Collecting 101: Cast Iron Cookware! Griswold Wagner History Popularity & Value! Episode 3
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- čas přidán 11. 09. 2024
- Mike breaksdown the history of cast iron cookware while addressing popular brands like Griswold & Wagner. He also touches base on their popularity, value and what to collect.
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Here in Canada it's GSW cast iron that's vintage and numbered. It flies off my booth shelves at $45-65 a pan. I have 6 cast iron pans of various sizes and shapes and 2 dutch ovens in my own kitchen. Absolutely the best cookware.
Nice! Always love to hear what sells around the world
Thanks so much for covering this topic. I have several Wagner and Griswold cast iron pans passed down from my grandparents. I'm looking at them with new eyes. They've lasted longer than any pan I've ever owned. Think I'm going to use and love them more.
That's awesome! Enjoy them! 🙂
We have favorite in my kitchen. Hollow ware highly polished and cooks evenly across the pan. Made in Piqua Ohio. Personally I think it cooks better than Wagner's.
I have been dealing in cast for more than 40 yrs. Have purchased 3 large collections. In Griswold best money pans #2 with fire ring large block , #4 with fire ring and large block, #11,12 13 ,14 and #20 are all the best money. Also if you see a cast iron lid buy it . Lids are hard to find.
Great information! Thanks for sharing!
@@teresaulian9180 it's actually called a heat ring. On the old stoves, you pulled up a disk cover and the skillet fit into the hole where the cover was. This also designated the size of the Pan, so a number 8 skillet fit a size number 8 hole on the stove. The heat ring on the bottom of the Pan helped seal the hole and kept the heat inside the stove.
I have a griswold lbl no2 but no heat ring
@@HoosierCarnivore you do know a #8 from 1 company was not necessarily the same as a #8 from another. Where do you 40 year experts come from?
Excellent! My cast iron is from grandma...1920s vintage Wagner...I use it every day here near Ester, Alaska.
Nice
Ok, a couple corrections, first off 3,5 & 8 we're the most common sizes. It goes like this; a #3 was for a bachlors cornbread, a #5 was for when he got married, again for cornbread, and a # 8 was for when the children started coming! Another point, Lodge goes way back, it started pre 20th century as well then known as blacklock. The next biggest producer started was Birmingham stove and range, often called BSR. at one time there were hundreds of manufacturers, most were either bought up or merged to make other companies. The companies that manufactured stoves made pans and other "hollow ware" to fit their specific stoves, until a universal size strategy was adopted. Almost any company that poured cast iron made a miriad of other irems, from sad irons to toys and farm implements. The variety was immense and varied. Cast iron is fabulous to cook with, I wouldn't have a teflon anything in my house for any reason, cast iron is king.
Thanks for the info James
Now this is a guy that really knows his cast iron to think the guy in this video never mentioned lodge or BSR tells me he’s not very well informed.
Very informative.America has a wonderful heritage of industry.I love cast iron for a fry up(bacon,eggs,tomatoes.)Always fancied cooking over an open fire using a trivet.Wood smoke,wonderful
Cast iron is my favorite thing to cook on as well Helen! Thanks for watching
Open fire camping with cast iron is a marvel. I have a bigger, rough pan I used when camping, then for the dish pan. (Yes, I re-season!). Love them.
My Mom has a cast iron pan that she uses all the time & it was passed down from her Grandma. I'll have to look at the bottom of it, now that I know a little more about them - thanks for the info! Looking forward to Episode 4!
🙂 very cool! Thanks for watching Amber!
i am surprised you never mentioned handles and how to tell if the pan in question is antique/vintage or modern with the curvature and thumb "pad" (modern) ...and even though the griswolds and wagners are the creme de la creme of serious collectors, i have been using a "japan" pan (n - 3) 8 in circumference that also shows a patent number.. been cooking with this pan for the last 30 years. i have always thought that cast iron should be used and not just as wall decor.
I wanted to mention more but I'm trying to keep these videos to around 10 minutes. I might run back cast iron down the line to add much more info I wanted to include.
@@66uniqueantiques 'Cast Iron Part #2' sounds fine with me. Thks for all the useful info!
I agree with you.
I LOVE MY OLD CAST IRON COOKWARE !!!!!
It is the best
I just stumbled on your channel this morning with "5 best sellers for antiques" video that you made a while back. That, in turn, led me to check out your channel. You have a new subscriber from Georgia! As for cast iron cookware, there is so much information that you could run an entire mini- series about it! All American made vintage cast iron, in my opinion, is superior to current cast iron. Why not spend $30 for a vintage pan rather than $30 for a new pan. Yes, Griswold and Wagner are premium brands, but there are many others that are great work horses in the kitchen. BSR (my favorite), Lodge, Favorite, Martin, etc. are just a few of the foundries that come to mind. If I could offer a correction, the size numbers stamped on cookware was in relation to the size eyelets found on wood cook stoves, not the diameter of the cookware.
