Joyner Lucas Details His Beef With Logic | Everyday Struggle
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- čas přidán 7. 12. 2017
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On today's #EverydayStruggle, Joyner Lucas joined Joe Budden and DJ Akademiks to break down the rapper's issues with Logic and give a backstory to the entire situation.
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You can tell when budden said "nobody can keep up with tech n9ne" joyner was thinking "...maybe YOU can't"
Lol i was thinking the same thing
lmaooo
when he "nobody can keep up with Tech N9ne" I was like I can name few off the top of my head. Em, Krizz, and Twista to name a few.
@@MurkyWaters677 There's also Busta and Twisted
Heathcliff
Joyner- “I don’t take back anything I say”
8 months later on Lucky You “I don’t take back what I say, if I said it then I meant it” 👌
He had a plan
Dutch Van Der Linde TAHITI
JRad true
Fuck yeh
By the time this interview was done he may have already recorded his verse on lucky you 😂
CZcams recommended me this video right after playing ISIS
Lol mee tooo
Same
You mean ISIS?
ADHD is the album the song is ISIS
Dreaded_Pegasus yes, my bad 😄
who's watching this after ISIS dropped 😂
Me lol
Me
Hayden me! 😂😂😂
Me 10
Hayden meeee😂
Joyner is visibly irritated by Joe giving him this father/son talk
I was waiting for the "I'm not mad, I'm just disappointed"
But he listen to that shit and he respected that shit
Truth hurts
@@bigrob0061 especially from a washed up crackhead
He's worse than Charlemagne. Why is Joyner even giving this guy his time?
Joe acting like Dr. Phill lol
I said the same shit
He trying to switch the blame and hold Joyner accountable when he thought with his heart and not with his head. Honest mistake. Fuck Dr. Phil.
Was looking for this comment
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Looking like a crack smoking uncle Phill from fresh Prince
Moreso when he's the patient!
Props to Joyner for not knocking Joe out for putting his hand on him like that
I hate this interview so much, they won't even let him finish a sentence 🤦♂️
Facts
It's an interview?!? I thought it was just a talk.
@@gabethemonster an interview is... Just a talk?
Joyner told entire stories here.. what are you talking about?
@@giveherheadnotheadaches it was a joke. I thought that went without saying.
Joe looks like he's explaining shit to his son 😂😂
Joaquin Williams fr though 😭😂
Joaquin Williams Joe got that angry dad vibe.
Joaquin Williams he's the O.G. that's what he's supposed to do.
Joaquin Williams for real lmfao
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Why is budden talkin like he's some great philosopher
Hella hater
Its even gets me irritating
Cause he is... if you actually listen to what he has to say.
George Bell joe budden is one of the biggest haters around
He has the street PHD.
Who here:
After Joe Budden called logic “ One of the worst rappers ever” 🤦🏽♂️🤣💀💀💀
A.J. Abdullah yup lmao
Seems like the guy says the most outlandish shit just to stay relevant
Ryan’s Rides 916 😒
I mean the worst ever is a tad too far but...
He ain't far off tbh...
Everyone has a friend like Joe Budden, you just secretly wanna punch them in the face...
I have two
Then u really ain’t friends
Joe Budden talking like he's wise and intellectual. He sounds like he just walked out of a beating and is hiding the pain.
He talking like that so the shitty sound quality doesnt rape your speakers
Joe Budden is like a quickie, ain't nobody stay around his ugly ass.
Lol
😂😂
I bet hes smarter than you
There's two sides to every story, I wish I knew yours Logic.
I see what you doing there
I don't even need to know logics side this shit sound stupid
marie-cécile It fit didn't it?
Colin Pun we just don't know the whole story yet.
well theres must ba reason to why logic wont adress this?
“Sometimes people make mistakes, I was wrong about Logic, He’s a good dude. Bobby’s a good dude” -Joyner Lucas at Boston Calling 2019
Joyner Lucas is hella Intimidating in this, like high key
Logan Carrington I agree
More like Oprah
Thacker _ what?
It was meant to go on a different comment where someone said buddin tryin to be like Dr Phil. Sorry
Yeah he looked pissed as fuck. And he's not a small guy
Joe needs to shut up and quit touching Joyner 😂👀
@@nunyabusinessbitch2595 wee dough wee dough
Joe needs to go after Eminem ! U a pussy Joe 🤣
Broooo
I thought the beef was gonna go like “I’m more positive. no I’m more positive” 😂😂
Momodu Koroma 😭😭😭
😂😭
Joyner is positive?
SwiftC Onthebeat I
Im 90percent black...im 91 percent black...ur more white than me
Joyner looks pissed that joe was talking 😂😂😂😂
Joe talking to Joyner like a dissapointed dad asking his son how he could have done better/handled the situation next time
Can we give Complex money, so they can buy better mics ?
Busta on the real
could sell one of the fucking many tvs they have behind them
Or they just need to check levels before shooting so the audio isn't blown lol.
