Fire-Thong Primitive Survival Fire
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- čas přidán 7. 11. 2014
- The fire-thong is primarily used by indigenous people in Southeast Asia. This is a demonstration of the construction and use of a Rattan Fire -Thong. (as a note: I sped-up the video during the time i was blowing the tinder into flame to save you time)
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After a few decades of being obsessed with collecting survival and primitive skills techniques, I am putting out these videos to demonstrate the skills and excursions found at my school, Wild Survival (wildsurvivalskills.com). Videos are focused on primitive skills, rewilding, nature awareness, living off the land, off grid living, indigenous skills, shelter building, primitive fire, water purification, trapping, hunting, bow making, flint knapping, primitive pottery, basketry, edible and medicinal plant preparation and numerous indigenous skills.
I began studying wilderness survival when I was 17 in order to have the ability to spend extensive periods of time in nature, seeking out empowerment and without the need for external sources. I began studying in 1993 under Tom Brown Jr eventually teaching for Tracker Inc. I sought-out every old Native American teacher I could and eventually traveled the world living in very remote indigenous villages in the Amazon, Papua New Guinea, Indonesia and Peru. My school teaches survival and primitive skills, nature awareness, how to live off the land, re-wilding, prepare for disasters. I strongly believe that experiencing survival living changes the way people approach their entire lives.
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Tom McElroy
3:37 Wow, never seen this method before of making fire. Well done 👍🏻
Wow. Really great. This method, I imagine, could be transferred over to different environments too. That's a lot of friction for the time / work.
You are probably the most useful and amazing person on CZcams. You're my favorite you tuber.
This is a great video! Actually this is a very versatile friction fire making method. Because other materials should be easily substituted for the rattan. For example you can use a piece of soft wood for the fire board. A strip of leather (your leather belt), a length of rope or wire to generate the fiction to create the coal. Same principle as using a strip of rattan to create friction.
I have made and seen many primitive fires but that was a new one for me great video
hi Tom... I too went to TB school.... Yes been a while.,I had the long hair. I am very proud of you... for going off on your own.I know you are highly skilled. Cant say much here.....I have bamboo... to work with the fire saw.... but I'm wondering if I was to try this with bamboo should it be green.... I'm in calif... anyways glad to see this video*...
I'm from the Philippines and rattan is quite easy find here! Maybe I will try this sometime.Thank you for this .. Now I know 6 methods for making fire primitive fires .I've been successful with pump drill and bow drill method .. Next time I'll try these other 4 left, the handrill, Fire Saw, Fire Plough and the Fire- thong method. Again thanks for sharing this with us ,I'm definitely gonna subscribed
Guess it didn't go well....
awesome man, you deserve more views ill share you to some bush crafting groups, i feel like you will really take off!
Cool, thanks Iceman42, it'll definitely inspire me to keep making more if more people were watching them.
I’ve never seen that before! That was so cool!
very educatde i love all about bushcraft survival primitive
Mate I am in awe.....
very nice; first time seeing this type
It just might be my sound system, but I can't get much volume while watching video. Thanks for all the great tips. I am learning new techniques on fishing, shelter building, and making cordage. Again, thanks.
Incredible coincidence !!! Afternoon I answer to your comment and evening I see you on TV - Naked and Afraid. Great respect for you and your TV partner!!! There must have been terribly cold !!! Good Luck Honza
Thanks again... where do you teach out of?
Tom Mcelroy-Survival Hi Tom, I apologize for my English. I do not understand exactly the question so I answer this way. I do not teach these skills anywhere and all my sklills, except for one-day Worksop flintknapping, I taught myself from YT videos, articles on Iternet, reading books and mainly practical training. Thank you for your clemency for my English which with it helps me Google Translator... :o) Honza
That was awesome
This method i would imagine can be used with other types of wood anywhere given where the bark strip is high in tensile strength and will not compromise under friction. Mulberry is somewhat a medium to hard wood, but the wood comes off strip/patchy like and i would imagine it's worth a try. I will try it.
Yeah, if you do, let me know. I've been saying that I want to try other things with that as well. For years I have said that. THinking maybe hickory bark strips? Stay in touch and lmk if you get any success
@@wildsurvivalskills Gotcha big dawg! I found a form of over dried wood that when charred will take a spark to quartz and steel. I do have chert, but i'm always trying to find a rock that's abundantly available like quartz in my area should i just happen to be looking for it.
You should go on survivor , I truly think you’d win a million bucks!
Very nicely filmed video !!! I Definitely look to other videos and visit your website. h
Thanks Honza, really like your stuff too. Ill have to check out more of your videos. --tom
Tom Mcelroy-Survival Thank you very much Tom. h
That thong th thong thong thong... nice one mate. Cheers for sharing
great way to start fire .
