The Destruction Of Carthage: Why Ancient Rome Feared Their Great Rival | Carthage | Timeline

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  • Carthage was Rome's equal, rival and almost her conqueror. In 146 BC Roman general Scipio destroyed the city of Carthage so painstakingly and utterly that not a single building was left standing.
    What did the Romans so fear about the Carthaginians that in the end they would be prompted to the most terrible acts of reprisal in the ancient world? A new archaeological dig by Dr Richard Miles of Cambridge University, penetrates the burned layer of this Roman holocaust and uncovers fresh evidence.
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  • @TimelineChannel
    @TimelineChannel  Před 4 lety +35

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    • @mamiamracha353
      @mamiamracha353 Před 4 lety +1

      There is a close battle that the Prophet Muhammad told us about is the battle of Dabiq, it is an area near the Levant in Palestine, where the battlefield will be between the Romans and Muslims. Romanians, Westerners or Easters, for example, are they currently from Europe, America or Russia, but according to the opinion of scholars and researchers, some agreed that what is meant is uncle from Russia and what proves this blame, they control the Middle East because the Islamic caliphate is not established to defend the Arabs and Muslims

    • @yolamontalvan9502
      @yolamontalvan9502 Před 4 lety +1

      It would have been cooled if the host was dressed up as a Roman soldier.

    • @heitoreduardodiasvieira7031
      @heitoreduardodiasvieira7031 Před 4 lety +1

      @Cornelia Fulmore 5t⁰

    • @michaelsolari7371
      @michaelsolari7371 Před 3 lety

      U

    • @michaelsolari7371
      @michaelsolari7371 Před 3 lety

      Uu

  • @hhattingh
    @hhattingh Před 4 lety +315

    When Rome said something needs to be destroyed they really meant it.

    • @yolamontalvan9502
      @yolamontalvan9502 Před 4 lety +8

      Donald Trump, the Death Cult President, is trying to do the same. Unfortunately for him, he’s in the wrong country.

    • @miguelpereira9859
      @miguelpereira9859 Před 4 lety +60

      @@yolamontalvan9502 You're a weirdo

    • @1994CPK
      @1994CPK Před 4 lety +58

      @@yolamontalvan9502 imagine thinking about trump 24/7. He's your whole life. Rent free

    • @yolamontalvan9502
      @yolamontalvan9502 Před 4 lety +10

      1994CPK - Trump is in the 6 o’clock news every day. Do you watch the news?

    • @1994CPK
      @1994CPK Před 4 lety +29

      @@yolamontalvan9502 never cable news, this isn't the 1960s anymore.

  • @ChannelRandomMy
    @ChannelRandomMy Před 3 lety +38

    I love how the phrase "Delenda est Carthago" is constantly switched around (i.e. Carthago delenda est) by historians. Everyone agrees Cato said it about one million times, but nobody can agree on what order this 3 word sentence goes in.

    • @reidmartin6209
      @reidmartin6209 Před 3 lety +13

      I might be wrong but I think Latin is a highly inflected language so it means the same thing no matter the order
      That being said, true

    • @user-ly4yp8ml2i
      @user-ly4yp8ml2i Před 7 měsíci +1

      Yeah I've wondered loads of times.

    • @charlesbyrneShowComments4all
      @charlesbyrneShowComments4all Před 4 měsíci +2

      I thought order didn't matter.

  • @meweaz3
    @meweaz3 Před 4 lety +15

    I can't get enough of Timeline on Rome. Well done

  • @malcolmmcintyre100
    @malcolmmcintyre100 Před 6 lety +676

    Someone needs to make a film series about the the Punic Wars.

    • @cejka30
      @cejka30 Před 5 lety +50

      Or Hannibal crossing the alps!

    • @joshlanier8567
      @joshlanier8567 Před 5 lety +10

      I think Sean Kingston should do the series. Last i heard he was at war.

    • @hrthrhs
      @hrthrhs Před 5 lety +19

      There is one. I watched it on youtube a couple years ago. If i come across it I'll holla.

    • @justevil100
      @justevil100 Před 5 lety +4

      @@hrthrhs Any luck locating it?

    • @uspatriots877
      @uspatriots877 Před 5 lety +6

      There is one

  • @arunanand2809
    @arunanand2809 Před 3 lety +18

    You love Carthaginians, you love history and your commentary is excellent. Thanks.

  • @aliencat8556
    @aliencat8556 Před 5 lety +485

    Why do you keep showing the statue of Constantine over and over again? He was born 500 years after the Punic wars

    • @raymonddeflaviis9532
      @raymonddeflaviis9532 Před 5 lety +60

      He is a millennial SJW. Everything he believes must be taken with a grain of salt.

    • @lonw.7016
      @lonw.7016 Před 4 lety +2

      Agree>!

    • @Insectoid_
      @Insectoid_ Před 4 lety +26

      Raymond DeFlaviis um. What

    • @overseer3072
      @overseer3072 Před 4 lety +1

      alien cat 😂

    • @StopFear
      @StopFear Před 4 lety +23

      @@raymonddeflaviis9532 Raymond, you are an ignorant cretin

  • @neotheresa
    @neotheresa Před 4 lety +19

    “This isn’t some schmuck in a flak jacket” is the *funniest* thing I’ve ever heard

  • @therealtoni
    @therealtoni Před 5 lety +35

    Love , love, love all the history I can find!