Wtfffff is was adjusting my speaker settings throughout the entire video thinkin it was me lmao
Busta not till they pay Joe and that’s over so no
This make me feel even more happy that Em dissed Joe.
Em straight shits on Budden. He signed him to slaughterhouse on shady records and he couldn't keep up. Em doesnt have a problem talking shit about him. Funny though, em and D12 use to have beef with Royce. And now he's the only one that can keep up with Slim
Those disses were trash, em is way better than that
Yes ✊
@@davidquinn7822 Eminem didn't take sides during the D12 Royce beef. He didn't want to lose any friends.
@@kabirrrrrrrr however Royce took offence to that and dissed Em due to the staying neutral BS instead of picking Right vs Wrong
I cannot stand Joe Budden!! Joyner is real and him and logic have killed that beef and made a hamburger 🤜🏼💥🤛🏿
Was this beef before ISIS?
Butterfly S yes
@@giovannisantangelo5071 I don't understand why Joyner is so bitter, he is a mixed guy too. I even thought he was Latino like me and he acts like a pure black man discriminating mixed people like him 😢
@@sandra3637 u sound dumb
@@sandra3637 race litterally had NOTHING to do what ANYTHING he said bruh
Back from da future to tell y'all that they're collaborating and the song is 🔥
ADHD #flames
👐🏻👐🏻
You're not from the future
@Josh Nelson wtf Logics part is amazing
*LEMME FINISH*
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F3AR Gaming thought i was watching tyler the creator for a second 😂
Sophie Cloutier interrupting his tantrum lmao
Joe looks depressed. Joyner looked like he was about to kill him for touching him too much
for real
Bartolo Roig lol Joyner saltiness is hilarious really Joe was keeping it real
Joe totally disrespected Joyner. He didn't listen to him at all. He interrupted him and disregarded the young man's thoughts. Just because he's older and probably wiser it doesn't mean Joyner's points were invalid. He put the kid completely in the wrong. Nobody wants to hear that lopsided kind of advice. At least show some compassion before shitting all over his decisions.
BertleMcGertle nah your bias or hate is showing Joe gave him real industry advice while still noting what Joyner was saying but in the end Joyner was kinda salty from the gate. Read between lines
@@damediaz9014 I'm not saying that Joe's point wasn't valid but he didn't acknowledge Joyner's at all. Sometimes mentorship involves listening not just speaking.
Joe is talking and touching Joyner like a grandma that is giving the “come to Jesus meeting” to you
All them time joe budden kept touching Joyner i could see how bad Joyner wanted to rock buddy shi
Aint Lucas a bitch, he probably liked his hand on him. Lucas just loud
@@andrewgoetz8144 what are you going on about
@@andrewgoetz8144 joyner ain't a bitch but he would look like the bad one if he hit joe at that moment
@@andrewgoetz8144 If you wanted to keep your reputation intact, you wouldn't punch Joe Budden.
A year later I'm seeing this. Oh my goodness. The good lord Himself has brought me back here to see this replies for some reason
Joe budden turned into a therapist lol
BlueValco he was speaking facts to joyner lol, but those were some wise words from a veteran like him
joe budden advice at the end was mad real, everything right
@@ghettoCAT19 this interview was before Kamikaze
@@ragu_sama6504 tech is though
"Oh, you opinionated, who you think you... Joe Budden?"
I’m here from that 😂
😂😂😂😂
Lmfao I love how Joe keeps saying “us” “us” “us” like he has or will ever be on the same level as Joyner lol
Lmaoooo Joe tryna stop AK from snitching
I started cringing mad hard when he started coming with that dry snitch on Russ... im like for fuck sakes Ak SHUT UP lol
U gotta thousand likes
LOL
I’m super late watching this but yes KingMobile, that’s definitely what’s what. And ScopeY, I did the exact same thing when I was watching it at the part.
Why Budden went Will Smith on his Speech...
Mohammed Islam stealin shxt lol
thats how he is
Why is budden talking like the grandma from “sing for me/I’m dying of thirst” by Kendrick Lamar.
Lollllllll
😂😂😂
Why Budden sounding like Dr. Phil 🤔
It's an everyday struggle for Complex to have good audio.
😂
Haise Sasaki fax
Hahahaga
Dude, distorted af
Who's here after Joyner Lucas ft. Logic - ISIS (ADHD)
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Joe is a walking contradiction
"Let's stop this male bashing party"
"What blame can Joyner take"
Let's take that advice for yourself joe.
This is the guy who is always bashing Em
Why is budden trying to talk like he in a ASMR video 🤣😂🤣😂
Hes not hes trying to match his voice as close to joyners as possible to try and hint for a feature..
He's probably already got sandwich breath
he's tryna match the audio quality
He trying to act like an old wise man, his bum ass is stupid as hell. He does not know what the fuck he talkin' bout.
Budden had me crying 😂😂 this dude went spiritual on us quick
When joe talks to joyner its like father talking to a son who doesnt care
How can anyone have beef with logic?
