from the highest treetops. How much more can HE cause us to see? How much more important are we than the birds? When we get a big flow of information/understanding, we call it an "epiphany" and it can change your whole life. Learn to clear your mind. Learn your types of thoughts. Don't give any time to negative thoughts or thoughts that don't help you. "The Spirit is the true teacher" and as long as you're wrapped up in the world, you'll never hear HIM. ❤️🙏
Very good
@The Muckler your parent's are receiving guidance as well... They were kids once. Do your parents cause you to recall past events or thoughts to come together at exactly the right time to cause an epiphany?
@@MississippiDan1 Any proof of these claims?
@@MrChiangching disprove what I've said... It's up to you. I've given you enough info. The next time something "occurs" to you, ask where it came from. If it's not perfect, disregard it because it's not from our Father.
@@MississippiDan1 You've made the claim, the burden of proof is on you. I have a invisible flying unicorn, disprove that.
Thank you. Praying means first, thanking and praising. Then present your request with "Thy Will be done", let the Holy Spirit flow thru me, ect. I have discovered satisfying answers in the study of the Complete Jewish Bible study. Blessings
👼_GOD one_ Ginney 🧚♀️ gooD
Yahushua will recompense in due time ,he is alert for the nod from YAHUAH and then the angelic warriors will carry out the plan ! The Meek shall inherit the earth,amein.
Yes I have a funny story ,my cat got a hold of my salamander and he ate his leg off well of course I scolded fluffy 🐈 and then I prayed that my salamander🦎 would grow his leg back ,but at the same time I also prayed that my little brother that lost his leg in a car accident would grow his leg back also , well God answered half of my prayer he grew the salamanders leg back but not my little brothers , I guess he must be two full of sin to receive God‘s healing, but good news the salamander is doing fine praise God.
@@markdemell8056 1c
@@glenmiller3931 1c ???
🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation:
00:00 📚 Introduction to the Veritas Forum and the speaker's journey from atheism to faith.
02:49 🧬 The human genome is a complex code that carries instructions for life's development.
04:14 🧬 DNA copying, mistakes, and their implications, including cancer and evolution.
06:10 🏥 The Human Genome Project's goals, achievements, and potential medical benefits.
08:56 🌄 Comparing stained glass art and DNA as symbolic representations of scientific and spiritual worldviews.
12:41 🕊️ Personal spiritual journey from atheism to faith through intellectual exploration and reflections.
17:44 🌌 Arguments suggesting the existence of a Creator: origins of the universe, fine-tuning, and purpose.
24:06 💡 Consideration of intentional design in the constants of the universe, pointing to a Creator's existence.
24:47 🌌 Francis Collins discusses the plausibility of the universe's existence and the application of Occam's razor, leaning towards the idea of a creator.
25:15 🧬 Collins explores the idea of a deist god based on Einstein's marvel at mathematics and the concept of fine-tuning arguments.
25:44 📜 Collins references C.S. Lewis's argument about the moral law as evidence of something beyond the material world.
27:08 🤝 He discusses human uniqueness in following a moral law and explores the universality of this law, raising questions about its origins.
28:43 🧬 Collins examines altruism and moral behavior from an evolutionary perspective but questions whether it fully explains the most profound acts of altruism.
31:06 🌟 Collins contemplates the presence of the moral law within humans as evidence for a God who cares about goodness and morality.
32:02 🛤️ After a journey of exploring evidence, Collins shares his personal conversion story, becoming a Christian, and finding peace and joy in his faith.
39:47 🔬 Collins provides scientific support for evolution through DNA analysis and explains how genes and pseudogenes reveal common ancestry.
44:13 🛑 Collins counters the idea that science can disprove God, highlighting the limitations of science in addressing supernatural concepts.
48:40 🙏 Collins reconciles evolution and faith by proposing that God's plan included evolution as the mechanism for life's diversity.
49:07 🧬 DNA is the language of God, reflecting the concept of "biologos," connecting life with God's creative word.
50:32 🌍 Theistic evolution harmonizes faith and science, suggesting that God's perspective of time differs from human perception.
51:42 🤔 The question of evolution being purely random is considered from the viewpoint of God's presence outside of time.
53:04 🔍 Intelligent Design (ID) claims like the bacterial flagellum are countered by the idea that complex structures evolved through gradual adaptation, not requiring divine intervention.
54:54 ❌ Intelligent Design (ID) is viewed as a "God of the gaps" approach and lacks scientific validity, as science continues to fill gaps in knowledge.
56:04 📜 The interpretation of Genesis in light of evolution involves considering literary, historical, and cultural contexts rather than a strict literal reading.
58:54 🙏 Prayer is a means of developing a relationship with God and gaining insights, promoting listening and reflection.
01:01:12 🕊️ Faith involves an element of doubt and humility, recognizing the limitations of human understanding.
01:06:15 🔬 The scientific evidence for an old universe and Earth contradicts the idea of a recent, mature creation.
01:10:47 🧬 The ongoing evolution of humans is explored, along with the ethical and religious implications of future human enhancement.
01:12:10 🧬 Mitochondrial DNA and nuclear DNA differences: Mitochondria have their own genes, but many mitochondrial proteins are encoded in the nucleus. The arrangement of genes in mitochondria and nucleus might be an ancient event with a common ancestor.
01:13:09 🧬 Evolution and Genesis: There's a tension between evolution and passages like Romans 5 and 1 Corinthians 15 that discuss human death as a result of sin. Different interpretations exist, with possible answers including spiritual death, free will, and the intention of the scriptures.
01:14:59 🧬 Human Death and Adam's Arrival: The interpretation of when human death began in relation to Adam's arrival varies. Some suggest human death began with the arrival of Adam's soul, while others emphasize a distinction between physical and spiritual death.
01:18:12 🎥 "Expelled" Documentary: The film "Expelled" misrepresented the academic treatment of intelligent design supporters and portrayed an inaccurate image of the scientific community. Intelligent design's scientific credibility is not widely accepted.
01:19:35 🙏 Miracles and Faith: Miracles, including events like Jesus' resurrection, are considered possible if one believes in God and that God authored natural laws. They can be seen as instances of God showing love and compassion.
01:22:06 🙏 God's Role in Tragedies: Tragic events like the Holocaust involve human actions driven by free will. God's non-interference is attributed to the existence of free will, which is considered a part of God's plan.
01:24:00 🧬 Genetics of Altruism: Altruism may have genetic components, but hereditary influences on generosity and altruism are minor compared to other factors. Genetic mechanisms don't necessarily diminish the role of God in altruistic behaviors.
01:26:46 🧠 Agnosticism and Belief: Agnosticism is a valid principled position, but it's important to explore the evidence and not use it as a means to avoid confronting spiritual questions.
01:28:24 🌀 Determinism, Free Will, and Quantum Mechanics: The uncertainty principle in quantum mechanics introduces an element of uncertainty that challenges strict determinism. Quantum mechanics allows room for free will to coexist with physical laws.
01:30:46 🧠 Journey Towards Faith: Each individual's faith journey is unique. While personal experiences and evidence can influence one's beliefs, there is no one-size-fits-all approach. The journey from agnosticism to belief is a personal exploration.
THANKS
Thank you for this!
Eyes have they that see not, ears have they who hear not.
Blessed are they who believe and have not seen.
Truly iAgree...
www.toughquestionsanswered.org/2015/10/05/have-computer-simulations-proven-darwinian-evolution-part-1/
But how do we explain why the jeopardy EXISTS?
And what knowledge Eve and Adam did or didn't, or were SUPPOSED to, have?
Terry Creagh Amen.
God did not create evolution. He created the world and all that is on it in 6 days. Billions of years is a lie from the devil.
Listen to the scientists that complete debunk that nonsense. It's truly awesome.
Video: Kent Hovind, Age of the Earth
czcams.com/video/JZR022_GbzU/video.html
God does not step in,he never stepped out.
@@faithtruth8036 - Young Earth Creationism doesn't explain any of the wonders we see in nature. It contradicts pretty much all we've learned in the last 300 years. It is an embarrassment for Christianity.