    • @daveyhouston
      @daveyhouston Před 4 lety +1

      Me too

    • @patriciacole8773
      @patriciacole8773 Před 4 lety

      I like the book “ The Great Controversy “ by e.g. White it’s from a religious perspective but covers before earth to eternity. Covers everything in between. It’s said to be in the White House and distributed widely to politicians and royals and as many people as possible. In my opinion it’s the best information known to mankind.

  • @nidhalben5001
    @nidhalben5001 Před 2 lety +39

    as a Tunisian I'm proud of my heritage and history , thank you for this

    • @inri247
      @inri247 Před 2 lety +4

      Carthage wasn't tunisian wdym

    • @barcak1912
      @barcak1912 Před 2 lety +17

      @@inri247 a significant part of Ancient Carthage is now in modern day Tunisia

    • @alikechiche9947
      @alikechiche9947 Před 2 lety +2

      @@inri247Carthage is Tunis 😅

    • @tameredanslederriere
      @tameredanslederriere Před 2 lety +2

      @@barcak1912 he is referring to the ethnicity of the people not the geography.. genetically speaking modern day lebanese is the closer you got to the carthaginians!

    • @wankawanka3053
      @wankawanka3053 Před 2 lety +4

      @@barcak1912 turks have a bunch of ancient greek stuff in their country so that suddenly makes them greek?

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    @LeviUlysses-mp5wg Před 5 lety +74

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      @carbonfibercrypto2919 Před 4 lety +3

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      @marcusaurelius3715 Před 4 lety

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    • @thathistoryiscoolguy
      @thathistoryiscoolguy Před 4 lety

      Imagine if morgz mad this video

    • @tonycunha1847
      @tonycunha1847 Před 4 lety

      I pay for CZcams. Cheap money. I barely watch TV though so I may have a different opinion than many on here.

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      @carlosmedina9708 Před 4 lety

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  • @philtanics1082
    @philtanics1082 Před 5 lety +21

    38:45 Boat named "Hannibal" , that's awesome.

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    @PeterWalkerHP16c Před 5 lety +167

    Each boat was marked
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    • @mamamarianovits9029
      @mamamarianovits9029 Před 5 lety +4

      Peter Walker
      I have finally reached that part of the presentation.. and I finally understand your comment, which I read as it started.😂

    • @spudwesth
      @spudwesth Před 5 lety

      No.

    • @maverikmiller6746
      @maverikmiller6746 Před 5 lety +2

      That joke cracked up me. Thanks man :)

    • @hueym.3950
      @hueym.3950 Před 4 lety +1

      Έλα άλλος ένας Έλληνας 🤭😂🇬🇷

    • @mamiamracha353
      @mamiamracha353 Před 4 lety

      There is a close battle that the Prophet Muhammad told us about is the battle of Dabiq, it is an area near the Levant in Palestine, where the battlefield will be between the Romans and Muslims. Romanians, Westerners or Easters, for example, are they currently from Europe, America or Russia, but according to the opinion of scholars and researchers, some agreed that what is meant is uncle from Russia and what proves this blame, they control the Middle East because the Islamic caliphate is not established to defend the Arabs and Muslims

  • @paulvmarks
    @paulvmarks Před 5 lety +52

    When Carthage failed to take over Sicily it signed its own long term Death Warrant - for without Sicily Carthage would lack population (farming citizen-soldier population). The move from a citizen army (mentioned by Aristotle - in the old days no one could vote in Carthage unless they had first undertaken military service), to a mercenary army that could defeat Rome in battles - but never, in the end, in a war. The Carthaginians had been appalled by their losses in the wars with the Greeks in Sicily - but, by trying to avoid losses (by turning away from a citizen-soldier culture) the Carthaginians made sure that, in the end, their losses would be TOTAL.
    Ironically the Romans themselves turned away from a culture of citizen soldiers - thus signing its own long term Death Warrant.

    • @Charlie-ii5rr
      @Charlie-ii5rr Před 3 lety +5

      That may be, but the disasters in the Cimbri wars exposed the weakness of the militia system and led to the Marian reforms.

    • @brohan914
      @brohan914 Před 2 lety +4

      @@Charlie-ii5rr Yup. Professionals will always be superior to citizen-soldiers. They key is keeping the generals loyal...

    • @Cleeon
      @Cleeon Před 2 měsíci

      But the problems with soldiers who work only as soldiers, their loyalty not always for the motherland or fatherland, but with who pay the salary and guarantee their or their family life, which is general or just who pay them handsomely.

  • @snoremans6248
    @snoremans6248 Před 3 lety +13

    Hannibal didn´t take Rome because he knew it would be impossible to subdue such a city with the army he had under his command. Even if he entered it the population was simply to big to effectively subdue.

  • @karenotte5420
    @karenotte5420 Před 4 lety +12

    I appreciate you and your passion and love for history thank you for doing this for us

  • @MrAbzu
    @MrAbzu Před 6 lety +607

    How anyone can talk about Hannibal in Italy without covering the battle of Cannae is beyond me.

    • @tonymullins6627
      @tonymullins6627 Před 5 lety +114

      Rome's worse defeat ever, about 60,000 killed (in one day of battle.) Hannibal was a military genius.

    • @keyboarddancers7751
      @keyboarddancers7751 Před 5 lety +88

      Best to watch this first: "Hannibal: The Man Who Hated Rome"; it's all there.

    • @jaroslavpenkava5525
      @jaroslavpenkava5525 Před 5 lety +6

      @Where Is Waldo My favorite, In time when beat Hanibal he been just 23 years old I thing.

    • @samray3297
      @samray3297 Před 5 lety +15

      Hannibal was Phoenician, from Carthage.

