@@Chriselchingon23 To me the Charge 3 presents a more dynamic and exciting sound signature, I also use the Aux in from time to time. I have a pair of JBL Flip 4’s which pair with the Charge 3 and complement one another extremely well. IMO JBL is simply cost cutting by removing features such as Aux and designing mono solutions that have zero backwards compatibility (wireless pairing) with the last series. There’s only so much can be done with these smaller form factor BT speakers at a given price point, with the competition now catching up and to some extents exceeding JBL sonically. Ultimately if JBL don't offer the hardware with the features I want, then I have absolutely no reason to purchase their gear. I travel a lot as a factor of my profession and have gone through endless BT speakers to find the best solution and they all have their own positives and negatives. JBL Charge 4 & Flip 5 are too compromised for my liking and arguably present a less interesting sound signature, bumping up the bass a touch doesn't cover up the deficiencies...
@@Chriselchingon23 IMO JBL is simply cost cutting by removing features such as Aux and designing mono solutions that have zero backwards compatibility (wireless pairing) with the last series. There’s only so much can be done with these smaller form factor BT speakers at a given price point, with the competition now catching up and to some extents exceeding JBL. Ultimately if JBL don't offer the hardware with the features I want, then I have no reason to purchase their gear. I travel a lot as a factor of my profession and have gone through endless BT speakers to find the best solution and they all have their own positives and negatives. JBL Charge 4 & Flip 5 are too compromised for my liking and arguably present a less interesting sound signature, bumping up the bass a little doesn't cover up the deficiencies...
Great song choice for the intro Toni (Lana Del Rey "West Coast")...and later with other Lana's songs :) About that new Flip from JBL, I would say I really like the new packaging and the design, but the sound quality seems to be not that impressive. Typical "Flip" sound : too much treble and not really bassy. I don't think they improved that much compares the Flip 4. Just my opinion. If you can do it, try to compare this new Flip 5 with the new ultra portable "Vifa City". But I already know who will be the winner haha :) Thanks for your work Toni. You and Oluv are defnitely the best reviewers for bluetooth speakers.
Duduv-54 Cartomane thanks a lot! I definitely agree, maybe I’ll check out the Vifa City soon Yea, Lana Del Rey is a great artist and I love using her music for testing speakers as well
@@speakertoni2680 Yeah, she's awesome. Love her since his first album "Born To Die" ! great idea to use Lana's songs for testing speakers. Songs from "Born to Die" are muscially rich and it's a great way to test speakers. Most of the time, tracks from BTD just sounds pretty bad on Bose and JBL speakers. It's the cas here with the JBL speakers in the video. On Vifa or Minirigs, it sounds just fine ! I can't wait your review and comparisons about Vifa City. Oluv already did it on his channel but he didn't talked about battery life...Nice to see you back Toni ! see you in the next video :)
Duduv-54 Cartomane I started listening to born to die some time ago and then really got into all of the other work she does I really appreciate it Especially National Anthem sounds so bad on so many big system as it’s very busy yet clean So it’s very easy to make out mistakes and problems in any speaker with this track Although I can be quite busy at times I’ll try to keep uploading more frequently now:)
Top tip: You can link through the USB out on the Charge 4 to the USB-C in, because there are two separate batteries in the Charge 4. This is a tip I got from a JBL employee/salesman in my local shop.
Well I'm like you Toni I never put my speaker into a water. I listen to my bose soundlink micro in the shower but always put it on the shelf where it will not get wet, despite the fact it is completely waterproof. In fact the sound of any speaker gets distorted once it is fully wet so what is the point of submerging speaker in the water? Meybe they are good if you accidentaly drop it into a bath or pool and that is it. With flip 5 what I dont like is that exposed charging port, I still preffer flaps. It may be ok with water but when you take it to the beach and you will get a lot of sand in there it will be a nightmare to take it out. Or you may get a lot of dirt in there overtime.
