China Has 10 Years Left, Says Geopolitical Analyst Peter Zaihan

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  • čas přidán 28. 03. 2024
  • Taken from JRE #1921 w/Peter Zaihan:
    open.spotify.com/episode/406f...

Komentáře • 36K

  • @trepan4944
    @trepan4944 Před rokem +13383

    The only thing I know for certain is that Joe should have this guy back on in a decade and play back this entire interview and see how it compares to what actually happened with China.

    • @therearenoshortcuts9868
      @therearenoshortcuts9868 Před rokem +514

      his grift is done by that point
      no longer doing interviews LOL

    • @wilhelmhesse1348
      @wilhelmhesse1348 Před rokem +48

      @@TheVoiceofTheProphetElizer 💯🤣so true

    • @Aww-Geez
      @Aww-Geez Před rokem +160

      He should have a lot of guests back, that have their theories, and see if any of them were right.

    • @levelazn
      @levelazn Před rokem

      this guy never been to china, doesn't speak chinese, and has never talked to a actual chinese peer who lives in china to verify his "research". This guy is a typical western hack who pretends to understand china

    • @paddyFND
      @paddyFND Před rokem +210

      @@therearenoshortcuts9868 glad it just isn't me that thinks this guy has major flaws in his thinking here.

  • @taylorlevesque9405
    @taylorlevesque9405 Před rokem +35131

    He's either the greatest bullshitter to ever live, or is truly confident in his information

    • @Robb1n11
      @Robb1n11 Před rokem +2147

      Yeah, one or the other at an extreme level.

    • @TooManyAdrians
      @TooManyAdrians Před rokem

      He's the greatest bullshitter to ever live

    • @JDGuitar82
      @JDGuitar82 Před rokem +4659

      Yeah I take everything I hear on JRE with a massive grain of salt.

    • @Rtiomas
      @Rtiomas Před rokem

      Bullshitter

    • @TheNerdForAllSeasons
      @TheNerdForAllSeasons Před rokem +3718

      He was right about Ukraine to the week. Predicted something like 4 or 5 years ago.

  • @larsmichael6242
    @larsmichael6242 Před 10 měsíci +641

    I'm sure this guy know alot and has some good points, but expresses everything with 100% certainty. I've never met a competent person that does that

    • @quitanero
      @quitanero Před 10 měsíci

      He is a charlatan. I can spot one from miles. I'm italian.

    • @CAROLN79
      @CAROLN79 Před 9 měsíci +63

      That’s what happens when someone is in so much love with their own idea, they lose touch with reality 😅

    • @DannyWeil
      @DannyWeil Před 8 měsíci +14

      He provides no evidence for any of his claims.

    • @michaeldobson107
      @michaeldobson107 Před 8 měsíci +28

      @@DannyWeil He predicted Ukraine and Brexit back in his 2016 book, right to the year it happened.

    • @1x0x
      @1x0x Před 8 měsíci +10

      yup the more i learn, the less i know.. anyone that is certain of ANYTHING is immediately a red flag to me

  • @albertrodriguez1923
    @albertrodriguez1923 Před 10 měsíci +657

    Analyst, one of the only jobs that doesn't get you in trouble when you're wrong.

    • @elg7365
      @elg7365 Před 9 měsíci +34

      Exactly. He saying things without support or facts

    • @jacobfink8432
      @jacobfink8432 Před 9 měsíci +19

      And meteorologists

    • @SeekingPleroma
      @SeekingPleroma Před 9 měsíci

      I agree. He said a couple of things I just happen to know are not correct, so it puts what he is saying in doubt in my mind.
      China has its serious social and economic issues for sure, but Europe is a total mess, and the US has a corrupt administration that will not allow anything but the approved narrative to be given as intel to the president. A former CIA agent, Larry Johnson, stated in an interview that for a while now, anyone who gives an honest report that does not fit the wanted narrative will just be removed or never get advanced, so everyone tells the administration what it wants to hear.

    • @thepkeezy
      @thepkeezy Před 9 měsíci +5

      First 4 letters is trouble enough.
      Hey oooo, zinnnng.

    • @DannyWeil
      @DannyWeil Před 8 měsíci

      And this guy just makes assumptions. He has no evidence for any of his claims be it China or the US.
      This guy is a capitalist.
      and he is on the wrong side of history.
      Saying Xi murders people and not coming up with any evidence is absurd.
      What a waste.
      Good reason to stay away from America.

  • @nealb8752
    @nealb8752 Před rokem +10318

    Joe should have him on again in 10 years and see how this plays out.

    • @firefly9838
      @firefly9838 Před rokem

      Joe dies in April of 2028 unfortunately.

    • @4bidden1
      @4bidden1 Před rokem +182

      He’ll be laughing all the way to the bank in 10 years

    • @eXpressYourselfClips
      @eXpressYourselfClips Před rokem +584

      He'll say "Give it another 10 years or so'.

    • @supertuesday600
      @supertuesday600 Před rokem

      I'm a Chinese, I know China is dying under Emperor Xi. He has been blinded by his enablers and CCP has made all the wrong moves ever since Hu Jintao's era. China will be half dead in 3 years time.

    • @markgarcia8253
      @markgarcia8253 Před rokem +327

      His 2014 book predicted until 2022 when the boomer mass retirement hits. And his 2022 book predicts the next 8 years. He hasn’t been wrong except how strong Russia was (which the whole world was wrong about)

  • @russcastella
    @russcastella Před rokem +1938

    I just hope I survive another 10 years to come back to this video

    • @Vaser1013
      @Vaser1013 Před rokem +60

      Dude SERIOUSLY this dude is rocking a man bun spouting the future. How tf can anyone believe this shit his predictions are based on sooooo many specific smaller predictions like you’d need a year to actually lay out his timeline of shit that’s “supposed” to happen

    • @powershift2024
      @powershift2024 Před rokem

      How bad could it get? I mean, global recession, 30th variant of Covid, War in Ukraine, possible invasion of Taiwan, interest rates/inflation, massive global debt, climate change, artificial intelligence, civil war, the plague, vaxxed up kids, 3D printed guns and fentanyl in your McDonald's. I think we're looking pretty, pretty good. Of course I'm an optimist though.

    • @torginus
      @torginus Před rokem +75

      That'd mean you'd make it to the premier of his new book - "China only has 10 more years left, this time for real, trust me bro"

    • @robertennew
      @robertennew Před rokem

      🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 you're not the online 👍🏻🤣🤣🤣

    • @man8god
      @man8god Před rokem +7

      Remind me 10 years

  • @Xehemoth
    @Xehemoth Před 10 měsíci +515

    Joes ability to ask the right questions at the right time is unmatched.

    • @lawless7166
      @lawless7166 Před 10 měsíci +17

      Active listener

    • @Jascle03
      @Jascle03 Před 9 měsíci +10

      I wish Joe had asked what the guy meant by "remake the human condition" and "overhaul what being human means"

    • @JCPoetryCourner
      @JCPoetryCourner Před 9 měsíci +15

      Respectfully disagree. Heavily dependant on the guest imo.

    • @rogerwelsh2335
      @rogerwelsh2335 Před 9 měsíci

      Lex is amazing at questions too

    • @Nopanop
      @Nopanop Před 9 měsíci +2

      Its not that hard , especially when the other person be talking gibberish

  • @Doom0690
    @Doom0690 Před 10 měsíci +202

    As someone who will most definitely end up depending on social security and my own savings to survive, the statements he made about not having enough workers to pay into the social security system is very frightening.
    I do not want to end up depending on my children to take care of me and support me.
    I worked from the age of 14 up until 4 years ago where I was in a terrible accident and I am no longer able to work.
    It eats me up inside because I don't like the fact that my fellow Americans now provide for me and I wanted more for myself and my family.
    Im not the smartest man either and I don't understand geopolitics and economic structures, but I understand that our future isn't going to be as bright as we all thought it would be.
    Corrupt Politicians filling their own pockets, Social Media destroying our youth and mainstreaming dancing moms and Onlyfans as the way to be, and on and on.
    I still have hope...but only a small amount.

    • @Dead_Empire
      @Dead_Empire Před 9 měsíci +23

      You might be down but your not out.
      If you have a computer then you have an infinite way to make money. People all over the world work from behind a desk. You can do it from home. And if you can't then learn.

    • @bigpapi6688
      @bigpapi6688 Před 9 měsíci +3

      @@Dead_Empireabsolutely. And the gig economy. I haven’t had an official job with an official boss in a year, yet I’m paying to go to school, renting my own house, and still living comfortably doing work I actually wnjoy

    • @ryananderson5202
      @ryananderson5202 Před 9 měsíci

      You boomers should have passed down more of your wealth to your next generation.
      boomers caused this.

    • @Scorch428
      @Scorch428 Před 9 měsíci

      oh, theyve known the social security system is fucked....anyone under 50 isnt gonna get shit back

    • @Scorch428
      @Scorch428 Před 9 měsíci +1

      better buy bitcoin, dude...

