I mean I’d rather it stay like this Instead of having Luffy becoming stronger so he can win random debates I’d rather Oda continue writing a good story
@randomguy6909 the funniest is Oda clearly doesn’t care at all of that whole powerscaling thing, the Gear 5 isn’t meant to be a broken form to stomp other characters but just another way to goof around. The fandom is the one who went over a tantrum onto that form 😭
@@StarofmisfortuneIt’s sadder but still lives up to what the rumors say. Goku meatriders that ride him to no bounds(get it? Since most of them think that Xeno and CC Goku and even main Goku is boundless)
@@bennogb5069bro which drugs are you on please tell I also want to have some. 1. Saber can't cute space time. And here are people who can do it so just take rest see doctor. She is strong but she can't beat something that can change her reality into null. Or use akashik record to copy all Akasha power for himself.
I dont know who two of those characters are fully but the very *moment* i saw the two besides rimuru i was like “yep those are probably the strongest ones here*
To those who don't know who void shiki is she's basically the root of Akasha. To explain Akasha would be like if a character in a verse can destroy reality then akasha is the celestial computer running said reality as a simulation. Akasha is basically every timeline, reality, multiverse, concept and character to exist in the Nasuverse all at once and then some given a will of its own. If Goku zeno is a character then Akasha is he book series hes in irl and Void shiki would be the reader. that's how busted Void shiki lol.
Not really powerful when you consider the root is just the origin of the multiverse it just as strong as the verse which at maximum which doesn't even have infinite timeline lol
However, Void Shiki has no feats placing her on that level. The only thing placing her even remotely close to that level is that one time she hyped herself up. But everything else we know about her and other Root-connected people places her far below that. Manaka is another Root-connected individual and she's far below that, she's shown her limits too. Statements by the author mention she'd barely be able to handle a defensive battle against a Servant. And in every other appearance she's made besides the initial one where she's hyping herself up, she's shown power far, far below that.
@@abbadon9693 she doesn't really need to have feats. Considering we already know how fast and durable all other versions of her. Shiki ryogi is just as fast or faster than a servant and considering how all of the Shiki's base powers work you'd have to be straight up unkilleable/have true immortality to even start to tank it lol. Even Takatou Yogiri has that same power and he's an eldritch god of death itself lol. That's how powerful those death lines are and all anyone who can interact with them needs is just a speed boost. Fyi Shiki can not just see those lines on people but pretty much everything as long as it exists and can sever them using pretty much anything........and that's just the living human version of her.
@@abbadon9693 Manaka is connected to the Root, Void Shiki is the true interpretation of the Root. There’s a massive difference lol. Also no lol, Nasu literally mentioned that she can overload the goddamn moon cell automaton within a day, you know the thing that can casually spawn entire multiverses?
My picks Void Shiki: I think the video explained it pretty well. Sinbad: Hey fk yo story. Artoria: Dre is right on why not to pick Saber. But she's my favorite character ever... so
Literally, as soon as I saw Void Shiki on this list, I knew it was GG for the other characters there. If forced to choose two others, though, I'd go with Rimuru and Sinbad.
Whoever put Saber and Void Shiki in the same list hates Saber 😂 Redundant indeed! Void Shiki could solo all the others by blinking, you need her, the rest is inconsequential so I’ll choose Goku and Saber just cuz I like em’ both, Void can blink the rest away
Void Shiki has no feats. She has one scene where she hypes herself up, and then the rest of the entire franchise showing that she's nowhere near that level. We've seen the limits of Root connected people via Manaka, we have author statements that Void Shiki could barely handle a defensive battle against a Servant, we have every other time she's made an appearance and hasn't shown anywhere near that level of power. Believing her statements of "I could rewrite the whole universe" and "I am the Root" is like taking a statement from Gilgamesh saying "I'm unbeatable" or "I am the rules" and believing it wholeheartedly.
@@abbadon9693 Except Void Shiki is literally the Root. She's not "connected" to the Root, she is it. Every narrative about her has never disagreed with the fact that she is Root. There are no ifs ands or buts about it. Anything that any being in Nasuverse is capable of, she can replicate perfectly to the same degree and easily to an even higher degree as she is above everything. Manaka is just an infinitely small fraction of an infinitely small fraction that is Root. She's not even on the same level as a cell is to a human body. Also if you want to use author statements then Arcueid should be the absolute strongest in Nasuverse, because that's what Nasu said, even though she is the weakest of the TYPEs (at the moment) and is still weaker than Prime Kischur. As things stand now we only have statements from the games and every statement says that Shiki is Root and Root is basically omnipotent, one author statement (if that ever even happened) isn't really enough to change like 20 years of narrative on a whim. Especially when Shiki scales above Tohno who stomped Arcueid already. Nasu can write the story but let's leave him out of scaling as he can't even back up his own statements.
@@DeathTheManiac Every statement? From what I can recall, there's only her own statements regarding her being the Root, and there actually are things pointing to that being wrong. For instance, do you know why in the games it's oftentimes called something like [] and not the Root? It's because assigning it the name of "Root" gives it attributes it does not have, and as such lowers its existence. Becoming a whole human and personality gives it a whole lot more additional aspects than simply giving it a name, making it unreasonable for Void Shiki to be considered []. Also, you know, if she were the Root itself, then she wouldn't have wants, desires, or dislikes. But in FGO it's mentioned that she likes Ritsuka, dislikes Ice Cream, and that she wanted to fight MHX after MHX ran away. But she wasn't able to just yoink MHX back via Root powers. Think about her statement of "in a way, I am connected to the Root, and in a way, I am the Root itself" like this. In a way, I am connected to the universe, I interact with it constantly, I affect it, it affects me. And in a way, I am the universe itself, as I am a part of the universe, and as such pointing at me and saying "that is the universe" is akin to pointing at the ground and saying "that is the Earth". But that doesn't not mean I am capable of exerting power on a universal scale. As to what you said about the Author statement on the three strongest non-servant beings in the Nasuverse. One, Prime Zelretch isn't a thing anymore. Two, even if there are other characters that you think should have been on the list, it still shows that in the authors view of mind at the time he considered Void Shiki to be weaker than Arcuied, and he probably just forgot about the other TYPES, or didn't consider them to be part of the Nasuverse yet due to their minimal appearances. But it at the very least works as supporting evidence, along with the mention of how Void Shiki would "maybe be able to fight a defensive battle against a Servant with an extremely average Noble Phantasm", which she should be able to do a whole lot more than that if she had power even close to what she said she could do, or that of the Root itself. And yes, I'll admit that Nasu's statements during interviews aren't exactly the most reliable source of information at all times, even though in this case you ignored the context of Arcueid having been surprise attacked by Shiki Tohno, and all of the other times she's fought him he kind of got wrecked. But the authors' statements, especially when there are multiple of them, at the very least work as supporting evidence to show that Void Shiki isn't as powerful as [], nor is she close to the power she claimed. But it's not like I'm only using his quotes, I'm also using other things from the series to support that. From what I can recall, you're the one who's using the quotes of a singular character to back up your argument, and it's a heavily biased one at that. Even if I did just have Nasu's statements, and none of the other evidence, it'd still be the literal authors' words against a character in his story, in a series relatively notorious for characters giving exposition that is incorrect in some way. And do you have a cite, or argument, for why Manaka's connection to the Root is oh so much weaker than Void Shiki's?
