Lol true yeah this has weird dialogue but it is a ff game and also done by team ninja and tecmo koei known for dynasty warriors which is known for it's infamous translation anyways. I think it is fitting that buffmaister has him wearing the black knight like outfit especially knowing who he becomes
"Then the warriors of light will come" ...... "they're welcome to" *ensemble all turns to you, the player, about to start final fantasy for the first time on your nes in '90* just like, really good fanservice, made me tear up a lil
So in my understanding, Lufenians are perfectionists who dump all darkness in their world into Cornelia and send Strangers to clean up after since they can turn into chaos. Jack and his team, after countless loops, got emotional, went rouge and planned to sever the Lufenian's influence over Cornelia by becoming Chaos. The four fiends we fought in this game were our friends in past failed attempts. Only in the last loop did he successfully become Chaos. By controlling the darkness, he gives the Cornelians the reason to fight to forge the warriors of light. With light and darkness in clash, the world can now exist in balance even without Lufenian's intervention. Then, he creates a time loop by sending the four fiends 2,000 years into the future where WoLs are destined to clash with himself, knowing full well that he will be defeated because he understands the WoLs more than anyone, and have them send him back 2,000 years into the past, all this to ascertain that the cycle will persist. If we go by this logic, does this mean that the WoLs in FF1 ruin his plan by breaking the cycle and changing history altogether?
Here's my take-aways. Bear in mind that I have yet to play this gem. In one timeline, Jack lives for 2000 years and wrecks shop until Warriors of Light come and relight the crystals. In the other, Jack is killed, leading to a world without heroes because it's already been saved. In either case, Lufenia can't dump darkness willy-nilly into the world anymore because it either results in a FF3-esque Flood of Darkness, Jack breaking into Lufenia via the Strangers they send, or the Cornelian Warriors of Light creating a world with no need for heroes by tipping the scales decisively in favor of Light. No matter how many times Lufenia resets things at this point, Jack accomplishes his goals by rewriting history and destroying the entire system Lufenia's been using.
By that point in time, the Lufenians have been completely decimated by Tiamat and are brought to near extinction, with only a handful of survivors remaining and no way for them to counter attack. The WoLs in FF1 manage to stop the loop and create a world where Jack lives and never has to become Chaos, while the Lufenians are still completely fucked over. So, in the end, Jack gets to have his cake and eat it, too. Unfortunately FF1 doesn't mention if Jack's FRIENDS get their happy endings alongside him.
But then we also have the tie in with Dissidia that hinted at this lore way back then. Having Cid of the Lufenians who pretty much instead fully intended to create Chaos in order to forge the strongest weapon to wield. Going as far to make deals with Shinryu to reset the world over and over, forging countless fights of light against darkness endlessly to feed Chaos. But in the end Shinryu breaks their partnership with the intent to devour Chaos's power for himself so he can become even stronger. (and its even implies he lost to Feral Chaos)
@@whocares9908 But that is the thing, in the original ff 1 game, even when it says the WoL broke the cycle, by the end of the credits says "Garland is waiting" so he didnt break shit.
Goddamn, that final cutscene of Chaos in the castle was beautiful! Gives me the same vibes that Soul Calibur 3’s opening did with its nightmare segments.
It will explain later. On theory, the fiends we see are the present in the timeloop. The only lying on the floor is the memories of them. You can see why they keep asking Jack questions where he doesn’t answer so they think he doesn’t know and keep him in the end of the mission. The fiend might actually die in the first time loop
Damn i saw resemblance garland with lelouch now. I really like how SE bring the new story for the chaos warriors. When i first play ff1 garland were outright madman, but now with this i can symphatize with what he had gone through. Ah not to mention the warrior of light silhouette at the end were cool
Lelouch to Euphemia: "What if I order you to kill the japanese wouldn't it be funny hahaha" Jack to Sarah: "What if I tell you that I'll become Chaos wouldn't it be funny hahaha"
@@yezki8 That "vanilla build" WoL is the Classic Red WoL skin from Dissidia 012. (My fave skin from my 2nd main) The WoL built like that in the silhouette is probably the WoL that can also take down all other primary antagonists of other FF titles in a 1v1 match. XD
@@yezki8 Pretty much. I mean in 1 at the beginning you can choose your classes and evolve them later . My Warrior of light was a Monk/Martial Artist with his friends a thief, a red mage, and a light mage( Cause every team needs a good healer) But besides that the Warrior of light and his comrades are pretty low when they fight Garland. He is kinda the first boss. Personally I was level 20 when I killed him. It was kinda easy.