  • @MrJJacks7
    @MrJJacks7 Před rokem +5518

    It's wild how bad people are at predictions a decade away. I remember when geopolitical experts were saying China is going to become a liberal democracy when we started trading with them and they couldn't have been more wrong

    • @tylergannon7398
      @tylergannon7398 Před rokem

      I mean, China still could be a liberal Democracy. China has a lot of incentive to become one. It just depends on how long the Communist are planning to put their control and power over the well being of their people.

    • @jimmytimmy3680
      @jimmytimmy3680 Před rokem

      There's more freedom in China than in the US.

    • @drewskij2175
      @drewskij2175 Před rokem

      So now maybe theft should understand the skepticism towards global warming. Fifty years of predictions and none have been correct...

    • @Tyed10
      @Tyed10 Před rokem +71

      I mean its not really wild though . A lot changes in 10 years😂

    • @CalmNoises
      @CalmNoises Před rokem +15

      @@truthabovethetruth2167 why not just link to the fucking forum?

  • @mdleweight
    @mdleweight Před rokem +5172

    He's right about the bad signs. But these systems are so complex it is not easy to project two years out, let alone ten.

    • @FamiliarAnomaly
      @FamiliarAnomaly Před rokem

      Zeihan said 6 months ago that Russia would be in Poland and Moldova by now. He's a state department/CIA shill which seem to all get spots on JRE btw...

    • @dimitrijejovanovich6488
      @dimitrijejovanovich6488 Před rokem +227

      Regardless though I think his overall prognosis is correct, even if the time scaling is off.

    • @laststand6420
      @laststand6420 Před rokem +148

      I love his information, he is extremely well read. However his predictions don't seem to take human reaction into account.

    • @kyleyoung7980
      @kyleyoung7980 Před rokem +41

      Well, the story sells something he's trying to sell in the long run. I.e work, book, website/social media. Just say something extreme and watch the money pile

    • @dimitrijejovanovich6488
      @dimitrijejovanovich6488 Před rokem +51

      @@laststand6420 agreed. To give him credit, though, I think that the human element of these situations is often over stressed. People are more reactive than proactive.

  • @eeeee49976
    @eeeee49976 Před 7 měsíci +26

    as a Chinese who on the half way of "running' away from there . the situation is more serious than he described

    • @user-vl6zk6dp3g
      @user-vl6zk6dp3g Před 6 měsíci +6

      How bad is it ?

    • @eeeee49976
      @eeeee49976 Před 6 měsíci +1

      extremely bad . unemployment rate , property bubble, banks no income due to huge debts default, everyone wants to be an officer instead of individual entrepreneurs @user-vl6zk6dp3g

    • @stuartkerr5872
      @stuartkerr5872 Před měsícem +4

      Just stay where you are

    • @eeeee49976
      @eeeee49976 Před měsícem

      why? @@stuartkerr5872

    • @lollymanna
      @lollymanna Před 24 dny +1

      fake chinese

  • @fateriddle14
    @fateriddle14 Před 10 měsíci +104

    It's usually people here in China has a more pessimistic(and arguably more realistic) view of ourselves than those outside voices which constantly boasting China taking the world by storm the next decade. So it's refreshing to hear someone sounded even more pessimistic than us. The truth is always in the middle, we're not gonna disappear in the next 10 years or rule the world by then.

    • @denisemilfort4581
      @denisemilfort4581 Před 9 měsíci

      People in China have CZcams? I read in credible newspapers that you guys can't have Facebook or CZcams or anything not controlled by the CCP how are you on CZcams? Are you really in China?

    • @tommyscott9085
      @tommyscott9085 Před 9 měsíci +3

      China is still growing though.

    • @niweshlekhak9646
      @niweshlekhak9646 Před 9 měsíci

      @@tommyscott9085 no it's not, one Chinese official said that figures like GDP are made up and got fired soon after that, Premier Li.

    • @javiersp
      @javiersp Před 9 měsíci +9

      @@tommyscott9085ccording to their own data and it has been proven is manipulated to the extreme.

    • @OneAdam12Adam
      @OneAdam12Adam Před 8 měsíci +3

      Thank you for your candor. Our leaders aren't so great either. They want to divide and conquer us.

  • @andreamazzeo4306
    @andreamazzeo4306 Před rokem +4037

    This guy is good at talking, but I'm always skeptical of people talking with certainty about incredibly complex topics.

    • @Canadiancromagnon
      @Canadiancromagnon Před rokem +33

      He does talk doesn’t he lol?

    • @jessefay4984
      @jessefay4984 Před rokem +179

      He thinks he's got it all figured out.

    • @TheEVEInspiration
      @TheEVEInspiration Před rokem +145

      @@jessefay4984 That is usually a good sign someone missed something critical.

    • @Duality0-
      @Duality0- Před rokem +73

      @@jessefay4984 not hard if you actually do research and see the current state of china

    • @FamiliarAnomaly
      @FamiliarAnomaly Před rokem

      he's a state department/cia shill

  • @elitisthavoc3949
    @elitisthavoc3949 Před rokem +809

    Is it just me or does anyone else not trust a damn thing anyone says about anything anymore…?

    • @paulc8588
      @paulc8588 Před rokem +19

      Peter has been right about way too many things

    • @ProudCommie
      @ProudCommie Před rokem +7

      @Chain NVSTR well that’s a you problem.

    • @triplebeans4159
      @triplebeans4159 Před rokem +54

      Everyone has an agenda these days and that makes it difficult to separate the truth from the lies.

    • @c_dubbzz6127
      @c_dubbzz6127 Před rokem +11

      I think that was the overall objective of all this crazy shit going on these last few years.

    • @alanjimenezchirinos1396
      @alanjimenezchirinos1396 Před rokem +11

      no, I just do not trust what he is saying

  • @ArtypNk
    @ArtypNk Před 6 měsíci +7

    The man visualises a possible path the future might take and runs hard with it. Obviously, this is one possibility. One out of many. But I like the way he dives into it and runs through it.

  • @Will-jw5oc
    @Will-jw5oc Před 10 měsíci +21

    How can a geopolitical analyst say an entire country will just 'go away'? The situation he is describing in China is the same exact situation in every developed country.

    • @degraw52
      @degraw52 Před 9 měsíci

      He speaks in a way that makes it sound a bit dramatic, but I don't think that's quite what he is saying. The economical/agricultural collapse would look similiar to the way Cuba or possibly venezuela looks at the moment. I checked most of his claims and they seem to check out. It's a bit unsettling.

    • @ibroughtreceipts
      @ibroughtreceipts Před 9 měsíci +1

      Exactly. I couldn’t even make out what he meant by done. Seems like he’s specifically referring to their economy having a downturn. It will still be viable as long as people work. There’s just a ton of hyperbole in here that is off putting.

  • @Berdymadafakas
    @Berdymadafakas Před rokem +2053

    It's always weird to me when someone's super confident about the future

    • @raveporn
      @raveporn Před rokem +99

      That is because you are not a student of history.

    • @SpiritualSchmuck
      @SpiritualSchmuck Před rokem +41

      He's not wrong and other people are sounding the alarm about this.

    • @kev3d
      @kev3d Před rokem +56

      “Prediction is very difficult, especially about the future.”
      ― Niels Bohr

    • @shredseeker8420
      @shredseeker8420 Před rokem +67

      ​@@raveporn LOL, you can only learn from history, not predict the future, as good as that may sound in movies and books.

    • @ghagzor
      @ghagzor Před rokem +10

      Remember what happened when Hitler took the guns

  • @tayldahl1
    @tayldahl1 Před rokem +2015

    He’s probably the most humble guy he knows.

    • @BigCC16
      @BigCC16 Před rokem +39

      🤣🤣🤣

    • @skeezix8156
      @skeezix8156 Před rokem +128

      Never saw a mirror he didn’t like

    • @Vaser1013
      @Vaser1013 Před rokem +53

      Seriously he starts answering questions immediately and says answers with condescending tones peppered through out. Can’t wait fir his career to be over when his theories prove wrong

    • @dannytadashi4235
      @dannytadashi4235 Před rokem

      @@Vaser1013 it will prove wrong . Peter Zeihan is another typical stupid arrogant racist white folks that just love to talk craps 💩 about China with Nasty anti China rhetoric HAHAHAHA LOL 😂😂😂😂👍👍👍🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇻🇳🇻🇳🇻🇳🇻🇳🇻🇳🇻🇳🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺!!!

    • @oliverschlesinger6744
      @oliverschlesinger6744 Před rokem +9

      💯😂

  • @robbholmes9215
    @robbholmes9215 Před 10 měsíci +5

    And the BSer of the year award goes too🏆

  • @DermalDeviations
    @DermalDeviations Před rokem +1018

    If the last 3 years taught me anything, it's that these "expert analysts" do a heck of a lot guessing..

    • @andrewdishman26
      @andrewdishman26 Před rokem +30

      Yes and also with extreme confidence that they are telling facts and not just guessing.

    • @anypercentdeathless
      @anypercentdeathless Před rokem +5

      That's not an argument.

