Mike Brown explains EXACTLY what happened between him and Ben Te'o
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- čas přidán 18. 04. 2022
- Former England full-back Mike Brown spoke to Jim Hamilton on Rugby Roots in a brilliant one-to-one interview. They Spoke openly about so many things, Mike spoke openly and honestly about an incident he had with former rugby international Ben Te'o. #RugbyRoots
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Good player Brown, always reliable and broke many a wallaby hearts over the years. Eddie did him wrong not selecting him
I never understood why Mike disappeared from the England team, I thought he was an excellent international full back.
Best defensive 15 we have had but attacking game was not his strong point. A great servant.
He was too slow for international FB but we have not had anything close to the stability he gave at the back.
@@mlguy8376 Agreed, however 15 has been a point of counter attack for some time. You have to have pace for an arcing run now due to stretching defences. Foden and Armatige were very good but brown had defence nailed down.
Slow, predictable, targeted by Rick mongrels to get easily turned over
Bah it makes the squad sound like a bunch of schoolboys. They’re young guys I know but not kids, and they’re getting well paid to be there. Can’t believe the whole thing’s that childish, Eddie included.
Professional sportsmen never grow out of that 16 year old mentality in the locker room , more mature outside I’m sure but when they’re together it sad (the cycling gk showed the same)
Eddies the worst
Ben has that reputation in Brisbane. A few years ago, he felt up a girl in a club, she walked away and started crying to her friends, who then confronted him.. and he acted innocent, then got angry and shoved that girl..
He ended up Down at the pokies a bit later, when he was confronted by a crew of island boys who found out what had happened later in the night lol... I remember clearing tables and watching him get slapped around before his friends came down and got slapped around also hahaha never saw him at the club again ... drunken bully
heard similar stories from worcester academy lads
He sounds like a mug. You would think he would show a bit of respect in camp especially when he is qualified on residency and been given the chance to represent the shirt. Seems like he just went to the highest bidder, saw a pic of him in an Irish jersey when he was playing for Leinster. Delighted he left. Clown.
Yeah heard those stories!
Listen to this mug 🤣🤣
@@raydenwins1071 surely players on residency will never have the passion or respect for the jersey that a native player has?
Mike. You were the best fullback in the country.If that's what Eddie did then it's a disgrace.Keep playing Mike. You're great.
@@benrichens6815 We had Furbank and he was awful playing for England and Daly wasn't better than Brown.
@@benrichens6815 Brown was easily the best full back in England. The probleM for him was that he played at the same time as Hogg, Halfpenny, Kearney and Williams who are/where all superior players. He was superb for England and hardly ever fucked up im Scottish and I loved him as a player.
Brown was Test level and his basics were absolutely watertight .. which is what you want. Furbank… no. He’s had chances and not been up to par. Steward now.. similar to browny
Good on yer Mike. Every time I watched Mike Brown he gave it 100%.
Disliked Brown when he played against Wales. But being honest it's because he was aggressive, passionate, and a really decent effective player.
Seems a good bloke.
One of our best players. How Jones is still there is mindboggling. His record is horrific.
He has the best win ratio of any England manager, problem is it was all pre 2019. Was terrible post WC
Lot of rugby lads still act like 16 year olds and play up after a few beers, years past all that bullshit behaviour should have ended. Nothing wrong with getting on the beers but doing all that rubbish is pathetic your a grown man, all that alpha slapping people and pushing buttons crap to get laughs on nights out can’t imagine anything worse than having to drink with lads like that
As an irish fan i always thought with Mike Brown in the england team we didnt have a chance against them. He was lethal. I didnt even know about that story. I couldnt understand why he was suddenly out of the team. Makes no sense. Not surprised by Eddie Jones being aggressive even with his own players though. EJ has always been a prick.
yh, i remember 2014 v Ireland he was everywhere and immaculate. Well deserved MotM.
Yeah, his defense was world class. He had that bit of niggle that made the fixture that bit sweeter.
always liked Mike Brown....he seemed to always make a break and go forward...I could see Eddie jumping on that and cutting hi
Love that this was filmed on the quayside!