I have been waiting for your word about it. But somehow i think every speaker needs break in time before it starts sounding like it's meant to be.. So maybe try the same after a year just for fun
Ich glaube nicht, dass die Verteilung von CS, GG (Plastik) und TL (Papier) länderabhängig ist. Ich glaube, es hat tatsächlich mit den Farben zu tun. Schwarz und Weiss sind CS, Rot und Grau sind TL, und Camouflage ist GG. Alle tönen etwas anders, wobei meines Erachtens die TL die beste, die GG die schlechteste Klangqualität besitzt. Ausserdem schwimmt nur die CS-Version, die anderen Modelle sinken im Wasser
Ich war letztens im Geschäft und habe mir die Seriennummern angeschaut. Es gab schwarze TL und schwarze GG, es kann also doch nicht Farbenabhängig sein.
@@kommentarschreiber2 Hmm, interessant... Vielleicht steckt ja auch gar kein System dahinter, und sie produzieren von allen dreien alles. Das mit dem Schwimmen sollte allerdings einheitlich korrekt sein, da dies ja von der Bauart abhängt, welche mit CS, TL und GG unterschieden wird (siehe Alan Ross Reviews aus CZcams)
Schwarz: TL, GG & CS, Rot: TL, Camouflage: GG, Weiß: CS und die weiteren Farben.... Blau GG, Türkis GG und auch TL und gelb ist auch TL und GG und grün CS und jetzt fallen mir keine Farben mehr ein... Oh doch rosa ist TL xD
Ja der Typ ist so korrekt. Ich verstehe nicht warum JBL verschiedene Komponenten für die Lautsprecher produziert. Aber zum Glück hab ich selbst herausgefunden das TL unnormal geil klingt
Ich habe alle Versionen von der Flip 5 gehabt und TL ist die beste Version von der Flip 5. GG ist auch okay aber die Verarbeitung ist ein bisschen schlecht und CS kann im Wasser schwimmen aber meine ist das einmal durch Wasserschaden kaputt gegangen und CS klingt so schlecht das ich die nicht mehr habe wollte. Ich kaufe mir nur noch TL und meine TL's haben immer im Wasser überlebt 😅
@comatr0n I still happen to own Charge 2+ and it's great. Bit bigger than the Flip 4 but still sounds better. Highs are bit harsh on that 14-45kHz range i think but it can be fixed with EQ
@@StaticVapour590 yes, charge 2+ sounds more impressive compared to flip 4 (I have both), Flip louder and more higher frequencies, charge 2+ has more mids and vocals are most opened and described - my choice is Charge 2+
I have charge 4 and pulse 3 and love to listen to them together. And I have extra lights efect :) I put ch4 in the corner of the room and its acting as a woofer with plenty of bass.
Finally a CZcams channel that goes more into depth on speakers!!!
Checkout Oluv's Gadgets's channel
Check alon Ross
I'll be keeping my Flip 4. Thanks for the nice review.
Same , I'll be keeping my pair of Flip 4's and Charge 3. Not remotely interested in JBL's mono path or lack of aux in.
@@64Gianfar how come? Genuinely interested
@@64Gianfar I actually had the charge 4 but sold it to someone on the fly. Waited a few months and I ended up getting the charge 3.
@@Chriselchingon23 To me the Charge 3 presents a more dynamic and exciting sound signature, I also use the Aux in from time to time. I have a pair of JBL Flip 4’s which pair with the Charge 3 and complement one another extremely well.
IMO JBL is simply cost cutting by removing features such as Aux and designing mono solutions that have zero backwards compatibility (wireless pairing) with the last series. There’s only so much can be done with these smaller form factor BT speakers at a given price point, with the competition now catching up and to some extents exceeding JBL sonically.
Ultimately if JBL don't offer the hardware with the features I want, then I have absolutely no reason to purchase their gear. I travel a lot as a factor of my profession and have gone through endless BT speakers to find the best solution and they all have their own positives and negatives. JBL Charge 4 & Flip 5 are too compromised for my liking and arguably present a less interesting sound signature, bumping up the bass a touch doesn't cover up the deficiencies...
@@Chriselchingon23 IMO JBL is simply cost cutting by removing features such as Aux and designing mono solutions that have zero backwards compatibility (wireless pairing) with the last series. There’s only so much can be done with these smaller form factor BT speakers at a given price point, with the competition now catching up and to some extents exceeding JBL.