@@hansweichselbaum2534Bold statement but the claim is that what we see was designed by an infinitely powerful and wise being who is out side and beyond it's laws. Now the big bang hypotheses breaks the laws it proposes to explain.
@@faithtruth8036 "The Big Bang hypothesis breaks the laws it proposes to explain" …. there is so much wrong with your statement and it would take a lot of time and space explaining this to a non-scientist. I can only say that you need to have some understanding of science to critique science.
Let me ask you a sincere question: Coming back to Francis Collins, what do you question after listening to his talk (I assume you did listen)? Are you questioning the way he practices science, or do you question his belief in God?
As a scientist and philosopher of science I can assure you that his science is impeccable. It is recognised by every biologist, or let's say 99.9% of all biologists, believers and non-believers. So I assume that you criticise his belief in God, or his approach to Christianity. Please clarify to me what you don't like, or don't accept. I am genuinely interested.
@@hansweichselbaum2534 I never mentioned Frances Collins. Light speed is broken in the big bang, the law of cause and effect is broken, no adequate, despite some attempts to do so, has been offered to explain why the anti- matter and matter did not destroy each other at the start, why is all the matter not distributed evenly, instead we find Galaxies, why do some galaxies move in the opposite direction to others. I see you make the logical fallacy of appealing to authority but your 99.9% is probably incorrect I must conclude given all the Biologist I have heard denying the believe the Darwinian hypotheses. As evolution is not it's self a salvation issue I can't even guess on whether some one I never met is a true believer I hope he is.
@@faithtruth8036 "I never mentioned Frances Collins". Well, we are commenting here on a talk given by Francis Collins, so it makes sense to refer to his speech. You haven't heard of biologists accepting evolution? Probably not surprising if you get all your information from CIM (as I assume from the link you provided 3 months ago). By biologists I mean people who publish their work in peer-reviewed scientific journals.
I don't know why you insist on discussing the Big Bang theory, which by the way has been proposed by Georges Lemaitre, a Christian. I can't see what the movement of individual galaxies has got to do with the Big Bang!? If you want to defend the view that the universe is 6,000 years old we can lower the level of this discussion and concentrate perhaps on a topic in geology, any topic, or ice cores going back hundreds of thousands of years, or the nearest galaxy being 2.5 million light years away. No need to puzzle about anti-matter.
Prayer is thanking our Lord, praising Him, before anything. Blessings
This was a wonderful talk!
Thanks to all who put the money and energy into making it happen!
I prayed that our Lord may finds us all where we are. May He give us the courage to seek for His face and endure in our spiritual journey. May our personal testimonies serve to Glorify God Alone, Amen!
I can't see the connection to this video explain.
Well said Laura..I am reminded of Jesus Luke 18:8 "when the Son of Man comes, will He find faith on earth?" Two of us at least!
I've just found you, dear
Why could Satan reach Earth, again...?
chris sonofpear1 what exactly are you asking? I can probably answer your ?.
My God, how brilliant Francis Collins really is. He explains everything.
yes, as the bible says "The fool has said in their heart their is no God" And Adam and Eve were covered with the Glory of God, till they sinned and needed a blood sacrifice to get a fur to cover their nakedness. I am a Jew come to His forgiveness and friendship in amazing grace., thanks Roy and all
Exactly:)))
Rosalind Franklin obtained images of DNA using X-ray crystallography, an idea first broached by Maurice Wilkins.
Explains??? Were you watching something completely different than the video above? All he did was yammer on with doublespeak, advancing the grossly incorrect assumptions of the religion of naturalism while stating that the Bible is a complete lie.
@@markkw2454 thank you for your non biased commentary. I'm sure you're an expert on the field
Thank you Professor, I have been a follower of Jesus Christ since I was 7 when I accepted him as my saviour. I didn't grow up in a home where I was brought to church. As a child I went to a mission downtown and learned about Jesus. It wasn't until I was 21 that I truly recieved Jesus and was baptized into the family of God. Backslide for 17 yrs and have been the prodigal daughter, came back home in 1996 and have been following Jesus for the past 24 years. So much joy, love and peace. Love Jesus ❤❤❤
Jesus exists only in your mind.
Wow, the first time i’ve ever seen Dr. Collins make a presentation. Amazing
Now all you gotta do is find out where you can send him a check every now and then!
Francis Collins is so amazing even Christopher Hitchens often talked about how much he admired Collins. Only Sam Harris in his massive jealousy refused to give him his due credit.
“Even” ? Fuck Hitchins we don’t need his validation.
God did not create evolution. He created the world and all that is on it in 6 days. Billions of years is a lie from the devil.
Listen to the scientists that complete debunk that nonsense. It's truly awesome.
Video: Kent Hovind, Age of the Earth
czcams.com/video/JZR022_GbzU/video.html
@@dubletar7351 Maybe as Collins implied 6 "God Days" could mean Millions of "human years". After all God is an infinite being so time as we perceive it would be on a different plane outside our natural or physical understanding.
@@dubletar7351 Kent hovind is not a scientist, but he promotes pseudoscience.
@@dubletar7351 you say scientists and then cite Hovind
"Science doesn't say anything, scientists do."
Rosalind Franklin obtained images of DNA using X-ray crystallography, an idea first broached by Maurice Wilkins.
Actions speak louder...he speaks in decibels;.. . No one listens
Wonder if we still look at him the same way! And sincerely hoping God is watching out for us!
In the End of Days, one of the best things I ever heard
was the ending prayer of "Don't Look Up."
Dearest Father and Almighty Creator,
We ask for your Grace tonight.
Despite our pride.
Your forgiveness despite our doubt.
Most of all, Lord, we ask for your Love.
To soothe us through these dark times.
May we face whatever is to come in your Divine Will
With courage and open hearts of acceptance.
Amen.
@UC8muPVqBHJ_4Fzcb6R3-XJg Might take two hours to get good, but it does!
Why is don't look up the best prayer? ...don't understand?
The Christian god is a punisher from what I have read.
@@PicturesofTravel Creation ... Destruction ... Genesis ... Revelation are very much related.
@@kenmcclellan ....from all that I have read about the God of the Bible, I would try everything possible to avoid an eternity with him.
As an agnostic, this is probably one of the better arguments i've heard.
+MyNameIsJ3ff great reply to a well given presentation.what were the better arguments, or all were good. i would disagree with some of his conclusions, but he is smart guy. God's best
MyNameIsJ3ff Everybody knows that agnostics are closeted theists ;)
Nobody knows that for certain.
You could read his book :)
You could fill in notable OMISSIONS in the story, if you mean the bible, Sonali Handy ...
The more I learn..the more I believe..
Patricia Guerra, it’s funny how that works. God be with you. Seek Him daily. Shalom
@@michaelbrickley2443 And then ask what He did or not during the blood libel and the Inquisition - ahem.
Were they as crucial things to intervene on, as say, Numbers 15:32's events, also...
@@chrissonofpear1384 smh
Enjoyed this tremendously thank you for sharing
So far …. I am amazed that it takes such an educated person so long to figure out things that a few simple thought experiments could demonstrate. I have no advanced degrees, and I figured out a long time ago that there was no argument between ‘god’ and ‘science.’ But thank you for taking the time to explain things from your perspective! 😆
Lol @ _"no argument between God and science"_ 😂🤣😅🤣🤣 you either know nothing about science or you have never read the bible.
Early man I suppose knew of a heavenly presence long before the written word from the God of our making I am sure that the warmth of a fire was a blessing
Critical thinking, or spending time just pondering life and our world, is not a common pastime today.
Sometimes brilliant persons don't experience a need for God because they succeed more easily.
I liked his open heart story about that ill woman who changed his mind.
How amazing to hear a deeply intellectual individual elegantly verbalize spiritual ponders into words...
What if evolution or Intelligent design was factual and all accepted by everyone ? Liars bring fun to the challenge , liars will never create life just claim to being close to ,empty claims are a good sign of truth full achievement .
Spanky 541, you said it for me.
Exactly! That’s how I’m feeling watching this tonight
@@obiecanobie919 well technically they could both be true with God either way, but yeah macroevolution/common ancestry does not make any sense anymore after all the discoveries we made with DNA/complexity and the fact that theres no intermediate organisms, the only truth on that mattter is microevolution/speciation within each family
How awesome to hear an engaging speaker on a tough topic. Thank you for the presentation.