Loved Mike brown in the England team . Wish he was 6 years younger and our present full back . Either way I wouldn’t acknowledge Ben teo as a england player but like to say a big thanks to brown for his great performances for our country . 👍
I’d take the present fullback (Freddie) over Brown every single day.
Ten out of ten Mr brown,u always stood out to me,all the best dude.
This explains a lot tbf...with leadership like that no wonder the players don't feel confident enough to bring their club form to the England set up. If my manager f'd and blinded at me for something that I didn't start he wouldn't be happy to how I react back.
Yeah, no wonder they can’t problem-solve during a game.
One of the best full backs England has ever had in my view
Explains why the England set up relatively underperforms. Lack of team spirit.
Certainty puts an interesting perspective on EJ’s often baffling selection choices and subsequent underperforming since RWC 2019. Also felt MB was a bit to much heads up for EJ.
If that was given as any kind of reason for him being dropped out of the squad that is shit. He was a borderline pick at the time and likely on the way out anyway but he's been a great servant to the national team over the years, very reliable, always put in a shift and had a spiky edge to him that often the rest of the team lacked in the early days. By the end it was time to move on for sure, but he was exactly the player and character we needed when we had him.
Nothing is ever Mike Brown's fault
Im confident you're an anti vaxxer 🤣
@@fomofud9479 Eh?!
@@verdej2057 you can read 🤣
Yes I can but your response makes no sense, completely irrelevant to anything.
@@verdej2057 are you an anti vaxxer?
Avoiding getting drunk can put you on the outer with team mates or lads you work with…they say don’t trust a guy who doesn’t drink and all that….when it comes to trimming work crews often the non drinkers are the first to be trimmed…alcohol and it’s associated problems can have far reaching effects
This is true, it's also a very weird standpoint. Almost as if they're threatened by individuals who don't feel the need to hide amongst the crowd and embarrass themselves under the influence of alcohol all with the hopes of 'fitting in'.
God forbid one doesn't wish to consume something that would be considered a Class A drug had it not been a deep component of society and part of many social norms for millenia.
💯
I can imagine when Eddie was on the phone to Mike that Mike wasn’t as softly spoken as he is now talking in retrospect!
Mike Brown has a chip on his shoulder, always angry… maybe he deserved a punch.
Exactly, look at the Chris Ashton interview with Jim, he accepted he made mistakes, Mike just keeps blaming people all the time
I’d be shocked if those accounts of events were entirely accurate
Top bloke
I would like to hear other players account of what happened. We are only getting one side. Are there more videos on this topic?
Only other account I know of is Te'os, and all he said was;
To be honest, I don’t think it was that big of a deal. When I woke up in the morning I didn’t think it was that big of a deal'
'I can’t really change who I am, and the way I am sometimes. You take the good with the bad'.
Even without hearing anyone else's version, Teo sounds guilty as sin. He's nasty, aggressive and evidently has a big ego issue.
Mike Brown was done dirty, could've easily blown the whole thing up and made a mockery of the whole England camp, some would've even pressed charges for assault. Despite all unjust shit he got from Eddie Jones, he prioritised Eddie Jones's own image as coach and said nothing.
@@OliCM3 Exactly. That's the type of thing a drunk says when they black out and beat their missus. Good riddance to the prick.
@@OliCM3 So, we can infer you like Brown and dislike Teo? Why else would you choose one person take over another.
@@MKRM27 Actually, I never used to like Brown that much and rated Teo highly...
Why wouldn't you side with Brown after hearing what both had to say?
@@OliCM3 thats not how it works, when he asked other players account that were there you spilled out hearsay😅. Come on buddy if its your opinion then talk it ove with Mike Brown, otherwise reference the fact that you're one of the players there on the night🤣
As an Irish man
I totally rated Mike Brown..
A solid solid FB .
Was Eddie mad ??
If Mike doesn't know his form at international level was far below his standard towards the end of his time in England then maybe he needs more time to reflect. Good to hear he's landed on his feet though, but come on Mike!
That’s exactly what he said in the interview… that his performances weren’t seen as good enough by EJ so he wasn’t selected
He clearly said he wasn’t good enough ability wise but Eddie just used this conflict as the excuse to drop him rather than tell him he’s not good enough. Cmon bro listen lol
The point is that he felt Eddie used the fight as a way to explain cutting Mike, when Mike would have preferred to be given a performance-based explanation.
