Alien: The 'Betty' (& USM Auriga) | Ship Breakdown
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I just want to know when vol 3 is coming out
@@Grandtemplar1191 Me too :)
Hey when are you going to start breaking down ships and powers from “The Orville”?
Can you do breakdowns for Dead Space vessels like USG Ishimura, USM Eudora, USM TerraNova and so on?
Fun fact about the scene where Ripley casually scores a basket: it cut away so quickly because everyone (including Ron Perlman) got really excited when Sigourney Weaver scored that basket. Absolutely amazing.
The basket was originally supposed to be done digitally- but Weaver convinced director Jean-Pierre Jeunet to let her try to do it "live", which she did...
@@brianknapp6215 Which makes it all the more awesome.
@@GmodPlusWoW Definitely a "one take and done"!
So never thought about it until now. He mentioned this ship was in a area of space that wasn't apart of any patrol territory. Yet from the beginning of the xenomorphs escape to when they reached earth was a few hours or a day or so. So the question is how fast was that ship going to get to earth that quickly.
It was powered by plot-onium
Maybe the Sol system (and/or Earth) had been abandoned by military forces by that point? Who knows.
@@FlamingNinja I think Earth is supposedly abandoned at this point. I believe there is an ending for this movie where ripely lands in the ruins of Paris
The ship was in the Sol System but up or down from the plain of the planets. There's not much there, so no reason to patrol it. With a Ion or Plasma Drive, assisted by gravity, travelling at lets say 2G acceleration, you can get from Mars to Earth in about 3-4 days. So if the ship was in a area that's not patrolled, it should reach Earth quickly.
well there was that joke line "earth man.... what a shithole"
i guess they were serious and earth is abandoned
My favourite part was Father saying "Thank you!" in that cheerfull voice one second before crashing. So polite! :D
One thing I didn't understand was why they first were in deep space then plot a course for earth lightyears away, like why not just shoot it into dead space or park it near the sun using solar panels to provide power then drop it if there was a breach.
Because then the movie couldn’t happen.
Because someone wanted a big explosion
The ship's default command in an emergency is to return to Earth.
Probably one of the reasons Resurrection isn't considered as good as the previous films.
The whole point was they were hiding out in unregulated deep space. They had to keep away from shipping lanes and populated systems. The return to Earth was just the AI's default protocol in a critical emergency.
Like anything that the Aliens saga has done, is take somewhat unpleasant looking vessels and make them awe-inspiring, massive, and intimidating for the viewers to behold.
That scene in the escape pod still haunts me. Just frickin brutal way to go.
The main issue is still how closing Ripley would also clone a foreign body inside her.
Probably why it took them 7 attempts (that we know of) plus hundreds of years. The movie has plenty of issues already, let’s not make more out of nothing
We know Xenomorphs acquire genetic characteristics from the hosts, perhaps there's a genetic imprint of the xenomorph left in the host's DNA. Alternatively when Ripley died in that blast furnace hers and the Xenomorph's DNA were smeared together so when they retrieved the DNA they got both. They had to clone her eight times to get enough pure Alien Queen DNA, and even then they could only get Ripley by combining the DNA of both which is why Ripley is now part Xenomorph. Or a little of both.
@@3Rayfire You don't need to waste time making clones to increase the amount of DNA. You can use PCR for that.
@@MorbidEel Presumably they couldn't decipher what was and wasn't necessary Xenomorph DNA from whatever they pulled, so they had to grow it. PCR might not be viable for alien genetics after all.
@@SuperiorBrick it's the reason the plot happened so no it's not nothing.
The Betty and her crew were the seed of the concept for Serenity and her crew in Firefly. It's interesting to see the similarities between them.
Lol.... Also look at Titan AE another Whedon project.... The crew is basically the same tropes
@Stephen Robertson
I never realized the Betty/Serenity connection.
@@BelRigh
Interesting. Also, thanks for showing love to Titan A.E. Criminally overlooked film.
@@TheVeritas1 of course.... I own all 3 on blu ray...lol.... Multiple copies of Serenity and Firefly.....
But a: a romantic couple
b: the Brute
C: the person who is just in it for themselves
D: an idealist
E: a tech wizard
F: mostly people who are just trying to get along in the verse
G: a weapon lover
H: a misfit
I: an outsider
J: a mystic
I mean it's ALLL THERE.... Honestly it's a pretty good trope for a SCIFI crew
No. Serenity/ Firefly is a remake of Cowboy Bebop.