It honestly depends on which xeno Goku we are using if were using that anime version then rimuru, sinbad And void shiki But if were talking about arcade xeno goku that he can solo this list My list is 1.Arcade xeno goku 2.void shiki 3.sinbad Xeno goku's hax mainly consists of Acausality Type 4 which made him resist majority of fate/causality manipulation. Via key sword was able to affect mechikabura who absorbed all of time and was impossible to kill as he fused with time itself. Regeneration negation(high godly type history) Via time power which was able to affect infinite zamasu regeneration who was capable of regenerating from zeno existence erasure which is potent enough to erase timelines Dimensional domain passively reduces stamina it also works on people with infinite stamina like androids and people who can gain stamina from other external sources Immortality negation (type 1,2,3 and 8,) Xeno goku via key sword has layered power nullification as he was easily able to nullify time power and dark shenron wish on mechikabura he can even nullify fate hax via time power Time Power which xeno goku is able to use governs Time and the timestream itself, allowing for the total control of history which in turn controls the very flow of events (causality) across all past, present and future. Its power can manipulate events to change the outcome of history and undo/reset any alteration in the timeline, or revert everything back to their initial states. Time Power is also stated to control and manipulate fate itself, its power being described to be able to "play with the fate of mortals and demons as if they were pawns in a board game". The power can affect[ Demons, The Demon Realm, and beings like Arale Norimaki, Gatchan Conceptual existence erasure and NEP erasure Xeno goku using Time Power can create, sustain, and also erase Time, which in turn erases history and physical reality itself. Stated to be capable of erasing everything, removing all of existence & histories, including the non-existent history and the World of Void,a realm of eternal nothingness devoid of time and space within each history, Demons & the Demon Realm which are completely disconnected from time and have a non-existent history, the Ziku World - a space-time made of pure WiFi Network Information, and even abstract beings such as Infinite Zamasu (Game) who became the very will/thoughts of justice and merged with the fabric of the universe. Time Energy, which is the basis of Time Power, is an all-encompassing energy that creates, composes and sustains time, thus the energy itself is also capable of destroying everything across time, erasing all of existence, the entire multiverse from history. Time Power's erasure is one of, if not the strongest erasure power in the verse, as it is capable of erasing the entire multiverse, all histories and everything they contain, including beings like Dr. Mashirito, Arale Norimaki, Gatchan whom resisted narrative erasure and beings who resist Power of Destruction such as Gods of Destruction, Frieza, etc..... Information manipulation(type 2). Time Power is capable of controlling and erasing all histories/space-times/timelines and the entire multiverse, which includes the Ziku World[58] - a space-time comprised of pure WiFi Network Information that shaped its boundaries, properties and everything it contains. With Time Power, Mechikabura created his Chaos Ball, a black hole which consumed everything in existence, the entire multiverse and the Crack of Time, which includes the Ziku World as the black hole is stated to have left behind complete nothingness Power nullification and stamina reduction Causality manipulation and fate manipulation Toki toki being affected disrupts time and time being affected hurts toki toki. Toki toki bird is the embodiment of time toki toki resurrects with his eggs which hold all of time.Mant demon gods have hurt toki and can absorb his powers which goku scales to Acausality(type 1 and 4) Can fight in crack of time which is outside Xeno Goku defeated Demingra(Final Form) who was stronger than Base form Demingra who was stated to create history in his base. He also fought a guy named Mira who was beyond time. Him just going Ssj4 could affect time and space. He defeated Camel who was just as strong if not stronger than Demingra. Flight Kamehameha Dragon Fist Ki Blast Spirit Bomb Fusion Dance Instant Transmission Stamina Probability Manipulation Superhuman speed Time Manipulation Acrobatics Bōjutsu Explosive Wave Kiai Spirit Control Kaioken After image Light manipulation Xeno Goku has the ability to control Fate, Probability, Life, Matter, Space, Reality, and even Conceptual Manipulation. The cosmology of the regular dbs universe The afterlife in dragon ball trencends the Mortal universe and is said to be Non corporeal and Metaphysical/abstract plane and in the after life in dragon ball theres no concept of time and goku is able to destroy that same after life and universe and the cosmology of dragon ball is connected to dr slump which trencends concepts of space and time hell other world trencends dimensionality The living world in dragon is infinite in size The living world is basically made up of 4 super galaxies which exists infinitely and As for other world it is Metaphysical and it contains the abstract concepts of space and time structures or character above metaphysics would scale to outerversal And heaven and hell are both Metaphysical heaven and heaven and hell are both infinite in size And otherworld holds and trecends both heaven and hell making it above infinity and outerversal And the the instant transmission realm is out side of space and time same with the world of void and and if Goku or any character from his verse can move through these then they would have immeasurable speed And dragon ball is connected to dr slump which trencends concepts of space and time And during the garlic Jr movie Garlic jr created a hyperspace which was stated in the daizenchu and also yes Garlic jr is canon he mentioned by the narrator and a hyperspace is basically a higher dimension making them 5d and even with a mere power level of 1million in his 2nd form frieza was stated to be able to destroy the universe and namek exploding sent a wave of flames across the galaxy if you rewatch the footage and their are several statments of frieza being universal level and in Daizenshuu 4 you need to be 6d in order to be able to destroy the universe and if you translate it it says An infinite space of light and darkness where the unknown lives and the minute frieza goes into his 3rd from it was stated to be a dimensional level stronger than his 2nd form and when he goes into his final form it was also stated to be a dimensional level stronger and thus very consistent when it comes to statements for villains in dragon ball so with all thar being said frieza would be considered 8d and during the Android saga it was stated that it was pretty much impossible to measure goku's power with mathematics meaing that he is outerversal but since I dont like that kind of scale ima lower him to high complex multiversal and cell was also stated to be able to wipe out the universe multiple times Current Goku: layers into outerversal with a higher level of immeasurable speed Z Goku: Outerversal with immeasurable speed Kid Goku:4d with a lower level of immeasurable speed Mainly cause trencending space-time would make you 4d not 5d Basically kid Goku is 4d mainly cause of dr slump trencending space and time And from what we know dr slump and dragon ball are connected and are in the same verse And also a hakai is conceptual eraser cause it erases you from every timeline it erases your soul, body and presence the only reason why it didn't work on zamasu was cause he was immortal and goku black had a time ring which is capable of countering hakai eraser so basically every other zamasu from every other timeline has pretty much been erased And thats just one universe from dragon ball super there are 11 more that scales to the same level which is the complex cosmology of dragon ball super Which is high outerversal And if xeno goku can beat demigra in his base form and demigra was stated to be able to destroy infinite timelines which are basically infinite versions of the dbs/dbz universe With all this being said base xeno Goku would be considered boundless And hell dbs/dbz goku is capable of move in the instant transmission realm which is outside of space and time and he can also move through the world of void which is stated to exist outside of the universes and it was stated to not have any space and time which would grant dbs/dbz goku immeasurable speed So in conclusion xeno goku quite literally solos everyone in this video And as for xeno goku he would be boundless with immeasurable speed and yes he has stronger hax than rimuru and sinbad
This doesn't scale anyone to boundless. There are literally only outer-high outerversal feats and all that wall of text and he is still a void Shiki victim. She transcends literally all concepts and dimensions. In her true form, she is the root herself, which cannot be affected, changed or splitted in any way. Without the root, nothing can exist.
