PHOEBE PHILO DEBUT COLLECTION

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  • čas přidán 6. 09. 2024

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  • @reflectioneternally
    @reflectioneternally Před 10 měsíci +22

    After Iman’s comments I cannot support. I never knew Phoebe was upset that she would have to be forced to hire Black models. She doesn’t deserve my money. Have fun y’all.

    • @jonnyfendi2003
      @jonnyfendi2003 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Yet you’re on every single Phoebe Philo video saying this. Its almost like you hate follow her. Get a life.

  • @LulaWestLuxe
    @LulaWestLuxe Před 10 měsíci +62

    Unfortunately, I was a bit disappointed by this release. I was expecting streamlined and minimalist, but these designs felt rather uninspired to me. Just my personal opinion, of course. I enjoyed your review! ❤

    • @hellocatwalkcity
      @hellocatwalkcity  Před 10 měsíci +9

      Totally underwhelmed and was trying to stay positive throughout the video bc it was such a long awaited debut 😢

    • @LulaWestLuxe
      @LulaWestLuxe Před 10 měsíci +2

      @@hellocatwalkcity I totally understand!! It’s tough when you’ve waited and anticipated something for so long!! But on a positive note, it’s just the first collection and it will be interesting to see how she build upon this foundation in future releases.

  • @Lili-kj5vz
    @Lili-kj5vz Před 5 měsíci

    So beautiful ! Elegant cuts and smart details. Thank you.

  • @carriea.7716
    @carriea.7716 Před 10 měsíci +10

    Nothing I'm dying to buy... nothing stand out, I guess I just saved thousands😊

  • @aokiQ
    @aokiQ Před 10 měsíci +15

    I agree! I’m so underwhelmed !
    The bags are so overpriced for what it is, so are the clothes, the materials they used it’s not worth the price at all.
    But I’m kinda feeling relieved 😌 my money is safe for now 😅😂

    • @hellocatwalkcity
      @hellocatwalkcity  Před 10 měsíci +4

      Hehe I know the feeling! I was bracing myself for a whole lot of temptation but quickly realized my money won’t be going anywhere for now. 😉

    • @jessicahan6274
      @jessicahan6274 Před 10 měsíci +3

      Overpriced & underwhelmed 😢

  • @kbaut2579
    @kbaut2579 Před 10 měsíci +8

    I was very underwhelmed with this debut collection, especially at such a high price point.

  • @Luccol-ii4en
    @Luccol-ii4en Před 10 měsíci +3

    I love Phoebe’s work at Celine. I was excited to see her own brand and frankly a lot of the designs are not new. The price is clearly there to weed out the “common” consumers and it’s clear to all that this is reserved only for the affluent. I see a lot of people raving about the high quality. Hmmmmm, how can you tell? Have you touched/feel the products? One thing I do have to applaud is the marketing strategy. Having the really limited quantity so half the products are sold out within a couple of hours is genius! It’ll feed on people’s desire to be part of an elite group and in the iykyk club and creates a frenzy for many to want to score items from the brand. I think it’s great that she is back in the game but for me, I’ll just admire from afar.

    • @hellocatwalkcity
      @hellocatwalkcity  Před 10 měsíci +1

      Same, keeping my distance and actually not even admiring from afar in this case. I’m not impressed. I’ll simply stay tuned to see what she does with her next collection but won’t hold my breathe. 😣

  • @annydu5361
    @annydu5361 Před 10 měsíci +6

    Great commentary and analysis ❤😊

  • @fgzy123
    @fgzy123 Před 10 měsíci +10

    Recently found out she felt "forced" when it came to hiring non-white models. Disappointing and won't be buying her new label. Don't have to be a minority to be offended by that. I believe Iman.

    • @hellocatwalkcity
      @hellocatwalkcity  Před 10 měsíci +3

      Yes it’s such a shame. I had no idea until another viewer told me about the Iman interview. Made me feel all sorts of yuck 🤮.