Closest thong to real magic.
Not the thong I search for though.....🤣
In the USA north east area, what could you use in place of the rattan material?
All I have to do now is find some rattan in northern Indiana. Oh, there is a Pier 1 nearby at the mall...
yes..
pretty cool if u live near any ratan. can u do this with any materials found in the southern US?
+DaveDaveydo I have only done it with Rattan and Bamboo, but I have heard you can use rope...I have my doubts but need to try it before saying. Thanks for watching!
This is a good idea for a video. Why don't you create a video using a piece of softwood for a fireboard, and a length of leather, rope or wire as substitute for the rattan to generate friction heat to produce a piece of hot coal to make fire. These materials are generally available anywhere in the world, not just in Southeast Asia. If you have the time to do so, that would be great. Thank you for your great videos.
You can totally do this with temperate woodland materials too. Check out "Friction Fire - Fire Thong" video on "Honza J" channel.
I take it, that would also work with other woods as the thong. 👍✌🥃
Is the strip of Rattan with the handles a one off ? Or can that strip be used to start 2 -3 or more coals started ? Say I have a Bug Out bag with some Rattan strips in it how many times is each strip gonna be able to help me obtain my fire ? Thanks great Video 8)
Hey Aaron,
I only get 2 fires best out of each strip. Luckily in the jungle when you find a little rattan you can find a ton of it. Lots of the tribal groups i hung out with in the jungle would rap a bunch of rattan around there bodies because it is so useful. Probably not the best just as a 'bug-out' device though. You can get away with using bamboo strips as well.
Thanks good info ! Just like the Technic for quick fire starting . It would be lite and easy to carry with, as say an emergency fire starting device. Backup for my backup LOL Thanks again
Are there any natural materials you can use in Eastern North America for this method?
what wood on heartwood he use?
It would be nice to see you take the 40 day Naked and Afraid challenge. I've watched many of your videos and you certainly have it down when it comes to primitive survival. Let me ask you this. If you were to go on such a challenge what survival item would you bring?
Would it work with cordage?
Wow. I have never seen this done. Have you ever tried the Eskimo ice fire?
yes, I have never even gotten smoke with it, you??
@@wildsurvivalskills No. I just made that up...:-) Anyway, I am a big fan.
Are you up for the 3 or 4 truly remarkable and elegant traps that I have come across on here? Should I pass them on to you? I think you would appreciate them.
Nice I like NEW things
Great, Keep going ! but can you make fire easiest and without any of materials like knife , 100% primitive ?
+Youssef Or Yeah man, check this one out..all natural.... czcams.com/video/REZJ0XV95fE/video.html
Ok, Thank you so much !
Can you wait till I run out to the jungle for my rattan
Have you tried this method with any North American woods?
I can't help wondering if my local cedar, if rived thin enough, would be pliable enough to perform this task.
downeast primitive skills If you pull it off let me know, that would be epic. Not sure why I would ever use a fire thing when lost in a cedar forest but still would be cool to see if its do-able.
downeast primitive skills If you pull it off let me know, that would be epic. Not sure why I would ever use a fire thong when lost in a cedar forest but still would be cool to see if its do-able.
I tried some very flexible root stock the other day, seemed fine when a little damp but after a day on the dash board of my truck it became very birttle. I am suspecting cedar may become brittle when dry, too. I will still explore to ease my curiosity.
hi
I can't do this... I can't get my hair-colour done every time I go out in the woods.
Primitive hair dye is the next video :)
I would love to hear your option on the 10 items for the alone show. What would you choose?
Notch the bottom stick so the soft wood doesn't slide to the sides as you work.
Just a thought.
You have some nice vids man! You should brush up on some knife safety though, since survival is all about reducing risk and even an infection can disable you. 2:23 made me nervous - better to whack the back of your machete with a stick, and always keep your body out of the path of your blade. Also at 1:42 it's a bad habit to leave a sharp edge of any kind lying around. I'd highly recommend books by Mors Kochanski or Ray Mears.
+Jay Dee Also, when you use the word "survival" people amplify every mistake, since in a survival situation every mistake is amplified. It may be better to use "outdoor/primitive/wilderness skills", although those skills can often be used in a survival situation, to remove all that unnecessary pressure&critiquing. The same goes for calling yourself an expert/teacher instead of a student. Sincerely, a loyal subscriber.
How the fuck does it stack up in the reservoir through the hole ?
insane method
Hi! Will other fibers work, if rattan is not available, where one is? Thanks.
Fire thong...that just doesn't sound good...
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Gay.