Even if Void Shiki was gone, Sinbad solos and Rimuru arguably solos with one rewriting reality and one basically eating everything and anything. All three is just overkill
This is the first time I've ever seen and heard of void shiki, but i picked her because for some reason it's always the people who look normal and nice who are broken asf
For all that he mocked Shibai for having no feats, that's literally the same position that Void Shiki is in. She's hyped herself up a bunch and somehow a decent portion of the fandom has believed her, despite her doing basically nothing, and having many things showing that she's not even remotely close to that level.
Well, she had another personality called SHIKI who acted as the male and cheerful personality of normal Shiki Wich is the serious and cold heart versión
Seeing list with dre in the way:ok.. i'll definately be picking saber.... Dre moves Well then i do believe i have reconsidered my options. Yeah rimuru is hideing place while shiki and sinbad do the 'housecleaning'
@@Fresh_TheOne void shiki lacks any feats of her own. Rimuru scales to high complex at max And sinbad doesn't stand a xhance against xeno goku. Don't get me wrong I don't belive in that boundless bs but he definitely beats rimuru and sinbad.
A person with about as many feats as Shibai, maybe less, who once hyped herself up and somehow portions of the fandom still believe her from that one time despite us having knowledge of other Root-connected individuals who show power far below that level, author statements that she'd only be able to handle a defensive battle against a Servant, and every other time she's made an appearance she's shown power far, far below what she hyped herself up as.
Shibai is stated to have created the naruto universe but it already existed so it properly means he recreated the naruto universe so i wouldn't say he's feat less but your right at the end it doesn't matter
*Me seeing Goku, Luffy, Ichigo, Naruto , and Saber in the beginning* "Alright so I know I starting with Saber" *Bro moves out of the way revealing the others* ".......Nevermind, taking my Girl Shiki and the two other prizes in the corner"
It's obviously clear Dre's trying to upset the Dragon Ball fans to get more comments in because xeno goku is higher in dimension than any version of rimuru.
@@DemonicEmperor2023Jump force doesnt even make a difference, bro is DBH scaling all over again. Bro is 6D to 7D at most, as seeing something as fiction just implies higher dimensionality.
They are Fictional characters who sees lower dimensional characters as fiction inside fiction.. These characters are called something like META level characters.. But Xeno Goku isn't a META level character.. He has feats of breaking the 4th wall but that's not what u call a META level feat as both are completely different.. 4th wall breaking scales to nothing..
shibai featless is wild here are some of his abilities Upon reaching his apparent godhood, Shibai's techniques were dubbed "Shinjutsu". His incredible abilities that were achieved without hand seals were said to be able to generate storms with a wave of his hand, as well as calling forth thunder bolts with a roar. He had access to various remarkable abilities, including clairvoyance and automatic reflection of all harm to himself. He could also use the power of Omnipotence to make anything he desired a reality.
@SHADOW_A3H1 ah I see what you mean now. Then doesn't shibai basically debunk the whole universal kaguya and naruto arguments? Not saying that you believe that but a lot of people do argue for uni naruto
Void Shiki has no feats placing her on that level. She literally just hyped herself up one time and has done nothing else, at least nothing worth placing her even on the level of Naruto or Luffy. We have knowledge of other Root-connected individuals with Manaka, we have author statements that she'd barely handle a defensive fight against a Servant, and in every other instance where she's made an appearance she's shown power far, far below what she's stated she could do.
Please do Ragnarok Sung Jin Woo vs all versions of Goku including Xeno and CC Goku. And can you please include some feats? I just wanna know more about them.
Xenoku can summon Arale, I'm sure Arale plot manipulates Rimuru to death. Not sure about Sinbad. And unlike Canon Goku, he doesn't do Goku things and goes straight to the point, so that Keysword is fucking Rimuru up if he gets hit.
@@PyroniumZ I know I think is Dre plan to make dragon ball fans to be angry I'm a dragon ball fan but I know Xeno Goku is enough to beat them even the game version of Xeno goku
@@Supernovaiz The game version is the stronger version of xeno Goku and he does not beat everyone. Void Shiki for sure not, Sinbad is debatable, Rimuru idk I dont keep up with the light novel
Zeno goku is like, beyond dimensionality. There is a real world that sees heroes as a game. One of the game villains was DESTROYING THE REAL WORLD, and Zeno Goku beat him in base.
It should be common sense that "destroying the real world" isn't possible and it is at best a higher dimensional plane of existence than xeno Goku's Normal world, and also he has fodder hax.
Xeno goku has literally went to the real world OUR WORLD even in the editors note in the manga it was debunked that the “real” world isnt in anime its “OUR TRUE PLANE OF EXISTENCE “ xeno goku went to our world and stopped a fictional character from ever being created and the thought and concept of that character never exist or able to exist. Xeno goku solos that list 😂
It should be common sense that any "metafictional" feat doesn't scale anywhere and is in turn entirely useless in a crossverse between characters from different verses, and also, he has fodder hax compared to both tensura and nasuverse, he can't even interact with both rimuru or void shiki cause of their hax let alone "beat" them.
@@MrMoments2rejoice xeno goku stomps he has quiet literally has fought armies that have the same powers/haxs as rimuru they were capable of having any power or ability Imaginable and every counter that was made was already useless they were the concept of strength speed, surpassing limits and wiping out quiet literally “anime” itself it was stated in the manga. Including every single anime/manga character that currently exist and will exist. They have literally beaten bible god in the real world as well 😭
@@haha-vn3xx as expected of dragon ball fans, always disrespecting religion, you wouldn't expect to see "b-b-but he beat bible god!" anywhere else and anything "real world" related isn't impressive nor does it give one advantages and it also doesn't scale anywhere, and "wiping out ever anime/manga character that currently exists and will exist" is wanking to the next level, like I understand that you like him but making sh#t up just to make him win is just on a whole nother level, and with the fodder hax that he has, he isn't beating the top verses In anime any time soon.
@@jaylensteward3461who Goku how is he planetary when a kid Vegeta was destroyed planets with ease just add Naruto isn’t even planetary when he beat someone Hwo destryed halp of a moon
@IAMHIM1213 facts I seen enough of his videos to understand that he's not a scaler just a person saying his opinion. Calling xeno goku garbage when real actual scalers like danco,Chuck,official divine, h3ck even death battle scale him better
Shiki, Sinbad and Yhwach tbh just cuz Yhwach can give me a scrhift like The Vanishing Point, The Visionary or The Antithesis so I can at least have a chance of surviving cuz even tho Shiki defense can be goated asf while fighting all one of em gotta do is just flex their aura with murderous extent and my soul is gone even tho Shiki properly can revive soul existence
@@SHADOW_A3H1It's not close tho since xenoverse/dbh cismology is way bigger than tensura making xeno goku higher in dimensionality which is something people don't factor into verses scaling.