    • @jaroslavpenkava5525
      @jaroslavpenkava5525 Před 5 lety +5

      @@samray3297 Scipius Africanus

  • @bluesloverz
    @bluesloverz Před 2 lety +6

    Thank you, Dr. Miles. You brought the story to life.

  • @529wes
    @529wes Před 5 lety +47

    Timeline left out the influence of the ancient Greek colonies throughout the Mediterranean and their interaction with Rome and Italy as well as the Hellenistic influence on both Rome and Carthage. I was hoping to see a lot more in terms of Carthage's founding and early development.

  • @cheriefsadeksadek2108
    @cheriefsadeksadek2108 Před 4 lety +13

    4:43 Damn that sounds so cool It makes you sad about Carthage too

  • @duanemcclure8324
    @duanemcclure8324 Před 5 lety +6

    Thanks for the upload! I never really knew the history behind this. When it was mentioned in Gladiator, I never understood what it was about. Now I get it!

  • @darwinqpenaflorida3797
    @darwinqpenaflorida3797 Před 2 lety +10

    In 1996,almost 2,100 years of Punic Wars,a symbolic peace treaty was signed between the mayor of Rome and Tunis where Carthage was under a district jurisdiction marked the end of rivalry of 2 cities even it was changed on the time but also Italy and Tunisia are allies

    • @isaiahcalderon366
      @isaiahcalderon366 Před rokem +3

      So did Athens and Sparta 2,000+ years after the whole issue

    • @darwinqpenaflorida3797
      @darwinqpenaflorida3797 Před rokem +2

      @@isaiahcalderon366 Yes that same year a peace treaty was signed between the mayors of Athens and Sparta, both in modern day Greece 🇬🇷

  • @NathanHarrison7
    @NathanHarrison7 Před rokem +22

    Absolutely wonderful. Now only if all history lessons could be this informative and entertaining.

  • @Sybreed1986
    @Sybreed1986 Před 5 lety +8

    Love this series & love learning bout Rome, thank you for this documentary, keep it up :)

  • @laurelanne5071
    @laurelanne5071 Před 5 lety +497

    LMAO at the people in the comments saying this doc is "biased," that's the whole point -- traditionally we always get the Roman version, which is just as biased. Let the man tell the other side for once

    • @fuzzles9246
      @fuzzles9246 Před 5 lety +30

      yeah well everything this doc said is actually facts, yet people used to Roman version, but there was a roman governor of carthage after the war kinda liked carthage and said it was wrong to erase carthage from history, he revolted against his emperor and took his place, he orderd the reconstruction of carthage and to write down whats known about the original carthage yet the roman version is itselfe biased, but thanks to other civilizations like greece and others confirmed or denied the stories and who kept whats known about carthage. yet history is written by victors .

    • @tadhgknight3484
      @tadhgknight3484 Před 5 lety +3

      FEZZ_HH
      And that governed would’ve had flawed info as well, because to revolt against an emperor (not a republic) he’d had to of done it at least 100 years after Carthage’s erasion

    • @fuzzles9246
      @fuzzles9246 Před 5 lety +5

      @@tadhgknight3484 Exactly, Erasing something then trying to tell it with another way wont be the same, THEY even tried to rebuild Carthage and wasnt even close to the original one.

    • @lucasstemba
      @lucasstemba Před 5 lety +19

      I don't mind the bias but there are some bits where the bias borders on unfactual. I.e. calling rome imperial when rome was far from an empire and and calling Cato a xenophobe when I have never heard anything to support he cared about race.

    • @laurelanne5071
      @laurelanne5071 Před 5 lety +38

      @@lucasstemba xenophobia isn't about race, it's hating what is foreign. Imperialism, pure and simple, is invading other territories to profit from them as well as imposing your culture on the occupied areas, and that's what Rome was about since day 1.

  • @jdb47games
    @jdb47games Před 5 lety +63

    The current senate house was built a century after the Punic wars, so it is wrong to claim Cato spoke from those benches.

    • @davebox588
      @davebox588 Před 5 lety +5

      Yes, I think that's the Curia Julia that was started during Caesar's dictator years but not completed until after his death in 44 BCE. The previous one was nearly on the same spot though.

  • @spiritualanarchist8162
    @spiritualanarchist8162 Před 2 lety +77

    A bit simplistic. Rome as the evil thugs versus Carthago as the noble victim. At the end of the day they were two major powers fighting over the same territory.

    • @Cybernaut551
      @Cybernaut551 Před 8 měsíci +4

      I agree.

    • @parjanyashukla176
      @parjanyashukla176 Před 6 měsíci +6

      Carthage might have been imperialist as well, but Rome was no doubt a ruthless, savage empire. There is no comparison between the two.
      One is able to make this judgement only if you examine the world history in comparison, comparing and contrasting various societies.

    • @jonnyanderson8845
      @jonnyanderson8845 Před měsícem +2

      ​@@parjanyashukla176,Rome was remembered as ruthless only because they won all 3 wars, but what would have happened if they had lost? In Carthage, there was children sacrifice for the sake of the harvest, unlike the ancient Rome

    • @jrmckim
      @jrmckim Před 15 dny +1

      ​@@jonnyanderson8845Even without the Punic Wars, Rome was ruthless. Look at Gaul and Britain. Rome had no tolerance for religious or cultural freedoms. Unlike the Phoenician empire.
      A lot of what we know about child sacrifice came from Rome. Besides, what difference does it make since Rome deleted every Cartagena child in the end.