Last night in my dreams, Jesus came to me with a question: he wanted to know how a revolving door works.
Glad to hear some scientists are still willing to actually question about everything and go where the scientific data leads.
sir if you can just a break from being intellectually rational you will find that existence of God is the most rational conclusion of normal human being and great scientists who think right
@@adejokeloye Scientific data lead, belief does NEVER!
God did not create evolution. He created the world and all that is on it in 6 days. Billions of years is a lie from the devil.
Listen to the scientists that complete debunk that nonsense. It's truly awesome.
Video: Kent Hovind, Age of the Earth
czcams.com/video/JZR022_GbzU/video.html
HuckFinn the Bible never said the earth was made in 6000 years. Some people come to that conclusion based on the genealogy of Adam. But that still doesn’t say anything about the age of the earth. I haven’t yet to find scriptures supporting that.
The number of scientists who believe in a personal God is somewhere between 50 and 60%, just saying
Well now, Collins should view Robert Sapolsky video...”Are humans just another primate”..nope! Genius lecturer from...yes an unbeliever that for reasons only known to him hasn’t made the connection yet. Praying that he will of course!
Miracles are astounding and my good fortune has allowed me to see many. Those occasions were associated with an evangelistic event. Why the Lord doesn’t just do a big world visible event and draw all in would preclude faith. I went from agnostic to sold out in a matter of seconds. Something entered the room visibly in the form of light but not just any light. This light (the Holy Spirit) permeated every atom and I found myself undone. That was 35 years ago and still has me undone and loved by Him more and more on that daily basis. May H find you also.
God did not create evolution. He created the world and all that is on it in 6 days. Billions of years is a lie from the devil.
Listen to the scientists that complete debunk that nonsense. It's truly awesome.
Video: Kent Hovind, Age of the Earth
czcams.com/video/JZR022_GbzU/video.html
@briar patch Well stated Briar. So many to pray for! I was lost 40 years ago and Jesus found me. He's finding many all over His amazing world every day. Pray..pray and then pray more!
Robert Sapolsky is right
Thank you very much. I also had the similar exploring journey and came to be a Christian.
may I suggest that you listen very carefully to Rabbi ToVia Singer on TENAK TALK on youtube.
@@yisroelgranat9147 may I suggest you listen to Dr Baruch Korman at LoveIsrael?
"We and all of life (Creation itself) is God unfolding." Dr. Fletcher Harding
The great Christian preacher of our century... " ... to sum it up in a single sentence: He who claims to be both Son of God and savior and judge of humankind now stands before offering, if only we come to him, fulfillment, freedom and rest. Such an invitation from such a person cannot lightly dismissed. He waits patiently for our response. RSVP! " Why I am a Christian , John Stott
Of course , you must be joking ! Right ?
may I suggest that you listen very carefully to Rabbi Tovia Singer on TENAK TALK on youtube.
Wow this is an astounding teacher here whew thank you god for bro Francis Collins , he is a great archeologists also on his digs in Israel
He is a geneticist, are you sure you are not thinking of someone else
Many thanks for this! I first heard of Prof Collins and Personalised Medicine as an excited postgrad student when the first set of the Human Genome Project came out in 2003. Watching his awesome spiritual journey from the Fiji Islands. 🙏❤
Francis Collins the fraud with his NIH. I would bet anything on it that he isnt a Christian.
Be aware that the Roman-Catholic church/Rome is behind the NWO which is the ancient Baal cult of Babylon, ROMAN-Catholics are NOT Christians. They are idol worshippers worshipping the female goddess Ishtar/Easter/Isis/Venus and they call her "Mary" but thats not the Mary of the Bible.
Thats the "Statue of Liberty", the babylonian queen but also represents the female part of the devil (Lucifer can be male, female or BOTH - Transgender Propaganda).
If you want real good Bible (KJV1611) believing teachers then look up Robert Breaker, Charles Lawson, Gene Kim, Michael Pearl and Peter Ruckman.
just before he created COVID-19
@@marycauffield2508 Grow up child, people like me laugh at conspiracy freaks like you 😂🤣😅😂🤣😅
Good video, it shows why we still need evolution for more time, hopefully we become less ignorant.
It was really stimulating and encouraging discussion, objectively relating science, nature and God's supernatural role in creation. Dr. Collins scientifically provided how faith and hope help us to birth an eternal relationship between human beings and supernatural God. We must appreciate the distinct nature of Christianity as a relationship between the human beings and supernatural God . Our demand to bring down God to our level has to be submit to God's supernatural authority so that He reveals Himself to us graciously,
Rosalind Franklin obtained images of DNA using X-ray crystallography, an idea first broached by Maurice Wilkins.
Pretty wild!
All talk, no substance-revealed by his role in the p(l)andemic. Jesus said “By their fruit you will know them” and the Proverbs indicate a man is known by the morals of his close associates. ‘Nuff said! Word to the wise….
@@Rileyed As a Muslim which sect do you belong to?
@@Rileyed, It is better not to think God is a paternal property in any religion.
This guy is, unfortunately for atheists, very legit. Speaks the truth
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@Greg Jacques Lucifer's Jizz Gargler No, Christianity and all religions are bullshit, God isn't.
@Greg Jacques Lucifer's Jizz Gargler maybe they were 4.55 billion years ago and may have had gallons of jizz
I also think this is a excellent video , I love how he explained things.
Great listening to this guy. I have a dislike for preachers but consider myself a Christen. Mr, Collins is a Teacher. I* like Teacher of Truth science and faith. God Bless
Deep and Enlightening. Thank You for your message Dr. Francis Collin. God Bless you and keep bring forth the truth and the light of Jesus Christ!
may I suggest that you listen very carefully to Rabbi Tovia Singer on TENAK TALK on youtube.
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Please stop copying and pasting your comment. It’s boorish.
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@@Apriluser stop pushing Jesus on Us!!!
@elana kalker What is your problem?
Stop being so bothered to see people desiring to enlarge, that is, to help make better the lives of those around them. Everything about Christ makes life better, richer, more pure. Of course Knowledge of Jesus Christ makes life sweeter, and ultimately unity with Christ makes our lives Holy and secure. Who wouldn't want to share such a great good?! Everyone who shares Christ is desiring to build up those around them.
I enjoyed the video so thank you for posting. One of the main points that I can totally relate to and agree with is that the belief in God as a journey and not simply something that people jump into without putting any thought into it. The reality is that there are people in this world that DO NOT want God to be a part of their lives. That is why they can never and will never see the existence of a God being rational and logical because it is not the answer that they are looking to hear or see.
We must pray for them to receive the grace to believe. No one can call Jesus Lord unless graced by The Father. We must pray for our fellow man to receive the graces that bring belief. We know the eternal end away from God we want for no one and neither does God who wills all men to be saved but who, as a gentleman, forces no one, yet leaves evidence everywhere for His children to discover His infinite love of all of us.
If you can prove gods exist, I would be glad to have them in my life!
GO!
Martin Koch
prove that he doesn't exist
I never said "he" doesn't exist.
I don't know which "he" you are talking about.
The reality is that imaginary beings CAN'T be part of your life.
The biblical text shows a SPECIAL CREATION OF MAN!
I think more people should listen to his dissertation. Very will spoken and informational. Good job.
@@lepidoptera9337 God is all around you if you just care to look. You believe there's oxygen in the air but you can't see it. Everything you think you know about the universe was given you by words or pictures. You yourself NEVER travel out there to see for yourself. You truly believe the moon is solid even though astronauts came back claiming that it gong like a bell as if it was hollow. The fact you truly believe there is no God tells me you really haven't investigate all the possibilities
@@lepidoptera9337 No.... it is just information. What you do with it is up to YOU
In the Greek and Hebrew language, the word 'fear' actually has 3 meanings, this is why it is more difficult to translate to English, as we don't have an appropriate word to represent some of the true uses of the words and a general 'fear' meaning 'awesome respect' is used.
Awe, Reverence, Deep Love and Respect.
@@kellykizer6718 People are so quick to praise sports stars and movie stars etc. Yet not so quick to praise our father .