@@Gking121Nah, Sinbad just has waaaay better feats of power than Goku, and that's without taking into account his ability to rewrite the DB verse. As for Rimuru. He ate more than a milion universes😂 there's not a single character in DB that can compete here
Havent watched the short yet just long enough to get the concept of what this is about moment I saw Shiki i was like yeah il take her. No questions asked. After that it was Rimuru and Sinbad cause honestly with shiki there saber is kinda redundant. The only chance in hell il take goku for a fight like this is if its god fusion Goku or Jump force goku
Shiki Sinbad and Saber because she's my number 1 of all time. There's just something about Artoria that I absolutely love so no matter what she's there. Tell me you don't know anything about xeno goku without telling me.
People keep disrespecting Xeno goku because they only know his "anime" version but no one bothers to check out his "game" version. He is deadass OP there.
Void Shiki: Man fk the big 3
It's just big me
Bum
What I’m really like that
Best work was light pack
Nigga prince outlived Mike jack
I feel bad for Luffy. He constantly dies horribly in these matchups due to having a slightly OP transformation.
Only slightly OP in his verse.
I mean I’d rather it stay like this
Instead of having Luffy becoming stronger so he can win random debates I’d rather Oda continue writing a good story
Naruto and ichigo die just as easy let’s not front lol
@@randomguy6909hear hear!
@randomguy6909 the funniest is Oda clearly doesn’t care at all of that whole powerscaling thing, the Gear 5 isn’t meant to be a broken form to stomp other characters but just another way to goof around. The fandom is the one who went over a tantrum onto that form 😭
As SOON I saw void shiki on the list i picked her on ma team
Than your dead xeno goku is negging
@@samuraiblack8840gokutard
@@samuraiblack8840 Oh, I found the roach *squash*
@@samuraiblack8840So this is the legendary "But can he beat Goku?" I've heard so much about.
@@StarofmisfortuneIt’s sadder but still lives up to what the rumors say. Goku meatriders that ride him to no bounds(get it? Since most of them think that Xeno and CC Goku and even main Goku is boundless)
Literally picked the EXACT Same! Void Shiki is a must and I dont really need anything else but still Rimuru and Sinbad are good second choices.
I picked Saber instead of Rimuru, still surviving tho
Saber beats everyone there, besides Shiki.
Shes low to mid-Outerversal, while Shiki is high-Outerversal to Boundless.
@@bennogb5069saber ain't beating sindbad
@@bennogb5069saber doesn’t beat sinbad even tho scaled higher
@@bennogb5069bro which drugs are you on please tell I also want to have some.
1. Saber can't cute space time. And here are people who can do it so just take rest see doctor.
She is strong but she can't beat something that can change her reality into null. Or use akashik record to copy all Akasha power for himself.
I saw Saber first then I picked her, but as soon as your head was out the way I switched IMMEDIATELY to Void Shiki, Rimuru, and Sinbad
I think saber can give a hard fight to rimuru and sinbad and it could go either way…
@@lalitthakur6430 yes, but like he said, Void Shiki, can do everything Saber can and then some.
I dont know who two of those characters are fully but the very *moment* i saw the two besides rimuru i was like “yep those are probably the strongest ones here*
Saber is getting stomped by Sinbad lol@@lalitthakur6430
@@lalitthakur6430Sinbad stomps, rimuru is debatable with the new feats and narratives
To those who don't know who void shiki is she's basically the root of Akasha. To explain Akasha would be like if a character in a verse can destroy reality then akasha is the celestial computer running said reality as a simulation.
Akasha is basically every timeline, reality, multiverse, concept and character to exist in the Nasuverse all at once and then some given a will of its own. If Goku zeno is a character then Akasha is he book series hes in irl and Void shiki would be the reader. that's how busted Void shiki lol.
Not really powerful when you consider the root is just the origin of the multiverse it just as strong as the verse which at maximum which doesn't even have infinite timeline lol
@@timespace2879maybe read through that again;
However, Void Shiki has no feats placing her on that level. The only thing placing her even remotely close to that level is that one time she hyped herself up. But everything else we know about her and other Root-connected people places her far below that. Manaka is another Root-connected individual and she's far below that, she's shown her limits too. Statements by the author mention she'd barely be able to handle a defensive battle against a Servant. And in every other appearance she's made besides the initial one where she's hyping herself up, she's shown power far, far below that.
@@abbadon9693 she doesn't really need to have feats. Considering we already know how fast and durable all other versions of her. Shiki ryogi is just as fast or faster than a servant and considering how all of the Shiki's base powers work you'd have to be straight up unkilleable/have true immortality to even start to tank it lol.
Even Takatou Yogiri has that same power and he's an eldritch god of death itself lol. That's how powerful those death lines are and all anyone who can interact with them needs is just a speed boost. Fyi Shiki can not just see those lines on people but pretty much everything as long as it exists and can sever them using pretty much anything........and that's just the living human version of her.
@@abbadon9693 Manaka is connected to the Root, Void Shiki is the true interpretation of the Root. There’s a massive difference lol. Also no lol, Nasu literally mentioned that she can overload the goddamn moon cell automaton within a day, you know the thing that can casually spawn entire multiverses?
Pick 3 to protect you
Midnightdre: hahahahahahahaha
My picks
Void Shiki: I think the video explained it pretty well.
Sinbad: Hey fk yo story.
Artoria: Dre is right on why not to pick Saber. But she's my favorite character ever... so
Literally, as soon as I saw Void Shiki on this list, I knew it was GG for the other characters there.
If forced to choose two others, though, I'd go with Rimuru and Sinbad.
Whoever put Saber and Void Shiki in the same list hates Saber 😂
Redundant indeed!
Void Shiki could solo all the others by blinking, you need her, the rest is inconsequential so I’ll choose Goku and Saber just cuz I like em’ both, Void can blink the rest away
Void Shiki has no feats. She has one scene where she hypes herself up, and then the rest of the entire franchise showing that she's nowhere near that level. We've seen the limits of Root connected people via Manaka, we have author statements that Void Shiki could barely handle a defensive battle against a Servant, we have every other time she's made an appearance and hasn't shown anywhere near that level of power.
Believing her statements of "I could rewrite the whole universe" and "I am the Root" is like taking a statement from Gilgamesh saying "I'm unbeatable" or "I am the rules" and believing it wholeheartedly.
Nah, my goat Sinbad wins
@@abbadon9693it's not statement its facts
@@abbadon9693 Except Void Shiki is literally the Root. She's not "connected" to the Root, she is it. Every narrative about her has never disagreed with the fact that she is Root. There are no ifs ands or buts about it.
Anything that any being in Nasuverse is capable of, she can replicate perfectly to the same degree and easily to an even higher degree as she is above everything.
Manaka is just an infinitely small fraction of an infinitely small fraction that is Root. She's not even on the same level as a cell is to a human body.
Also if you want to use author statements then Arcueid should be the absolute strongest in Nasuverse, because that's what Nasu said, even though she is the weakest of the TYPEs (at the moment) and is still weaker than Prime Kischur.
