Thanks Tinman. I watched my friend do his Pioneer & was impressed. You and Jerry have convinced me to do my 7-10a. It has always been smooth idle & excellent Top end but restart has been a nightmare. Like Buckin's was doing for you. Peace
Great way to start a rainy Saturday morning. a cup of coffee, and a great chainsaw vid. I Thank You Tinman, as I learned something useful today about ignition chips, Thumbs Up !
Those chips have saved me with some old homelites, so much better and easier than messing with points. My mac and some of my homelites run like that. It takes a little longer to get all that mass moving as well as slowed down. Great video.
Awhile ago I watched Buckin use that old saw. Crazy that old point tech only worked when it was new. As the saw got older it made the saw harder to run effectively and properly. Nice job actually awesome job like to watch when I have time. :)
You have the touch brother I have seen quite a few McCulloch port jobs on CZcams. I have only seen one that can get them up in the high range and sing like that incredible! Great job! On all your builds! Crazy 🤙🏻😎
I really like where you mounted that module. It's my understanding that some of those can be finicky when they get hot. I think she'll get good air flow there. Clearly that setup changed the manners of that saw. I don't think I have ever heard a mac run like that, Tinman! SHE RIPS!
That sounds like it revs heaps cleaner. Job done. Hey mate thanks for the crank seal numbers, I had the 6120 sussed but couldn't figure the other one. Joy.
All Macs have me messing with the idle screw after running a more modern saw. I always think they are Lean. Glad to see I'm not the only one. I really like the ignition chip. New points you get are pretty horrible. I am always messing with old stuff and if the original points are bad I look for a electronic option.
I enjoyed this even though I won’t likely build and old saw anytime soon. I must say you’ve run some cool old bikes if that’s the case though. Hope to hear more about that, and I bet there’s some other Bike guys out here thinking the same. Great channel man, you’re doing great things here. 👍🏻✌🏻❤️🌲
Nicely done! Haha. Buckin sure gave ya some good content with that saw👍you cleaned her up real good n everything is spinning to top RPM’s. With no torque loss. NICE!!! He’s gonna love that saw🇨🇦⚙️⛓❤️
Hi, nice Job. I just installed some of these Modules , but they are not working in every Igniter. You should always take a timing light to check before and after installing these great Modules. Sometimes you have to regroove the Flywheel. Right now i‘m repairing a Honda Tiller G50 from 1970s,which has a Temperature Ignitionproblem with backfiring into the intake after 3 Minutes of Running under load. I think it is the condenser but you don‘t get any new Sparepart. So i put a External chainsaw Condenser in. Lets see if she runs😃 Thanks for your nice Videos!
Awesome job buddy. So excited for you and the channel. You have become so comfortable talking to us all. Your a good man and a great teacher. Very happy for ya bud. Also excited to see that Mac with a 32 inch bar!! Have a great day bud. WORK SAFE 😎😎
Thanks Tinman. I had just discovered that my pro mac 10-10 had a clutch side seal leak and I came in and decided to watch this vid, and you randomly spout off part numbers for the seals. Thanks. I'm not sure if the flywheel side seal is the same as the 700 but thanks anyway.
Extrapolate! There’s you fifty cent word for the day! Haha really appreciate your attention to detail! What a cool project! Thanks for sharing buddy!👍👍👍👍🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🙏🙏🙏🙏
@@tinmanssaws same with my 10-10 a lot of momentum even though the rpm come down it just takes a bit to idle all the way past clutch engagement. I have played with mine and it's a fine balance between keeping idle and slow to stop spin and falling on it's face. L and H jet both real close to 1 turn.
Those modules were used heavily in Stihl 051 076 saws points always failed module was reliable headache free option points are for display saws in my book
I've always run condensers from the auto parts store in all my mopeds, chainsaws and anything two-stroke that needs a condenser, I usually ask the parts counter for a condenser for 1969 Chevy Nova and if they don't have it in stock I just look in the area where they would normally store it but just about any condenser will work you just might have to modify the timing advance or retardation to get it dead on again
I was really surprised that the 670 had that much power when you ported it. I knew it would be better but I think a showdown between the 670 and the mighty 266 is in order.
I can just hear buckin saying “ Oh My GOODNESS” when he latches onto that thing lol EDIT: I made that comment went to Buckin’s channel and his thumbnail says “ OH MY GOODNESS” for this saw haha that was good for a laugh.
Great video. Learned a lot. I have a Pioneer P 60 with a bad coil. Cannot find a coil. I was wondering if you knew of any replacement coils for this beautiful saw?