    • @LOLLOL-kg4dz
      @LOLLOL-kg4dz Před rokem

      u just follow hype anti china in last 3 year but u know nothing LOL ,all china problem today is really nothing compared to their problem 20-30 year ago when they still poor ,like protest in tianamen ,falun gong protest ,terorist attack xinjiang,tibet protest, thats even worst and more chaotic just search all video but china success through it and solve all their problem ,so what make u think today china will collapse soon ? use ur brain a bit 🤣🤣🤣🤣
      here western propaganda failed prediction about china since 30 year ago
      1990 The Economist : china's economy has come to a halt
      1996 The Economist : China's economy will face a hard landing
      1998 The Economist : China's economy entering a dangerous period of sluggish growth
      1999 Bank of Canan : likelihood of a hard landing for the chinese economy
      2000 Chicago Tribune China currency move nails hard landing risk coffin
      2001 Wilbanks,Smith & Thomas : A hard landing in China
      2001 gordon chang and his comedy book "The Coming Collapse of China"
      2002 Westchester University : China anxiously seeks a soft economic landing
      2003 New York Times : Banking crisis imperils China
      2004 The Economist : The grea fall of China?
      2005 Nouriel Roubini : The Risk of a Hard Landing in China
      2006 International Economy : Can China Achieve a Soft Landing?
      2007 TIME : Is China's Economy Overheating? Can China avoid a Hard landing?
      2008 Forbes : Hard Landing in china?
      2009 Fortune : China's Hard landing China must find a way to recover
      2010 Nouriel Roubini : Hard landing coming in China
      2011 Business Insider : A Chinese Hard landing May be clcoser than you think
      2012 American Interest : Dismal economic news from china : a hard landing
      2013 Zero Hedge : A Hard landing in China
      2014 CNBC : A hard landing in China
      2015 Forbes : Congratulations ,you got yourself a chinese hard landing
      2016 The Economist : Hard landing looms for China
      2017 National Interest : Is China's Economy going to crash ?
      source : quora/Godfree-roberts

    • @keithd2284
      @keithd2284 Před rokem +4

      @@anypercentdeathless True. It's an observation.

    • @theWazimu
      @theWazimu Před rokem

      ok

  • @HAF1O2
    @HAF1O2 Před rokem +649

    Joe stressing like he's the one who gotta fix all 😂

  • @eggmcmarty
    @eggmcmarty Před 8 měsíci +24

    Peter Zaihan has been saying this for years now. Predicting China's failure sells his books.

    • @wahyu.muliady
      @wahyu.muliady Před 2 měsíci

      Yet, it's the polar opposite of him saying anything... 🤣🤣 Zaihan is a joke, is a clown. He ain't know anything about Geopolitics, he's just a cock-enlargement snake oil salesman tbh.

  • @brookerangel-legris
    @brookerangel-legris Před měsícem

    Wow! 😮 this was very informative.

  • @BigHugeYES
    @BigHugeYES Před rokem +769

    It's hard to trust someone who speaks with impossible certainty.

    • @karimshebeika8010
      @karimshebeika8010 Před rokem +38

      I think there is a certain kind of people who actually love it and fall for it

    • @ivanjulian2532
      @ivanjulian2532 Před rokem +12

      Look, I get that. But image if you were him, trying to make a living in his chosen landscape? Can we at least agree that he would surely fail if he spoke with complete indecisiveness?

    • @reklezzz9038
      @reklezzz9038 Před rokem +8

      @@karimshebeika8010FACTS, this is how people are like a cult for Andrew tate😂 it’s just manipulation folks

    • @Demoniaco
      @Demoniaco Před rokem +22

      I know people like this in real life. They're difficult to interact with and very arrogant.
      Absolutely can't trust this Peter Z guy at all.

    • @mplovecraft
      @mplovecraft Před rokem +10

      He's wrong in some things. For example that Xi wasn't informed about the invasion of Ukraine. He was.
      The things that Zaihan are saying are mostly daydreams. I can sympathize in his hopes, but it's not helping anyone spreading misinformation.

  • @lapchurng
    @lapchurng Před rokem +527

    I want him to come back on Joe Rogan 10years later

    • @b00ts4ndc4ts
      @b00ts4ndc4ts Před rokem +16

      I bet that what he says doesn't come true, it's wishful thinking IMO

    • @sleepyjoe4529
      @sleepyjoe4529 Před rokem

      he'll probably be dead

    • @theboringchannel2027
      @theboringchannel2027 Před rokem +26

      he said the same stuff in 2010,
      will probably be repeating it in 2030 as well.

    • @crusherven
      @crusherven Před rokem +7

      @@theboringchannel2027 I'd be interested to see that if you have a source. People have been predicting the demographic, political, or economic collapse of China for a long time. I wonder if they're just flat misreading the situation, or if China is making policy adjustments.

    • @zairman
      @zairman Před rokem +1

      @@theboringchannel2027 Proof?

  • @yobeenocreative6984
    @yobeenocreative6984 Před 2 měsíci +5

    Almost 5000 years of existence and they're all gone in 10 years? Not sure about this one.

  • @steelmusic2
    @steelmusic2 Před 9 měsíci

    Fascinating back and forth

  • @WastedWastelander
    @WastedWastelander Před rokem +565

    Cherish those who seek truth, but beware of those who found it.

  • @Silentj04
    @Silentj04 Před rokem +594

    This man can reassure me and frighten me in the same sentence

    • @mustangx
      @mustangx Před rokem +13

      Don’t be so gullible

    • @bruceleroy61
      @bruceleroy61 Před rokem +3

      @@mustangx You know nothing boomer

    • @sethdemers1530
      @sethdemers1530 Před rokem

      Then you are a fool cause half of what he’s spewing out is pure propaganda

    • @bruceleroy61
      @bruceleroy61 Před rokem +2

      @@sethdemers1530 Says who? Or is it your gut feeling?

    • @bruceleroy61
      @bruceleroy61 Před rokem +1

      @@sethdemers1530 Why is your profile empty Seth? I probably don't have the language pack to type your real name

  • @RHM2345
    @RHM2345 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Yahoo just picked this up 7 months later. Well done Pete.

  • @LithaMoonSong
    @LithaMoonSong Před 10 měsíci +24

    Three months later and the amount of tech companies pulling out of China is huge.

    • @Yu-hx5jo
      @Yu-hx5jo Před 10 měsíci +5

      "tech" companies lol doesnt really matter much . The chinese already has some home grown popular tech companies. Well nearly every country has to a certain extent

    • @ritwikrahuljena2815
      @ritwikrahuljena2815 Před 10 měsíci +1

      ​@@Yu-hx5jo what tech companies like Tencent, Bytedance bruh it is nothing compared to like big tech companies in the West like Apple, Google, Microsoft, ETC

    • @Yu-hx5jo
      @Yu-hx5jo Před 10 měsíci +2

      @@ritwikrahuljena2815 China ain't collapsing due to 'lack' of Western tech companies lmao It's a giant manufacturing powerhouse with a very skilled labour force.
      Apple co. Needs china more than China currently needs Apple
      As I said being totally dependent on a service based economy is never good, because the global competition is very tight . China never suffered from "tech" companies being blacked out like Russia (again didn't stop Russian economy from growing )

    • @PolfPolf
      @PolfPolf Před 10 měsíci

      ⁠@@Yu-hx5jogot to 3:57 and listen to what he says. Chinas industrial base is massive but completely reliant on foreign companies.

    • @Yu-hx5jo
      @Yu-hx5jo Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@PolfPolf That's not a source neither an academically verified fact.
      If China is soooo reliant on foreign companies and west hates China then ask foreign companies to simply leave China then ? But no China has the skilled labour and the machinery. China already manufactures many things independently.
      Trades are not unilaterally done, The West especially USA takes HUGE profit out of China.

  • @sweetdangerzack
    @sweetdangerzack Před rokem +3077

    This guy simultaneously strikes as someone full of fascinating information, and someone you really shouldn't trust.

    • @richardv9648
      @richardv9648 Před rokem +1

      Chinese have survived for more than 5000 years, They are not going away. This guy is delutional washington hack thinktank and his analysis based on journal papers.. You know Joe, there are door knobs in Beijing's Tiananmen square that are two times older than the whole Country of United States. So are the Italians, Japanese, Indians, Chinese, French or the Russians. All of them have a civilisation and a National identity that goes beyond last 500 years.. And You know what could go away? A nation with no racial or historical identidy such as United States. It might actually just disapear 100 years from now.

    • @richardmackenzie1878
      @richardmackenzie1878 Před rokem +97

      yeah a classic traveling bard

    • @NextExiter
      @NextExiter Před rokem

      I'm glad people are able to read between the lines on Zeihan. I read his book and loved it, learned so much. But he ends up drawing all the wrong the conclusions. He's a real globalist, imperialist shill, with serious blinders regarding our position in history. His work is great, but he really should be ignored outside his technical expertise.