As things stand now we only have statements from the games and every statement says that Shiki is Root and Root is basically omnipotent, one author statement (if that ever even happened) isn't really enough to change like 20 years of narrative on a whim.
Especially when Shiki scales above Tohno who stomped Arcueid already. Nasu can write the story but let's leave him out of scaling as he can't even back up his own statements.
@@DeathTheManiac Every statement? From what I can recall, there's only her own statements regarding her being the Root, and there actually are things pointing to that being wrong. For instance, do you know why in the games it's oftentimes called something like [] and not the Root? It's because assigning it the name of "Root" gives it attributes it does not have, and as such lowers its existence. Becoming a whole human and personality gives it a whole lot more additional aspects than simply giving it a name, making it unreasonable for Void Shiki to be considered []. Also, you know, if she were the Root itself, then she wouldn't have wants, desires, or dislikes. But in FGO it's mentioned that she likes Ritsuka, dislikes Ice Cream, and that she wanted to fight MHX after MHX ran away. But she wasn't able to just yoink MHX back via Root powers.
Think about her statement of "in a way, I am connected to the Root, and in a way, I am the Root itself" like this. In a way, I am connected to the universe, I interact with it constantly, I affect it, it affects me. And in a way, I am the universe itself, as I am a part of the universe, and as such pointing at me and saying "that is the universe" is akin to pointing at the ground and saying "that is the Earth". But that doesn't not mean I am capable of exerting power on a universal scale.
As to what you said about the Author statement on the three strongest non-servant beings in the Nasuverse. One, Prime Zelretch isn't a thing anymore. Two, even if there are other characters that you think should have been on the list, it still shows that in the authors view of mind at the time he considered Void Shiki to be weaker than Arcuied, and he probably just forgot about the other TYPES, or didn't consider them to be part of the Nasuverse yet due to their minimal appearances. But it at the very least works as supporting evidence, along with the mention of how Void Shiki would "maybe be able to fight a defensive battle against a Servant with an extremely average Noble Phantasm", which she should be able to do a whole lot more than that if she had power even close to what she said she could do, or that of the Root itself. And yes, I'll admit that Nasu's statements during interviews aren't exactly the most reliable source of information at all times, even though in this case you ignored the context of Arcueid having been surprise attacked by Shiki Tohno, and all of the other times she's fought him he kind of got wrecked. But the authors' statements, especially when there are multiple of them, at the very least work as supporting evidence to show that Void Shiki isn't as powerful as [], nor is she close to the power she claimed. But it's not like I'm only using his quotes, I'm also using other things from the series to support that. From what I can recall, you're the one who's using the quotes of a singular character to back up your argument, and it's a heavily biased one at that. Even if I did just have Nasu's statements, and none of the other evidence, it'd still be the literal authors' words against a character in his story, in a series relatively notorious for characters giving exposition that is incorrect in some way.
And do you have a cite, or argument, for why Manaka's connection to the Root is oh so much weaker than Void Shiki's?
Void shiki,xeno goku and rimuru
I picked void than sinbad and just picked Naruto to hangout with him 😂
Same, either him or Rimuru or Luffy 😂
Bruh what type of match up is this.
They really put void shiki on this list and said "pick 3 to protect you" 😂
This has to be some AI or someone who doesn't watch anime who makes these fights. Like why are the fights so one-sided?
People underestimating characters and putting characters in that are powerful but obscure like Void Shiki can stir up engagement.
It honestly depends on which xeno Goku we are using if were using that anime version then rimuru, sinbad And void shiki
But if were talking about arcade xeno goku that he can solo this list
My list is
1.Arcade xeno goku
2.void shiki
3.sinbad
Xeno goku's hax mainly consists of
Acausality Type 4 which made him resist majority of fate/causality manipulation.
Via key sword was able to affect mechikabura who absorbed all of time and was impossible to kill as he fused with time itself.
Regeneration negation(high godly type history)
Via time power which was able to affect infinite zamasu regeneration who was capable of regenerating from zeno existence erasure which is potent enough to erase timelines
Dimensional domain passively reduces stamina it also works on people with infinite stamina like androids and people who can gain stamina from other external sources
Immortality negation (type 1,2,3 and 8,)
Xeno goku via key sword has layered power nullification as he was easily able to nullify time power and dark shenron wish on mechikabura he can even nullify fate hax via time power
Time Power which xeno goku is able to use governs Time and the timestream itself, allowing for the total control of history which in turn controls the very flow of events (causality) across all past, present and future. Its power can manipulate events to change the outcome of history and undo/reset any alteration in the timeline, or revert everything back to their initial states. Time Power is also stated to control and manipulate fate itself, its power being described to be able to "play with the fate of mortals and demons as if they were pawns in a board game". The power can affect[ Demons, The Demon Realm, and beings like Arale Norimaki, Gatchan
Conceptual existence erasure and NEP erasure
Xeno goku using Time Power can create, sustain, and also erase Time, which in turn erases history and physical reality itself. Stated to be capable of erasing everything, removing all of existence & histories, including the non-existent history and the World of Void,a realm of eternal nothingness devoid of time and space within each history, Demons & the Demon Realm which are completely disconnected from time and have a non-existent history, the Ziku World - a space-time made of pure WiFi Network Information, and even abstract beings such as Infinite Zamasu (Game) who became the very will/thoughts of justice and merged with the fabric of the universe. Time Energy, which is the basis of Time Power, is an all-encompassing energy that creates, composes and sustains time, thus the energy itself is also capable of destroying everything across time, erasing all of existence, the entire multiverse from history. Time Power's erasure is one of, if not the strongest erasure power in the verse, as it is capable of erasing the entire multiverse, all histories and everything they contain, including beings like Dr. Mashirito, Arale Norimaki, Gatchan whom resisted narrative erasure and beings who resist Power of Destruction such as Gods of Destruction, Frieza, etc.....
Information manipulation(type 2).
Time Power is capable of controlling and erasing all histories/space-times/timelines and the entire multiverse, which includes the Ziku World[58] - a space-time comprised of pure WiFi Network Information that shaped its boundaries, properties and everything it contains. With Time Power, Mechikabura created his Chaos Ball, a black hole which consumed everything in existence, the entire multiverse and the Crack of Time, which includes the Ziku World as the black hole is stated to have left behind complete nothingness
Power nullification and stamina reduction
Causality manipulation and fate manipulation
Toki toki being affected disrupts time and time being affected hurts toki toki. Toki toki bird is the embodiment of time toki toki resurrects with his eggs which hold all of time.Mant demon gods have hurt toki and can absorb his powers which goku scales to
Acausality(type 1 and 4)
Can fight in crack of time which is outside
Xeno Goku defeated Demingra(Final Form) who was stronger than Base form Demingra who was stated to create history in his base. He also fought a guy named Mira who was beyond time. Him just going Ssj4 could affect time and space. He defeated Camel who was just as strong if not stronger than Demingra.