  • @Mia-sp8jc
    @Mia-sp8jc Před 10 měsíci +6

    The outer wear offerings are outstanding🌹 However, she is missing a must-have bag. TY, for this detailed assessment 🌹

  • @iamjulia9458
    @iamjulia9458 Před 10 měsíci +6

    So much anticipation but when I go to her website, I’m like huh?underwhelmed for sure.. Her collection is not cheap but quite a few designs are sold out! Not a fan for sure.. it seems like she is just using old designs.. and give a little spin.. I feel meh. 😮

  • @FrenchFifi65
    @FrenchFifi65 Před 10 měsíci +3

    Agree with all of your reviews, wanted to be excited about fresh designs but not necessarily inspiring me:( I really wanted to like the lace up heels, I pictured them with black tights and skirt, etc. Sadly the design is just a smidge off for me. But it is the first collection so let’s see how she refines her designs. Thanks for the quick review!

  • @bingkosaurus
    @bingkosaurus Před 10 měsíci +4

    Totally agree with you. Love the high turtle neck top. But the bags, nothing really caught my eye. I dislike the lobster clasps on the white/brown bag, look cheap to me

  • @jennarie83
    @jennarie83 Před 10 měsíci +2

    I don’t feel like any of these styles would flatter me. Especially those shoes.

  • @abbycatherine8135
    @abbycatherine8135 Před 10 měsíci +2

    As someone who didn't know who Philo was before she left Celine and is pretty neutral on her, I find it perplexing that some people comment that they're not all that excited about this new collection but want to support her new launch. It makes me think that we are all too eager to follow, like sheep. I only saw a few headlines about her collection from fashion publications, and they were pretty positive. My opinion is, let them have it! I agree that it is kind of odd and overpriced. I guess that I have no real designer brand loyalty. We should all just buy what we like and not feel compelled to support any one (highly compensated) designer, possibly to our own detriment! Great review! ❤

    • @hellocatwalkcity
      @hellocatwalkcity  Před 10 měsíci

      We can support the individual without buying the items 😉 and I totally agree with you, we should all just buy what we want and not what the culture says. Philo left at the peak of her career so this has been a much anticipated return. Unfortunately for many of us, it is underwhelming and disappointing but that’s okay. To each their own.

  • @rosecolouredglasses
    @rosecolouredglasses Před 10 měsíci +2

    I think she achieved her goals. The pieces she made are pretty timeless. I can't put a finger on them if they were made in the 90s, 2000s, 2010s or now.

  • @emiliabolsas
    @emiliabolsas Před 10 měsíci +8

    I love the coats, like the loafers and some of the cuts and angles but I’m with you on the overall “meh.” Interesting that the bag strap clasps are the same as her original ones for Celine. I imagine the “sold out” is due to collectors as well as reflecting a desire to support her return. May she find her footing with future seasons.

  • @leens4190
    @leens4190 Před 10 měsíci +7

    I hope she’s changed her views on using Black and Brown models up sell her collections. Until there’s demonstration of progress, I’m abstaining. As a woman of colour, I’m surprised you didn’t comment on this at all. Or it this new info? @hellocatwalkcity 🧐

    • @hellocatwalkcity
      @hellocatwalkcity  Před 10 měsíci

      I wasn’t aware about this controversy until someone else commented about it. I think the fashion industry as a whole has come a long way, and still has ways to go.

    • @reflectioneternally
      @reflectioneternally Před 10 měsíci +6

      This isn’t new info. Iman called her out in 2013. Anyone in fashion was aware of this. Iman did a radio interview recently and they asked her about those comments. This video praising her return is tone deaf.

  • @espressoandensembles
    @espressoandensembles Před 10 měsíci +1

    Can’t wait to check out her debut collection! Thank you for bringing this to our attention!!! ❤

  • @zaasfromparis
    @zaasfromparis Před 10 měsíci +2

    The « sold out » scam … it’s not really sold out it’s another trick, you put just a few pieces then you put it sold out then people just wait for it the pressure rises and then when when you put them back online, it’s like crazy!

  • @katrinapineda6873
    @katrinapineda6873 Před 10 měsíci +10

    To me the bags look way too much like drafts of Old Celine.. just more detailed and expensive to make like the pipings vs the raw cut of her Celine cabas. As if she had frustrations over trashed designs at Celine and brought them out for her own brand. But still, the bags don't look 8k expensive 🥶

  • @hanatan9639
    @hanatan9639 Před 10 měsíci +4

    Yes,the quality I’m sure is beautiful, the styles except for the jackets are a bit unusual. Glad Phoebe is back.