They would never kidnap people for science experiments.
Betty is your standard mery crew of pirates/ outcasts.
I think Alien Resurrection gets too much hate: it was different, but it was trying to be fresh. Going more towards "macabre" but it's supposed to be a horror movie. Though Weaver's performance really carries it. And I liked the grimy design of the ship.
I mean it was a good just didn't really feel like alien I guess you could say and I think that's what a lot of people's problem was. But otherwise I actually really enjoyed that one
Yeah, I liked it. Not amazing, but good enough for me.
I'm just not a fan of Joss Whedon's scriptwriting. 🤷♂️
I prefer to stick with the novel.
It's a good film, way better than alien 3 (and any other alien film since) but it's also not as good as the first two films, I'd put resurrection at a 6/10 while alien and aliens is an 8/10, it's an enjoyable film but just not on the same level as the two that set the standard, which makes it look worse than it is.
There's definitely some interesting ideas in it, like what happened to earth, what's going on with androids, etc. I could see it being an interesting setting for a show, like take firefly and add more horror themes and more scifi.
@@minicle426 ...yes.
I always wondered if the team that designed the model of the Betty used the arms of the Valkyrie battloid from Macross for the large gimballed VTOL thrusters on the sides. They look really similar, and "kitbashing" is pretty common for stuff like this in sci fi films.
i always found it weird that they have such huge empty ships in alien movies. it makes sense in Alien because its a refinery/transport ship and basically a flying factory complex with a cockpit. In Aliens it doesnt make sense that they just send a officer, a squad of soliders and 2 pilots. Seems like the ship itself had no crew whatsoever. Same in Alien 4. a huge ship with a Crew of barely 50. I guess the big layrinthian ships are part of the "haunted house in space" theme
In aliens it was implied they had a rough drop that took out a significant portion of their full company, so two squads was what they had and they won the lotto to go and investigate the colony blackout. Granted the USCM didn't really have any reason to suspect there was going to be anything much other than a downed transmitter on the planet given that it was, "A rock, no indigenous life."
@Nalothisal Filming practicality aside, that's still absurd. That would mean their company lost 2 entire platoons and a squad. Not to mention, their ship would still need an actual crew.
The crew is most likely there, but there's nothing they can actually do to influence the events of the movie, so including them would literally just be, "Yes this spaceship has people running it," Plus, shipboard AI are a thing, so they might not need to have a standing crew and can just use the marine detachment onboard to perform daily tasks. It's also just idling in orbit for the duration of the film, so it wouldn't necessarily require a lot of monitoring.
The Nostromo wasn't part of the refinery. It was just towing it. The ship they landed on the planet was the entire Nostromo, the huge mass left in orbit was the refinery. As far as the Sulaco and the Auriga, they were designed to be completely autonomous with no flight crew required. The computers were running the show. That's why Bishop needed a satellite transmitter so he could contact the ship's AI and tell it to launch the second drop ship.
I always loved the giant thrusters on the Betty. I just thought the whole ship looked cool when I was younger.
There are only TWO Alien movies - I just don’t know where they got this footage from. 😂
Eh..... 3 and Resurrection weren't.... awful. They were nowhere NEAR as good as the first two, granted.... but that's setting the bar pretty high.
We're not talking Highlander 2 bad here.
@@corwinweber693 HOLD ON…there is only Highlander. I mean the entire point was that there can be only one - so there can’t be any other movies. What would they call a second? Or a third? We said there can be only one but we were kidding? :)
@@leodouskyron5671 Eh. The ones after 2 basically expanded on the series and again weren't horrible, although they weren't great either. 2 was the real cinematic turd.
What about a breakdown of some of the ships from Battle for Terra? Loved that movie as a kid
Why "collision course with Earth"?
Why not... I don't know... ANYTHING ELSE? Jupiter, Saturn, Venus, Mercury, Neptune... hell... probably even small moon might work...
to be able to do a sequel if enough success is achieved or if there is interest
why aim towards Africa and not the Ocean or Arctic
Wow somebody loves earth.. 😂
I agree with your question, Why Earth? It would seem to me that a containment breach of that magnatude would constitute a collision with the sun, not Earth. Letting them crash land on any planet just makes the containment breach that much worse, if any survived, then Earth would become a breeding ground for the xenomorphs. And further Why the hell were they cloning the alien queen in the first place? I can't imagine any senario where that would be profitable.