Like Moses felt in the presence of God Almighty.
@DasMakNT I think it's the same situation with the Greek/Hebrew word we've translated as 'jealous.' We generally define 'jealous' as being suspicious or possessive in a negative way. Another interpretation is being protective, mindful of wellbeing, careful and attentive.
@@kathleenmckenzie6261 So we must rely on stated actions, of this god, to find out what the meaning is, I guess.
And given Numbers 16:27, Jeremiah 2:30, and others, or 2 Samuel 12, a case can be made, for it being the former, not the latter meaning, say.
I am a poetry professor. Joseph Brodsky, a Russian poet, said that language is God. So this lecture fascinates me. Language I assume has a genetic basis which speaks our soul into a physical form. But language, especially poetry, takes us beyond the natural world into spiritual experience. As a mystic, I must agree with Carl Jung, one of the founders of the science of psychology, who said he did not believe that God exists because he knew from his own experiences that God exists. I love this lecture and I encourage curious, open minded people to explore through prayer and meditation and their dreams the existence and the nature and guidance of God. Thank you Professor Collins for helping to bring together science and religion as partners on the path to truth.
Another great thinker about language and God is Eugen Rosenstock-Huessy who wrote Speech and Reality and Origin of Speech. Both are mind-blowing!
Science - the after thoughts of God ...
The DNA code can also be seen as a language although it has fewer words.
well spoken :D
@@ckihooligan what does this have to do with existence of gods ?
Thank you Dr Collins for your veritas you are brilliant but very approachable an humble. God bless you
I am a witness of some entity talked to me when I was 12 year old playing alone in a park. I still remember I was asking God if you are there give me flying powers. If you exist give me power to levitate. I repeated that for long long time while playing with a swing. I still remember the loud voice coming from one of my shoulder. I still remember silence everywhere. And then I heard "if we break your legs then you will be happy?"
You can say anything but that sharp sharp and strong voice, it was not loud but it was definitely not from my brain. It was not like the voice we hear in our brain. IT WAS NOT MY BRAINS VOICE, IT HAD A DISTINCT SOUND". Well since then I believe in entities and if that entity cannot be identified then my friend that is also an alien(s).
-sorry for spell and grammatical mistakes.
You need to do some research into neuroscience and in particular transient psychotic episodes.
That’s a beautiful story!
Your English is very good. ♥️
Atheism replaces God worship with ego worship.
No it doesn't.
Elemental Based on the attitudes of many Atheists, it does.
Sorry I interpreted your comment as stating a tenant or requirement of atheism rather than a demographical claim, which I actually don't care about one way or the other.
***** Those are minorities in their respective groups.
Ricky909
Allow me to get this straight. You claim that many Atheists are egotistical from your personal inference, I claim that people who are religious are zealots from my personal inference. However, you counter my claim by saying those people are minorities in their respective groups? What then if I claimed that egotistical atheists are not a majority within the community of atheists, would you burden me for data to substantiate my claim?
Do you see now, how your claim is not logical?
I have Viteligo- a condition in which my olive skin is fast disappearing revealing the white skin below with zero melanin pigment. I know that if Africans have a deep scar on their skin, it will be light in colour with no melanin. It seems we are all white under our skin, and the colour is simply more concentrated levels of pigment. I cannot seem to stop the progress of losing my olive skin colour as I age :(
It's okay, we're all wretched sinners on the inside, who desperately need Jesus. 🙂✝️
My best friend has it all up and down her arms. She is beautiful inside and out. I knew her for years before she mentioned it. I had never even noticed.
Awe lady bug, I'm sorry you are going through that. Its hard when we feel something that is our identity changes. But your skin isn't all who you are, beautiful! ❤️
As a nurse… nothing made me more in awe of the Lord than Anatomy and Physiology… the smaller we went the more intricate and complicated EVERYTHING became… who but the Lord could do ALL THAT☺️😳
Lol complexity is NOTindicative of design, is Simplicity that designers aspire to achieve. We attribute design by contrasting it with nature. _"who but the Lord could do all that"_ why does it have to be a "WHO" ???? you present the same old god of the gap BS or as I like to call it the ( what else could it be argument ) .
It's a bit like when primative people couldn't explain thunder and lightning so they thought it was Thor having a hissy fit ( I mean what else could it be but a god ) 😂😂
Strangely EVERY SINGLE TIME the answer to an unknown that had previously been attributed to a god was discovered it was ALWAYS a natural explanation.
Free will, to do good or evil, is a product of Love. Bible tells us that God IS love. Love does not do control or take away someone's choices even if those choices are do harm. THAT right there is an extremely high view of humanity.
Francis Collins was listed along with Albert Einstein, Newton, Maxwell, max planck, galelio, Louis Pasteur, schrondinger, Werner Heisenberg, Leibniz and others as people who believed in a conscious and intelligent Mind behind which is the matrix of all that exists--God.
That was almost what I thought about Collins.
But no more.
One of the worst things a high-profile Christian like Francis Collins can do is to present his faith in God in public, then collude with criminals such as Anthony Fauci and Chinese Communists in the COVID-19 conspiracy. Even after his recent resignation, Francis Collins has shown no shame nor remorse in what he has done. It’s very clear Collins has decided to abandon his professed faith in Jesus and to continue working and colluding with the cabal of Satanists.
Wrong, Einstein believed in "Spinoza's god". look up
@@chi-yangcheng8868 You are crazy 🤣
@@chi-yangcheng8868 what an idiotic comment. you have fallen victim to the most absurd conspiracy theories.
1 thing I noticed is the continued (maybe intended) miss interpretation of Genesis. There are 2 creation stories in Genesis. In fact, there are multiple. I'll mention just 3, the creation of plants, animals, and people. Those are all creation stories that are very different but not at all contradictory because they are creations of different things. I would be a fool to say they were different so we must not be meant to take them seriously.
The same thing is true of Genesis chp 1 & 2. Genesis chp 1 is the creation of the heavens and Earth, 2 is dealing with the creation of the Garden on Earth. It says just that, "and God created a Garden." There He caused plants to grow and formed animals from the ground. God created man outside of the Garden and then placed man in it.
Someone pass that along to Mr Collins, because it would make taking him serious on this issue much easier if he got that right.
Francis Collins is posted Ng as a Christian to sell man-as-god transhumanism. His current role in global events , and in pushing certain RNA interventions on every single developing unborn child flow from thode intentions . He has also made his contempt for truth known in his deceptive use of changing definitions to obscure the crimes of Eco Health Alliance and Fauci's enabling role in them.
I’m glad I watched this but I’m grader that I’m not to intelligent nor do I have a high IQ I’m just an average man that had always believed in God he’s always as a very young boy pulled on my heart strings and I’ve always talked with him. Sometimes I didn’t believe he was listening at all but that draw was so strong I always have kept speaking to Him he even started speaking back. I’ve had an on and off personal relationship with God but my Faith in Him
Continues to grow and my comfort in him is secure and nothing will ever change that I don’t kneed a preacher to tell me nor a scientist to teach me my draw to God has always been in me
Believing and knowing..2 absolutely completely different things!! It's better to know,then to believe!😎
Why would an intelligent creator be bound to any of the idiotic religion we have?? Religions are talk-much ado about nothing!
Does anyone have a link to the old Stephen Colbert interview he references? I can't find it on CZcams...
I can't find it either
I was raised Christian from infancy up. Although I attended weekly meetings, smaller assemblies, larger conventions and even took part in public witnessing I started questioning my beliefs in my early 20’s. I became agnostic for a few years. This video would’ve been very helpful back then. Fast forward many years later - I’m a believer today.
I'm confused are you now a gnostic theist when previously you were an agnostic theist?
Why?
may I suggest that you listen very carefully to Rabbi Tovia Singer on TENAK TALK on youtube.
@@yisroelgranat9147 you may suggest it but it ain't going to work
Amen.
Brilliant!👋👋👋
I just experienced God through His miracle for my husband. Now I have this hunger of Him 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
@@connorlancaster7541 Then what guidance did Augustine, and Torquemada get, thanks. Specifically, about blood libels, and other things.