  • @margaretbrett4073
    @margaretbrett4073 Před 10 měsíci

    Great video. Interesting collection, the brooch 😂So informative at the end ❤

  • @joanreynolds955
    @joanreynolds955 Před 10 měsíci +2

    Correct me if I’m wrong, but the collection is, for all intents and purposes, only available to fashion insiders. You’re not going to be able to find it your local Saks or Neiman Marcus. Most of it is already sold out online. It’s an interesting marketing strategy. Her elitism leave me cold. There’s my bushel of sour grapes. I assume it will sell like the proverbial hotcakes on secondary outlets like The Real Real and 1st Dibs, and will sell over the original retail price.

  • @serahandstars
    @serahandstars Před 10 měsíci +2

    The dangly bits on the sides of the bags remind me of Rebecca Minkoff mac bags

  • @alexfarrell2054
    @alexfarrell2054 Před 10 měsíci +2

    People are noting the quality and I just feel like we live on different planets? I saw 100% viscose? That 5k mum necklace is gold plated?

    • @hellocatwalkcity
      @hellocatwalkcity  Před 10 měsíci +3

      I know! It’s bananas! 🍌 That necklace had me rolling but I was trying to hold myself together for the video 😂 and I later checked the materials on some of the apparel and am so beyond disappointed.

  • @milad371
    @milad371 Před 10 měsíci +1

    i was looking at the celine box bag for a while now and interestingly it is no longer available in the celine US website when i checked yesterday

    • @hellocatwalkcity
      @hellocatwalkcity  Před 10 měsíci

      Correct, they have discontinued and only some boutiques are carrying the leftover inventory. They’re phasing out all of Phoebe’s old designs. I made a video about this months ago giving everyone a heads up. Hopefully you can find the bag in one of the boutiques before they sell out.

    • @milad371
      @milad371 Před 10 měsíci

      thank you Hannah. I continue to keep you in my prayers, it feels like you are a friend in real life just by following you on youtube, hope you feel better soon@@hellocatwalkcity

  • @bf441
    @bf441 Před 10 měsíci +1

    I love the collection but to each his/her own.

  • @harboraz
    @harboraz Před 10 měsíci +2

    Sadly, nothing spoke to me...especially at those price points 😔

  • @bammbooozledd
    @bammbooozledd Před 10 měsíci +5

    Yea I’m disappointed by the debut. I don’t know if there’s anything I would buy especially at this price point

  • @alex0438
    @alex0438 Před 10 měsíci +3

    After waiting a lot my expectations got too high...at the end I got disappointed... Reminds me Jil Sander fall 2022, a bit of Bottega, The Row and Proenza Shoulder. Many designers are doing the same she did when she was the director of Cèline, I really expected to see Phoebe's personal touch, but with a new ingredient, sorry but too predictable for me, and the prices...Unless she offered more products and she had a flagship store with good personalized service (such as the huge brands do) I'd consider spend that money in her brand, specially because I have to see the product in person before paying big prices. I'm from Mexico and designers here are doing a very interesting job in terms of well fashion design with high standards and so cool, so I'd support them.

  • @jeanneobbard
    @jeanneobbard Před 10 měsíci

    The second necklace with the trombone links is meant to look like a Victorian watch chain; it's a style that's been in fashion for a bit, from Foundrae and also less overpriced brands. I wouldn't say it's super innovative but it does look of a piece with her style.

  • @YosheaLux
    @YosheaLux Před 10 měsíci

    I don’t have any Celine pieces. I actually love her bags.