I get the same problem with my pro mac 60 get the carb set where the chain dont spin at idle but once you rev it up takes a bit for the chain to stop spinning
Rember hp and rpm get u to the wall torque is what takes u threw it in small wood newer saws whop macs but get into big 4 and 5 ft around a Mac will walk all over a newer saw in hardwood
I've always wanted to know what timing different chips produce. Timing and timing curve (if any) is built into the chip. Way back in the olden days, a firm called Atom came out with chips (they were not extremely reliable unfortunately) and they had several different color codes that each had different timing. So you could pick the advance you wanted. It would be way cool to throw a timing light
Okay I gotta ask why do you pull the recoil out before shutoff is it to avoid wear on the string itself or the recoil mechanism or both? Love the vids buddy keep em up!
good video. how is the magnetig on the flywheel.if its week can have similar problems and the saw not running ok on low rpm.specielly when using points. good spark now their with elektronic
Hello, I’ve started to install a module on my Mac 10 10 I probably don’t have to remove the points to complete the job but I’m just wondering how you removed the Woodruff key on the 850 thanks Tinman love your videos
Unlike an automobile that has a battery to power the primary side of the coil, a saw has no source of voltage. What or how does the condenser charge when the points are closed? Is it from the inductive action of the coil?
Another great video! Hey Tin Man anyway you can find out with the connections you have if there's anybody in the Connecticut area that ports saws? Also check out the channel would love to see what you think. New to the whole CZcams thing hahaha
Yes points and condensors are not what they used to be. New points and condensors are no longer a priority even for the original equipment manufacturers to make. Everything has gone electronic decades ago and manufacturers no longer have a interest in making these things, they have moved on, so manufacture of the old technology is outsourced, these days to China. Unfortunately as we know a lot of Chinese stuff looks the part but is made of inferior materials. I recently had a brand new Echlin points and condensor fail catastrophically after only 2 hours. Changing to electronic is the way to go. That's what I did.
Does she ever run good doesn't even slow down in the wood great job buddy as Buckin would say she's got CRACK N PULL MY FRIEND SHAKLANK BE SAFE TINMAN ,,SHES A SCREAMER BUDDY
Hi, or we like to say in north germany: moin.
It's look very simple and good. I will test it on a 045 Stihl.
Thanks
Thanks Tinman. I watched my friend do his Pioneer & was impressed. You and Jerry have convinced me to do my 7-10a. It has always been smooth idle & excellent Top end but restart has been a nightmare. Like Buckin's was doing for you. Peace
Freakin awesome! Love the old Macs. I have a 250 that is 60+ yrs old and im getting ready to put her back into service instead of buying a new saw.
I think that did the trick. It runs and sounds pretty dang good, Nice Job. Take Care, Stay Safe and Be Kind...
They were ahead of there time in many ways so I don't think they would mind you putting a bit of tech on her. 👍
Performed this mod on my pro Mac 60 this morning. Started right up no issues. Thank you.
Great way to start a rainy Saturday morning. a cup of coffee, and a great chainsaw vid. I Thank You Tinman, as I learned something useful today about ignition chips, Thumbs Up !
I installed ignition chips in all 4 of my macs. I like nostalgia but the points were causing tuning issues. Love the content. Thanks Tinman!
My dream saw would be a Homlite XL 76 , husky 266,or Mac 125 built by Ironhorse, Tin man, or bell hopper, you guys are great love the continent
Those chips have saved me with some old homelites, so much better and easier than messing with points. My mac and some of my homelites run like that. It takes a little longer to get all that mass moving as well as slowed down. Great video.
i definitely think buckins going to love ripping with that saw man she sings. love the work as always keep it up stay safe everyone an enjoy the day
Oh I think she's fixed. Nice repair!
Awhile ago I watched Buckin use that old saw. Crazy that old point tech only worked when it was new. As the saw got older it made the saw harder to run effectively and properly. Nice job actually awesome job like to watch when I have time. :)
You should have heard me cheering you on! I was wanting to bring you a bigger test log and my screwdriver for that low jet. You didn't need it.
She's screaming now. Another great build tinman! Fantastic!
You are the man brother keep on kicking butt love the fottage
You have the touch brother I have seen quite a few McCulloch port jobs on CZcams. I have only seen one that can get them up in the high range and sing like that incredible! Great job! On all your builds! Crazy 🤙🏻😎
Oh man! That little ignition might be just what I need for my dead 056's. Thanks for sharing!
I just got a new cylinder and piston for my super pro 70. I will be rebuilding it soon, great information.
I swapped to the chip in my XL 12 and it ran way better
Great job. Bucking going to enjoy it. Every one be safe and be careful.
Great job Tinman,keep building saws, and one day I will send up my Poulan Pro, 50-20 just to see what you can do with it!
Just what I needed, got a 180s I'll be doing this too. Possibly a few others. Thanks for posting!
Subscribed. Buckin' is gonna love it! Cheers & God bless!