Flight
Kamehameha
Dragon Fist
Ki Blast
Spirit Bomb
Fusion Dance
Instant Transmission
Stamina
Probability Manipulation
Superhuman speed
Time Manipulation
Acrobatics
Bōjutsu
Explosive Wave
Kiai
Spirit Control
Kaioken
After image
Light manipulation
Xeno Goku has the ability to control Fate, Probability, Life, Matter, Space, Reality, and even Conceptual Manipulation.
The cosmology of the regular dbs universe
The afterlife in dragon ball trencends the Mortal universe and is said to be Non corporeal and Metaphysical/abstract plane and in the after life in dragon ball theres no concept of time and goku is able to destroy that same after life and universe and the cosmology of dragon ball is connected to dr slump which trencends concepts of space and time hell other world trencends dimensionality The living world in dragon is infinite in size The living world is basically made up of 4 super galaxies which exists infinitely and
As for other world it is Metaphysical and it contains the abstract concepts of space and time structures or character above metaphysics would scale to outerversal
And heaven and hell are both Metaphysical heaven and heaven and hell are both infinite in size
And otherworld holds and trecends both heaven and hell making it above infinity and outerversal
And the the instant transmission realm is out side of space and time same with the world of void and and if Goku or any character from his verse can move through these then they would have immeasurable speed And dragon ball is connected to dr slump which trencends concepts of space and time And during the garlic Jr movie Garlic jr created a hyperspace which was stated in the daizenchu and also yes Garlic jr is canon he mentioned by the narrator and a hyperspace is basically a higher dimension making them 5d and even with a mere power level of 1million in his 2nd form frieza was stated to be able to destroy the universe and namek exploding sent a wave of flames across the galaxy if you rewatch the footage and their are several statments of frieza being universal level and in Daizenshuu 4 you need to be 6d in order to be able to destroy the universe and if you translate it it says An infinite space of light and darkness where the unknown lives and the minute frieza goes into his 3rd from it was stated to be a dimensional level stronger than his 2nd form and when he goes into his final form it was also stated to be a dimensional level stronger and thus very consistent when it comes to statements for villains in dragon ball so with all thar being said frieza would be considered 8d and during the Android saga it was stated that it was pretty much impossible to measure goku's power with mathematics meaing that he is outerversal but since I dont like that kind of scale ima lower him to high complex multiversal and cell was also stated to be able to wipe out the universe multiple times
Current Goku: layers into outerversal with a higher level of immeasurable speed
Z Goku: Outerversal with immeasurable speed
Kid Goku:4d with a lower level of immeasurable speed
Mainly cause trencending space-time would make you 4d not 5d
Basically kid Goku is 4d mainly cause of dr slump trencending space and time
And from what we know dr slump and dragon ball are connected and are in the same verse
And also a hakai is conceptual eraser cause it erases you from every timeline it erases your soul, body and presence the only reason why it didn't work on zamasu was cause he was immortal and goku black had a time ring which is capable of countering hakai eraser so basically every other zamasu from every other timeline has pretty much been erased
And thats just one universe from dragon ball super there are 11 more that scales to the same level which is the complex cosmology of dragon ball super
Which is high outerversal
And if xeno goku can beat demigra in his base form and demigra was stated to be able to destroy infinite timelines which are basically infinite versions of the dbs/dbz universe
With all this being said base xeno Goku would be considered boundless
And hell dbs/dbz goku is capable of move in the instant transmission realm which is outside of space and time and he can also move through the world of void which is stated to exist outside of the universes and it was stated to not have any space and time which would grant dbs/dbz goku immeasurable speed
So in conclusion xeno goku quite literally solos everyone in this video
And as for xeno goku he would be boundless with immeasurable speed and yes he has stronger hax than rimuru and sinbad
This doesn't scale anyone to boundless. There are literally only outer-high outerversal feats and all that wall of text and he is still a void Shiki victim. She transcends literally all concepts and dimensions. In her true form, she is the root herself, which cannot be affected, changed or splitted in any way. Without the root, nothing can exist.
Ofc Void is there to protect me
Sinbad to lul me to sleep
And Go on a Date with Saber
Real
"bBbBb-ut dRe, LuFfy hAs TOon fOrCe, aNd PowEr of ImAGiNatiOn, he'S oUtVerSaL" 😂😂😂
Oh his head was in the way at the begining for a reason...
Even if Void Shiki was gone, Sinbad solos and Rimuru arguably solos with one rewriting reality and one basically eating everything and anything. All three is just overkill
Me I said Shiki, Artoria Saber cause she da waifu and Sinbad I say I'll be okay
Baber Supremacy
Look like your a man of culture as well
Baber
This is the first time I've ever seen and heard of void shiki, but i picked her because for some reason it's always the people who look normal and nice who are broken asf
Naruto ichigo and luffy are strong but in this case they aren’t even cheer leaders
Void shiki has the ability to "kill". This include ki, haki, mana, abilities, hacks, techniques and etc. Once killed it is erased and gone for good.
Void Shiki, Rimuru Tenpest and Sinbad
That might just be the funniest way of pronouncing Yhwach I've ever heard, bro asked "You high?"
Im picking saber, void shiki, and rimmue ngtl
Void shiki is basically a giant middle finger to a huge portion of fiction
Even Gilgamesh and saber at their best would die
For all that he mocked Shibai for having no feats, that's literally the same position that Void Shiki is in. She's hyped herself up a bunch and somehow a decent portion of the fandom has believed her, despite her doing basically nothing, and having many things showing that she's not even remotely close to that level.
@@abbadon9693 some people even say that she's stronger than featherine
@@abbadon9693 so she's basically in the same boat as xeno Goku?
@@Sundeath41 Except Xeno Goku has feats. Like if I recall correctly, holding back an attack that was going to destroy all of the timelines.
@@abbadon9693And that scales only at least multiverse level+ max
Zeno goku is WAY underrated here rn.
The Fact That He Called Him Garbage Is Enough To Show Me That He Hates Goku😡
I noticed that he only knows about Xeno Goku from anime, and not from the game
Correct xeno Goku in base solos Sinbad and rimuru, I don't know bout void shiki since I haven't seen to much bout her@@SonictheFastestThingAlive348
@@thestoryasianOkay this is cap
@@SonictheFastestThingAlive348He doesn't hate goku, he hates you goku fans overrating him like a kid wanting a candy or smth
Void Shiki alone is enough.
I fr thought Void Shiki was a guy😭😭😭🙏🙏🙏
Well, she had another personality called SHIKI who acted as the male and cheerful personality of normal Shiki Wich is the serious and cold heart versión
Seeing list with dre in the way:ok.. i'll definately be picking saber....
Dre moves
Well then i do believe i have reconsidered my options. Yeah rimuru is hideing place while shiki and sinbad do the 'housecleaning'
Fuck the big 3 its just big me
Void, sinbad, and rimuru should be your obvious choices
Bro covered all the actually strong people with his head
So I chose goku and saber before he even moved and realised how screwed I was
*xeno goku
It's xeno goku you would be fine
@@Gking121💀 you can even take cc goku and you'd still lose against that guys top 3
@@Fresh_TheOne void shiki lacks any feats of her own.
Rimuru scales to high complex at max
And sinbad doesn't stand a xhance against xeno goku.
Don't get me wrong I don't belive in that boundless bs but he definitely beats rimuru and sinbad.