  • @joannathesinger770
    @joannathesinger770 Před 10 měsíci

    I have to agree...there's nothing in the collection that makes me want to buy...but an initial collection doesn't mean that her permanent direction won't evolve from this OR that her previous contracts with Celine prevent her from showing similar lines and pieces from the collections she did while there...and my instinct tells me that it's probably the latter. We will have to wait for time to tell and watch her evolution.
    Ha! The platypus shoes!!! I have a l-o-n-g narrow foot, so I can't envision them looking good in that sort of footwear. I suppose if you have a wide ball of foot, it could be flattering...but that's not me. However...the leather looked sumptuous...so I would try them on in-store...provided they even came in my size!!!
    My 2nd great-grandfather showed up on the census in the 1860's (I believe) as a 24 year old shoemaker...which no doubt where I get my love for fine leather articles AND my distinct style when it comes to footwear in particular.
    Further back on that same line...before the family immigrated from Bavaria before the Revolutionary War...we had coppersmiths and silversmiths...and I make my own jewelry out of copper and silver...BEFORE I even knew that was in my particular heritage...so I never stock too much in jewelry lines. I prefer to custom-make my own so that it's proportioned to me.

  • @politesmile7812
    @politesmile7812 Před 10 měsíci

    The red letters in her title card reminds me of Stranger Things

  • @shxna
    @shxna Před 10 měsíci

    The boots at 7:27 look like shoes that Victorian ladies wear. It’s cute.

  • @angeliccrossstitch878
    @angeliccrossstitch878 Před 10 měsíci +4

    I was disappointed. It won't be easy for Phoebe to regain her previous success. Lots of brands are doing similar style now. But she has a lot of credibility)

    • @hellocatwalkcity
      @hellocatwalkcity  Před 10 měsíci +1

      Absolutely, she’s a living legend but as you say, there are now so many more competitors who do minimalist aesthetics. We’ll have to see how she stays ahead of the curve!

  • @Icepink.cream.
    @Icepink.cream. Před 10 měsíci +2

    I’m guessing she wanted her debut collection to be completely distanced from Celine, style wise.
    ☺️ I mean, it’s a win for her to have been able to launch it.

    • @LadyShanghai-wj1kh
      @LadyShanghai-wj1kh Před 10 měsíci +3

      I hoped it would of, but this collection looks like Celine. I hope she’s not a one trick pony.

    • @hellocatwalkcity
      @hellocatwalkcity  Před 10 měsíci +4

      To me, it felt like she straddled between old Celine and something very odd and unexpected. It felt like two people had created this collection and put it together. I’m hoping she will develop a new signature look as she evolves.

    • @Icepink.cream.
      @Icepink.cream. Před 10 měsíci

      @@hellocatwalkcity yes that makes sense! The anemone looking accessory had me giggling as with the leggings.

  • @ChatsWithChris
    @ChatsWithChris Před 10 měsíci +2

    As a black person I cannot with this designer.

  • @TheJalebe73
    @TheJalebe73 Před 10 měsíci +5

    Definitely disappointed after all the hype.

  • @kdgeckoknits274
    @kdgeckoknits274 Před 10 měsíci

    Agree with many other comments: the designs are somewhat architecturally interesting, sort of, but the average person could hardly wear many of these designs in regular daily life.

  • @constitutionalcarrot3720
    @constitutionalcarrot3720 Před 10 měsíci

    I picked up the Peak Sunglasses! So excited to get them even if they don’t suit me, just to say I got something from her premiere collection.

  • @1vyy
    @1vyy Před 10 měsíci +5

    Some of the jackets and shoes looks good but not good enough for me to spend any money on. A little disappointed on the bags.

    • @hellocatwalkcity
      @hellocatwalkcity  Před 10 měsíci +6

      The bags made me yawn 🥱 except when I saw the prices and then I laughed! 😂

  • @AnUrbanGypsy
    @AnUrbanGypsy Před 10 měsíci

    Loved the sweaters and coats but I live in a place that doesn’t need a coat very often so it wouldn’t get used enough to warrant buying, though those prices were 😨. The fringed skirt with the slits certainly didn’t call my name and I found the fringed pieces rather odd. The Gig bag reminded me of the trio immediately and that tacky Mum necklace reminded me of a Family Guy episode where Stewie keeps repeating, “Mum?!” until he gets Mum’s attention and she loses it; my children send that clip to me whenever they need me 😂. 7/10 for PP”s 1st effort.

  • @patriciaquintela899
    @patriciaquintela899 Před 10 měsíci

    For me, some of the pieces would deserve a 2nd look if the prices would be a tiny bit more reachable. Overall there was nothing that made me crazy. Maybe next one.