    • @IbrarH-sn3oy
      @IbrarH-sn3oy Před dnem

      ​@@jonnyanderson8845 Rome was barbaric

  • @perlefisker
    @perlefisker Před 3 lety +3

    Thank you for this.
    Very well-produced, indeed.

  • @RC-zr7lp
    @RC-zr7lp Před 8 měsíci +6

    "Carthage was the tutor who's feet Rome learned the art of Empire. So powerful it stood in the way of Rome's greatness." 5:50.
    Chills. Love this documentary!

  • @charjl96
    @charjl96 Před 5 lety +24

    I didn't know Robert Webb presented history docs

  • @Jack_Stafford
    @Jack_Stafford Před 4 lety +8

    Would it not have made sense for Carthage to see the writing on the wall, pledge allegiance to Rome and become a prosperous city-state within the Roman Empire? They could have kept their culture that way while also assimilating the best parts of Roman sophistication.
    No context at all is provided, I don't believe Rome would invest that much money and manpower to destroy a large city on another continent for no reason at all.

    • @seraphx26
      @seraphx26 Před 2 lety +3

      After two wars against Carthage the Romans realized the necessity of it's destruction, Rome had come to view it as an existential threat that could not be tolerated.
      How long after the scenario that you propose would it take for Carthage to rebuild and once again seize an opportunity to challenge Rome? there was room for only one dominant power in the mediterranean.

  • @johnsimpson4009
    @johnsimpson4009 Před rokem +3

    I really enjoyed this ... Very well done 👍

  • @undeadnightorc
    @undeadnightorc Před 3 lety +15

    A 15 year campaign in Rome. That's literally enough time for boys to grow up to become soldiers, more than enough time to create entire new armies consisting of a new generation of soldiers. Hannibal's own soldiers would have started to hit middle-age at the end of the Italian campaign. There was no way Hannibal was ever going to defeat Rome by himself after that length of time.

    • @randomhistoryfan5749
      @randomhistoryfan5749 Před 2 lety +1

      Thats right, technically after cannae, Hannibal suffered heavy losses and he calculated that even if hen tried sieging Rome another army would be assembled to end him for good. His men were very low on morale and exhausted, Rome just kept on sending armies, sadly even if we would make excuses, Carthage and Hannibal could not have winned the 2nd punic war.

    • @hydrolito
      @hydrolito Před 9 měsíci +1

      England and France had a war that lasted 116 years although called 100 year war.

    • @user-ly4yp8ml2i
      @user-ly4yp8ml2i Před 7 měsíci +1

      ​@@hydrolito😂❤

  • @echelonanglo2226
    @echelonanglo2226 Před 3 lety +23

    Lol this guy tells history this way:
    "Carthage were minding their business happily making money of their trade routes and singing along in camp fires, while suddenly, a greedy, violent evil monster without scruples rose up to steal and kill them all...a monster named...Rome!"

    • @D0wnshift
      @D0wnshift Před 2 lety +2

      Pretty much.

    • @johnjobs3027
      @johnjobs3027 Před 2 lety +8

      Another young white indoctrinated to loath western civilization and prop up any inferior culture or society as the greatest in history. It wasn't history, but rather cheerleading.

    • @matiusbond6052
      @matiusbond6052 Před 2 lety +1

      YES ROME WAS A MONSTER

    • @echelonanglo2226
      @echelonanglo2226 Před 2 lety +3

      @@matiusbond6052 just like any other civilization at the time by today standards...they were just better at it than the rest

    • @selena9527
      @selena9527 Před 2 lety

      Rome is monster cuz it ruined the all city and architects of carthage

  • @batbrain7295
    @batbrain7295 Před 4 lety +72

    And now let us switch over to the history experts in the comment section:

  • @learning.growing.1017
    @learning.growing.1017 Před 2 lety +20

    My 23andme test results line up with everything I've been studying about carthage and the Pheonicians. My last name is Cartagena, and as a Christian, I also learned about the dark practices of the Pheonicians, like Jezebel for example, and can tell that my ancestors may have also dabbled in dark practices. Learning all of this is so eye-opening and refreshing.

    • @bethbartlett5692
      @bethbartlett5692 Před rokem +3

      You understand that the Roman Emperor Constatine (the guy that established the Religion) and his Priests made edits to the texts and the Roman Religion isn't what Jesus/Yeshua was teaching + he was a Practicing Jew and a Rabbi.
      It takes the History of the era, and an open mind + time to explore.
      Just your choice, to be Religion or to search for what Jesus taught.
      Either way, as long as you have clarity, are positively supported by your beliefs, and realize your self worth, ✓
      Positive is absent of fear.
      Religion and then there's our personal, spiritual, experience and practice. Religion is organized and established by man, your spiritual is your direct link to God, Creator, Source of all.
      Take your time and trust your intuition and logic. Jesus will Guide you to what you seek, just ask and trust.
      😘

    • @98Zai
      @98Zai Před 10 měsíci +2

      Most of your ancestors lived long before Jesus was born. Whatever happened to your ancestors, they were doing the best the could with whatever tools they had. The reputation they received came from the people who stood to gain from it. People in those times loved to embellish themselves compared to "the others" - savages, barbarians etc. Carthaginians did the same to Rome.

  • @johndizo3551
    @johndizo3551 Před 6 lety +297

    Carthage still so salty

    • @WorkerBeesUnite
      @WorkerBeesUnite Před 5 lety +24

      I know. To this day you still can't even talk to one of them about it wink face

    • @ReasonAboveEverything
      @ReasonAboveEverything Před 5 lety +11

      golden shadow Well, from heavenly wealthy might that dominated the mediterranea to erased among civilisations. What would you expect.