Great work Tinman 👍🏻
Wow! This one is going to be One of Buckins fav’s! You have to start autographing your saws! They are pretty mean! ❤️it! She is a screamer...
Yep. Good call. He needs a sweet tag 🏷
@@shapeshifter7753 ya think! We should start giving suggestions
I tag all my saws. This one reads "tinmam was here" lol
Tin MAM!? Lol...
Ok. Your the Tin mam
I really like where you mounted that module. It's my understanding that some of those can be finicky when they get hot. I think she'll get good air flow there. Clearly that setup changed the manners of that saw.
I don't think I have ever heard a mac run like that, Tinman! SHE RIPS!
Nice hot blue spark. Just how it should be.
That sounds like it revs heaps cleaner. Job done. Hey mate thanks for the crank seal numbers, I had the 6120 sussed but couldn't figure the other one. Joy.
All Macs have me messing with the idle screw after running a more modern saw. I always think they are Lean. Glad to see I'm not the only one. I really like the ignition chip. New points you get are pretty horrible. I am always messing with old stuff and if the original points are bad I look for a electronic option.
Yeah points were ok 40 years ago but today i think we can do much better.
I enjoyed this even though I won’t likely build and old saw anytime soon. I must say you’ve run some cool old bikes if that’s the case though. Hope to hear more about that, and I bet there’s some other Bike guys out here thinking the same. Great channel man, you’re doing great things here. 👍🏻✌🏻❤️🌲
Nicely done! Haha. Buckin sure gave ya some good content with that saw👍you cleaned her up real good n everything is spinning to top RPM’s. With no torque loss. NICE!!! He’s gonna love that saw🇨🇦⚙️⛓❤️
Hi, nice Job. I just installed some of these Modules , but they are not working in every Igniter. You should always take a timing light to check before and after installing these great Modules. Sometimes you have to regroove the Flywheel. Right now i‘m repairing a Honda Tiller G50 from 1970s,which has a Temperature Ignitionproblem with backfiring into the intake after 3 Minutes of Running under load. I think it is the condenser but you don‘t get any new Sparepart. So i put a External chainsaw Condenser in. Lets see if she runs😃
Thanks for your nice Videos!
It runs great now . I ordered 2 on ebay now for some of my saws . I like the old McCullochs !
Well done Tinman 👍👍
Hey Jack good to see ya here!!
I have used them a lot on older saws I've had good luck with them
Awesome job buddy. So excited for you and the channel. You have become so comfortable talking to us all. Your a good man and a great teacher. Very happy for ya bud. Also excited to see that Mac with a 32 inch bar!! Have a great day bud. WORK SAFE 😎😎
Thanks, its been a fun journey.
Way to stick with it! Great job on the trouble shooting. Your patients has paid off again. She is a ripper!💪
Thanks Tinman. I had just discovered that my pro mac 10-10 had a clutch side seal leak and I came in and decided to watch this vid, and you randomly spout off part numbers for the seals. Thanks. I'm not sure if the flywheel side seal is the same as the 700 but thanks anyway.
I think they are the same.
@@tinmanssaws thanks. Before I order I want to measure the old one, since I saw some conflicting numbers online.
Looks like a hot spark ...you should touch it 😁 Well done sir, I think you nailed it.
Great tutorial.
Glad you liked it!
Seems like a fine line between rich and lean. Nice job tm.👍🏻
Great work 💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻 ignition module.
Kindness and love
Awsome
Extrapolate! There’s you fifty cent word for the day! Haha really appreciate your attention to detail! What a cool project! Thanks for sharing buddy!👍👍👍👍🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🙏🙏🙏🙏
I read that one in my dictionminary!!
@@tinmanssaws haha great job! That things a beast!
Shes a ripper! Loved seein this saw come together!
its cutting very good
I think you’re right. The rotating mass of a heavy flywheel and clutch will make it come down to idle slower than most saws.
I think thats a mac thing. Seems to make sense.
@@tinmanssaws same with my 10-10 a lot of momentum even though the rpm come down it just takes a bit to idle all the way past clutch engagement. I have played with mine and it's a fine balance between keeping idle and slow to stop spin and falling on it's face. L and H jet both real close to 1 turn.
Nice job, that saw sound great! Buckin will run the snot out or it for sure!
i know this is an old video but i think the slow return to idle is from blow by. it only does it after several cuts so heat is a factor
Those modules were used heavily in Stihl 051 076 saws points always failed module was reliable headache free option points are for display saws in my book
Good work
I've always run condensers from the auto parts store in all my mopeds, chainsaws and anything two-stroke that needs a condenser, I usually ask the parts counter for a condenser for 1969 Chevy Nova and if they don't have it in stock I just look in the area where they would normally store it but just about any condenser will work you just might have to modify the timing advance or retardation to get it dead on again
I was really surprised that the 670 had that much power when you ported it. I knew it would be better but I think a showdown between the 670 and the mighty 266 is in order.