As campy as the dialogue was through out this entire game (among other minor criticisms), this was an interesting direction to modernize the origins of the FF1 story, without being convoluted as hell compared to FF7 RE's fate bs in the final half. And if it also has to be said for memes sake...Chaos, was in fact, the friends Jack made along the way.
I would literally shit myself. Just call the game "Final Fantasy". If it's popular, they could do FF 2. Just go full Resident Evil and start remaking the oldest titles.
......the first song to come as Garland says who the heck do you think you are....fits the scene perfectly....this stand up to the true evil moment......perfect......you can hate this game all you want...but this moment here....was perfectly done!
@@bobkys7916 Have you even actually _played_ Final Fantasy XIV before? Because if not, then kindly refrain from giving opinions about things you haven't yet experienced.
So now who is the real Garland.. jack garland chaos corrupted. Chaos got into his dark element and trigger him to become the garland everyone knows.. this is the true story about the protagonist becomes antagonist.. warriors of the light came next before garland. Now this is final fantasy 1 truth
He became Chaos to tell the Lufenians to piss off, then manipulated the scenario from his time loop so as to raise worthy Warriors of Light from the Cornelian natives using his and his friends' experiences from their quest, so that Cornelia can defeat him (Chaos) without the meddling of heartless otherworlders playing God. Guy became darkness manifest just to make a complete farce of a prophecy real by his own hands, even if it meant becoming the villain never to be with his princess again...
@@StillTendo Technically, it is. It’s just runs on Dissidia logic. Heck, the Warrior of light in the final scene is the exact same warrior of light from Dissidia. Keep that in mind.
That scene played at the very beginning of the game too. This video doesn't show the credits roll that comes between the arrival of the warriors of light and that scene, but I think they repeated it after the credits so that you would be able to understand it with all the context the story gives you, and so they could close the game the same way it started -- thus confirming the loop, in a way.
@@BuffMaister Nomura didn't write this game. It's rather we see this scene again but this time with the context of what the game was about and what it showed us.
"I need to kill Chaos!"
"But Jack, you are Chaos."
And then Jack was Chaos.
"Chaaaaaaaaaos!" - CohhCarnage's son, probably.
Lol true yeah this has weird dialogue but it is a ff game and also done by team ninja and tecmo koei known for dynasty warriors which is known for it's infamous translation anyways.
I think it is fitting that buffmaister has him wearing the black knight like outfit especially knowing who he becomes
And then Garland knocked them all down.
"Is that me?! Is that me stronger than me?!! I'LL FUCKING KILL ME!!!"
"Then the warriors of light will come"
......
"they're welcome to"
*ensemble all turns to you, the player, about to start final fantasy for the first time on your nes in '90*
just like, really good fanservice, made me tear up a lil
80s, but you got the spirit
In the ending of Different Futures DLC the narrator actually says the fifth warrior of light was you the player.
@@DJBSharpMusicA lot of people in the US didn't pick it up or play it until a couple years after it came out
So in my understanding, Lufenians are perfectionists who dump all darkness in their world into Cornelia and send Strangers to clean up after since they can turn into chaos.
Jack and his team, after countless loops, got emotional, went rouge and planned to sever the Lufenian's influence over Cornelia by becoming Chaos.
The four fiends we fought in this game were our friends in past failed attempts. Only in the last loop did he successfully become Chaos.
By controlling the darkness, he gives the Cornelians the reason to fight to forge the warriors of light. With light and darkness in clash, the world can now exist in balance even without Lufenian's intervention. Then, he creates a time loop by sending the four fiends 2,000 years into the future where WoLs are destined to clash with himself, knowing full well that he will be defeated because he understands the WoLs more than anyone, and have them send him back 2,000 years into the past, all this to ascertain that the cycle will persist.
If we go by this logic, does this mean that the WoLs in FF1 ruin his plan by breaking the cycle and changing history altogether?
Here's my take-aways. Bear in mind that I have yet to play this gem.