And how did Jesus feel, about their results. It's hard to follow one, also, if they rarely talk, during times of upheaval.
Or at least, talk openly. I'll leave aside who jeopardy came from, for another day.
@@chrissonofpear1384 Augustine was a heretic
Francis Collins started this project as an athiest, by the end he not only believed in Christianity, he even renamed the Genome project “The Language of God” lol. What a realization, science by definition is a religion as well so this whole video is amazing. Life is such a blessing
omg a genius who believes in God. This is incredible Its too bad Richard Dawkins could have been that smart. I think Einstien and Dr. Collins would have incredible conversations. Yes there is evolution but God created this incredible mind. This is a case that proves science and God go hand in hand. If it were not for God none of science would have existed as it does. All praise to God for giving us awesome minds like Dr. Collins
Jill Vander Plaats I hate to let you down but Einstein did not believe in a Creator.
He only believed in the god of Spinoza, I will let you research what that means.
Now Isaac Newton, and others, did and do.
Humanity has been duped by these ancient superstitious fables. We've all been duped. And the worse part about it is that those of us who have been duped to a point of no return actually going around duping others in the name of evangelism and religious preaching, etc.
Everyone has their own personal "apologies" for these outrageously absurd myths, and none of those apologies hold any rational water whatsoever.
It's truly unbelievable how we, as humans, have been so totally gullible to these outrageously silly myths. And some people take them extremely seriously and somber, but in fact, these myths are as utterly silly as they can be.
Christianity tries to remove itself from the absurdities of the Old Testament and try to create a new religion based upon a supposedly "loving" God in Jesus. But that really doesn't work. All Christianity ends up doing is using Jesus as fodder to support a God who hates unbelievers again In fact, the story of Jesus is based upon the standard demigod superstition which was actually quite old hat by the time the Jesus fables were created. Jesus is a demigod superstition no matter how much Christian want to deny it.
None of these fables have any merit at all. Yet people, for some strange reason, feel such a desperate need to support these religions to their death. This probably stems in-part from an underlying subconscious belief that if they stand up for this God they will indeed appease the God and be rewarded. And they may even have a feeling that if they fail to support these myths they will somehow be turning their backs on God and becoming a sinful "unbeliever".
These myths are without a doubt one of the most powerful brainwashing schemes ever created by mankind to be sure.
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Rick...May the God of the universe expose Himself to you in such a way that you too will KNOW there is God.
Bless you.
@@Suzi195 May rational thinking become obvious to you , So you can leave behind all your ancient superstitions that have plague mankind for eons , May the natural forces of the universe become apparent to you sometime in your lifetime . I don’t say this as a prayer to a God, but as a plea to your rational ability to think.
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Amen!
I love Dr. Collins' tie! :)
Best part is at 22 mins as he goes into third possibility when he draws conclusion with Occams Razor and reinforces at 24:36
I am really excited if a great minnd like Prof. F. Collins would encounter Dr. Scott Hann to settle or expound any doubt about science and faith.
I loved every second of this. . . listen to it all the time,really does fill me with awe.
Exactly:)))
Me too
When we finally come face to face with God - I strongly suspect that our greatest surprise is going to be that God is nothing like we thought he was during our lifetime. In one of the psalms God tells us - "Be still, and know that I am God." - Not trying to understand in order to believe, but rather, simply believe, and spiritual understanding will come.
Aren't the Psalms Jewish hymns?
Everyone has that special person who enters their life and asks them a question. A question of such magnitude, often a simple one, which changes their perspective because it requires a deep inventory of our beliefs. So you remember a question like that in your life?
Thank you very much for your wonderful knowledge. In the Agree with the light and connection between the DNA. The Alis is the connection how I found this and everything is connected within.
The shutting off of a "switch" (GULU) does not prove that something evolved. Would a light switch in my house that is OFF be proof that my house evolved from my neighbor's house because she has a light switch that is ON? Surely not.
And guess what, the switches on both houses seem to be assembled the same way. In fact, the switches on all houses seem to be construed with much commonality. Does that prove evolution? No. It proves the creator made switches that can be turned on and off by unknown persons (or in the case of DNA-- unknown factors.)
houses don't reproduce/impart characteristics
God is Light, God is Higher wisdom. "When you kindle light, you place it above all things, that it may illumine the darkness
@@WarriorOfWriters Whether or not houses reproduce or not, Godis TruthseekTruth's tatement is valid. It's not clear why he decides that the presence of a shutoff GULU is proof of evolution. It may simple be valid that certain life form have GULU and if not used, it is not required then it is shut off. No need to trace its existence to another life form that has it. In fact, if he is to introduce this element of genomics into the debate, then he must fully introduce all facets of the subject matter. Let him explain other similarities and difference between the genes of the different life forms.
God did not create evolution. He created the world and all that is on it in 6 days. Billions of years is a lie from the devil.
Listen to the scientists that complete debunk that nonsense. It's truly awesome.
Video: Kent Hovind, Age of the Earth
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Let me know when Dubletar backs up his claims, or how heaven suddenly becomes imperfect, or how one third of ALL angels (upper limit) suddenly DEVOLVE in that realm, right under the nose, of YHWH, it is claimed? With sin arising there, basically, from nothing, also?
Wow amazing! I love to get the scientific information from scientists who believed in God.
And God saw the Millions of years of death and destruction and said it is good. Of course Allah is the author of both good and evil so perhaps this video promotes Allah the moon god.
@@faithtruth8036 How does this video promotes Moon God worship?
Francis Collins is a Christian, he's not a Muslim.
@@carloswater7 The Quran can accommodate evolution. Jesus states that at the beginning He made them male and female. Now I know that Jesus was a carpenter and not as educated as you and Dr Collins but he is a pretty big name in Christianity and some of us take what he said seriously.
@@faithtruth8036 Actually, Jesus Christ was more educated then me and then mr. Collins, even people who don't believe in God have called Christ A very wise man. When you wrote that "you take seriously what he said" what's your point with that?
I don't understand what is your point you're talking about the Quran. I don't believe in the Quran.
@@carloswater7Mark 10:6 says, “But from the beginning of the creation, God ‘made them male and female.’” From this passage, we see that Jesus clearly taught that the creation was young, for Adam and Eve existed “from the beginning,” not billions of years after the universe and earth came into existence.
Jesus made a similar statement in Mark 13:19 indicating that man’s sufferings started very near the beginning of creation
The parallel phrases of “from the foundation of the world” and “from the blood of Abel” in Luke 11:50-51 also indicate that Jesus placed Abel very close to the beginning of creation, not billions of years after the beginning.
Jesus also believed in a literal global flood: Matthew 24:38-39
By most standards, Jesus would qualify as a Young Earth Creationist. Of course what I was implying is that this video trolleys better with other religious book I gave the Koran as an example. He also states that he could live with the idea creation is an extension of God that is pantheism. God is before and beyond His creation and when He destroys it and brings the new heaven and Earth He still is.
“There is no happiness where there is no wisdom;
No wisdom but in submission to the Gods.
Big words are always punished,
And proud men in old age learn to be wise.”
Sophocles (496-406 BCE) -- Antigone
As a scientist, Collins is a giant. As a theist, I would place in in the religious Hall of Shame.
I can't find the Colbert interview in youtube. if you happen to have the link, please share.
I can't as well
I keep hearing this phrase "over a long period of time." And from what I have read and heard, this specifically means "millions of years." I am puzzled by this because I watched "BBC Documentary 2017 - The Theory of DNA Science" where it traces all humanity to a single man, "Scientific Adam," who lived 60,000 years ago. The other thing that puzzles me is how such complex structures like the eyes, ears, nose, brain, heart, nervous -, respiratory -, digestive -, reproductive -, -systems, etc could have simultaneously and perfectly come together at the right time to form a complete and fully functioning human being. I just cannot imagine this though what my mind sees is some grotesque monstrosity which is disproportionately human and animal, and this is definitely not supported by the fossil records. I'm not against evolution but my question takes its analogy from the Big Bang. Just like in the case of the Big Bang, why not say, God started the process and then created the laws that continue to sustain and drive the process? In this case applied to evolution, God created all things as "complete and complex" ("fearfully and wonderfully made" if you are a Christian, and Gen 1's creation story). Then He put "Laws of Evolution" to help creation adapt and adjust to the changes in the physical environment. Like how Richard Dawkins says, "then things really get off on a run." This would be my humble version of "Theistic Evolution" and sounds more plausible than suggesting that evolution through "small incremental changes over a long period of time" produced the intricate and amazing complexities of life as we know it. That would need yet another step of faith. And here there is no conflict between science and faith once again. Science will continue to discover new laws, whether in physics, chemistry, mathematics, astrology, biology, and even evolution because they have been put in place by a creator God who is intelligent, personal and real. I'm not a scientist, and I may be ignorant of the scientific details, so please take what is helpful and chuck what's not.