    • @abrahamgarza537
      @abrahamgarza537 Před 5 lety +2

      🤣😂

    • @daveyhouston
      @daveyhouston Před 4 lety +1

      And peppery too but I prefer mustard

    • @mjhmab
      @mjhmab Před 4 lety +15

      I live in Carthage now and sometimes i think how would this place would be if they beat the romans .

  • @ccole5386
    @ccole5386 Před 4 lety +3

    What a wonderful channel and series of programs. I love the host as well, excellent voice and cadence.

  • @bobzdar9442
    @bobzdar9442 Před 6 lety +44

    That was great. Thank you. Your prononciation is also really good for my English practice.

    • @kevin6293
      @kevin6293 Před 4 lety +4

      The English don’t speak English correctly. Learn from north Americans.

    • @lucnilis6622
      @lucnilis6622 Před 4 lety +3

      @@kevin6293 lmaooooooo

    • @godfreybett1370
      @godfreybett1370 Před 3 lety +2

      @@kevin6293 😂😂😂

  • @zamzamazawarma928
    @zamzamazawarma928 Před 6 lety +173

    The Carthaginians were hated by the Greeks long before the Romans entered the scene. The Punic were seen as an evil race. Some of it comes from their (occasional) human sacrifices, which both the Romans and the Greeks had in disgust, but there's more. For example, sentencing your best general to crucifixion just because he's too popular with his mercenary troops after a victorious campaign in the name of Carthage. It happened more than once. Even the great Hannibal, he went to exile not because of the Romans but because the Carthaginian senate really were a crazy ungrateful untrustworthy bunch.
    Now that I think of it, I know of another crazy bunch like that: the Venitians. These merchant people just don't play by the rules.
    (I have great admiration for Carthage, I just like to play the devil's advocate.)

    • @hamilcarbarca946
      @hamilcarbarca946 Před 5 lety +19

      That is the romain misinformation ! for greeks you should read politics written by aristotle chapter 8. Carthaginians had war with greeks but olso treaties

    • @marypoppins2044
      @marypoppins2044 Před 5 lety +36

      "Occasional" human sacrifices? What about the 20,000 clay jars of burnt infants left behind in Carthage? Carthage was destroyed, but the Phoenicians had cities all over the Mediterranean coastlines. Then the Phoenician alphabet (modified) was in Rome. Then the Phoenician survivors fled to Venice and Genoa. Before they were known as Phoenicians, they lived in present-day Lebanon and we're called Caanites. Same folks, still no better behaved.

    • @isismccain915
      @isismccain915 Před 5 lety +26

      One of the nastiest things the Venetians ever did was pitching in on the capture of Constantinople in 1204 in what was supposed to be the 4th Crusade.
      They sacked & pillaged Constantinople of anything of value, much of it going to Venice where those golden horses (still on display in Venice) were given to the "dogie".......one of the biggest traitors ever to Western Civilization, right behind the No. 1 traitor.......big Nick Ducas of Byzantium (1071 AD).

    • @2serveand2protect
      @2serveand2protect Před 4 lety

      ..."fides punica"...

    • @XtoCee
      @XtoCee Před 4 lety +9

      It seems as if every foreign nation disliked the Phoenicians. The Ancient Israelites despised them, conquered them in Canaan (which was modern-day Israel/Palestine) and founded Israel.

  • @johnnunya5428
    @johnnunya5428 Před 5 lety +10

    I can't stop thinking of That Mitchell and Webb Look. He is constantly walking at the camera!

    • @Ligerpride
      @Ligerpride Před 3 lety

      Haha. Brilliant. Watch the football!!

  • @jameshanson4048
    @jameshanson4048 Před 5 lety +8

    Another Great video of the day! Imagine if the Senate had sent the seige equipment, Hannibal ordered?

  • @goodoldblighty7481
    @goodoldblighty7481 Před 3 lety +50

    Let this be a lesson for all empires,the elites are nearly always responsible for their empires downfall.

  • @gmcmurr0
    @gmcmurr0 Před 4 lety +1

    Great documentary, Jez!

  • @Earthspirit1147
    @Earthspirit1147 Před 4 lety +2

    Fascinating. Lots of detail I've heard nowhere else.
    I'll watch P1 and P2 more than once.

  • @arzuarzu2903
    @arzuarzu2903 Před 5 lety +29

    They needed photon cannons and Protoss Carriers to defend the city.

  • @BopWalk
    @BopWalk Před rokem +3

    This is why I treasure my Carthaginian coins. History of an Empire seen as an ultimate alternative history empire is very significant.

  • @stevecarte8520
    @stevecarte8520 Před rokem +1

    Absolutely fantastic documentary. Thank you

  • @kfernandes268
    @kfernandes268 Před 2 lety +1

    Superb video. Thank you..I've always wondered what was the true story.
    Well presented.

  • @DarkGlass824
    @DarkGlass824 Před 5 lety +8

    220 ships in just 45 days!?!?! That's incredible!

  • @mhintrepid
    @mhintrepid Před 6 lety +8

    A much-needed perspective beyond the warped historical version of the "victors" The forgotten stories of the vanquished must be heard if we are to understand humanity. This is a superb documentary.

  • @TheAto2000
    @TheAto2000 Před 5 lety +9

    I read about this when I was a kid(I was a fan of ancient Roman history), but forgot about it after all these nearly thirty years. It's an unfortunate part of history, and I still wonder why the Carthaginians deserved this punishment.