Thank you for taking the time to educate people on a piece of American history. Looking forward to your next video!
Thanks for checking us out and for the extra information! I really wanted to add more info but didn't want to have a 30min video which I could of easily done since there is so much more to say. Hopefully you enjoy the channel and I always love communicating with everyone so hopefully we will be talking again soon 🙂
I am sure you're you noticed the ghost skillet in the picture of the made in Taiwan skillet. It looks to be a mould they bought from the BSR liquidation based on the type and text on the ghost image. Pretty Cool!
Great information I'm going to be on the lookout for those odd numbered iron skillets. Thanks.
Thanks Dee Dee
Thanks for sharing . Yes I did learn something that I can use . I had to go check . I use a lodge #3 to cook steaks when we are not using the grill .
Can't beat a steak on a cast skillet
Great informative video, I just started in the cast iron collecting and using. Griswold is my favorite to use and is better than anything being produced today. Thank you again
I agree! Thanks for watching Jeff
I’ve used cast iron for 40 years!! Down home cook!!
Absolutely!
Thank You ...
Thanks For Watching
I have some good Griswold and Wagner, but my best pan is a 1910s era single-notch, curved logo #6 Lodge. Not necessarily the most valuable, but it is by far the smoothest and best cooking piece that I own.
It’s not always about value when collecting
I found a cast iron muffin? Tin at a garage sale got it for 3.00 no makers mark but I love the pan once I figured out how to season it
Great Buy!
I’m truly surprised he never mentioned bsr cookware some of the best ever made.
Always plenty out there that fall through the cracks
You are such a rock star putting the 411 into these topics. Research was (and is) SOOOO overwhelming. I’m going to take a minute today to go through the cast iron skillet pile and see what I can throw onto FB Marketplace for cheap!!
Thanks! Good luck selling🙂
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I recently got into cast iron cookware and I really love it. All the teflon pans in the house are gone! I'm currently working on a set of smooth bottom large logo Griswolds. There's so much to cover on this subject, you could probably do 3 or 4 more videos just about collecting cast-iron cookware. You really only scratched the surface.
That's awesome! I know I wanted to go farther with everything but want to keep videos relatively short
Love my cast iron i have 2 frying pans i still use and they are about 50 to 60 years old.
Awesome! Cast iron is the best
🤘🏻💯Id love to have that kind of stove in my house
We come across them quite a bit but they are tough sells unless they are in great shape
I have managed to collect approx 240 vintage pieces, great video, keep them coming
That is awesome, Congrats! Can't beat the quality
Awesome video!! All of the info I was looking for
Appreciate you watching
I’m really learning a lot about cast iron from you. Thank you
Thanks for watching Jennifer
My husband and I are using cast iron to cook our foods in.
Great idea! They are the best
Best castiron in my opinion I favorite pique
If you go to Thrift stores, they charge an arm and a leg, I saw a rusted Lodge, I thought it might be $15 to $20 nope it was $59.99, you can go and a few dollars more get them brand new, but my mom has one I'll check to see what brand hers is.
I've ran in to that issue at thrift stores before as well. They are no longer pricing their items to sell them they are pricing them to get peak value
I’ve got a bunch of Wagner Ware 1050 lil small pans I’ve used one for years as my ashtray
I've heard people doing that as well lol
Dixie foundry is the brand I always look for. They are extremely rare. Maytag, magic chef and Whirlpool can trace their Roots back to this brand.
Awesome! Good luck hunting 🙂
Very informative. I have a 10" square skillet that I picked up at a swap meet in the mid 80s, love it. The only identifying markings are the words "SQUARE SKILLET" on the bottom so I have no idea who made it.
Cast iron skillets are the best! 🙂
Probably a pre 1965 unmarked Wagner. The letter font is the best way to tell,
What about chrome hammered cast iron chicken fryer…
It’s hammered on Handel as well
What do you want to know about it?
I am from Erie ,Pa and sadly I don't own any Griswold...I went to a flea market in Pickens, SC and a man there has a lot of Griswold. Of course he has it priced high...he seemed to enjoy that I was from Erie. I took pictures and shared them to an Erie Facebook group. They loved them..I want to go back and buy some...after I sell a kidney that is.