3:22 Huh, so if you ran heat pipes along the ceramic layer, the entire outer layer of armor could be used as a radiator? Gonna have to remember that.
I'm honestly shocked that there ARE unpopulated parts of places like Africa this far into the future
How many of the xenomorphs survived the crash?
Enough to start up a decently-sized religion.....
...Enough to start a sequel when (if?) Disney sells the rights to someone willing to adapt the books into film.
I'm so happy more of the sojourn will come soon if that's what he meant
It will. Very soon.
@@Spacedock awesome also did you get my comments in the video I send to you guys in the kinetic energy weaponry video you did like a few weeks or so ago? And if so what did you think?!
@@Spacedock hope you guys reply to what I said plz!!!!
I love the Alien series, but gotta admit, humans are stupider than a pinch of space dust. Especially the greedy ones.
I still don't understand why the corporation wants a violent, unstable, uncontrollable alien lifeforms as a weapon. For all the effort they went to, you could build whole armies of highly loyal robot soldiers who could do everything the Xenomorphs can, but without turning on their captors. The whole plot to the Alien franchise is moronic.
3500 by 700m and a crew of 49 ist so weird. At 2,45 quare kilometers, that's a population denstity of 20, putting it in South Sudan range. Where are the cleaners, maintenance personnel, flight crew and general staff? It is a research vessel, unlike the Nostromo or Sulaco, where most of the times was meant to be spend in cryosleep. This ship ins incredibly empty.
Probably maintained by the AI and a small army of maintenance bots.
No maintenance crew. Have you SEEN the inside of this ship? It's a mess. The only parts that look decent are the places people worked/lived, and even then...
@@pills- I was not (well not only) talking about that, but electricians, plumbers all those things. At this crew number a single crew member spraining their ankle in one of the almost always dark tunnels becomes a gigantic logistical issue. Now imagine one squad catching the flu or something, that would instantly rule out 20% of the entire crew.
But your point makes it even clearer just how understaffed this stupid ship is.
Excellent! I always liked the Betty and wanted more information on her.
"This piece of sh*t is even older than I am." -- Ripley 8
Oh hell yes, this is a great breakdown idea, the hardware from a very under-rated movie.
huh, Betty is basically a big dropship
with the giant articulating engines, I was assuming some kind of Tug
but yeah, dropship/supply ship makes sense
If you're in sol and able (theoretically) to aim the ship at anything... why not aim it at jupiter/saturn/venus/the moon.... because... you know... anyplace that might be a bit inhospitable to a creature like a xenomorph?
because they couldn't control the destination, the ship was programmed to return to earth if the crew was lost, the most they could do was increasing the speed to crash it
I think this movie came out before they invented "reshoots". No way they saw this movie before releasing it and said, "yep! That's perfect! No changes needed!"
I admit I haven't seen this movie, but why send it on a crash course for Earth? If they were trying to destroy it and its contents, why not kick it into a star or somewhere hypertoxic/inhospitable?
yeah, or send it into Jupiter where the gravity and pressure would crush anything
They weren't. They mention that the ship's core programming has a command that in a critical emergency, (like losing the entire crew) it'll autopilot back to Earth. If I remember right the best they could do was to alter that programming so that the ship would crash (killing all the xenomorphs aboard) instead of slipping into orbit. (Allowing them to be recovered and spread.)
(Watch the movie ;)
what i don't understand: they destroyed the Ship by Lithobreaking it to contain the Xenomoprh outbreak, but why Earth? Wouldn't the moon make more sense? or Venus or Jupiter even more so? Given that they apperantly in the Solarsystem anyway, but the Chance some could survive the reentry is shurely higher than on the barren Moon
The autopilot was set for earth, call altered the ship speed not the destination
They couldn't change the destination, so they just decided to slam it into the destination.
Love the design, the Reclaimer from Star Citizen definitely took inspiration with the hydraulic arm thrusters.
More Dead Space ships would be really nice tbh :)
Great review, by the way. As always 👌
I really never thought that FTL existed in the Alien universe, this was the first time I had heard about it
It did from the first movie. Had to, otherwise the Nostromo would have taken decades or centuries to get home. It was kinda slow for FTL, so trips took long enough that the crews opted for hibernation instead of staying awake through the whole trip, but it does have to be FTL.