Nice work! Looks like your got’er licked. And it has such a nice Mac sound. Thanks Tinman!
Do a 4.2 Lombard. They were a pretty good hot rod in their day.
I can just hear buckin saying “ Oh My GOODNESS” when he latches onto that thing lol
EDIT: I made that comment went to Buckin’s channel and his thumbnail says “ OH MY GOODNESS” for this saw haha that was good for a laugh.
Great video. Learned a lot. I have a Pioneer P 60 with a bad coil. Cannot find a coil. I was wondering if you knew of any replacement coils for this beautiful saw?
I get the same problem with my pro mac 60 get the carb set where the chain dont spin at idle but once you rev it up takes a bit for the chain to stop spinning
good job well done she cuts nice
BILL BLOCK!!
SWEET !!!
Rember hp and rpm get u to the wall torque is what takes u threw it in small wood newer saws whop macs but get into big 4 and 5 ft around a Mac will walk all over a newer saw in hardwood
Bryan Gray on CZcams has used Nova chip on some old Macs. I think it makes sense for hassle free operation. She's ripping now!
Yeah man do a small saw!
that thing haul way better now 👍🤟
I've always wanted to know what timing different chips produce. Timing and timing curve (if any) is built into the chip. Way back in the olden days, a firm called Atom came out with chips (they were not extremely reliable unfortunately) and they had several different color codes that each had different timing. So you could pick the advance you wanted. It would be way cool to throw a timing light
A self powered timing light like we use on bikes would tell the tale.
Okay I gotta ask why do you pull the recoil out before shutoff is it to avoid wear on the string itself or the recoil mechanism or both? Love the vids buddy keep em up!
good video. how is the magnetig on the flywheel.if its week can have similar problems and the saw not running ok on low rpm.specielly when using points. good spark now their with elektronic
Mika Hakkinen How’s retirement from F1 been?
@@larryreno8293 aim not the f1 driver but a have the same name.
Still a great name!!
@@larryreno8293 sure it is.thanks
Hello, I’ve started to install a module on my Mac 10 10 I probably don’t have to remove the points to complete the job but I’m just wondering how you removed the Woodruff key on the 850 thanks Tinman love your videos
Love that waterfall of chips at 20:20
She cuts eh? No matter how you tune it, Buckin’ will tune it again!
Yep she cuts.
Different weather air may want a different target for the crack and pull?
Hey tinman she's done running sweet as a nut boi..
I put those on everything.
Heck yeah, now she cuts hey
Unlike an automobile that has a battery to power the primary side of the coil, a saw has no source of voltage. What or how does the condenser charge when the points are closed? Is it from the inductive action of the coil?
you could sell those Bucking Mack cookies on ebay!
Awesome content, will this work with all Mc's 250-125's? Ty for the knowledge
Yes it's worked on every saw I've tried it on
@@tinmanssaws awesome ty, have you seen any super 250's floating around? Always wanted one
Another great video! Hey Tin Man anyway you can find out with the connections you have if there's anybody in the Connecticut area that ports saws? Also check out the channel would love to see what you think. New to the whole CZcams thing hahaha
Thats just it. Most people fix several saws with different issues to learn, I rebuilt one saw with ALL OF THE ISSUES. King turd, you might call it.
What's your opinion of the Stihl 391?
Rotating mass is serious business. Some time you want it sometimes you don't. Knowing makes you "Sensei" like Tinman..............................
Tinman listen to me PRETTY MUCH ANY AUTOMOTIVE CONDENSER WILL WORK THE THING ONLY SERVES AN LC OSCILATOR AND TO STOP THE POINT ARCING AWAY
Does the module need to be in any specific location in relation to the 360 degree rotation?
No its just wire it in and the saw runs.. pretty simple.
@@tinmanssaws Thanks. I have a vintage one called an atom module. May try it on a Mac I have with no spark . Probably get coil tested first though. 👍
Yes points and condensors are not what they used to be. New points and condensors are no longer a priority even for the original equipment manufacturers to make.
Everything has gone electronic decades ago and manufacturers no longer have a interest in making these things, they have moved on, so manufacture of the old technology is outsourced, these days to China.
Unfortunately as we know a lot of Chinese stuff looks the part but is made of inferior materials.
I recently had a brand new Echlin points and condensor fail catastrophically after only 2 hours.
Changing to electronic is the way to go. That's what I did.
Works now A ?
And there's your dinner
Does she ever run good doesn't even slow down in the wood great job buddy as Buckin would say she's got CRACK N PULL MY FRIEND SHAKLANK BE SAFE TINMAN ,,SHES A SCREAMER BUDDY
Crank n' pull was the nane of the gane on this one.