    • @yellowledbutter
      @yellowledbutter Před rokem +167

      Do some research on his background, the team of researchers he has working for him, his books, not to mention the governments and corporations that pay him for his analysis. You might get a slightly more rounded view than from one short podcast clip…

    • @Nimyra
      @Nimyra Před rokem

      Pro vaccine sounds like it- He believes in vaccine immunity tells me He is a bullshitter

  • @abrahamfehr6728
    @abrahamfehr6728 Před rokem +453

    Fascinating conversation, but I’m sceptical of anyone who is so sure of their own ideas

    • @timchildress2048
      @timchildress2048 Před rokem +12

      Right. He sounds like a remarkably human robot.

    • @njp4340
      @njp4340 Před rokem +18

      My thoughts exactly. Anyone that confident is usually being honest with you but lying to themselves.

    • @tchaffman
      @tchaffman Před rokem +14

      So am I, but if you read his book, he goes remarkably in-depth on his sources and it's legit

    • @clapforboobies5892
      @clapforboobies5892 Před rokem +17

      Never trust a dude with a ponytail

    • @mrbobsevil
      @mrbobsevil Před rokem +5

      @@njp4340 Did you hear that somewhere or did you just make it up? Be honest because that is a great quote lol

  • @austinmorse4337
    @austinmorse4337 Před 10 měsíci +3

    For years I have wondered why the us hasn't transfered some of its production manufacturing to Mexico, India, or even Vietnam and leave China out of it.

    • @xxxlik8805
      @xxxlik8805 Před 4 měsíci

      It is in the process but it will be done gradually. I heard some companies exclusively manufacture products in Vietnam and Bangladesh

  • @Dflootie
    @Dflootie Před 11 měsíci +31

    Can’t believe people still take this guy seriously

    • @vanfja
      @vanfja Před 11 měsíci +4

      Well the establishment produce these types 😂

    • @Dflootie
      @Dflootie Před 11 měsíci +3

      @@vanfja he’s literally the most pro establishment guy ever

  • @geenadaniels5560
    @geenadaniels5560 Před rokem +594

    I love listening to Peter Ziehan, he is very entertaining but don’t get to mesmerized by his rap. His job is to sound like he knows everything wether he does or not.

    • @FamiliarAnomaly
      @FamiliarAnomaly Před rokem

      He said 6 months ago russia would use nukes and invade moldova - he just says whatever the state department/deep state want circulating in the news at the time - then they give him expensive contracts to speak at their events and conferences for DoD and etc... this dude is 100% shill.

    • @alexmurphy5289
      @alexmurphy5289 Před rokem +42

      He’s a great example of “confidently incorrect”, globalization is so incredibly complex that anyone who has the knowledge would accept that they can’t predict the future like this man is claiming to

    • @carynmartin6053
      @carynmartin6053 Před rokem

      He's probably a paid by the government schill

    • @samuellp1146
      @samuellp1146 Před rokem +38

      like the former CIA guest that talks a whole 2 hours of nothing

    • @PiouStarcraft
      @PiouStarcraft Před rokem +31

      he says what people like to hear : America's future is great, all the other countries will collapse and you'll dominate them because you are supperiors...

  • @spearruler70
    @spearruler70 Před rokem +297

    Never underestimate how resilient humans are.

    • @loot6
      @loot6 Před rokem +20

      China even survived the whole Mao thing.....well a hell of a lot of them didn't obviously.

    • @jeffyboyreloaded
      @jeffyboyreloaded Před rokem +6

      Exactly. People will do extraordinary things to not die

    • @deflategate1297
      @deflategate1297 Před rokem +1

      What about the Romans though

    • @loot6
      @loot6 Před rokem +3

      @@jeffyboyreloaded Tell that to the 50 million that died under Mao's regime..

    • @testicool013
      @testicool013 Před rokem +2

      What does that have to do with anything he is saying

  • @bryanzee3714
    @bryanzee3714 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Things coming true day to day

  • @ronaldrodriguez305
    @ronaldrodriguez305 Před 10 měsíci

    I wish I could listen to this guy’s voice all day and night is it just me or is his voice settling?

  • @andrecampbell691
    @andrecampbell691 Před rokem +1575

    I listen to Peter with great interest and a heavy dose of skepticism of the coming future.

    • @garysimon7765
      @garysimon7765 Před rokem +16

      10 years because of demographics for china but the US has the baby boomer effect.
      Could be 10 days as China population is in serious condition from covid deaths and infections and now being spread by letting population travel again as 9 of ten is infected with more lethal strains.
      US population is close to realizing what inoculations are doing as deaths suddenly occur and increasing in a youthful population as life insurance companies show a 40% increase in deaths across demographics. Good luck.

    • @tobymcgroby8967
      @tobymcgroby8967 Před rokem +17

      What are you skeptical of? His theory? Or maybe the prediction of the immediate future by experts in China? Chinese government?
      Sorry if it sounds like I'm doubting you, I'm genuinely interested. It's not as easy as it used to be to just Google things, since there aren't any definitive answers anymore.. Everyone claims to be an expert these days, & they all seem to spend more time criticizing their peers instead of providing thoroughly researched proof. It's irritating

    • @duby9811
      @duby9811 Před rokem +10

      He predicted the Ukraine incident

    • @jprosey
      @jprosey Před rokem

      I know right. but whats crazy is that what he is saying was said before by think tanks, and ppl that swear that have seen the future. What's crazy is in 10 years it will be 2033. I read a book that said we will begin to see the changes around this time. climate, global strife, food insecurity.

    • @indiasuperclean6969
      @indiasuperclean6969 Před rokem +12

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  • @yiguanas812
    @yiguanas812 Před rokem +1679

    I watched the full 2 hours. He seems to articulate what the US government might if it had a voice to articulate its hopes and dreams for the future. If intelligence agencies actively sponsor and interfere with twitter, facebook etc. we can assume that they also sponsor authors, public speakers and media personalities.

    • @Meyohe
      @Meyohe Před rokem +216

      This guy is so biased its not even funny...

    • @andrewnmontemayor
      @andrewnmontemayor Před rokem +56

      Great point

    • @CeroAshura
      @CeroAshura Před rokem

      CIA has been known to sponsor many "grass roots" orgs, publishers and authors.

    • @aloominaty
      @aloominaty Před rokem

      EXCEPT FOR THE FACT HE DENIES THE FEDERAL RESERVE IS TRYING TO MAKE A DIGITAL CURRENCY WHICH THEY CAN TAKE AWAY OR MAKE U SPEND ANY TIMW THEY LIKE......THEN HE HAS TO GO HMMM SUS.

    • @ike2k4
      @ike2k4 Před rokem +65

      Team America… fuck yeah

  • @brad799
    @brad799 Před 11 měsíci +70

    I had the opportunity to sit in on a meeting involving a young geopolitical analyst a few years ago in Qatar who was briefing several colonels and a general. The wealth of knowledge these guys have and how to effectively package it into something useful is extraordinary. This guy is giving a very basic overview of what he knows here. Believe that.

    • @bryanergau6682
      @bryanergau6682 Před 10 měsíci

      He said the exact same shit in 2010 and he was wrong. 14 years later, and we're worried about the dollar crashing and China becoming the new world superpower.

    • @emaster01
      @emaster01 Před 10 měsíci

      What’s really important to note is that he has spent the last 25 years talking to industry leaders who just want to hear the answer, and don’t care if the guy sounds arrogant. They don’t want to waste the time to hear all the details, they just want the info required for their decision making processes in as little time as possible.

  • @jkingsr5367
    @jkingsr5367 Před 7 měsíci +4

    Sincere Love & Respect to you Joe Rogan for maintaining such an amazing show of Endless SOLID CONTENT ❤️

  • @jasonlevesque6340
    @jasonlevesque6340 Před rokem +2187

    It's crazy how confidently someone can voice their opinions as absolute fact.

    • @untitled06
      @untitled06 Před rokem

      it makes it even funnier when you line up the dozens of other "Geopolitical Analyst"s who have said this numerous times every year since 2000. Just type into CZcams "the collapse of china" and sort from new. Its laughable how china just lives in their heads rent free, every day.

    • @thecount1001
      @thecount1001 Před rokem +97

      @@rob6354 money.

    • @dutyrover946
      @dutyrover946 Před rokem +89

      yea that's called confidence and good public speaking skills. Do you want him to end every comment with a question mark? Live your life its not that serious

    • @steveyk.7099
      @steveyk.7099 Před rokem

      china sympathizer

    • @joshgarrison8696
      @joshgarrison8696 Před rokem +39

      Math is a crazy drug.

  • @saahastiwari3779
    @saahastiwari3779 Před rokem +1594

    I'm still so fascinated by how Joe can talk to anyone about anything for hours without even being boring or weird

    • @LudiCrust.
      @LudiCrust. Před rokem +45

      He prepares for each guest. They’re planned ahead dude.

    • @saahastiwari3779
      @saahastiwari3779 Před rokem +85

      @@LudiCrust. That's still fascinating planning and keeping a guest engaged throughout the convo

    • @ansonien117
      @ansonien117 Před rokem +22

      Simple public speaking skills

    • @saahastiwari3779
      @saahastiwari3779 Před rokem +104

      @@ansonien117 maybe for you mate but for an introverted nerd like me that's a God tier skill

    • @tennislegendsonlineretrotennis
      @tennislegendsonlineretrotennis Před rokem +16

      @@ansonien117 😂 🤡

  • @qwertykevin1
    @qwertykevin1 Před 4 měsíci

    The ad for this video under the video for me was "American Heating and Air LLC"

  • @DancePartyBlammo
    @DancePartyBlammo Před 7 měsíci +2

    this guy has made is entire career on what if's

  • @chanjoe299
    @chanjoe299 Před rokem +302

    I find it funny.
    In China, people also listen to their analyst on podcasts talking about America have 10 year left.