  • @ShweMyaukMyauk
    @ShweMyaukMyauk Před 10 měsíci

    I think people have no idea what Phoebe does....she plays with graphics and textures too. These are just editorial styling.

  • @burgersuperking
    @burgersuperking Před 10 měsíci +1

    Are you serious about the landfill?

  • @cecigmz
    @cecigmz Před 10 měsíci

    Yeah, nothing jumps out at me.

  • @AnnettaDarandri
    @AnnettaDarandri Před 10 měsíci

    I saw somebody said they looked like overpriced Massimo Dutti. Another The Row, but overpriced. I have to agree :(
    I own a Celine Belt Bag and would be happy with that for now.

  • @kellyfentonmn5783
    @kellyfentonmn5783 Před 10 měsíci

    I agree! Was not enthusiastic after viewing the line. I also thought things were way overpriced.

  • @charimar19
    @charimar19 Před 10 měsíci +2

    I loved her at Celine. But I was also not impressed with any of these pieces. If she’s going for timeless, then it’s not in the shoes because those shoes are awful. Really just terrible 🤦🏻‍♀️. The shoes would be great if you’re wearing a costume.

  • @juliel4096
    @juliel4096 Před 10 měsíci

    The booties are cute, but other than that it’s different.

  • @IrinaVanRonkel
    @IrinaVanRonkel Před 10 měsíci

    New the row

  • @R_DLF
    @R_DLF Před 10 měsíci +1

    The clothes seems minimalist aesthetic but non wearable.

  • @captainhml3868
    @captainhml3868 Před 10 měsíci

    I really like that square leather pendant and that hinge ring. But that brooch looks like a sea anemone. 😅😂

    • @hellocatwalkcity
      @hellocatwalkcity  Před 10 měsíci

      Yes! That’s what I was thinking of! An anemone! 🤣

    • @susanma4899
      @susanma4899 Před 10 měsíci +1

      I like the anemone, but I'm not sure where I'd wear it. And I could craft it very easily myself.

  • @LadyShanghai-wj1kh
    @LadyShanghai-wj1kh Před 10 měsíci +2

    The items are very reminiscent of her time at Celine. There are a lot of details, such as the gold metals & trio bags, etc… which she tied this to, but that was a mistake. This collection looks like what she would have sketched back in the day before she quit. She dusted off her sketches & put them in rotation. It feels lazy. Sorry Phoebe.

    • @hellocatwalkcity
      @hellocatwalkcity  Před 10 měsíci +1

      I have to admit, I felt this way too. It’s as if she was caught in a time trap and the collection didn’t feel fresh and different. I’m a huge fan of Celine and minimalist aesthetics but something felt like she created these 3 years ago and just waited until now to release them to the public. 😬

  • @sally3570
    @sally3570 Před 10 měsíci +1

    I’m actually pretty disappointed. I hoped she would have stayed true to minimalistic high quality design. Good clean lines. Well Taylored etc. Those crazy zippy pants are AWFUL!

  • @wb-lr9ig
    @wb-lr9ig Před 10 měsíci +3

    Buying pp is buying into the woman and her career, not just a look. Cos, h &m even banana republic are contemporary brands mimicking a minimalist vision catalyzed in the pp era at Celine and do it well. The new collection is going to be especially for wealthy women, but not working women . Working women don’t wear clothing with their tush out there and all the deconstructied garments , zippers and studs. Lol plus, I don’t love seeing middle age models without clothes. Modeling is for the young even when they are selling clothes designed for older women. I like what p-p represents, and I’m sure her collection will gain cult status, but only in a certain arena. Good luck pp!

    • @hellocatwalkcity
      @hellocatwalkcity  Před 10 měsíci

      Agree. I think her collection will sell out, simply bc of who she is and what she represents to women. It’ll be interesting to see how she evolves through her future collections.

  • @vl5562
    @vl5562 Před 10 měsíci

    Underwhelmed, the shoes seemed very uncomfortable in the toes area are just so flat which would likely injured those toes nails.

  • @christine_songbird7226
    @christine_songbird7226 Před 7 měsíci

    I agree - was underwhelmed and actually didn’t like the aesthetic of some items while others were just boring to me. And especially at the VERY HIGH price point.
    Hoping for better in her next effort but I’m sure the price point will remain.