    • @user-ly4yp8ml2i
      @user-ly4yp8ml2i Před 7 měsíci +2

      According to historian Tristan Erwin in The Cults of Moloch and Baal--no I can't spoil it for you. But he gives the reason with lots of Roman references. Very interesting.

  • @AlexusMagnum
    @AlexusMagnum Před 3 lety

    Great work!

  • @KeithShuler
    @KeithShuler Před 5 lety +3

    Great program I just wish it was longer.

  • @Vicky-cq4lc
    @Vicky-cq4lc Před 4 lety +19

    Ads breaker....Forward till the end before play the video....
    Will only have 1 ads than playback the video....

    • @bobbiec6074
      @bobbiec6074 Před 4 lety +4

      Legend!

    • @dave9401
      @dave9401 Před 4 lety +1

      Do you mean click the replay button or move the time scroll back to the start? If this works youve saved me from many frustrations.

    • @Vicky-cq4lc
      @Vicky-cq4lc Před 4 lety +2

      @@dave9401 yup....
      Bt u'll get 1 add at the end....
      Hope it works well for u....

    • @kevin6293
      @kevin6293 Před 4 lety +3

      # Vicky, that wasn’t a yes or no question, lol.

    • @Vicky-cq4lc
      @Vicky-cq4lc Před 4 lety +1

      @@kevin6293 🙁

  • @clivedavies6794
    @clivedavies6794 Před 4 lety +1

    Really really good luv it, more please.

  • @Pulsonar
    @Pulsonar Před 4 lety +33

    Hannibal at Cannae?? I was staggered that for a presenter eager to tell the Carthaginian story he barely mentioned Hannibal’s incredible military supremacy in winning all battles in Europe including his total annihilation of the Romans at Cannae! It was arguably the most brilliant, and bloody victory by any military leader in the ancient world and ranks up there with Alexs victory against Darius at Guagemala and against Porus at Hydaspes. Hannibal’s only defeat was at Zama, supported by the treachery of his own people.

    • @lddcavalry
      @lddcavalry Před 3 lety +1

      Pulsonar This wasn’t written by a historian.

    • @morgothvikramaditya4977
      @morgothvikramaditya4977 Před 3 lety +1

      Porus didn’t lose to Alexander, that is a lie

    • @Pulsonar
      @Pulsonar Před 3 lety +2

      Morgoth The Real MVP Alexanders Macedonian army and Indian allies defeated King Porus in 326 BC at the Hydapses River. This is not propaganda it is fact, recorded in the Anabasis by some of the most famous historians in antiquity. Alexander was tested to the max and was nearly killed it that engagement, the closest he came to defeat in over a decade of conquest across Asia.

    • @giantgrowth4204
      @giantgrowth4204 Před 2 lety +3

      His calvary was godlike

    • @cantbanme792
      @cantbanme792 Před 2 lety +2

      there was a whole documentary on it, this one is about the fall.

  • @williammaddock9179
    @williammaddock9179 Před 2 lety +3

    You talk about murdered Carthaginians, but you don't mention that before that Carthage tried to wipe out and MURDER all of Rome.

  • @phaedrus000
    @phaedrus000 Před 6 lety +60

    When did Robert Webb start narrating documentaries?

    • @termeownator
      @termeownator Před 6 lety +16

      phaedrus000 Ha dude I was just thinking the same thing. Sounds exactly like him. I was imagining some weird hybrid of jez and Mark that had jez's voice and Mark's penchant for history... and this fella's face I guess

    • @BreadWinner330
      @BreadWinner330 Před 6 lety +2

      lol exactly

    • @marcokite
      @marcokite Před 5 lety +2

      exactly what i thought, they must be related

    • @billybragg2729
      @billybragg2729 Před 5 lety

      Haha..Dammit.. went through comments after implying same thing.

    • @liamsymes1
      @liamsymes1 Před 4 lety +3

      Mate i was looking for this comment 😂 he even sounds like him

  • @numberslettersstuff
    @numberslettersstuff Před 3 lety +1

    You are correct IMO. Great information and presentation.

  • @KittyKat6931
    @KittyKat6931 Před 7 lety +307

    As a Tunisian, it warms my heart to find such beautiful documentaries acknowledging the greatness of the Carthaginian civilisation. Great upload, you got yourselves a new subscriber! :)

    • @maxyakov273
      @maxyakov273 Před 7 lety +39

      It was great! But weren't they completely eradicated? If so, what is your connection to them?

    • @JoshuaAntonioLouisJacques
      @JoshuaAntonioLouisJacques Před 7 lety +58

      there is no connection....as usual trying to take credit for the real civilizations that preceeded them for eg persia,egypt etc

    • @triarii11
      @triarii11 Před 7 lety +12

      Tunisia's cool, of what I know.....Wisconsin USA.

    • @Alpha-xt6ow
      @Alpha-xt6ow Před 7 lety +29

      maxyakov she is more connected to them than you can ever be.

    • @KittyKat6931
      @KittyKat6931 Před 7 lety +61

      maxyakov If you paid attention to the documentary, it said that around 50,000 of them were spared and were enslaved by the romans. In any case, even if I'm not a direct descendant of the Carthaginians, they are still a big part of our history.
      JALJ3011 Wow, I never knew you were the official authority on "real civilizations".. I do believe historians and archeologists wouldn't be bothered studying a "fake civilization" now, would they? But I wonder how this "taking credit" you're talking about happens, even though the civilizations you mentioned took place year and miles away from the Carthage/Rome incident. Remember, we're talking about the west Mediterranean here.