Ultimately if JBL don't offer the hardware with the features I want, then I have no reason to purchase their gear. I travel a lot as a factor of my profession and have gone through endless BT speakers to find the best solution and they all have their own positives and negatives. JBL Charge 4 & Flip 5 are too compromised for my liking and arguably present a less interesting sound signature, bumping up the bass a little doesn't cover up the deficiencies...
Nice Video! Thanks for comparison!
And i never buy JBL again. I have the Boombox, my friend has a JBL Xtreme 2 and we have a Flip 4 and Charge 3 &4. Partyboost must be a joke...!
Great song choice for the intro Toni (Lana Del Rey "West Coast")...and later with other Lana's songs :)
About that new Flip from JBL, I would say I really like the new packaging and the design, but the sound quality seems to be not that impressive. Typical "Flip" sound : too much treble and not really bassy. I don't think they improved that much compares the Flip 4. Just my opinion.
If you can do it, try to compare this new Flip 5 with the new ultra portable "Vifa City". But I already know who will be the winner haha :)
Thanks for your work Toni. You and Oluv are defnitely the best reviewers for bluetooth speakers.
Duduv-54 Cartomane thanks a lot!
I definitely agree, maybe I’ll check out the Vifa City soon
Yea, Lana Del Rey is a great artist and I love using her music for testing speakers as well
@@speakertoni2680 Yeah, she's awesome. Love her since his first album "Born To Die" ! great idea to use Lana's songs for testing speakers. Songs from "Born to Die" are muscially rich and it's a great way to test speakers. Most of the time, tracks from BTD just sounds pretty bad on Bose and JBL speakers. It's the cas here with the JBL speakers in the video. On Vifa or Minirigs, it sounds just fine !
I can't wait your review and comparisons about Vifa City. Oluv already did it on his channel but he didn't talked about battery life...Nice to see you back Toni ! see you in the next video :)
Duduv-54 Cartomane I started listening to born to die some time ago and then really got into all of the other work she does
I really appreciate it
Especially National Anthem sounds so bad on so many big system as it’s very busy yet clean
So it’s very easy to make out mistakes and problems in any speaker with this track
Although I can be quite busy at times I’ll try to keep uploading more frequently now:)
Duduv-54 Cartomane I’ll see where to get the Vifa
Vifa themselves certainly won’t send me one hehe
Top tip: You can link through the USB out on the Charge 4 to the USB-C in, because there are two separate batteries in the Charge 4. This is a tip I got from a JBL employee/salesman in my local shop.
Just when you thought the Flip 5 couldn't get any worse, Toni adresses the paper cone vs. plastic cone issue....
Hi! Wich version of flip 5 did You test? TL, GG or CS? (Check strip code)
Kannst du bitte nächstes Mal über SONOS 5.1 Systeme mache ???
Nice unboxing.
Well I'm like you Toni I never put my speaker into a water. I listen to my bose soundlink micro in the shower but always put it on the shelf where it will not get wet, despite the fact it is completely waterproof. In fact the sound of any speaker gets distorted once it is fully wet so what is the point of submerging speaker in the water? Meybe they are good if you accidentaly drop it into a bath or pool and that is it. With flip 5 what I dont like is that exposed charging port, I still preffer flaps. It may be ok with water but when you take it to the beach and you will get a lot of sand in there it will be a nightmare to take it out. Or you may get a lot of dirt in there overtime.
I have been waiting for your word about it. But somehow i think every speaker needs break in time before it starts sounding like it's meant to be.. So maybe try the same after a year just for fun
Static Vapour one year of break in is a bit too much I’d say haha
But even after a few days of use nothing really changed
@@speakertoni2680 Whoopsie, my bad.. I meant to type "after a month".
You can't connect older speakers with the new. I'm done with JBL. Lots of other speakers for less money.