    • @therearenoshortcuts9868
      @therearenoshortcuts9868 Před rokem +20

      people need clickbait
      if you say things will go up and down but life will continue - people just get really bored

    • @hughriger6177
      @hughriger6177 Před rokem +21

      Thank You!! The Chinese are not going anywhere... They have been around longer than almost any culture... The only country to give them a run for their money being on the planet longer is India... This is pretty basic here... How long has America been around?? Not very long... Very basic math here... Thanx Chan

    • @caketaster404
      @caketaster404 Před rokem +20

      @@hughriger6177 China has approx 3500 years of genuine history, Egypt, India etc have far longer, to name just two. And past longevity is not a great predictor of future success. Although I do disagree with much of what Zeihan says.

    • @chanjoe299
      @chanjoe299 Před rokem

      @caketaster404 bruh, cut the 3500 year bullshit, the Chinese race theory was invented by 梁啟超 in 1900, so it 's not even that old.
      Before that, they only recognized whoever dynasty is in charge, and all this dynasty didn't really get along with each other very.
      The purpose of inventing "Chinese" is no different than your "Uncle Sam"~a made up propaganda for patriot to be proud with.

    • @saoralba4236
      @saoralba4236 Před rokem +20

      America is already gone... have you seen Baltimore, and Philly.. it's like dawn of the damned.

  • @RodriguezProductionz
    @RodriguezProductionz Před rokem +634

    You know the situation is bad when Joe runs out of questions and just takes a deep breath.

    • @parapoliticos52
      @parapoliticos52 Před rokem +39

      It's the fresh BS aroma.

    • @michaelmartin96
      @michaelmartin96 Před rokem +10

      Literally was reading this and Joe took a big exhale right at the end of your comment. 😄

    • @kennymichaelalanya7134
      @kennymichaelalanya7134 Před rokem +3

      It stresses me out when Joe takes a deep breath

    • @bluemoney20
      @bluemoney20 Před rokem +14

      It's because 95% of his audiences believe China is taken over the United States. Joe's thinking about how he going to explain this to his audience 🤣

    • @omensoffate
      @omensoffate Před rokem +2

      @@kennymichaelalanya7134 don’t be stressed sometimes joe forgets he can breathe

  • @robm1438
    @robm1438 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Just an FYI, This guy works the MIC. Literally.

  • @Spaceflightlover2010
    @Spaceflightlover2010 Před 7 měsíci +2

    This guy is relating the outcome of trends, in reality, in their day to day life, people and governments tend to steer things farther away from disaster than those who predict it. IE things are usually never as bad as the naysayers say they will be. The people who said the world will end in ten years, ten years ago for example, and there was no shortage of them, yet here we all are.

  • @CCornish1978
    @CCornish1978 Před rokem +917

    Don't forget, geopolitical analysts are as common and accurate (meaning hardly accurate at all) as economists have been. You can always find one that gives you a narrative that scares you, one that reassures you, and so on. The world is FAR too complex with too many moving issues that no one can predict the future.

    • @anthonymichaeldurkin6244
      @anthonymichaeldurkin6244 Před rokem +8

      trying to outwit life.....

    • @anthonyreed480
      @anthonyreed480 Před rokem +63

      To a certain extent, but demographics are destiny. If the average child born has no brothers, no sisters, no aunts or uncles, no cousins etc. If the birth rate is so low, it's a death spiral. There's no getting around that.

    • @godwintalking4724
      @godwintalking4724 Před rokem +5

      @@anthonyreed480 yup

    • @nonotmelol
      @nonotmelol Před rokem +10

      The problem with both is arguing with certitude on uncertain things. We know for a fact where oil and other fundamental resources are, where they're not, and where they could be. We know for a fact the direction of global demographics. We know how long it takes to construct certain kinds of infrastructure.
      I trust his comments on demographics. I trust his comments on resources. Where he argues from certain things, you can be sure he's right.
      More speculative things like the ability to make quality chips for computers, idk, all it takes is one genius engineer with some patriotism and a lot of money (the CCP uses the money printer far more abusively on any given Tuesday than J Powell did during the deepest throws of COVID). Like if they took Elon's DNA off a hair on his comb last time he visited and created a clone in a vat somewhere in Wuhan, this clone would be able to build a chip factory out of clay. I never bet against innovation, especially when there's easy monetary policy.

    • @Thejokestir8
      @Thejokestir8 Před rokem

      I identify as seeing the future tho 👁️👄👁️

  • @JT-qw1cn
    @JT-qw1cn Před rokem +124

    This dude sounds like me after reading random wikipedia articles for several hours.

    • @RealStonedApe
      @RealStonedApe Před rokem +8

      Lmao - love this comment!! Throw adderall into the mix for added effect 😂😂

    • @Sergioggg77
      @Sergioggg77 Před rokem +1

      Bingo

    • @Kosme88
      @Kosme88 Před rokem

      And you would be more informed than him. This dudes thinks the US has a bug in Xi's office and they can hear every meeting he has and says no one talks to Xi because they can't hear anything
      .He's either on some heavy drugs
      or has a mental problem.

    • @markin_
      @markin_ Před rokem +2

      With some adderal and 9 cups of coffe

  • @kendoglarson5419
    @kendoglarson5419 Před 10 měsíci +4

    I have heard other economists say China only has a few years left before their economy implodes on them. I've literally heard them say as quick as 2 years and that was 6 months ago. If this is true does this make China even more dangerous and desperate?

    • @CWOClark
      @CWOClark Před 9 měsíci

      That is what I am saying!

    • @Montyweb
      @Montyweb Před 8 měsíci

      They might try something but they really are a paper dragon, they endanger themselves more than anyone else

    • @bldomain
      @bldomain Před 2 měsíci

      @@Montyweb hahaha-have you heard of the race between the tortoise and the hare. In the middle of the race he took a nap as he is so confident that he will win because he look down on the tortoise and when he woke up the tortoise has crossed the finish line. If all Americans are taking a nap like you then China will win.

  • @jimboslice6367
    @jimboslice6367 Před 10 měsíci +2

    I’m a time traveler from 2033, and I can confirm none of this happened

  • @devaa5285
    @devaa5285 Před rokem +119

    Please have him back after 10 years

    • @JJWalters
      @JJWalters Před rokem +2

      Why is CZcams blocking the replies here... It says "Two replies" and yet when I click it, nothing comes up...

    • @ilovetruth8885
      @ilovetruth8885 Před rokem

      Yeah please bring him back in 10 years. because It would prove what a liar this guy is .

  • @thanosandnobill3789
    @thanosandnobill3789 Před rokem +646

    "Aside from the United States not going anywhere, I would say we expect the economic collapse of China in this coming decade." Peter Zeihan at Stratfor, January of 2010

    • @joeroganpodfantasy42
      @joeroganpodfantasy42 Před rokem +72

      Zeihan 2022 "Russia wants to invade half of Eastern Europe to fortify it's borders , analysis made like we ar in the 1500s and the risk of cavalry hordes is a reality.

    • @jdruze7
      @jdruze7 Před rokem

      @@joeroganpodfantasy42 Russia invades Ukraine and fights an artillery led ground war like its WWI.

    • @joeroganpodfantasy42
      @joeroganpodfantasy42 Před rokem +32

      @@jdruze7 Russia will have chewed out Ukraine by the end of year and continue to test the NATO in the Baltics.
      As far as I know the borders have not moved much for 1 year straight.

    • @oakinwol
      @oakinwol Před rokem +153

      He was off by like 2 years. China's real estate market just fell through the floor and that's literally like 25-30% of local government resources. They're in a really bad way. Plus factories are moving out because they aren't the cheapest place to manufacture anymore. Someone would have to make the case for why china's going to thrive not why china's going to collapse

    • @ivanjulian2532
      @ivanjulian2532 Před rokem +78

      @@oakinwol agreed. Peter Z makes predictions which are extrapolated from hard data points. I, for one, concur that we've already seen "peak China".

  • @tiievans
    @tiievans Před 10 měsíci

    I like these podcasts

  • @tylercarrell
    @tylercarrell Před 4 měsíci

    It’s almost like he just crunched the numbers based on how things are going at this moment assuming they won’t make any attempt to correct the issue, not to mention that they would almost inevitably get bailed out if that didn’t work considering how much we depend on them to manufacture

  • @phelipeheringer6058
    @phelipeheringer6058 Před rokem +1544

    This guy is so well spoken and articulate that if he told me I'm unicorn with diabetes I'd believe him

    • @ivand0007
      @ivand0007 Před rokem

      🤡🤡🤡

    • @belliot758
      @belliot758 Před rokem +49

      And that is in part, a large part, of why his message, though flawed and full of misrepresentation and errored facts, is so dangerous

    • @Based_Is_Best
      @Based_Is_Best Před rokem +4

      The truth is easy to sell

    • @wyzeyzere
      @wyzeyzere Před rokem +3

      🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @MikeCastelonia
      @MikeCastelonia Před rokem +13

      I thought he was talking about America

  • @Adontheimperfectionist
    @Adontheimperfectionist Před rokem +605

    This is one of those guys you can learn a lot from but also not trust his full stop truth

    • @tomlopez7819
      @tomlopez7819 Před rokem +10

      Full stop truth. I love that phrase.