In one timeline, Jack lives for 2000 years and wrecks shop until Warriors of Light come and relight the crystals. In the other, Jack is killed, leading to a world without heroes because it's already been saved.
In either case, Lufenia can't dump darkness willy-nilly into the world anymore because it either results in a FF3-esque Flood of Darkness, Jack breaking into Lufenia via the Strangers they send, or the Cornelian Warriors of Light creating a world with no need for heroes by tipping the scales decisively in favor of Light.
No matter how many times Lufenia resets things at this point, Jack accomplishes his goals by rewriting history and destroying the entire system Lufenia's been using.
By that point in time, the Lufenians have been completely decimated by Tiamat and are brought to near extinction, with only a handful of survivors remaining and no way for them to counter attack.
The WoLs in FF1 manage to stop the loop and create a world where Jack lives and never has to become Chaos, while the Lufenians are still completely fucked over. So, in the end, Jack gets to have his cake and eat it, too. Unfortunately FF1 doesn't mention if Jack's FRIENDS get their happy endings alongside him.
But then we also have the tie in with Dissidia that hinted at this lore way back then.
Having Cid of the Lufenians who pretty much instead fully intended to create Chaos in order to forge the strongest weapon to wield.
Going as far to make deals with Shinryu to reset the world over and over, forging countless fights of light against darkness endlessly to feed Chaos.
But in the end Shinryu breaks their partnership with the intent to devour Chaos's power for himself so he can become even stronger.
(and its even implies he lost to Feral Chaos)
@@jefthereaper Feral Chaos is a uncontrollable version of Chaos in Cid's nightmare made by Shinryu.
@@whocares9908 But that is the thing, in the original ff 1 game, even when it says the WoL broke the cycle, by the end of the credits says "Garland is waiting" so he didnt break shit.
Goddamn, that final cutscene of Chaos in the castle was beautiful! Gives me the same vibes that Soul Calibur 3’s opening did with its nightmare segments.
This is a pretty sick 4 fiends origin. But kinda weird that the fiends fought themselves.
It will explain later. On theory, the fiends we see are the present in the timeloop. The only lying on the floor is the memories of them. You can see why they keep asking Jack questions where he doesn’t answer so they think he doesn’t know and keep him in the end of the mission.
The fiend might actually die in the first time loop
Damn i saw resemblance garland with lelouch now. I really like how SE bring the new story for the chaos warriors. When i first play ff1 garland were outright madman, but now with this i can symphatize with what he had gone through. Ah not to mention the warrior of light silhouette at the end were cool
Lelouch to Euphemia: "What if I order you to kill the japanese wouldn't it be funny hahaha"
Jack to Sarah: "What if I tell you that I'll become Chaos wouldn't it be funny hahaha"
@@doomkappa3407 right the resemblance is there
Now they just need to remake FF1. Also that silhouette is basically vanilla build low level WoL right? How strong are they canonically?
@@yezki8 That "vanilla build" WoL is the Classic Red WoL skin from Dissidia 012. (My fave skin from my 2nd main) The WoL built like that in the silhouette is probably the WoL that can also take down all other primary antagonists of other FF titles in a 1v1 match. XD
@@yezki8
Pretty much. I mean in 1 at the beginning you can choose your classes and evolve them later . My Warrior of light was a Monk/Martial Artist with his friends a thief, a red mage, and a light mage( Cause every team needs a good healer)
But besides that the Warrior of light and his comrades are pretty low when they fight Garland. He is kinda the first boss. Personally I was level 20 when I killed him. It was kinda easy.
As campy as the dialogue was through out this entire game (among other minor criticisms), this was an interesting direction to modernize the origins of the FF1 story, without being convoluted as hell compared to FF7 RE's fate bs in the final half.
And if it also has to be said for memes sake...Chaos, was in fact, the friends Jack made along the way.
More like the *fiends* Jack made along the way.
-I'll walk myself out-
One day SE should make a big budget FF1 remake that incorporates all the weird, cool nonsense that's been retcon'd into it via Dissidia and SoP.
not really retcons when its just expanding on the story
I would literally shit myself. Just call the game "Final Fantasy". If it's popular, they could do FF 2. Just go full Resident Evil and start remaking the oldest titles.
That intro of the OST when that blue crystal room appears was pretty epic.