Did this guy even watch the clip?
Mike Brown, what a player, what bloke. Give me a team full of Mike Browns any day. Tigers gave him a chance and he continues to pay them back in spades, proved himself as a player and a bloke. Eddie went on to prove himself, wouldn't trust him to coach the under 8's at my local club.
No backward step in Mike Brown, I just love watching him play, if anything he gets better.
I’m a wallabies fan , but if I see mike brown in the lineup I’m always worried this guy always brings problems
yh, i agree. One of his best string of games was the 3-0 series in Aus and he was one of those players that made the difference (along with Farrell, Ford, George & Nowell in peak form).
No problem IMHO. I don’t suppose that there are many rugby players at this level who have zero aggression in their DNA. Some can control it better than others I guess.
But you don’t hear of these that can’t control their aggression, getting aggressive with 6,6 18st locks, do you? They’re just bullies; and they are in control - just choose to be pricks
@@MKRM27 In my 61 years of experience I have noticed that the bigger and stronger a person is, the less likely they are to feel the need to “bully”. A generalisation I know but certainly not without merit.
Browny you were head and shoulders above the rest and the England fullbacks, so move on my man. The truth will out and he’s being found out. England are lagging behind without you.
If you know Polynesians, they are the nicest people on the planet, but get a few drinks into them and it's time to step back...
True, drinking problems can be quite prevelent within the community too. LIke you say it's weird because they're most often the kindest and softest folks when sober.
Not all
@@brandstefff all that drink
It's not about being Polynesian. It's the individual
I live in new New Zealand and I completely agree with this. One minute your having a beer with a poly then like a light switch they turn amd want to fight.
Childish behaviour from grown men. I remember watching Marler and Youngs on J Ross and being amazed at the lack of maturity.
It’s well known in team sports. Marler is funny, if your a giggling schoolboy.
Nothing wrong with a bit of immaturity, joking around & general horse play. But punching someone in the face, totally unprovoked is straight up neanderthal behaviour and should be A - taken very seriously and B - punished appropriately.
Marler and Youngs shouldn't be tarnished with the same brush as Ben Te'o.
@@OliCM3 I didn't think I had tarnished them with the same brush. I'm just amazed that this crap still goes on and I do think that the 'innocent horseplay' is juvenile and disrespectful. I don't agree with that in the workplace.
@@pnfcrac Calm down Eric Hitchmough!
@@pnfcrac The pub isn't their workplace, neither are chat shows. The pitch, the gym and the classroom is where they're paid to work and there's no Tomfoolery going on there.
Good old Eddie... you can certainly see that childish behaviour when he gets a question he doesn't like.
I was mates with Ben as a kid in NZ. We used to box with crappy old gloves and the garden hose as a ring. Il never forget the hiding he gave me after giving him a blood nose, haha good times.
Brown was / is a very good fullback. We have not successfully replaced our 15. Comments saying Brown is not an attacking fullback are simply laughable.
That’s shocking. What a disgrace some of those players are
He called him a coconut 🥥. I
Mike brown is so hard, he is bald by choice... hardest man in world rugby..
The more that comes out from the England camp the more I can’t stand Jones. He’s not as good as he thinks he is. He says he wants leaders but if you question anything your gone. No wonder the team panic if plan a doesn’t work as they are not allowed to play heads up rugby and think for themselves- how long has he got left on his contract ???
No one’s ever accused Eddie jones of being a nice fella
Maybe at a team bonding session you need to drink a bit more, or don’t drink at all…having 2 drinks mate, you’re hardly committed.
Brown was always a bit holier than though. Thought the world was out to get him on the pitch and felt robbed by not getting selected for the Lions. Even went to the media about it when he was never even linked. Think there is a bit more too it than this.
Mind you, hearing about Te'o during his time at Leinster. The squad were more than happy for him to move on
Delighted he didnt stay and qualify for Ireland. Contrast that with the example Bundee Aki sets out west.
@@raydenwins1071 yh agree, loved that he was there on that 2-year stint for Leinster but in hindsight glad he moved on & didn’t cause trouble there rather that other places..