😂😂 keep searching cast iron has come down quite a bit in our area where it is actually a must buy most of the time
Well leave it to me to have the odd piece out🤪. I inherited a cast iron dutch oven(?); Originally it had a glass lid v.cast iron. Nonetheless it is devoid of any marking and looks as though it was originally used on the ark🤣. But seriously is it possible for a vintage piece to have no marking? I'm also curious as to the belief that cast iron cookware literally adds iron to your food🤷.
As always, excellent presentation 👏👏. Thanks for keeping us informed!!
It does not add iron to your food and some vintage pieces do not have markings
@@66uniqueantiques Thank you!! Guess it's back to eating spinach 🤣
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@Nikki Huffman Hi Nikki! Very kind of you to take the time to share👏👏. 'The Witch's Pot' as I lovingly referred to it as a child belonged to my great grandmother; when the pot came out of the cabinet it meant only one thing;German Goulash was dinner that night;pot was never used for anything else. And now I will begin to hunt for the pot history. Thanks again!!
I think BSR is the most looked over brand.
I would agree with ya
Lodge still survived where Erie and Wagner died. Lodge still today makes brand new cast iron so dont discount them
Not discounting just saying
There videos have been so helpful!
Glad you are finding value in the videos!
I have a Wenzel 1887, do you have any information about this 3 legged Dutch oven jewl??
Send me some pics
@@66uniqueantiques I will try to,I'm a disabled Veteran, not very good at this stuff
🤘🏻💯Snap into a slim jim 🤣 Macho man made me say it 💯🤘🏻
😂😂 One of my favorite things I've picked up along the way 😂
Who could ever forget Randy Savage!!!
Now, you are a man with much knowledge, you know. Like, now, you know I did make a suggestion in a previous comment, you know, man. Now, you had, you know, like a positive response, man. Now, it’s like, you know, the response now appears to have been, like somewhat insincere, you know man. Now, I guess we subscribers just have to accept that’s just the way it is man you know, right. Now, right?
I said I'm working on it. Relax it's not easy to change a long standing habit but I'll keep plucking away.
@@66uniqueantiques, I know it is not easy. Most people are not even aware it is happening and making a change is not essential. You have accepted with grace and you are commended for it. I will say no more. Much respect to you!
Griswold No. 5 is one you did not mention. I have one. Any thoughts?
If I’m good shape it definitely has some value
What about unmarked Wagner or unmarked Erie , and lodge dont forget them or throw them under the bus they have been around almost as long as Erie and Wagner or Bsr or Piqua Favorite is a beautiful pan made just down the road south from Sidney Ohio. Or Wapak to the north of Sidney on old US 25 in the town of Wapakonetta Ohio you missed so many.
Lots of great cast iron out there that I didn’t mention but had to cut it off somewhere
Good info!!! Thank you.
Thanks Norma!
When you create a product that you can use for life what’s the business model
I miss honest companies it’s not always about money imo….making something that lasts decades is amazing imo
My husband and I have 1 cast iron size 3 that is hammered all around outside the skillet. There is no marking on it but it cooks very well. I’m wondering if you would know who made it.
Would want to see pics to make it easier
I’m an old school person, let me check if my granddaughter help me figure out how to forward the picture to you.
Ok sounds good
I just sent pictures to your messenger because I can’t figure out how to upload them here.
Ok I'll take a look
When did Wagner make the this pan, this is what it says on the bottom Wagner 1891 original then it tell you how to season it please help
Without a pic it's tough but I believe those are newer
@@66uniqueantiques Yes I found out it was made 1991-1997 I thought it was older than that but still a good pan I use it every day Thanks for your reply
Absolutely!
What can you tell about Lodge Cast Iron.
Lodge is also collectible but just not as popular as griswold or wagner. Still know of some collectors who do add pieces to their collection
Lodge is not as polished as well as the other ones . Also not as old lodge started in the 1960's. Still a good usable pan.
@@kimsnyder796 That's untrue, Lodge has been around since the early 1900's, they started in the blacklock foundry and the vintage blacklocks are very collectible.
@@user-vi3tb3bw5t Blacklocks? New word to me. What are they, J?
@@amandawilcox9638 The original Blacklock foundry by Joseph Lodge, they produced very high quality smooth cast iron cookware between 1896 and 1910, until the blacklock foundry burned down and the company rebuilt as Lodge.
Hey I just picked up a wagner 8 A with a wood handle is that kind of rare or common
The wood handle could be put on at A later date
@@66uniqueantiques oh OK well I'm just gonna restore the handle and use the pan I found a picture of that pan on Google but only one
Probably your best bet . Food off of cast is the best
So the older pans have nickel in them?
Some do yes
@@66uniqueantiques what I meant to ask, do the older companies did they put nickel in the cast iron for all the products they made or was it only iron?