I agree with you! The only way "evolution" seems plausible is when it didn't involve millions of years of natural selection to make new organisms. Whatever forms of life God initially created (and I am inclined to think they were indeed "kinds"), He created them in such a way that they already had all necessary genetic information to adapt to their environment. All this "junk" DNA is probably a huge epigenetic system, that allows an organism to aquire new features quickly, within one-three generations. When environment dictates what genes are turned on. God commanded living things to fill the Earth. That's how all the species appeared, with specific features for their niche. And it didn't take millions of years. For example, it was discovered that chickens have a gene for teeth! Evolutionists think that it proves it's left from dinosaurs! But I think it is actually one of those things that allowed many animals to quickly become carnivores after the Fall.
Your ignoring all the scientific laws and the laws of logic and reasoning.
Also you don't get something from nothing, science.
You don't get life from none life.
You don't get both time always existed and in the beginning, logic and reasoning.
Atheist mocked the Bible on this issue alone for a long time.
At least until Einstein and the hubble telescope revealed that the universe has a beginning.
That should of been end of discussion, but no atheist refused to admit they could possibly be wrong.
Proof atheist are not logical and refused reasoning.
It's an emotional decision......logic and reasoning have nothing to do with it.
You're mixing up creationist ideas with science. No evolutionary scientist claims everything came together all at once to produce a fully formed organism. Every thing you named, guts, brains, bones, etc., have evolutionary predecessors. Evolution can only build on what already exists in a species. Yet sometimes epigenetics, or a single switching gene, such as hox genes, can cause large structures for which coding already exists to appear seemingly out of nowhere. But overall, a steady development of features can be traced in both fossils and genomes of every significant structure of plants and animals. Everything started out much simpler, even as far back as single celled life with only one ATP transport mechanism and no mitochondria.
The Bible details God making Eve from Adam's "rib;" the original word translated "rib" in English meant, in Hebrew, "curve." Perhaps this was a reference to Adam's DNA ("curved").
No. It wasnt. But keep reaching though
DID SOMEONE SAY MCRIB
The universe is so complex and smart in it's existence there must be a Creator. And this unimaginable smart and complex Creator popped into existence from nothing infinitely long ago, existed an infinite time before making the universe, earth and of course humanity and will exist infinitely after the universe is gone. That really makes sense does it?
The evidence points to the Creator God. You’d prefer to believe in a multi verse? Or aliens seeding the atmosphere?
@@michaelbrickley2443 a few centuries ago people did not understand thunder and lightning, so that had to be the work of God. Not much had changed: people still credit things they don't understand to some higher power.
It doesn't solve the fundamental problem: who or what created the higher power? An even higher en more complex force created by an even more complex Creator? God is not the answer but the question.
This is the Perfect exemple of an argument from personnal incredulity....aka logical fallacy... i'm sorry but a frozen waterfall separated in 3 is not, and never Will be a proof of god....
time space and matter poped into existence at one point. We think on the basis of time because of time. Time did not exist before it was created. How could you apply such logic to a Creator that existed before time was created? You are subjecting a timeless being in the confinement of time which is your own prison in which you perpetuated all thought. Who created God? Are you suggesting that there was a linearly timeline in which at one point this Being poped into existence? Are you suggesting that before that point in which this Being poped into existence, there was a timeline that existed infinitely? You are confined by time and hence you think linearly. You subject God to a mind subjected to think in a linear fashion, and to apply logic on the basis of time. God says through the Word, "I AM WHO I AM", "I AM". God just is, human being are incapable of thinking beyond our constraint.
@@AdrieKooijman was, is and always will be. You’re looking at a question we cannot know the answer to except what we’ve been told. You’re looking at an endless regression that is unnecessary, unanswerable and foolish in the extreme.
Dr. Collins has always been a great inspiration to me. A real class act. Very honored to have had him on our podcast.
@wassup93
Jesus: Hey Timmy, you see that man over there?
Timmy: Yes, Jesus I see him.
Jesus: He is the man that killed you and your family. He asked for forgiveness and he is with us now in Heaven. Why don’t you go over there and say hello.
Really appreciate your channel. Please keep bringing us this great content.
A very good speaker. I thoroughly enjoy the entire presentation which I seldom do at CZcams.
Appreciated Collins here. Wish he had more integrity about CoVID
James Sgian he resigned, I believe he learn the truth of Fauci and decided to resigned after he is a Christian and I won’t be surprised the Holy Spirit spoke to him. God is not silent ? I’m sure it will all come out in the end . Christianity is not a religion is a relationship with Jesus through the Holy Spirit .
@@amoyjoyce1117 COVID-19 is real my friend.
He is not a liar, he's a genius.
If there's a thin line between idiot and genius, this nut is on the idiot side for sure.
As a cradle Catholic, I have no problems with my faith, not even questions, lead and live my life as Jesus's taught us but it is interesting to hear other people's thinking about their faith or the lack of a relationship with God. Thank you Dr. Collins for sharing with us.
1st time I have ever seen a catholic actually talk about Jesus...they usually talk mary, and upside down crosses or whatever it is they do on their chest when praying to mary or anyone else, except Jesus and the Father God...the vatican is a snake building by the way....even the sidewalks splits off for the forked tongue, super creepy...google map the vatican, zoom in till you see it, if you have eyes to see that is...
Thank you for coming back to God.
Thank you; the journey experience may vary, however, it may challenge one to pursue more evidence. Very interesting discussion, thank you.
where does
“The LORD God formed
the man from the dust
of the ground and breathed
into his nostrils
the breath of life..."
fit into evilution?
Hi, Chris. I suppose the first question to ask you in reply is whether your question is sincere or rhetorical. The answer would depend on your reply to that question. You see, if your question is rhetorical, then you suppose yourself to have understood the underlying reality, and are unwilling to consider things which might revise your understanding. This might be analogous to Dr. Collins before he became willing to explore the questions related to ultimate meaning. On the other hand, if your question is sincere, then you suppose yourself not necessarily to be in possession of all the relevant data. This might be analogous to Dr. Collins while he was pursuing the questions which eventually culminated in his act of faith.
On the assumption that your question is sincere, I could give the answer that many, including Augustine, gave. Exactly how or with what duration God formed man out of the same dust of the earth from which he also formed the rest of the animal kingdom, the Bible does not say. It is therefore legitimate to suppose that God formed man from the dust of the earth, rather than from nothing, by forming the earth with such properties that it could give rise to man. What the Bible does say is that man is unique and distinct from the other creatures that God formed from the dust of the earth precisely in that God breathed His own Spirit into man, making man's life qualitatively different from the other creatures that God formed from the dust of the earth.
I hope that helps. God bless you.
@Gregory Barrett
hi Gregory
my question was not rhetorical
but i thank you for a sincere answer
though i believe it to be incorrect.
thankfully these issues are not
Salvation show-stoppers
for either of us but the responses
may influence others either way
so it is important to keep the dialogue,
as you did, equitable and objective
according to scripture
God created man in a day,
on the sixth day, to be precise.
on the other hand our scientific
analysis seems to point to earth
having taken 4.5 billion years
to form. This should provide
plenty of time for chance to bring
the correct molecules together
to form the proteins needed for
life and from there make the necessary
amino acids, etc.
scripture doesn't allude to any of this.
Exodus 20:11 categorically says that
Abba made heaven and earth in 6 days.