    • @RetiredInThailand
      @RetiredInThailand Před rokem +6

      no you can't learn a lot from him, at least not anything that is true or within context.
      Listen to what he's claiming, the write down anything he's claiming as a fact (ignore his conclusions for now and just concentrate on his started facts) and then see if he's either telling a straight up lie (China's trade situation) or taking it totally out of context (diabetes rate, actually lottery than the USA, and doctors, which is comparable to the USA and Canada, while all 3 are gay behind most of the developed world, or even Cuba.)

    • @Polydueces
      @Polydueces Před rokem +11

      I got that exact same impression. At around 5 minutes, Joe tries asking how China will combat it and he flatly says they'll die all the same. I got that, "Well he's clearly a very educated man," reaction combined with, 'okay, maybe he's too sure of himself.' lol

    • @vanillasnowx
      @vanillasnowx Před rokem +3

      you have to watch his presentation that he does for companies and whoever. i suggest watching on youtube "peter zeihan keynote speaker 2019"

    • @clamum9648
      @clamum9648 Před rokem +2

      @@RetiredInThailand Did you just say American is behind Cuba in doctors or healthcare?

  • @pobsarducttapeproducts8763
    @pobsarducttapeproducts8763 Před 10 měsíci

    Gordon Chang went over this. They had a meeting about whether they could handle sanctions and no one said yes

  • @harryurz
    @harryurz Před 8 měsíci +1

    Ive watched Zeihan's predictions on the Ukraine war come true one by one, so all I can say to those who are skeptical of his predictions is watch a few more of his videos covering a world-wide context

    • @Blade8Nr
      @Blade8Nr Před 7 měsíci

      such as? the predictions coming true

  • @NotKimiRaikkonen
    @NotKimiRaikkonen Před rokem +994

    In the late 80's Japan was predicted to surpass the US as the world's largest economy. Things don't always necessarily continue to follow their current projections

    • @litdav
      @litdav Před rokem +68

      was it predicted by him? if not, what does this have to do with the video above

    • @indiasuperclean6969
      @indiasuperclean6969 Před rokem +45

      WOW VERY DANGEROUS SIR!😠😠BUT THIS WHY IM SO LUCKY LIVE IN SUPER INDIA 🤗🇮🇳 THE CLEANEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD , WE NEVER SCAM AND WE GIVE RESPECT TO ALL WOMEN THEY CAN WALK SAFELY ALONE AT NIGHT AND WE HAVE CLEAN FOOD AND TOILET EVERYWHERE 🇮🇳🤗🚽, I KNOW MANY POOR PEOPLE JEALOUS WITH SUPER RICH INDIA 🤗🇮🇳🤗🇮🇳🤗🇮🇳🤗

    • @dano1307
      @dano1307 Před rokem +52

      @@litdavThats not the point of OPs comment. He is saying Chinas economy has been growing and growing lately and people have been saying they will overtake the US. His point being that people said the same thing about Japan but it never happened.

    • @paranoidhumanoid
      @paranoidhumanoid Před rokem +13

      There's no connection between China and Japan.

    • @sharonnuffer3558
      @sharonnuffer3558 Před rokem

      @p o p Japan will have their own military in 5 years because it can no longer rely on USA. But we are supposed to

  • @cordellsenior9935
    @cordellsenior9935 Před rokem +536

    This man is so self-assured, it makes me not believe him. But at the same time, I also think one cannot afford to dismiss him.

    • @damiannordmann-invinciblee6049
      @damiannordmann-invinciblee6049 Před rokem +34

      Read or listen to his book, The End of the World is Just the Beginning...He and his team have been researching this stuff for well over a decade and they are thorough AF.

    • @swk327
      @swk327 Před rokem

      @@damiannordmann-invinciblee6049 He is conman, and full of shit put next to real analyst, he would get mopped. His youtube videos are total clickbait.

    • @BilboBagginsStory
      @BilboBagginsStory Před rokem +13

      Well worded, 10 minutes into the episode and turned it off. 10 seconds later i found myself covered in guilt and had to turn that on again. Great podcast, one of the most interesting and scary ones.

    • @xtc2v
      @xtc2v Před rokem +5

      @@damiannordmann-invinciblee6049 He seems to have lost sight of the fact that wealth comes from using fossil fuel and not from population

    • @tomasonderco7324
      @tomasonderco7324 Před rokem +42

      I've been watching his videos for a while and I think he's full of shit. He doesn't bring much evidence and his favorite line is "we now know" how do we know this?

  • @aniswehbe445
    @aniswehbe445 Před 7 měsíci

    An adjustment isnt a super catastrophic or even catastrophic collapse. And later things will get better still further adjusting.

  • @susansmith6058
    @susansmith6058 Před 10 měsíci

    68 yrs old and trying to wrap my head around this discussion …. 🤔🧐

  • @padebro2683
    @padebro2683 Před rokem +1454

    3 qualities I admire about Joe's podcasts.
    1) He allows his guest to share their knowledge.
    2) He asks questions we would like to.
    3) He is honest about not knowing which allows his guest to explain better so the rest of us sitting back saying Huh? stand a chance to understand.
    🐝Thanks Joe and enjoy your🍯honey🙃

    • @chrismatthews6517
      @chrismatthews6517 Před rokem +16

      I totally agree there's not many podcasts I can listen to before calling bullshit but Joe Rogan is right on the money with what you said 👍

    • @wildan2136
      @wildan2136 Před rokem +2

      yeah that's what keep joe rogan real. unlike many podcast who just agree with the information

    • @miztaken_5477
      @miztaken_5477 Před rokem +1

      It’s Mad Honey 😂

    • @hottoddy1071
      @hottoddy1071 Před rokem

      Very well put, I enjoyed this guest. Invested from jump!!!😳

    • @lovewinseveryday
      @lovewinseveryday Před rokem +2

      Allows the guest to talk and lets us decide what to think

  • @andreapapapostolou1029
    @andreapapapostolou1029 Před rokem +709

    The missing variable factor in all of this is how much effort a group of humans puts in to fix a problem. If the only variables you consider are the problems then everything adds up to an imminent disaster.

    • @wendyspear
      @wendyspear Před rokem +15

      Exactly! Humans are quite ingenious at fixing problems.

    • @Gia010611
      @Gia010611 Před rokem +32

      @@wendyspearTrue, but they are quite talented at causing them too... its a doubled edged blade.

    • @tanz5275
      @tanz5275 Před rokem +7

      Fix what exactly? And Well also the problem being is these aren’t decisions we get to make this is decisions of people of power so is it really us? I feel like we say this every time someone comes out and says something different.

    • @levelazn
      @levelazn Před rokem

      As long as the ccp is in charge China will always have an over population problem.

    • @DaniTofte
      @DaniTofte Před rokem +5

      Will Covid “help” their demographic “problem”?

  • @carolinabullfighter574
    @carolinabullfighter574 Před 18 dny +1

    A broken clock is right twice a day.

  • @strumptavianroboclick5596
    @strumptavianroboclick5596 Před 7 měsíci +1

    For certain.. anytime anyone says that you know its full of bs

  • @ejfeldmann
    @ejfeldmann Před rokem +488

    I think the the most shocking part of this Interview is when Peter told Joe “ well, let’s not oversell it …..” 😂😂

    • @karlmoody4891
      @karlmoody4891 Před rokem +9

      It made me think of the conversations in " Burn After Reading " between the CIA superior and his subordinate. Just running sh*t while being just a few steps away from being clueless.

    • @AwesomeBlackDude
      @AwesomeBlackDude Před rokem

      Nor no serious investigation of Blackrock CEO Larry Fink regarding their $20 trillion scheme in ESG earnings.
      Why is Blackrock allowed to be part of the Joe Biden administration?

    • @williamgill5286
      @williamgill5286 Před rokem +1

      so youve got cahoneys?

    • @GungaLaGunga
      @GungaLaGunga Před rokem +2

      @@karlmoody4891 so let's not do that again. Although I have no idea what we did in the first place. or however that line went. lol so good. love that movie.

    • @B.Precision
      @B.Precision Před rokem +7

      Zeihan was peddling the China collapse since 2010...back then he said it will happen by 2019.

  • @maverickproduct
    @maverickproduct Před rokem +659

    Peter having Joe Rogan stressed out had to be the funniest parts of the podcast

    • @dubletar7351
      @dubletar7351 Před rokem +18

      Watch Peter Zeihan’s 1-2 hour long data-filled seminars. They would blow your mind.