I always thought Lodge was the best...whats your thoughts on it?
Lodge is a good brand for sure but I've always had better luck selling griswold and wagner to collectors.
Lodge is not as polished on the cooking surface as the older brands. And not as old
Great Info Kim
Did the old cast iron contain lead? Some say yes some say no. End the argument. Did any cast iron contain lead?
No it did not contain lead
I have this huge 2 x 3 ft cast iron stove thing that on the back says Wagner Sidney Ohio and the date looks like 1898. Maybe I’m reading that wrong but idk what else it could be. But Wagner is in a very simple font, not that fancy W. My aunt said “grandpa said don’t throw it away because it’s expensive and made from copper” I said that’s cast iron. It’s worth a lot because it’s cast iron. I had to take a magnet to show her and idk she still won’t believe anything I say. But I can’t find ANYTHING on the internet to identify it. I just want to prove I’m right. But I also want to know what it is. Is it a stove top? It’s huge. It’s heavy. Idk what it is and it kind of drives me crazy not being able to find information on it.
Edit: I can measure it so I know the exact measurements because what I typed above is a complete guess. Just know it’s this giant flat thing with handle like things on the side but idk how anyone would carry it with two hands by themselves.
Feel free to email us at 66uniqueantiques@gmail.com and we can see if we can help out
Did you say you have videos on removing rust, and restoring cast iron??👍 I'll really want to see that!! Keep wishing I'd kept my Grammas old cast iron...🥺😥 Thanks for good video 👍👍❣
Do a quick youtube search and you will find multiple videos to get your rust off of cast iron
@@66uniqueantiques Thanks so much 👍
No Problem 🙂
Can you help me identify a pan?
I can do my best feel free to email me some info
Don't leave out brands like BSR and Martin and a few others.
Absolutely!
Nice vid, but your specific details are way off.
I agree details are off, there is alot of info out there
Please elaborate
@@66uniqueantiques WW III is not my intention, there's plenty of in depth knowledge of American Vintage Cast Iron Cookware elsewhere at people's fingertips. In general, you make valid points about antiques and techniques in how to buy/sell/trade/appraise them.
“Erie”marked predate Griswold ?🤔
No it marks it as a griswold
Yes "Erie" pans predated Griswold, Selden predated "Erie"
Griswold is great. Unfortunately way overpriced. Lots of other equally great brands. Don’t be afraid to try other brands including Korean Japanese and Taiwan brands their collector value isn’t great but if seasoned well cook perfectly fine.
Collecting and using are 2 different things. As long as you know what your doing cast iron cooking is the best
you seem to be a racist when it comes to where the skillets were produced. Been selling cast iron cookware for 40 years, the #1 thing most customers look for is quality. Cast Iron Skillets made in Tawain or wherever can just be just as valuable to someone who is looking for a cast iron skillet for the perfect meal. You are only speaking from a resell point of view, and the issue with resellers is the want rare Wagners and Griswold for pennys on the dollar so they can make 1000% profit on a sale. Know your customer, that is #1, and the customer wants a good cast iron skiller, only a minority of customers are resellers these days. #2 well there is not a #2! Worry about the customer not trying to get a item for pennies on the dollar so they can make a good flip, and worry about the customers that make this worth the time! If anyone is looking for a good cast iron skillet to cook in, do not, and I repeat do not listen to this guy. He didnt even tell you about how the Big 2 american made cast iron companys would leave the wagner and grisold name off and just use numbers for wards catalog sales, or other discount stores, and yet they were the exact same skillet! Just without the name Wagner or griswold printed on the bottom. I would not follow this guy, he does not have his #1 as his priority! I have Wagner and Griswold, prolly more than this clown. But I also have some cast iron from overseas which provides the same service, and yes I can sell it cheaper and I do. I think every person should be educated to the fullest before buying a product. This guy is serving himself, not his customer!
Thanks for watching. Even though you couldn’t be more wrong about me or my knowledge of cast iron appreciate your support. 🙂
In the late '70s, when Alzheimer's research discovered there was a build-up of aluminum in the brains of affected individuals, I had a neighbor down the end of my block who gave me all her aluminum pans, and aluminum foil. She went back to using cast iron because she wasn't going to take any chances of getting the disease (she was in her late 60's by that time). It didn't matter to her that the research did not find a link to the use of aluminum cookware, she still went back to cast iron!---Me, I don't do much cooking anymore, it all goes in the microwave! But never having grown up with cast iron by any of my North Dakota family members, I wouldn't deal with the stuff anyway!
I have griz pan 10 with lid.
Nice!!