Neat.
I love seeing anime ive never heard/seen before easily solo animes i know of. I guess it is what it is
void shiki and sinbad is overkill,they both be having tea while xeno goku beating the rest
🗿🗿
I chose void shiki,rimuru and saber.
You explained the reason for the first 2 and saber because she is best girl
Void Shiki, Rimuru and Saber to marry afterwards 😜
You get it, it's basically who do you want to save for Shiki.
Bros gonna get freaky😋
No clue who shiki is, but still came up with this exact team.
A person with about as many feats as Shibai, maybe less, who once hyped herself up and somehow portions of the fandom still believe her from that one time despite us having knowledge of other Root-connected individuals who show power far below that level, author statements that she'd only be able to handle a defensive battle against a Servant, and every other time she's made an appearance she's shown power far, far below what she hyped herself up as.
Rimuru, sinbad and void shiki bruh
Mine was void shiki, saber and rimuru 😂
Give me Saber, Void sheiki, and Sinbad.
Shibai is stated to have created the naruto universe but it already existed so it properly means he recreated the naruto universe so i wouldn't say he's feat less but your right at the end it doesn't matter
Void Shiki, Xeno Goku, and Sinbad❤
*Me seeing Goku, Luffy, Ichigo, Naruto , and Saber in the beginning*
"Alright so I know I starting with Saber"
*Bro moves out of the way revealing the others*
".......Nevermind, taking my Girl Shiki and the two other prizes in the corner"
A my man should watch dragonball superheroes again🤣
Green Lantern 🏮 Vs Dr. Spectrum, Quasar
The Flash Vs The Runner 🏃♂️
Wonder 💭 Woman 🧍♀️ Vs Power Princess 👑
Cyborg Vs Cable, Nimrod, Bastion
Xeno goku downplay by this man is crazy 😂😂😂
xeno goku overrated as hell
Use your name shut up because you clearly don't know shit about xeno goku
He and his verse get soloed by shiki
Ik this down play is cray
@@chilled480who is shiki some op anime charater that isn’t strong just has broken hax
Honestly I'd add Sinbad and Rimuru to the team just so I have some people to pass the time with while Void Shiki is handling business 😂
How’s Xeno Goku garbage when he defeated Demigra who can even destroy the real world💀
Because void Rimmiru sin bad and shiki solos xeno goku
Xeno goku isnt garbage he just lowballs him. Saying he doesnt have hax os the biggest sign he doesnt know alot
@@Takaba_comedianmy brother in christ xeno goku has genuin baseline boundless feats. At a lowball xeno goku is boundless, at a lowball
@@Yakonsupremacy so is void shiki
Void shiki got debunked to low uni
Weaker than anime goku
Manga goku can handle this list @@Takaba_comedian
Yeah I always choose Ryougi Shiki as always
Shiki, sinbad, and luffy because i dont want my homie to die 😂
3, hmmm.. easy rimuru, Sinbad and void shiki and I love to see another day.
It's obviously clear Dre's trying to upset the Dragon Ball fans to get more comments in because xeno goku is higher in dimension than any version of rimuru.
Not really cause thats Xeno Goku
Not the arcade version Jump force One
The author of dragon ball heroes said xeno goku from the anime is the same from xenoverse and the card game what you yapping about
@@DemonicEmperor2023Jump force doesnt even make a difference, bro is DBH scaling all over again. Bro is 6D to 7D at most, as seeing something as fiction just implies higher dimensionality.
@@bennogb5069 im going to say something stupid
Then are we also 6d To 7d? Since we see fiction as fiction?
They are Fictional characters who sees lower dimensional characters as fiction inside fiction..
These characters are called something like META level characters..
But Xeno Goku isn't a META level character..
He has feats of breaking the 4th wall but that's not what u call a META level feat as both are completely different..
4th wall breaking scales to nothing..
shibai featless is wild here are some of his abilities Upon reaching his apparent godhood, Shibai's techniques were dubbed "Shinjutsu". His incredible abilities that were achieved without hand seals were said to be able to generate storms with a wave of his hand, as well as calling forth thunder bolts with a roar. He had access to various remarkable abilities, including clairvoyance and automatic reflection of all harm to himself. He could also use the power of Omnipotence to make anything he desired a reality.
if you can debunk Universal Naruto, Shibai is 4D Universal character. If you cant debunk Universal Naruto then Shibai is 5D Multiversal character.
He is strong but not strong enough
@SHADOW_A3H1 brother you need stleast 2 universe or atleast 2 seperate timelines to be multi cosmology.
@@biggestboss7911
That multi is a wank based on Naruto being universal
@SHADOW_A3H1 ah I see what you mean now. Then doesn't shibai basically debunk the whole universal kaguya and naruto arguments? Not saying that you believe that but a lot of people do argue for uni naruto
"Xeno goku is garbage compared to the others two" you dnt need to violate my boy goku lik this 😂
I'm saying the xeno Goku downplay is crazy
@@quintonbrooks7536nah I don't agree. I think people are high balling him
It's hard to find real scalers. Downplaying xeno goku is the last thing I needed to hear
@@quintonbrooks7536
Well that's how dre works but xeno goku is as strong as rimuru with a slight edge due to the keysword having time powers
@@dumguyawesome to some extent
Shiki
Sinbad
Luffy.
I get to chill with the pirate king while the other 2 handle my lightwork
If you listen closely, you can hear the dulcid tones of the Goku fanboys who don’t know any of the other characters screaming.
Void shiki, sinbad and rimuru are the obvious choices
Void Shiki has no feats placing her on that level. She literally just hyped herself up one time and has done nothing else, at least nothing worth placing her even on the level of Naruto or Luffy. We have knowledge of other Root-connected individuals with Manaka, we have author statements that she'd barely handle a defensive fight against a Servant, and in every other instance where she's made an appearance she's shown power far, far below what she's stated she could do.
@@abbadon9693Mald harder
Im taking Xeno Goku, saber and big dawg Sinbad
U gonna die then.
Please do Ragnarok Sung Jin Woo vs all versions of Goku including Xeno and CC Goku. And can you please include some feats? I just wanna know more about them.
Ain’t no way eh said xeno Goku is trash what did he do to u
They should include comic book characters in these instead of the big 3.
Xenoku can summon Arale, I'm sure Arale plot manipulates Rimuru to death. Not sure about Sinbad.
And unlike Canon Goku, he doesn't do Goku things and goes straight to the point, so that Keysword is fucking Rimuru up if he gets hit.
arale doesnt has range to do it bro...
My team
Shiki (obviously)
Sinbad
And luffy (we just finna he vibing)
Really Dre Xeno Goku is garbage
You have got to be kidding me 😑
I mean compared to void shiki yes, the rest was to piss of dragon ball fans
@@PyroniumZ I know I think is Dre plan to make dragon ball fans to be angry I'm a dragon ball fan but I know Xeno Goku is enough to beat them even the game version of Xeno goku
@@Supernovaiz The game version is the stronger version of xeno Goku and he does not beat everyone. Void Shiki for sure not, Sinbad is debatable, Rimuru idk I dont keep up with the light novel
@@PyroniumZ Ok It's your opinion bro we have different opinions 🤷
Cause he’s garbage compared to rimuru, shiki and Sinbad, cope dbtard🤡
I am going with my waifu saber, then void and last Sinbad
Zeno goku is like, beyond dimensionality. There is a real world that sees heroes as a game. One of the game villains was DESTROYING THE REAL WORLD, and Zeno Goku beat him in base.