He named the seventh day a rest day.
hmmmm-we want the six days to mean
four billion years or so but let the seventh
day be a Saturday?
i prefer to believe the bible, especially
now that so much evidence is
proving its accuracy in so many
other (astounding) ways.
lastly i quote Paul in Romans 3:4-
"Let God be true
"and *every* man a liar."
hmmmm, don't believe ANYTHING
any man tells you if it contradicts
or is not supported by God's Word.
blessings Gregory,
in the Name of
Yeshua ha'Mashiach,
our Beloved Saviour.
@@chrisneeds6125 Hi, Chris. Thank you for your reply. Truly it is wonderful to dwell on the riches of God' grace for us as we consider Sacred Scripture, so I thank you also for recalling those wonderful verses.
This is going to be a fairly long comment, as I make my way through your reply. I start by laying a bit of groundwork.
We learn from metaphysics that everything can be considered from at least four perspectives. The first is material; what it's made of. The second is formal; what about it determines what it is. The third is efficient; by what process it came to be what it is. The fourth is final; the end or purpose or objective for which the other three were invoked. The world [cosmos, universe, visible creation] was made for man, so that he could thank God for the wonder of his own being, for the wonder of creation which also intimates the glory of God, and so be led to appreciate more fully the God who is author of all good.
My perspective diverges from yours in several important ways. We know in several ways that Genesis 1-2 not just is not but cannot be intended to be understood as a consecutive sequence of six 24-hour periods. To indicate only a few of the several ways:
-We now know with astonishing detail and precision that what establishes the 24 hour cycle that we call a day is a complex interaction involving the rotation of the earth on its axis, the angle of inclination of the axis of the earth to the plane of its orbit about the Sun, the orbit of the earth about the Sun, the orbit of the Moon about the earth, the revolution of the Solar System in the Milky Way Galaxy, and the progression of the Galaxy through space. Without all of those being in place and operative, we don't have an evening and a morning, a [nother] day. Yet three days pass, yielding light, condensed water, and soil, before God makes stars, the Sun, the Moon, days, months, and years.
-Genesis 1:1-2:4 relate in poem form a liturgical process in which God sevens Himself, covenants Himself, to His creation. There is much to ponder here, and dwell on, but this is neither a diary segment nor a newspaper report.
-Genesis 2:5-4:26 tells the story of the beginning of the covenant people. This includes the story of origins in 2:5-2:25. In this story we encounter something reminiscent of a barren wasteland, then man, then plants, then animals, then woman.
-These have very different structures and purposes from the liturgical glory immediately preceding. Whether you read Genesis 1-4 as a single simple chronological report or as two distinct creation narratives, you are hard put to find a coherent understanding which receives the details as historically precise. On the other hand, if you receive them as very different approaches to putting an exclamation point on the sole transcendent self-existent being creating the universe in order to provide for man entering in love as fully as possible into His own boundless life of goodness, truth, and beauty, then questions of historical chronology become insignificant, irrelevant, distracting, and an indication of a deficient understanding of the author's purpose.
Returning to your comments, I wouldn't expect God to allude to amino acids, for at least two reasons. In the first place, I wouldn't expect God to allude to amino acids in the same way that I wouldn't expect an elementary school second grade teacher to allude either to second-order multivariate differential equations or to amino acids: it would mean nothing to the children and actually distract from the lesson. In the second place, Sacred Scripture is about our relationship with God, both here and hereafter. Whether one is intensely interested or completely indifferent to technical details about the visible creation, what is of the essence is the character of that relationship. That is where God keeps the focus.
Exodus 20:11 is situated in the very core of God making a covenant with the people of Israel, of God sevening Himself. It is not only not surprising, it is to have been expected that He would refer back to his whole purpose in creating the universe: to seven Himself. Man correspondingly actively participates in sevening himself in the very structure of his organizing his ongoing pattern of life.
Since it is God both who revealed Himself in His creation of the world as a reflection of His own nature and who revealed Himself in inspired Scripture, and God is truth, and truth is one, there can be no contradiction between what God has revealed in creation and what God has revealed in Sacred Scripture. Therefore it is necessary to attend with care in studying all that God has done, in order to understand rightly what it is that God has revealed. If there is an apparent difficulty in reconciling what seem to be the conclusions of the various disciplines, then there is a set of strategies for confronting the difficulty. In the first place, I am to call my own understanding into doubt: either I have not rightly understood what the findings of science are, or I have not rightly understood what the findings of theological studies are, or I have not rightly understood how they relate to each other. In most cases of such (rare) apparent difficulty, this is enough to clear up the difficulty. If I'm able to get past the question of my misunderstanding the results in each field and of their relationship, then I carry it back one layer: those who have developed the conclusions giving rise to the apparent difficulty have not rightly understood one or other or both matters, or have not rightly understood their relationship. Finally, if I'm able to get past those questions, then I simply wait patiently for those developments which will resolve the difficulty and which God has reserved for a future age to clarify.
I appreciate the perspective you're expressing in discussing Romans 3:4. The heart is perverse, and desperately deceitful, so it is appropriate to exercise care and caution. The first target of this distrust is of course always the self, who can be led astray by specious arguments even of its own devising without even realizing it, and is the only heart that can actually tempt the self, but to a lesser extent it is appropriate similarly to exercise care in dealing with others. With specific reference to Romans 3:1-8, however, I would say that Paul is arguing for courage and trust. The structure of the sentence in verse 4 is in the subjunctive, and is saying that, no matter what, we can have confidence in God who is always true and faithful, even if there be some (cf. v. 3) who in themselves or at significant moments are untrustworthy, since God will use even that to advance His glory and our good and the good of all who receive it. Thus in the midst of our fears and actual injuries we can step forward in doing good with confidence both that God will supply our shortfall and that He will care for us as we follow Him. In such confidence theologians and biblical scholars developed profound insights into special revelation, and found ways to communicate such insights. In such confidence scientists discovered and developed the wonders that human minds have wrought, some of which have provided motives of credibility (what some people by analogy and exaggeration call proofs--not exaggeration in your case, Chris; you refer to correspondence of particular details) of the gospel.
God bless you, Chris.
Gregory Barrett The Holy Spirit is with you brother. God bless you.
@@gregorybarrett4998
Hi Gregory
CZcams failed to advise me that you had responded.
The one thing fundamentalists have going for them, is the simplicity of their understanding.
When we start to over analyse things we tend to move away from the perfect essence of the Word into one or more of the various forms of error that are in the world, and indeed have been, ever since the fall.
I trust that you are well and that you and your house are Saved;
Chris
From someone who has been watching these debates and videos as an atheist, and agnostic, and finally a Christian for over a decade, let me tell you this: 48:25, the slides on the screen --that is the Christian framework when you divorce it from the religious dogma of mere humans.
48:25
My father taught me at a young age that God is the Creator of all the sciences and that He is the Master scientist.
Absolutely!! You had a great Dad. Those that put off the notion God created, I show them...
Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We KNOW these laws. We have NO doubts about them. We also KNOW that the laws of nature can't come about without a Lawgiver, God.
So if you want to pretend to be smart, please give me the laugh by giving your science how creation really happened by natural means. Also, throw in how we got the laws of nature, naturally.
At a young age a childs mind is very susceptible to what their parents say.
Even if it is completely wrong it will be very hard to shake that off in later life. (most Christians stay Christians and most Muslims stay Muslim)
Was your father also taught those same ideas by his father or did he come to that conclusion with his own critical thinking?
@@eddievandriver2273 I showed critical thinking.
God has nothing to hide since He has ALL the evidence. Losers have NO evidence.
and yet his book was completely wrong about the universe, the earth, everything. so i guess not an actual scientist then.
@@2fast2block sounds like god is the biggest loser, since in thousands of years not one out of countless billions of people has been able to present a single shred of evidence for god’s existence. if god actually existed, he could just show up and say hello.
Happy listening to all these information. Thanks. Somehow confusing with all that is happening now.Maybe it is best to pray for a better outcome.