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Flip 5 has party connect which will be able to connect to pulse 4 and maybe charge 3 with update they just want you to buy new speakers
they wont update the charge 3 that would be dum if there is a charge 4
Sir this speaker will have speakerphine
I dont get why JBL would leave out AUX and go with a mono speaker. And now I cant connect. I think I will pass on this.
cutting price for more profit
Ich glaube nicht, dass die Verteilung von CS, GG (Plastik) und TL (Papier) länderabhängig ist. Ich glaube, es hat tatsächlich mit den Farben zu tun. Schwarz und Weiss sind CS, Rot und Grau sind TL, und Camouflage ist GG. Alle tönen etwas anders, wobei meines Erachtens die TL die beste, die GG die schlechteste Klangqualität besitzt. Ausserdem schwimmt nur die CS-Version, die anderen Modelle sinken im Wasser
Ich war letztens im Geschäft und habe mir die Seriennummern angeschaut. Es gab schwarze TL und schwarze GG, es kann also doch nicht Farbenabhängig sein.
@@kommentarschreiber2 Hmm, interessant... Vielleicht steckt ja auch gar kein System dahinter, und sie produzieren von allen dreien alles. Das mit dem Schwimmen sollte allerdings einheitlich korrekt sein, da dies ja von der Bauart abhängt, welche mit CS, TL und GG unterschieden wird (siehe Alan Ross Reviews aus CZcams)
Schwarz: TL, GG & CS, Rot: TL, Camouflage: GG, Weiß: CS und die weiteren Farben.... Blau GG, Türkis GG und auch TL und gelb ist auch TL und GG und grün CS und jetzt fallen mir keine Farben mehr ein... Oh doch rosa ist TL xD
@@kommentarschreiber2 naja ich schreibe es spät aber ich hab September letztes Jahr eine Weiße Flip 5 TL bekommen
Es gibt noch verschiedene versionen TL, GG, CS AlanRossReview hat die alle verglichen und die sind nicht gleich vllt solltest du dir das mal anschauen
Ja der Typ ist so korrekt. Ich verstehe nicht warum JBL verschiedene Komponenten für die Lautsprecher produziert. Aber zum Glück hab ich selbst herausgefunden das TL unnormal geil klingt
Bro dont worry the sound is of the buttons, mi flip4 did it too but it is only the part of inside that is seal son dont worry, sorry for my english :)
I mean this speaker will have speakerphone soon and sooner
Red is TL or GG?
It's different. The White Flip 5 was CS, but I get a white Flip 5 TL
Ich habe alle Versionen von der Flip 5 gehabt und TL ist die beste Version von der Flip 5. GG ist auch okay aber die Verarbeitung ist ein bisschen schlecht und CS kann im Wasser schwimmen aber meine ist das einmal durch Wasserschaden kaputt gegangen und CS klingt so schlecht das ich die nicht mehr habe wollte. Ich kaufe mir nur noch TL und meine TL's haben immer im Wasser überlebt 😅
How to know the different on flip 5 tl /cs or gg versiom
- > flip 3 still the best, so neutral (just missing real bass)
@comatr0n I still happen to own Charge 2+ and it's great. Bit bigger than the Flip 4 but still sounds better. Highs are bit harsh on that 14-45kHz range i think but it can be fixed with EQ
@comatr0n id say xtreme 2 or even boombox cause they sound quit ok just not that loud or bassy for their name
@@StaticVapour590 yes, charge 2+ sounds more impressive compared to flip 4 (I have both), Flip louder and more higher frequencies, charge 2+ has more mids and vocals are most opened and described - my choice is Charge 2+
I put moisture absorbing packets in my JBL extreme extreme 2 charge 3 and flip 4
I put moisture absorbing packets in my underpants and put new ones in every two days. They work pretty good.
I have GG
flip 4 was brand new
Dude get a second charge 4 its worth it
Gadgeto Gudamu you do love bass bro.
@@migks37 dude they sound spectacular together, I'd take 2 charge 4s over 1 Xtreme2
No it's not
@@afistfulofpimples1745 if u say so😕
I have charge 4 and pulse 3 and love to listen to them together. And I have extra lights efect :) I put ch4 in the corner of the room and its acting as a woofer with plenty of bass.
Whaaaat west coast ahshshsbd im in love with lana del rey 😂
Ömer Mamaş yea she’s great