Holy shit, FF origin to FF 1 is now basically The Pantom Pain to original MG
Omg great point yeah
"He´s unintelligable"
They....they havent done their homework to see thats how he always is, did they?
He wasn't always like that before though
22:26 One brings shadow, one brings the light
The dialogue is so fucking dumb and I love it.
And that stupid filter on Jack's voice is just as good.
So the Lufenians were the villains all along...they controlled the story line of the first final fantasy in this endless cycle....
......the first song to come as Garland says who the heck do you think you are....fits the scene perfectly....this stand up to the true evil moment......perfect......you can hate this game all you want...but this moment here....was perfectly done!
They need to remake FF1 so it can line up perfectly with this one. They must because I'm so excited!
There's more DLC coming I believe. I hope it's basically just all of FF1 and potentially after just from Garland's view
Well played....well played square, I eat my own words.
Wow, so this is canon after all…would of you know
I AM SO HYPED LETS GOOOO!
This... is the path to becoming as... the warrior of darkness.
in some form this realy links to ff14 shadowbringer
WE DID EVERYTHING RIGHT
@@Theigzorn they're warriors of calamity. Don't compare them to that mmo garbage.
@@bobkys7916 Have you even actually _played_ Final Fantasy XIV before? Because if not, then kindly refrain from giving opinions about things you haven't yet experienced.
@@bobkys7916 And certainly better than this cesspool
I love how brutal and no censure, the last scene!
So now who is the real Garland.. jack garland chaos corrupted. Chaos got into his dark element and trigger him to become the garland everyone knows.. this is the true story about the protagonist becomes antagonist.. warriors of the light came next before garland. Now this is final fantasy 1 truth
Cid will save the day
He became Chaos to tell the Lufenians to piss off, then manipulated the scenario from his time loop so as to raise worthy Warriors of Light from the Cornelian natives using his and his friends' experiences from their quest, so that Cornelia can defeat him (Chaos) without the meddling of heartless otherworlders playing God. Guy became darkness manifest just to make a complete farce of a prophecy real by his own hands, even if it meant becoming the villain never to be with his princess again...
@@natchu96 He saved her and her world, even if she'll never know it :'(
the chaos in this time is manifestation / data of the chaos
Dang man you’re already at the final boss?
WOL: I hoave come to stop you, for I am--
Garland: IDON'TGIVEAFUCKWHOYOUARE *punches WOL's companions away
the only doubt I have is does Sarah remembers Jack?
This was a very over the top way to fuck with the mainline games.
Damn final boss is a bunch of blue rock formations. I felt that. 😔
I see, so villain is revolutionary people who use necessary evil for greater good
this can be considered a prequel to the original FF1?
Definitely
Sure but it’s not canon
@@StillTendo Technically, it is. It’s just runs on Dissidia logic. Heck, the Warrior of light in the final scene is the exact same warrior of light from Dissidia. Keep that in mind.
@@miltoncobb103 nah man. Garland wasnt wearing no T shirt in FF1 😅😅
It's a prequel but also a remake. Like remaking the timeline from scratch.
Using runic guard made you invincible and you can infinite combo in phase 2 cause you have infinite MP. KILLING CHAOS WITH MORE CHAOS 😜
I hope we get dissidia prequel one day
What armor set do you have on ?
Dragoon/Wyrm set.
"Mine"
it's everything i wanted
Damn why everyone blood look like fruit punch?
Rated T
I get nano breaker vibes from it lol
Sponsored by fanta?
Shouldnt the scene of Garland taking the princess come BEFORE the arrival of the warriors of light?
Nomura moment.
That scene played at the very beginning of the game too. This video doesn't show the credits roll that comes between the arrival of the warriors of light and that scene, but I think they repeated it after the credits so that you would be able to understand it with all the context the story gives you, and so they could close the game the same way it started -- thus confirming the loop, in a way.
@@BuffMaister Nomura didn't write this game. It's rather we see this scene again but this time with the context of what the game was about and what it showed us.
This isn't really that cringe.
The cut away to the memories is cheesy af 😁😁
Did anybody besides me guessed the big twist as soon as they started the game?
I guessed it as soon as they revealed Jack's full name in a trailer.
why is this so cringe good lord
Gotta admit story was solid with meme moments