At the most crucial part of his talk, 41 minutes and 30 seconds in to it up until 44 minutes and 15 seconds into it, when he shows us the linear chart of the human, the cow, and the mouse, he points out that the gene in the middle of the human is defective, it's downgrading, it's pseudo, he told us how this is evidence that all three species came from the same ancestor and that firmly proves that evolution is true. Well if it is true, he did a very poor job of giving the evidence as to why one should conclude that this proves what he says it does. From my intelligent yet lay mind, it stands to reason that this would go the other direction towards concluding that we do not come from the same ancestor because one of the species has a pseudo defective Gene. Not a consistent match. Other than that the rest of his presentation was excellent and easy to understand. I'm a Christian who does not have a problem with theistic evolution. But I have yet to see any evidence presented that it is true. Even if macro evolution is true it does not eliminate the need or existence of God because you still have to explain where the first life came from, where did this extremely fine tuned universe come from, and where did this extremely fine-tuned and complex information filled body and Spirit come from?
I suggest you look at the evolution of the eye if proof of evolution is what you need.
However, I don't see why evolution of species would disprove the existence of God. If you can prove that all of it, time, history, and evolving species, which is a constant, is NOT part of God's greater plan we are yet to understand, I may listen. Science and faith can, in my opinion live alongside each other. Hence why we were given the ability of critical thinking, and to question things.
Have you looked into the scientifically proved God molecule and radio frequencies ability to alter water. I think it would interest you. Now there was a very Catholic brought up turned atheist turned Catholic true believer scientist.
Its because it says so explicitly clear in genesis that God created man, directly. Theistic evolution is crock of 💩 and a copout
There has never been an example observed of a beneficial mutation or one kind of animal or plant for that matter producing anything other than its kind
My car and an airplane may both have a similar metal bolt so theyre related? Haha
If you're a Christian,then the Bible should be what you believe in.Genesis is very clear on creation.
Thank you for saving me so much time. Such a weak theory, I agree. For me, besides prayers answered and such, what always convinces me is that history keeps matching to biblical records. Although I believe certain parts of the bible were changed by cults to make Jesus's story a child sacrifice and one of reincarnation, instead of a God being coming down and telling us that we live after death in a place full of life and love. Why they made a God who fought child sacrifice into one that sacrificed his own child, I think I know. It was two fold, one, it made God a hypocrite, two, it enabled the sun cult to equate the phoenix sun to the God son, who goes into great darkness for three months or three days, then comes back to full power. Maybe the Q like being, (Star Trek person of great power) did come down fully grown but did let himself get crucified to show that death was not the final destination. Idk. But the cults did place Jesus's birthday the days after the sun starts getting brighter again, the sun's rebirth at winter solstice. Maybe the cult did this so that they could convince people that their false religion was the founding of Christianity, which I don't believe it was. You would think there were no cults in power back then that could pull off such a thing, but the cult of Mithras was very much powerful and very much like the freemasons of today who are helping people turn the USA and Australia into communist prison countries.
I found this video maybe not by chance. I appreciate this video. I'm convinced. From now I'm turning my life over to the Lord.🙏🙏.
We can't please THE ALMIGHTY without FAITH
Listen to you guys from Birmingham, Alabama. ✝️❤️
A just so story to explain away irreducible complexity.
There is no such thing as Irreducible complexity.
I would like to have Dr. Collins answer to this: You just provided us prove about existence of evolution by considering loss of gene function. But how can you explain creation of genes and increased complexity of new genes in higher life forms.
Wouldn't the answer to that be that DNA grows?
Being a person of Faith, is nowhere near the same journey as a person of science, mathematics, or of religion, we find a journey of thought as individuals draw to seek answers.......What do you tell a child when they see angels, and demons before the people in that life of a child is surrounding them with teaching or has the answers?
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Wow ! Always have said this . Science has only proven God is real that science shows us how God made it all work not by chance but by design 🙏💕
I found this information extremely troubling. I am not questioning the scientific information, what is most concerning is the Pandora's Box that is opened when you consider a God that set everything in motion billions of years ago and allowed "life" to develop via a pre-coded genetic plan that would eventually evolve into "humans" by the processes of mutations, and adaptations to the particular environments in which the life forms were existing in. "How are we supposed to reconcile this with the Creation of Adam"? I have been taught that adaptation and mutations occur within all life forms but that the changes are within a certain species. That is to say that fish don't become lizards, alligators don't become dogs and muskrats don't become monkeys. I have also been taught that the skeletal/fossil record does not currently have any transitional skeletal remains to substantiate this theory. I do concede that I may be wrong with this view point if evidence has been found. What happened in the Garden of Eden?; who was the serpent that tempted Eve?, how does Genesis 6 fit into this bio-logos theory? What is the reason for Gods Intervention at this specific point in time? I am not opposed to an old earth theory but I am having trouble reconciling Mr. Collins evidences although I do concede that you can not argue the evidence that he presented, we have to understand God while also considering the evidence that science is giving to us while being extremely careful not to explain what we don't understand just to have an explanation. How bout this for example: At some point, the ancient astronaut theorists begin to look more right than not when you consider a theory that God allowed evolution to happen over millennia. What I am getting at here is that if the flood is caused to rid the planet of a changed genetic encoding that was possibly due to something that happened in the garden of Eden, what now is to say that aliens didn't descend from the sky and make those changes to the DNA code? "If we are to listen to the DNA evidence concerning evolution then why not have a change to that DNA code that is outside of the code written by God which caused humanity to be separated from HIs creation"?? If aliens are involved, I am not sure what I believe anymore. Watching this video may have been more damaging to my faith than anything that I have ever considered. If we have evolved as Mr. Collins says we have, then I would also submit that we are not done evolving? I wonder if the encoding of the DNA can help us to see into the future; can we predict what we will become next??? Although Mr. Collins presented some extremely good information, I think there are still gaps that he can not account for. Oh and I do not buy into the ancient astronaut theory, I am only bringing that up as a way to show where the mind can go if you follow supposed evidences.
Trust God theses people are trying to prepare you to accept things that are not in line with God's word. Remember he said if it were possible even the very elect would be deceived don't be deceived.
The incredible complexity of the human eye is enough to prove design. There’s no way it happened by chance I don’t care how long you give it.
@Mel Dummar If you want to find an atheist just go to any CZcams video that supports God. I find that funny.. Oh…and one that supports the Christian God particularly for some reason.
"Complexity" is NOT indicative of design, is simplicity that designers aspire to achieve, we attribute "design" by contrasting it with nature. Frequently, believers in irreducible complexity cite the eye as an example of something too complex to have evolved. They frequently introduce the argument with a question of the type, "What use is half an eye?". However if the question is recast as "Given a choice, would you prefer to be completely blind or have 50% of your present vision?", then it becomes clear that the question is badly formed, especially when keeping in mind that many species manage to survive with significantly less-advanced eyes. Examples include the polychaete worms, which can distinguish between light and dark; the simple eye-cup of the flatworms, for finding the direction of a light source; jellyfish and scallops, with simple eyes for detecting movement;the famous compound eyes of the insects, which can make out simple shapes, and ultimately the sophisticated single-lens eyes of the molluscs and vertebrates.
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Light-sensitive proteins could evolve through a random mutation and re-use pre-existing cascade structures to signal other proteins and activate the cell. Natural selection would prefer organisms which do something useful with this mutation, such as improving the feeding pattern (i.e., during the day food may be more abundant, so conserving energy during the night would be advantageous).
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If one cell is evolutionary advantageous, then several cells may be more advantageous due to redundancy and due to the higher probability of successfully perceiving light.
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A flat patch of cells can be slightly improved by the curving of some of the outer cells creating a small depressed area, which allows some amount of sense of where the light is coming from.
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Said depression can depress further until there is only a small slit of light coming in. This allows a more complex "picture" to be seen, rather than the more binary "light yes/no" of the flat patch and the "light on this side yes/no" of the depressed patch.
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Said depression may be covered by a membrane that would magnify the light coming in, which has obvious benefits.
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Muscles to move the "half eye" around would allow greater field of vision and more accurate determination of the source of the light.
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Detecting basic colors is more useful than detecting no colors (e.g., "is that the toxic blue flower or the edible yellow flower?").
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The ability to control the size of the slit (even a little bit) and its magnifier is useful to refocus and get just a little better vision at certain distances.
And with that, the hypothetical eye would be reasonably similar to the eye possessed by most mammals today.
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