    • @rh81454
      @rh81454 Před rokem +10

      @@dubletar7351 He's fantastic. He understands so many complex issues.

    • @milo2324
      @milo2324 Před rokem +21

      those deep breaths
      😂😂😂😂

    • @scroopynooperz9051
      @scroopynooperz9051 Před rokem +9

      @@rh81454 has he predicted anything of significance sofar?
      He certainly likes talking and he does so with conviction.. but that is hardly an indication of in-depth knowledge and an undertaking of complex interconnected systems.
      When does he predict the current US system will collapse?

    • @frost1183
      @frost1183 Před rokem +5

      Joe gets scared by the weirdest things

  • @mcthunderstick2374
    @mcthunderstick2374 Před 10 měsíci +5

    “Men can’t have kids on their own” FACTS 😂

  • @vincentli3416
    @vincentli3416 Před 5 dny +1

    Interesting to revisit this video a year later, in March 2024. China's economic situation seems even more challenging than in 2023. Let's check back next year and see if the trajectory holds.

  • @MrPastysmasha
    @MrPastysmasha Před rokem +165

    The way he delivers his points is like its already happened haha

    • @user-fo9hs9ep8g
      @user-fo9hs9ep8g Před rokem

      🙄😄😄😂

    • @randyjones3050
      @randyjones3050 Před rokem +16

      Peter Zeihan has a very well rehearsed presentation that he has been delivering in generally the same format for well over a decade. His presentations are all over CZcams if you go looking for them. He generally says the same thing in most of them with only minor differences based on updated data. He's been doing this same basic presentation for a long time which is why he sounds so confident.

    • @alexanderphilip1809
      @alexanderphilip1809 Před rokem +3

      @@randyjones3050 Oh yes. You can find videos that where shot in 2013s. Quality is subpar but he's been at it for a while. His dates are more than a bit off but questioning the inevitability is hard, I found his videos in early 2016s.
      I say this as a skeptic of projections that predict the collapse of entire nation states, given the available data just from the clear net China's overdependance on the world is glaringly clear. He has sone great insights. Read his work after Marshall's, so not a bad follow up.

    • @MagnusNemo-xc5nx
      @MagnusNemo-xc5nx Před rokem

      Just say it with conviction and it must be true, ahaha. What a blowhard.

    • @theicecreamjones
      @theicecreamjones Před rokem +6

      it's to make himself sound credible and act like he knows what he's talking about....in this clip he calls something undoubtedly after saying he has no data or info on it hahahaha

  • @mitch5502
    @mitch5502 Před rokem +190

    This whole podcast followed this process: Joe asks Peter a question ---- Peter provides a detailed analysis with a mostly negative outlook --- Joe: PPPPHHHEEEEWWWWWW

    • @vantablack6809
      @vantablack6809 Před rokem +4

      😂

    • @indiasuperclean6969
      @indiasuperclean6969 Před rokem

      WOW VERY DANGEROUS SIR!😠😠 BUT THIS WHY IM SO LUCKY LIVE IN SUPER INDIA 🤗🇮🇳 THE CLEANEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD , WE NEVER SCAM AND WE GIVE RESPECT TO ALL WOMEN THEY CAN WALK SAFELY ALONE AT NIGHT AND WE HAVE CLEAN FOOD AND TOILET EVERYWHERE 🇮🇳🤗🚽, I KNOW MANY POOR PEOPLE JEALOUS WITH SUPER RICH INDIA 🤗🇮🇳🤗🇮🇳🤗🇮🇳🤗 🇮🇳🤗

    • @PlayingDaGames
      @PlayingDaGames Před rokem

      @@indiasuperclean6969 I'LL SACRIFICE MY LIFE FOR PAKISTAAAAAAAAAAN I LOVE PAKISTAAAAN

    • @johnreese7291
      @johnreese7291 Před rokem

      This is why I pray to the great one BABABOIE!!! He the one and only creator!! Our country I s the best and always will be BABABOIE -land!!!!🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

    • @YL-fb9kb
      @YL-fb9kb Před rokem

      "Detailed analysis"... lol Ukrainian casualties, gay demons, China's sex ratio, Putin is terminally ill, there's literally nothing to back these things up.

  • @arthurbrickner9800
    @arthurbrickner9800 Před 29 dny +1

    I would love to see his thoughts on the falling birth rates in the us

  • @mitchellbaker4806
    @mitchellbaker4806 Před 10 měsíci +1

    He said this 13 years ago too.

  • @chrisd997
    @chrisd997 Před rokem +815

    dudes confidence was amazing. Can wait to see him after 2030 proclaiming again the same stuff for selling his books.

    • @karimshebeika8010
      @karimshebeika8010 Před rokem +11

      reminds me on cashing in on all the bets about WWIII starting throughout the last decade...

    • @bookerman16
      @bookerman16 Před rokem +11

      As though the people would be dumb enough to fall for that. “Goes back and references Al Gores movie” 🤣

    • @Zack-jc9yb
      @Zack-jc9yb Před rokem

      Do you think he's right on 50% of it or more or less?

    • @marksutherlandjr.2121
      @marksutherlandjr.2121 Před rokem

      Imagine if this all ages well, though. How cool would it be to lean back hands behind your head with big dic energy like, "I FUKN TRIED TO WARN YOU FOOLS"

    • @devinmichaelroberts9954
      @devinmichaelroberts9954 Před rokem +18

      @@Zack-jc9yb dude he predicted that Russia would begin invading neighbors way back in 2018. SO yea he's definitely right on some things AND @karimshebeika8010 guess what, if we do end up in a world war from escalation in Ukraine he will have been absolutely right in his prediction of WW3

  • @bulldog6545
    @bulldog6545 Před rokem +1109

    Peter published an article in 2010 saying China would collapse in the next decade. fast forward to now, China is still here. Peter basically keeps predicting every decade until either it happens or he dies of old age still predicting.

    • @jaylucas8352
      @jaylucas8352 Před 10 měsíci

      Haha 😂 true. He’s full of baboon poop

    • @MichaTheLight
      @MichaTheLight Před 10 měsíci

      Agreed it's always the same crap. Sure CN could follow the west but they have much more years in the tank. CN is the new empire and anglosaxons must lie to themselves to ignore these fact. They now try to make that silly military intervention in TW with regime change crap by 2027. What they aren't consider they could have lost their currency before that.

    • @jacob_90s
      @jacob_90s Před 10 měsíci +93

      Fair, but timing is always hard. Think back to the 2008 financial crisis. Everyone likes to talk about Michael Burry and the others, but there were plenty of people who recognized the problems caused by the actions of the banks and the government's policies years and years before. Identifying structural problems doesn't mean you'll be able to time the exact moment everything falls apart.
      Again it's fair to criticize him for trying to give a specific timeline; he probably should know better, but I do think you should evaluate his claims of the structural problems independent of his timeline.

    • @melissaseago536
      @melissaseago536 Před 10 měsíci

      China has existed for thousands of years. USA on the other hand is a newby compared to that.

    • @wokeitofflee9797
      @wokeitofflee9797 Před 10 měsíci

      Nope. It has collapsed. You as a westerner have no idead whats happening on the inside. The only thing you see is them fleeing by the thousands trying to get into USA.
      What's happening now is the result of cowardliness of the Chinese people for letting the CCP taking over every espect of their lives and did nothing about it.

  • @thorburnjschwegler
    @thorburnjschwegler Před 8 měsíci

    Wow this convo is wild

  • @TraderChriis
    @TraderChriis Před rokem +502

    His confidence on these conclusions is absurd, hard to take him seriously

    • @ChrisLutz3
      @ChrisLutz3 Před rokem

      @@upwardspiral7441 China will die lol specific enough?

    • @enriccoc7794
      @enriccoc7794 Před rokem +19

      @@upwardspiral7441 sir, this is not Spotify this is a 14 min clip

    • @derbigpr500
      @derbigpr500 Před rokem

      He's an american geopolitical expert. It's his job to talk BS and lie about other countries to make them look bad in order to make USA look better in comparison. This guy lies the moment he opens his mouth.

    • @De_Jere
      @De_Jere Před rokem +20

      @@upwardspiral7441 ??? It's literally a 14 minute video of ONE topic, wdym "be specific"? He was way too overconfident for the whole duration of the clip, probably the whole podcast too.

    • @PurpleHazeVanNederlands
      @PurpleHazeVanNederlands Před rokem +18

      He literally works for the state department and his views match the MIC on EVERY issue.

  • @matthouston124
    @matthouston124 Před rokem +634

    I love how Joe is not pretentious and is genuinely interested in all those topics, that's why he is a great listener

    • @lulumoon6942
      @lulumoon6942 Před rokem +9

      He has said he only invites on people who interest him.

    • @taahasiddiqui1071
      @taahasiddiqui1071 Před rokem +6

      @@lulumoon6942 Yeah I was confused why this guy even mentioned it, like of course he is going to be interested, he invited the person on. He's not going to invite some one and be like you're boring why are you here.