    • @hellocatwalkcity
      @hellocatwalkcity  Před 7 měsíci

      Yes and for me, the spell around Phoebe has been broken. Magic is gone.

  • @tereclemmer7923
    @tereclemmer7923 Před 10 měsíci

    I'm not sure I see much practical use for most items you showed. The bags are OK but not a must-have. Thanks for the heads up.

  • @kham6006
    @kham6006 Před 10 měsíci

    Liked her tote bag -8300-nope

  • @teadivamuse
    @teadivamuse Před 10 měsíci +1

    Agree. Ugh!

    • @hellocatwalkcity
      @hellocatwalkcity  Před 10 měsíci

      Ugh ugh ugh

    • @teadivamuse
      @teadivamuse Před 10 měsíci

      @@hellocatwalkcity For what job are we supposed to be able to wear these? Escort service? Very disappointing.

  • @Gemini302001
    @Gemini302001 Před 10 měsíci +1

    The collection looks beautiful, but it’s not for me.

  • @kimvadas2237
    @kimvadas2237 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Utterly disappointed. 😠
    I feel like this collection was designed by someone fresh out of design school - except for the blazers.

  • @cschof4351
    @cschof4351 Před 10 měsíci +1

    It is horrific , especially those fluffy pants .

    • @hellocatwalkcity
      @hellocatwalkcity  Před 10 měsíci

      I couldn’t bear to talk about the fluffy pants. Just decided to be nice and keep it to myself. 😂

  • @k700i
    @k700i Před 10 měsíci

    I feel like it’s not only Phoebe who’s doing this sort of recession tattered up style, it’s also reminiscent of some pieces from Daniel Lee’s Burberry, not the biggest fan of it, but I guess there’s a clearly a market for it 🥲

  • @Momoko4ever1
    @Momoko4ever1 Před 10 měsíci +1

    I think we all feel the same lol overpriced and underwhelmed

    • @hellocatwalkcity
      @hellocatwalkcity  Před 10 měsíci

      Agree! But then who’s buying and making these items sell out? 😆

  • @leena9586
    @leena9586 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Sorry but to me it is either too simple or simply ugly.. to my eyes.

  • @neebieslittleluxuries
    @neebieslittleluxuries Před 10 měsíci +1

    Hmmm I’m disappointed.

  • @trishnguyen8098
    @trishnguyen8098 Před 10 měsíci

    The designs felt flat, nothing stand out from her bag collection

  • @Nickysmom
    @Nickysmom Před 10 měsíci

    The quantities made must have been very limited, that’s why the “sold out” status. Wouldn’t buy a single thing from this.

  • @blt565
    @blt565 Před 10 měsíci +1

    While I appreciate the designs and lines, they are not for my body type and style. I can’t pull off the buttock crack look 😂

  • @lisamp9583
    @lisamp9583 Před 9 měsíci

    You have ZERO IDEA what you talking about -- but it’s ok because you don’t sound like someone who understands her style / elegant and vision anyway … bless you

  • @sephmanatac8569
    @sephmanatac8569 Před 9 měsíci

    O i say the RACIST is back! 🤪🤣

  • @Divinenubian
    @Divinenubian Před 10 měsíci +1

    Hmm.i like the brand but recently saw an old interview where she made a few racist remarks. Meanwhile, I still want a vintage box bag. Racism isn't something that bothers me that much. I was surprised she said those things, but maybe she was having a bad day 😅

    • @hellocatwalkcity
      @hellocatwalkcity  Před 10 měsíci +1

      You crack me up! 😂 Well, I’d love to see that interview bc I wasn’t aware. That’s definitely not cool.

    • @Divinenubian
      @Divinenubian Před 10 měsíci

      @@hellocatwalkcity I'll send it on your Instagram

  • @sharoi33
    @sharoi33 Před 10 měsíci

    meh...

  • @Acct846
    @Acct846 Před 10 měsíci

    None of her design keeps its value

  • @CleanChic
    @CleanChic Před 10 měsíci

    I was suprised ! Even the website looks so amateur. I think like a writer out of idea and the publisher pushed her : CHOP CHOP! TOO LONG. IT’S ABT TIME TO LAUNCH. A no for me. Meh 🫤