Eddie Jones seems to be a bit of a bully but gets away with it because Rugby players are seen to be tough
Hated Mike Brown....but only because I'm Scottish. Great player.
I don’t even remember who Teo is!
a 2017 british & irish lion.
Being Welsh never liked Mike brown. But always gave a 100% in an England jersey to be fair
“Ohh I had 1 or 2 drinks” if you had 1 you say 1. Brown was obviously pissed and try’s to tell the story to make himself look innocent. Teo is a good guy
So true! Whether I'm with friends or workmates after a Saturday shift, I'll either have one or none and just have a soft drink, I won't say I had a couple I'll say I had one or none!
Just shows there is a pattern Mike leaves England they improve ,Mike leaves Quins they improve here's hoping he has the same effect on the Falcons
England have improved?
@@MorAodhan Beating the All Blacks and a world cup final isnt an improvement?
@@MrDavietoon well they didn't do that did they? They lost to South Africa in a World Cup final and it's been largely downhill since then (a few isolated performances aside). Also, it's not like Brown missed the entire season for Harlequins.
England haven’t improved, by any measure.
@@MentasmUK They've been plagued with injuries since that WC, and have actually beaten SA since. They also had a brilliant 6 nations when you consider 7 of their 1st choice players was out for injury, including the Captain.
England have really been up against it recently and shouldn't be written off. 2023 is going to be very exciting!
Ben Te'o works in the media now with the NRL and he does sound like a dibby dober trouble maker even as a commentator lol
What channel is he on, ive never seem him do a NRL game
@@jsh4bt sorry bras it's radio triple m Brisbane..him and that flop Ben dobber Dobben
Bloody hell Maro 🤣
meh, not surprised. Sometimes it’s the best of us who aren’t into drinks..
The more distant Eddie gets the more players talk and the less I like Eddie
Alex Goode lost his chance, Eddie loved a 15 who never passed.
good lord this sounds like so much drama haha hardly good vibes, just sounds corporate and lame.
maybe eddie thought you was not good enough mike no disrespect
Eddie isnt big on integrity
Men-children.
They should try doing a job where really important decisions have to be made.
Sound like over-indulged school kids
No surprises whatsoever re Ben Teo. He has done this all his life. Is basically a bully and a pest.
Eddie Jones picks whos a yes boy not on form or talent the quicker hes gone the better England will be
England has been better under Eddie than they have been for a long time
@@kye4216 🤣🤣🤣🤣 maybz on their day.. but no
It is just another small story in a long line of them from ol eddie, he will keep discontent inside a camp and keep pitting players against others with mind games. The guy is a tool, the Southern Hemisphere wouldn't give him a job but for some reason the North embrace.
Punkaz Aussies, Hardluck Mike.
Seems like a decent bloke being picked on by Eddie Jones.
I like that the 6 nations teams still take the 2nd tier players from NZ and Oz and give them a chance to play internationals
Wut
yh, true. They make them into class act professionals, like Bundee Aki, Jamison Gibson-Park & Paul Willemse
One side of the story
Let’s be honest….. Eddie needs moving on…..
Responsible adults ?
Unnecessary!
Disrespectful.....we need to get rid of this term. It allows too much ambigity, FFS let us reset. Let us become human again.
As an Irish lad, I used to hate Mike. He just seemed like the epitome of English arrogance. However, I realise it's completely unfair to judge a man without hearing him out, and he seems a very solid guy.
Also, when an English player is disliked, it usually just means they're extremely good.
yeh, like Farrell in the lead up to 2019 WC. untouchable
Eddie Jones , is a bully boy Oz …and pretty disrespectful to players and Journalists…..time for him to go . Starting to like Mike Brown , he’s pretty honest , and composed
I call bullshit
Mike Brown is a knob, anyone who has watched him on the pitch knows this. It sounds like Ben Teo and Maro Itoje are also knobs, who knew?
Yawn
English men acting like kids,who would have tought,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Put a sock in it Judith
The whole interview was Brown showing no insight, taking no responsibility and never asking what he might have done differently. Good riddance
Calm down Garfield
@@alexsaunders540 lmao
Holy smack rugby and a few beers 🍻 still the same at any level of rugby scuffles and a little niggle with players will always happen at socials or even rugby training its all part of the game
Thats why rugby is a great game.