    • @replexity
      @replexity Před rokem +8

      @@taahasiddiqui1071 I raise you Neil deGrasse Tyson

    • @timryan2058
      @timryan2058 Před rokem +1

      Ya just love it huh?

    • @WookieGolgberg
      @WookieGolgberg Před rokem +2

      Hey Matt, no one cares.

  • @cerealpeer
    @cerealpeer Před 8 měsíci

    yeah inflation looks fine compared to contraction and the shcomp is actually not collapsing at all. so far as i can tell the housing market and real assets in semis havent gone anywhere. theyre perfectly comfortable conucting this counter trade war. the rmb is sinking, but the damage is being well controlled. i dont think were winning this one.

    • @cerealpeer
      @cerealpeer Před 8 měsíci

      bitcoin has taken a serious blow...

  • @user-lp2jw8xk6i
    @user-lp2jw8xk6i Před 9 měsíci +1

    This dude is so absolutely full of it, I cannot wait for this to age

  • @inisus
    @inisus Před rokem +188

    He seems very confident in what he says. With people like this I wish Joe would say after half an hour: and now we bring in Mr. X to have a 3-way conversation, and look at it from another angle. I would be more confident about what he says if I heard some criticism first.

    • @nickb839
      @nickb839 Před rokem

      China is a joke and diversity is a strength. Their neighbor to the south is rising, the Indian race.

    • @romanmarshall602
      @romanmarshall602 Před rokem +3

      Educate yourself on the points that sound obtuse, you be the critic

    • @nickb839
      @nickb839 Před rokem

      We are all mixed. United by cultural identity.

    • @nickb839
      @nickb839 Před rokem +1

      Everyone should be treated equal. I’m in the US and some of the connections we have the proud boys etc whatever you want to call them are all dead meat. Make sure everything runs smooth.

    • @MIddleJaman
      @MIddleJaman Před rokem +1

      Yep, would love to get Mr. Xi Jinping's thoughts on this too

  • @preneilpillay4326
    @preneilpillay4326 Před rokem +335

    Joe needs to get this guy and Mike Baker in studio so we can listen to them debate their views on China 😂

    • @carloscjr23
      @carloscjr23 Před rokem +30

      They both will say the same cia script

    • @Launchpad1892
      @Launchpad1892 Před rokem

      I think it's pretty clear this guy was an establishment tool. Nearly every single thing he said was the exact opposite of what most independent journalists are saying. He's trying to switch the narrative. I have to admit I was even buying it for a while until I remembered the beginning of the Podcast he said he was working for the government. Or with....somehow connected.

    • @RunningAdventures66
      @RunningAdventures66 Před rokem +1

      This what I want to know exactly once I think China's just going to dominate the world and take over the other side thinks it's not going to exist in 10 years it can't be both

    • @Launchpad1892
      @Launchpad1892 Před rokem +10

      @@RunningAdventures66 Good point. It's either a grave threat or going to be non-existent

    • @RunningAdventures66
      @RunningAdventures66 Před rokem +7

      @@Launchpad1892 it's somewhere in the middle and I think most of this is just Scare Tactics propaganda. I say that cuz if 99% of Joe Rogan's podcast it's either DMT or trying to scare the s*** out of you

  • @johnnock6685
    @johnnock6685 Před 8 měsíci +1

    To sum up Peter Z ; everybody is in trouble , we’ll be ok

  • @RedHorseman66
    @RedHorseman66 Před 11 měsíci +19

    Sounds like this guy is projecting his country's future.

    • @zoogie980
      @zoogie980 Před 6 měsíci

      You're not wrong but the US is in a much better place than China is. The US has the capacity to at the very least produce their own food and energy. China cannot.

    • @spartjovic
      @spartjovic Před 2 měsíci

      He seems to be convinced of what he wants to happen.

  • @tocov
    @tocov Před rokem +243

    Man, CM Punk really took a turn with this new career of his.

    • @Noahboy8
      @Noahboy8 Před rokem

      He was bullshitting in mma, so he decided to bullshit in geopolitics.

    • @Nezfitness777
      @Nezfitness777 Před rokem

      The Bot accounts in China are working overtime eh?

    • @jamesrobb474
      @jamesrobb474 Před rokem +6

      Was thinking same. Not quite the pipe b o m b I was thinking. Lol

    • @solarpoweredafricanvegansp178
    • @davsavchav
      @davsavchav Před rokem +3

      No no, this is Aaron Rodgers' estranged relative.

  • @MCSizzle1116
    @MCSizzle1116 Před rokem +108

    Joe: when you say “going away” you don’t mean-
    Peter: *they’ll die, Joe*

  • @AdamChavez-dq7bd
    @AdamChavez-dq7bd Před 8 měsíci +1

    We're living a real RISK board game....... 🤷‍♂️🥀

  • @zyswanson7865
    @zyswanson7865 Před 5 měsíci +1

    What I want to know is if there’s a possibility for a civil war to start?

  • @malachirobinson7323
    @malachirobinson7323 Před rokem +254

    He's literally saying the polar opposite of everything we have heard about china for the last 5-10 yrs

    • @papi-sauce
      @papi-sauce Před rokem +70

      cuz is provocative gets the pplz going.

    • @ynkybomber
      @ynkybomber Před rokem +14

      Not really

    • @crox3544
      @crox3544 Před rokem +4

      @@papi-sauce lol

    • @Laneous14
      @Laneous14 Před rokem

      Because the people telling us China is an amazing rising power all had money invested either in China or in the military industrial complex to fight China. It's not hard.
      The ADV guys were more accurate about Covid more than a year before the mainstream media because they read Chinese social media and news stories and just used basic common sense. The fact that people are still hedging their bets on whether or not it came from the lab is just as mindblowing as people still accepting Epstein committed suicide.

    • @domnubest
      @domnubest Před rokem +23

      This is gonna happen for usa not China 🤣🤣🤣🤡

  • @victorlu9735
    @victorlu9735 Před rokem +511

    When China has only 10 years left, Joe seems really concerned while Peter seems beyond exited.

    • @sunnyli2017
      @sunnyli2017 Před rokem

      I mean I would be too, Russia or China or any major players in the world is a huge part of the world. It is going to have global impact not matter what happens

    • @xertz2502
      @xertz2502 Před rokem +72

      We should be excited.

    • @keeganfinkenbiner9376
      @keeganfinkenbiner9376 Před rokem

      If you see the collapse of Russia and chinas current regimes as anything other than a positive your insane. It’s the inevitable death of a socialist/communist philosophy that has proven to fail and has only lasted this long because of the extreme propping up of these nations by other more sustainable powers

    • @TheRealCaptainFreedom
      @TheRealCaptainFreedom Před rokem +55

      @@xertz2502 Yeah but he said _exited._

    • @panderingpelosi
      @panderingpelosi Před rokem

      Per AOC the world ends in 10 years...so theres that lol

  • @christiand.7404
    @christiand.7404 Před 10 měsíci +2

    That GDP growth says that they are expanding vastly compared to the west

  • @SlippinJimmy4Life
    @SlippinJimmy4Life Před 10 měsíci +2

    Double or nothing but I’ll hold the money for us to keep it safe

  • @T-Mo_
    @T-Mo_ Před rokem +666

    I loved the ending of the podcast. Zeihan says, "I'm glad you enjoyed yourself" while Rogan looks completely beat down like he has the flu, from all the negative forecasts.

    • @ViDaBMusic
      @ViDaBMusic Před rokem +11

      😭😭😭😂😂😂

    • @kizmetgraphics
      @kizmetgraphics Před rokem

      How is China Falling Negative?

    • @rh81454
      @rh81454 Před rokem +24

      The episode is fucking awesome lol Joe's heavy breathing should get a guest spot next episode: 😲💨

    • @acas6551
      @acas6551 Před rokem +6

      Replacement theory is valid

    • @T-Mo_
      @T-Mo_ Před rokem +22

      @@rh81454 😂. Bet Rogan really wanted to steer the conversation towards elk meat and the relationship between Amanita muscaria mushrooms and Santa Claus.

  • @teamlazer
    @teamlazer Před rokem +1101

    10 years is a really good period of time for “predictions”.. it’s far enough away to avoid being held accountable, and yet soon enough to create a sense of urgency to go out and buy this guys books and get him paid airtime, and all he has to do is sound confident.
    I give him 10/10 for hustle ability. Probably would be decent at selling used cars as well.

    • @junglelane
      @junglelane Před rokem +28

      Well said

    • @Danny-qh4su
      @Danny-qh4su Před rokem +31

      Haha well said. AI production in 10 years will change the game. Also China in 2022 leads in AI papers and parents, and is developing technology. People have been shitting on their innovation for so long they can’t change that mental model. There’s so many software developers in China it’s crazy.

    • @karenthomson9749
      @karenthomson9749 Před rokem +2

      Exactly.

    • @Eric.Gonzalez
      @Eric.Gonzalez Před rokem +20

      Peter Zeihan in 2014, I would say he was 90% right... czcams.com/video/MIdUSqsz0Io/video.html

    • @sleepEasy2
      @sleepEasy2 Před rokem +10

      Yup he will find suckers for his book if he is not paid for this already