Fanmade also not canon it's basically just a inspiration for dbz fans to find something to beat their enemies fav anime
@@Slavery_since1800 It's non canon, not fanmade.
It should be common sense that "destroying the real world" isn't possible and it is at best a higher dimensional plane of existence than xeno Goku's Normal world, and also he has fodder hax.
@@MrMoments2rejoice His hax are actually quite good.
@@dremz7102 everything I've seen from him isn't impressive at all already compared to LN rimuru.
Goku
Xeno goku has literally went to the real world OUR WORLD even in the editors note in the manga it was debunked that the “real” world isnt in anime its “OUR TRUE PLANE OF EXISTENCE “ xeno goku went to our world and stopped a fictional character from ever being created and the thought and concept of that character never exist or able to exist. Xeno goku solos that list 😂
It should be common sense that any "metafictional" feat doesn't scale anywhere and is in turn entirely useless in a crossverse between characters from different verses, and also, he has fodder hax compared to both tensura and nasuverse, he can't even interact with both rimuru or void shiki cause of their hax let alone "beat" them.
Who’s said his raw power can put come hax
Can rimaru beat Archie sonic
@@MrMoments2rejoice xeno goku stomps he has quiet literally has fought armies that have the same powers/haxs as rimuru they were capable of having any power or ability Imaginable and every counter that was made was already useless they were the concept of strength speed, surpassing limits and wiping out quiet literally “anime” itself it was stated in the manga. Including every single anime/manga character that currently exist and will exist. They have literally beaten bible god in the real world as well 😭
@@haha-vn3xx as expected of dragon ball fans, always disrespecting religion, you wouldn't expect to see "b-b-but he beat bible god!" anywhere else and anything "real world" related isn't impressive nor does it give one advantages and it also doesn't scale anywhere, and "wiping out ever anime/manga character that currently exists and will exist" is wanking to the next level, like I understand that you like him but making sh#t up just to make him win is just on a whole nother level, and with the fodder hax that he has, he isn't beating the top verses In anime any time soon.
shiki for carrying. yhwach so i don't have to worry about dying cuz i can just get back to life and luffy for vibes
Xeno goku negs
Xeno Goku, negs absolutely nothing, but suicide if he plans on trying to beat shiki or rimuru or Sinbad xd
Zeno Goku is the fifth strongest on the list and gets curb stomped by anyone stronger then him
@@Ms.UmiValk he beat the shit out of g*ymuru and his verse
and struggle against sinbad
for me im going with overkill soo imma pick sinbad saber and shiki :)
Man, when you call xeno goku garbage, better run for the hills. Cause you are about to be dog piled by db fans
I think he massively lowballs xeno goku but he shouldnt be attacked for having a different opinion. I just respect it
@IAMHIM1213 Oh, then you are one the good ones cause I will tell you what I have run into is just mean.
Nah it's the Naruto fans for me they are saying he is multiversal i be what he is planetary at best
@@jaylensteward3461who Goku how is he planetary when a kid Vegeta was destroyed planets with ease just add Naruto isn’t even planetary when he beat someone Hwo destryed halp of a moon
@IAMHIM1213 facts I seen enough of his videos to understand that he's not a scaler just a person saying his opinion. Calling xeno goku garbage when real actual scalers like danco,Chuck,official divine, h3ck even death battle scale him better
Shiki, Sinbad and Yhwach tbh just cuz Yhwach can give me a scrhift like The Vanishing Point, The Visionary or The Antithesis so I can at least have a chance of surviving cuz even tho Shiki defense can be goated asf while fighting all one of em gotta do is just flex their aura with murderous extent and my soul is gone even tho Shiki properly can revive soul existence
rimaru is like a stronger yhwach, but I get that he can't give you powers so that makes sense
Xeno Goku violates Rimuru and it's not evn funny lol
Not violates it's pretty close and xeno wins because of keysword hax
@@SHADOW_A3H1It's not close tho since xenoverse/dbh cismology is way bigger than tensura making xeno goku higher in dimensionality which is something people don't factor into verses scaling.
@@malikmcfarlane6060
Well do you know tensura cosmology??
Moment i saw those 3 i picked them, shiki to kill everyone else, rimuru to talk about anime and manga, sinbad to get drunk 😂
Yep i just need xeno goku
No.
Tbh he solos most of the list. You would be fine
nah Goku gets owned by Rimuru, sinbad, saber and Void Shiki
@@fabtech0771 void shiki is a fair take
Sinbad and rimuru is just wrong in my opinion. Xeno goku would fold them 2
@@Gking121Nah, Sinbad just has waaaay better feats of power than Goku, and that's without taking into account his ability to rewrite the DB verse. As for Rimuru. He ate more than a milion universes😂 there's not a single character in DB that can compete here
Void Shiki,, Sinbad and Rimuru
Incoming db fans crying
Scale anyone here other than xeno goku to hyperversal. I dare you. Let alone baseline boundless
Disagreeing isnt crying its having a different opinion
@@Gking121 Fr
@@Gking121 true, db fans just mad annoying sometimes and can’t stand the fact that goku gets bodied by certain characters
@@12Tvb12h that's a fact
Havent watched the short yet just long enough to get the concept of what this is about moment I saw Shiki i was like yeah il take her. No questions asked. After that it was Rimuru and Sinbad cause honestly with shiki there saber is kinda redundant. The only chance in hell il take goku for a fight like this is if its god fusion Goku or Jump force goku
Bald sensei, im still gonna end up from the recoil of the battle
That is the exact ones I picked.
Ichigo, Ywach, and Rimuru.
Change my mind.
Go on. I'll be patient.
Shiki, Ichigo and sinbad
Cause i love them more than the rest on this list
I’m just picking the coolest ones
i saw the start and i’m like “saber, ichigo- oh shit nvm gimme void shiki”
Shiki + sinbad and get your self a friend to hangout with
Void Shiki, Naruto, and Ichigo.
Shiki Sinbad and Saber because she's my number 1 of all time. There's just something about Artoria that I absolutely love so no matter what she's there.
Tell me you don't know anything about xeno goku without telling me.
People keep disrespecting Xeno goku because they only know his "anime" version but no one bothers to check out his "game" version. He is deadass OP there.
Picked saber, saw shiki, proceeded to ask why ppl hate these characters existing. Obv only answer necessary is the BBV
I still picked Saber anyway because I don't need my girl dyin
Are we talking about physically strong or mentality strong
Void sinbad and luffy to save my boy from the carnage
But but sabers blade can erase concepts from existence
Thats cool and all, but unfortunately they can't beat super 17, because no one can beat him when he's super 17
Ichigo, Sinbad, and Rimuru
The only choice really
Void shiki , sinbad and saber.
Shiki alone will solo all 9 of them with their respective verses.lol