They mention it a couple of times in the first (and maybe the second?) films. But it's never shown or there isn't anything to see when they're traveling.
Thanks for the content.
The 'Betty' and 'Serenity' look to have some things in common...
Liking the Space Osprey 👌🏻
If anyone is interested there is a great Chanel I subbed during covid, these two guys do fantastic alien commentaries and are incredibly funny. They discuss alien resurrection quite well with its style and make some good points about it. Val verde broadcasting but I wish the alien franchise did better then what we had with covenant.
so instead of the sun they set the ship course to earth
wow
You should cover the USG Ishimura
Great design.
Hey, can you review the green lantern interceptor spaceship in the green lantern animated series
Ah yEs. Armored betty.
Except a huge cockpit.
I swear I saw that ship design in some other series, I think a comic before Resurrection came out but I've never been able to place where
Ooh, Betty.
Bam-ba-lam.
i love this channel
Cobra Mk3 next?
Considering there's only one episode left for New Horizion (aka season 3) it may sooon be the right time to make a video on the Orville.
But what is the current state of the universe? Did data from the crashed ship get backed up? Were more aliens found? How about Ripley and crew, captured upon landing?
The people need answers!
I loved that ship.( the betty)
Wow, wow, wow.
Back up, did you say that the crew of the Betty aimed the UCM research ship full of Xeno's at Earth?!
Then why in Earth's name did Cameron decide to make prequels?! He could have picked up where Ripley 8 and friends left off with a whole bunch of Xeno's on Earth and one molding into a queen to begin their 'invasion' of Earth.
But then it becomes an action/war franchise and not horror. And 20th Century Fox (and Sigourney Weaver) was already fatigued trying to carry on the franchise.
...And now Disney owns it.
@@pills- Fair enough.
And Disney will only fuck it up anyway.
Star Wars is an example of what the mouse does to IP's it buys these days.
I refuse to acknowledge that this film exists. Totally Jossed up.
I would like to see a Curry class from Star Trek. You do good work
Dude, where's the rundown on the Red October?!?
finally one of a few ship's I like in alien s
Wow, quick rename on this episode. Was "Betty" sexier?
3,6km long ship and like 50 guys staff ? that sounds like a very large ship with nobody on it
❤betty & auriga
The movie which wanted to give the Alien Franchise one more try after the mess of Alien 3.
Every part of the Alien franchise was a mess. From the core plot to the repeated attempts to bring back Ripley. The only part that wasn't bad was the acting and special effects.
...And then so, so many spinoffs 😰
I wonder if we will get Sulaco or Endeavor
Do the starchaser from the animated movie starchaser: the legend of orin
What a ship. :)
Given it's supposed to be 200 years on from Alien, the technology hasn't changed that much. 200 years ago humans were using sailing ships.
My mind went to. Who is the worst.
The ones buying people to use as hosts or the those who catch and sell other people as slaves not knowing or caring what will happen.
Good thing we have aliens to put them in their place. They'll show the corporations how to TRULY exploit someone 😈
For this day forward you shall all refer to me as.....Betty....nahaaaaahaaahaaaa
vandread Ikazuchi
Absolutely love “The Betty” beautiful design.
Wow. That's pretty grim.
Um, are we sure that the Earth, any part of the Earth, was really the "Right" target?
The Alien ships used by humans never made sense to me. Gargantuan vessels with tiny crews......
So... I guess not much data or source material there is on those two ships...
Why’d they crash it into Earth!? Why not the moon or Mars or literally anything else
Sure, I'll give you my access code...
It's e-a t-m e 😆
I didn't like or hate that movie, but it had its moments.
What's burning?
US!
Oh, s---, you're right! (Both of them...AHHHH! )😁
thats thic and long lady tho.... and then only a crew of 50... its probably a skeleton crew and fully stocked there would be more there.... just dun makes much sense otherwise....
A skeleton crew kind of makes sense if you think about it. If the xenomorphs got lose, imagine trying to get 100's if not 1000's of people off the ship.
Probably to go with the dark over the top theme like 40K. The ship is one of the bigger ships in sci-fi just to be used as an experiment lab for 7 people. There is no reason that the alien containment even needed to be connected to the main habitated space.
It's a similar deal to the Sulaco, which was huge for how many people it carried. The Auriga maybe took it a bit too far though.