  • @yaboyed5779
    @yaboyed5779 Před 2 lety +3

    Tell me this dude hates Rome without telling me he does

  • @Jaegertiger
    @Jaegertiger Před 4 lety +6

    D E V A S T A T E = Destroy to the uttermost.... this is the operative word that Rome deployed against the Carthaginians in order to annihilate them and assure that they would NEVER rebuild / re-populate Carthage. Not only did Rome destroy all of Carthage's buildings, but they sowed the soil with salt so Carthage could NOT grow any crops. Rome accomplished its survival purpose as demonstrated by the fact that there was never a 4th Punic War.... objective undeniably fulfilled.

  • @ChannelRandomMy
    @ChannelRandomMy Před 3 lety +2

    I was pretty luke warm about this guy until he bellowed "Delenda est Carthago, Carthage must be destroyed" with the echo, I felt that. 32:33 if you want to hear it again.

  • @reynoldgreenleaf6368
    @reynoldgreenleaf6368 Před 6 lety +8

    Interesting documentary, but it should be noted that Carthaginian civilization did not disappear with the destruction of Carthage itself. Many Punic cities survived long after the bloodshed and prospered under Roman rule while maintaining much of the culture of their Phoenician ancestors.

    • @sscxcc8053
      @sscxcc8053 Před 5 lety +1

      Exactly this is clear misinformation!

    • @tt3p9
      @tt3p9 Před 2 lety

      Yes it wasn't a genocidal attack to exterminate all Carthaginians.

    • @bilelmliki8475
      @bilelmliki8475 Před 2 lety

      We still breathing and we are here the carthaginians 🇹🇳🇹🇳

    • @Hborn
      @Hborn Před 2 lety

      How much was a slave there

  • @treblebat
    @treblebat Před 4 lety +5

    Why does the song at 4:43 hit so different?

  • @patb5266
    @patb5266 Před 6 lety +4

    Nice, Phillip Glass as part of soundtrack!!

  • @horsepower523
    @horsepower523 Před 3 měsíci

    Hannibal really took the meaning of "holding a grudge" to a whole new level when he marched with elephants from Spain all the way to Rome. That looks like a massive hike if you just look at the distance on a map, imagine how long and arduous it was in real life. And the ironic part of it is that in the end, after all that effort, Hannibal still didn't achieve anything significant in terms of inflicting any serious damage on Rome's power.

  • @4comment0nly76
    @4comment0nly76 Před 4 lety +1

    this is all overstated

  • @thatonecraftywitch1001
    @thatonecraftywitch1001 Před 4 lety +7

    Great documentary so far, very informative but can we talk about why no one has noticed that this narrator is absolutely gorgeous and his voice goes through my ears like liquid silk? I could listen to him talk forever. Can i have him? To read me old literature until i fall asleep every night?

  • @kippesnikkel5217
    @kippesnikkel5217 Před 6 lety +5

    Fire with fire. Carthage basically did a slaughter in Spain. They were conquering and destroying several Iberian tribes. One of those tribes were trade partners to the Roman republic and war followed. Hannibal showed the world Rome was mortal. Hannibal killed more people then the Romans did in Carthage. Two major wars and 1 smaller one and not to forget Hannibal aided the Seleucids in war against Rome. They destroyed the city. Which is a very normal choice for a republic of that strength and in that time.

    • @jason4275
      @jason4275 Před 5 lety

      They were both equally evil empires.

  • @perrycomeau2627
    @perrycomeau2627 Před 2 lety

    Thank you Dr. Miles.

  • @sdannecker6944
    @sdannecker6944 Před dnem

    thx. I enjoyed this.

  • @BattlestarDamocles
    @BattlestarDamocles Před 5 lety +9

    I love this doc, thank you!

  • @BListHistory
    @BListHistory Před 7 lety +16

    19:57 that's a lot of boats

  • @oussamax_1976
    @oussamax_1976 Před 3 lety +2

    i was in carthage the other day having a breakfast in the punic art cafe that it had a great view of carthags bay and i was imagining the invasion of the romans and the years of siege it was a mixed feeling of sadness and fantasy.....

  • @mitchmichaelcoburn1577

    Brilliant stuff.

  • @hannaheikkila3479
    @hannaheikkila3479 Před 5 lety +27

    Beautiful Tunisia 😍

  • @mouhamedslimeni7837
    @mouhamedslimeni7837 Před 3 lety +4

    Thank you Sir for this documentary
    I think it's would be interested to contact Mr. Karim Mokhtar he has many truth about Carthage

  • @JJmetaphysics
    @JJmetaphysics Před 3 lety

    I love you timeline !

  • @k1er4n544
    @k1er4n544 Před 7 lety +38

    yet another great upload thanks again :)

  • @johnnymcblaze
    @johnnymcblaze Před 3 lety +3

    Rome knew it's time was at an end, and its leaders saw that Carthage was becoming everything rome had failed to be. Their anger and jealousy now echo through the ages. And the lesson still stands today.

  • @magnuschristianssen8999
    @magnuschristianssen8999 Před 6 lety +6

    The Romans rebuilt Carthage as a colony and she eventaully became famous as a home of Christianity's most powerful bishops until (ironically) the Bishop of Rome superceeded the Bishop of Carthage. Check it. Carthage didn't just vanish.....she was moved and the city was renamed Tunis by the Arabs.