- hoojiwana from Spacedock
The Sulaco was also fully operated by an ai capable of creating and executing it's own missions according to Company directives. The Company (Weyland-Yutani) used these vessels for many purposes including colonial defence, resupply and full on space battles. Yes, the Company had quite a few enemies and the Sulaco alone spent many centuries doing all kinds of things. They (deep space vessels) are larger and more capable than it looks like it needs to be because they truly don't know what they'll find.
...why the hell would you try and destroy the ship by ramming it onto EARTH and not, like, I don't know, THE SUN!? I'm sure it's explained in the movie, it just seems like a weirdly bad idea
I see I’m not the only person who liked Alien Resurrection. It was an entertaining movie.
I still don’t know why they chose to launch it into earth and not the sun or Venus or even the moon would’ve been better anywhere but earth lol
We saw an Alien survive quite well in space at the end of ALIEN, so why would blasting cold air at a xenomorph discomfort it?
I thought it was liquid nitrogen?
We could probably come up with some reason pertaining to the alien's biology why liquid nitrogen would freeze it faster than radiating it's heat into space (maybe it's body seals shut when it closes it's mouth?)
But as a horror film, it's more effective not to know. And just say "because"
@@pills- apparently you don't actually freeze in space like you do on earth.
No water vapour outside your body so you don't get any ice crystals
@@sauceover A person won't freeze solid, but any part of the body that has moisture on/in it (skin, lungs, eyes) will get a bad case of something like frostbite because the water evaporates so fast.
yes, lets aim the ship full of highly dangerous aliens at EARTH... what could go wrong?
❤️👍
I’ve always had a soft spot for this Movie.
WHY????
yeah aim it at earth. great idea. next time set it for the sun
Alien Resurrection was the worse out of the Alien franchise and one of the reasons is that it reminded me too much of Firefly and it had too much comedy moments that messed up the atmosphere that past alien films did very well and that was pure terror.
I didnt know the Auriga was that damn big, and it is so hollow with such a small crew.
Also, why are alien-verse ships so damn ugly and dirty. Its not ok to have water leaks inside a star ship!
Il make the movie only if you kill me, then resurrect me and kill me again... - Ripley
I loved resurrection. I thought it got a lot of unwarranted hate. Yes, I know there is a flaw in the FTL/Earth scenario, but still. It nailed the vibe. Lots of action and beat the hell out of Aliens 3, or anything else that has come out since.
I've only watched the first two Alien films... why on God's Earth would they decide the best way to dispose of the ship and cloned aliens was to crash it into *Earth?!* I guess the risk was that the bad guys take the ship back and the cycle starts over again, but bringing it to Earth with even a 1% chance one Xenomorph survives... Jesus Christ.
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Oh yeah... I forgot how batshit that movie was...
Alien Resurrection was written by Joss Whedon, which is why it's the greatest film in the entire Alien franchise.
Alien: Resurrection was written by Joss "Such Witty Banter" Whedon, the utter hack. Which is why it's the worst film in the Alien franchise.
@@shandorno6305 (yawn) you're boring
@@shandorno6305 It's not the worst, but it's not even in the top ten list when it comes to the best Alien movies.
I can't tell if this is sarcasm or you're a true fan of Whedon. So I'm going to assume "sarcasm" and say Whedon should stick to TV shows.
@@pills- Nah. He should not "stick to TV shows."
He should stop writing altogether.
Seriously, his writing is terrible.
Cool video but that movie sucked.
hi @ all
oh sure, just drop it on Africa, they won't mind! fucking hell, lol...
I always thought they should have crashed it on Jurassic Park.
I enjoy "Aliens: Resurrection." The hate is unwarranted.
Probably the worst one of the original Alien franchise. This movie is so ugly and freakish, that it took the Alien movies into weird Fantasy territory!
I would say the humor trying to lighten the tone of the movie instead of doubling down on the grimdark hurt it more. The movies of Alien are meant to be ugly and disgusting, on multiple levels (not just physical, but emotional and logical as well). Ressurection was more of a gun-happy action flick with some gross-outs thrown in.
that movie was such beautiful trash.
Ah yes, the worst Alien movie. Or well, it was in the era before Prometheus
Covenant
@@alexprost7505 That's post Prometheus.
I hated this ship.
Joke of a ship, in a turd of a movie. Money grab. Plain and simple.