    • @hannibalbarca1801
      @hannibalbarca1801 Před rokem

      Carthage vanished when Muslims destroyed the city after conquest in the 7th Century

    • @wankawanka3053
      @wankawanka3053 Před rokem

      It ain't carthage without the Carthaginians

  • @HannahHäggAutisticTransWoman

    Hannibal at cannae 2 August 216 BC managed sourond and to slaughter over 67,000 Romans while hannibal only had about 50,000 in total. This made rome panic but when the Carthaginian fleet with supplies lost Hannibal had no choice but raid through Italy.
    But after a few more years Hannibal got called back home when the romans surprised Carthage with an army in africa on Carthaginian home land. But when the Roman army led by Publius Cornelius Scipio at the battle of zama 19:th of October 202 bc manged to defeat Hannibal. Hannibal got banished due to this and Carthage got forced to sign an unimaginable harsh treaty

  • @clutchcargo2419
    @clutchcargo2419 Před 5 lety +4

    Good presentation . narrator has great voice.

    • @dondressel4802
      @dondressel4802 Před 5 lety

      Clutch Cargo yes he’s perfect to narrate this video

  • @romandarius6041
    @romandarius6041 Před 4 lety +22

    Let me explain this Italian Style: You hit us, we hit back!

    • @TheCipheric
      @TheCipheric Před 4 lety +4

      Roman Darius didn’t see that style in world wars 🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @wankawanka3053
      @wankawanka3053 Před 2 lety

      Didn't work so well in ww2 for you

    • @romandarius6041
      @romandarius6041 Před 2 lety

      @@wankawanka3053 , Britain Won, right?
      So explain this: 1. Britain is still paying off the debt of World War 2. 2. Britain has lost all of their colonies! 3. Britain is now being colonized. (In 50 years, the British White People will be a minority in their own country, they are being replaced!)

  • @kenzothemystery
    @kenzothemystery Před 4 lety +2

    Love this channel, but WAY TOO MANY ADS!!!!!!!!

  • @loupiscanis9449
    @loupiscanis9449 Před 7 lety +1

    Thank you .

  • @donnie4393
    @donnie4393 Před 3 lety +4

    The Romans gave Carthage a choice of surrender. That no harm would fall upon them. But of course Carthage refused and the slaughter began...

  • @melissajackson79
    @melissajackson79 Před 5 lety +64

    You missed a few key details, after his first major victory, one of Hannable's allies insisted that he head right for Rome, use that victory to it's fullest and take Rome while its stunned and demoralized. Hannibal knew his limitations and that Rome had a huge wall around it, it was heavily fortified. When Rome finally defeated Hannibal they did not want to just kill him, Rome had a habit of parading their enemies through the streets and torturing them long before they kill them.

    • @gregoryglass9040
      @gregoryglass9040 Před 5 lety +5

      They didn't kill him

    • @Bazooka_Sharks
      @Bazooka_Sharks Před 4 lety +15

      He committed suicide before the romans could take care of him

    • @zimbabwean8719
      @zimbabwean8719 Před 3 lety +1

      @@Bazooka_Sharks where did he say they killed him?

    • @robertgiles9124
      @robertgiles9124 Před 2 lety

      @@Bazooka_Sharks No thry didn't ...He got away... FAKE NEWS there Joe.

    • @robertgiles9124
      @robertgiles9124 Před 2 lety +4

      Actually they often made Allies of those they defeated. You need to study more...it was a looooong Empire with many Leaders and results and "habits". .

  • @therrastrial
    @therrastrial Před 2 lety

    Love you Timeline

  • @user-ly4yp8ml2i
    @user-ly4yp8ml2i Před 7 měsíci +1

    44:49 "This is what it was all about:" Garum, garum, garum....😂

  • @robertjeal587
    @robertjeal587 Před 6 lety +14

    35:26 "As he unfurled his toga, out dropped ripe, juicy figs."

  • @Irish16King
    @Irish16King Před 5 lety +4

    Great video. This guys voice sounds just like that guy from the peep show. If you know you know

  • @Eazy-ERyder
    @Eazy-ERyder Před rokem

    I love these!

  • @inchworm9311
    @inchworm9311 Před 3 lety +2

    4:41 does anyone know the name of this music?
    It is awesome

  • @colourwheel5703
    @colourwheel5703 Před 4 lety +3

    His voice is nice to listen to. 🇨🇦

  • @sc0ttschannel
    @sc0ttschannel Před 3 lety +11

    'historians' need to stop offering their half baked moral commentary

    • @ancientbear3280
      @ancientbear3280 Před 3 lety +2

      The moral less often feign to have morals. Carthage had slave markets and sacrificed children. A bit of a moral oversight.

    • @altumurnemtzra2026
      @altumurnemtzra2026 Před 3 lety

      @@ancientbear3280 And rome imprisoned men women children and elder alike with hungry and irritated carnivores so they could watch them be devoured for fun.
      They also had slave markets, you'll find out that everyone did at the time.

  • @privatebandana
    @privatebandana Před 2 lety +3

    I don't like how you painted Carthage as some sort of innocent country and Rome as the horrible criminal, they were two powers fighting and doing bad things. But good documentary either way.

    • @tt3p9
      @tt3p9 Před 2 lety

      I totally agree with you

  • @CarlosMendez003
    @CarlosMendez003 Před 5 lety +9

    Thank god for CZcams where I can binge on stories of history and great civilizations from the past. I thought I was biggest history buff but looks like there are a lot of us out there. I've been watching a lot of documentaries on the Roman empire, American Revolution, French Revolution, Russian Revolution, Dark Ages, WWI and WWII (I like to jump around). I haven't even started on Greece, Egypt, and other ancient civilizations. So much to watch, so little time!! haha