Logic is literally the nicest guy on the rap scene ever
Yes but you don't know what he's like off the mic, I can tell from the sentence you wrote you humble with certain ppl but you can be petty but I don't know that because on don't know how you are behind the screen 🤷♂
Joe burden trying to sound like Dr Phil
Joe's right. Don't get mad. It happened. Learn from where you fucked up and move on.
Nah fam. If someone bites and is openly stealing your material you need to expose them and let your stance be known. Fk taking it laying down or turning the other cheek.
Kiahree Ogles if you do that you gotta be prepared that people will try to defend themselves and might try to make you look bad. Whistleblowing doesn't work out for everyone that does it.
So why didn't Joe do that with the migos or tell Nadeska that after the russ shit? They weren't wrong in those cases either.
You didn't understand Joe. Joe was not saying he shouldn't feel the way he does. All he is saying is what happened to him is pretty much a formality in the industry. People steal, deceive and take credit for shit they don't even create. What Joyner has to understand is that you don't EVER put yourself in a position to be taken advantage of by playing snippets for the manager of a guy you don't care for. Joyner was finessed for his idea and that is a basic textbook move most managers pull on upcoming talent because they know the new guy will do anything and everything to get put on or generate a buzz. These guys in the industry are looking out for themselves and their inner circle. So as a individual, you must understand that some things are better left unsaid and that your content should remain confidential.
This has little or nothing to do with him having to suck it up (PAUSE) and "learn from it". It has to do with understanding the industry and not compromising yourself (in that manner) to begin with.
I disagree. So what if someone stole your shoe career? Just move on?
Budden must watch too much Dr. Phil. & Ben Stein 😂🤣
I need this beef squashed so I can hear some music collab. Two huge rappers who I have respect for, let's move past this shit and make something amazing
Your wish has been heard 😀
@@ronitpable5795 dude, I'm ecstatic Haha
LOL that shit look like Joe having a hard talk with his young son...
Joe makes a valid point this music industry is shady and always has been
Joe is not easy to get along with but he is a OG east coast rapper been around forever
Vladan Vukovic I agree even though he's underrated as a lyricist people mostly know him for pump it up and that's it
Yeah like wtf are you doing talkin to another rappers manager in the same industry as you talkin about your project ideas n shit like for all we know the manager didnt even tell logic where tf he got it from
Doc Kaos815 Beats making a murderer was 🔥
Doc Kaos815 Beats very wise
They jus burned the beef with the new track🔥😤🔥
Now joyner has a platinum record with logic lol
puttin logic in the thumbnail instead of lucas lmao
HDZ it gets more views bro. Facts
301 logic Joyner low key more popular than logic tho
E Money nah
Chrome _ ....yeah, it's literally a fact. More people know about Joyner
Chrome _ granted, they are pretty much the same. But Joyner is a bit more popular
Joe actin like a mediator 😂😂😂😭😭
Riiiight
• l • lol it’s cause they’re lyrical rappers
😂😂😂😂
All I know is this interview along with others shows exactly how important Joe Budden was to this show. Not only does he get my respect for his perspective on this situation but this was a good lesson even outside of the industry. Complex you all fucked up letting Joe go.
Not gonna lie if I pass you the aux and you throw on Joyner or Logic you gonna be walking
Mann the audio is all jacked up haha
That's just Joyners croaky asf voice
No it's not Joyners voice, it's audio clipping. It's really fucking bad.
Untitled rip x bruv
Joe Budden is a guy I love to hate because of his attitude. But I can't but lie, he makes a lot of sense, and showed me a different side of Joe.
i love joe
He went full Dr. Phil on this shit
Cus hes talking like the black skinny guy from 8 mile? dude, just talking with a slow, deep voice and smoking too much weed doesnt make your arguments better
@@JenemyOK His argument is pretty good tho
Who Else came here after JOYNER and LOGIC collab on ISIS?🔥🔥🔥
Glad they ended the Beef.
I understand that let me finish. Good shit💯
As he once said, "There are two sides to every story."
BasqueOblivion facts
Facts, I dont fuck with Joyner, I mean I'm not racist was fire but I feel he's very....what word should we use........ignorant, you dont talk bad about a fellow rapper that is very busy in his life, has more bars than you, better verses and a very powerful song that has changed many people. Why did he start shit when it was T's record? It was his decision to want logic and if he wanted logic that bad then he would wait, he talks about being corny about him not having the record as his number one priority but mean while he's over here still talking about when it's done and over with.
Artistically Kaylee idk if you're a man or not but men have huge egos. When you interact with another man there are generally boundaries you don't pass. Logic's manager or logic fk'd up there. Zero etiquette.
Dijone Ghost I'm not a man but I realize men have huge egos, I agree that there are boundaries that you don't go to. At the end of the day I feel They should forget about it and move on and love one another and spread positivity not negativity.
Artistically Kaylee that's true and idealistic. But if you're being realistic you understand he has emotions and feelings. So it's okay that he's hurt over what happened. And I he has moved on from it (based on his messages after this aired) but the media throws it everyone's face again and again.
Hey look there's audio 👏 good job Complex
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Who is here after listning to ISIS by Joyner Lucas and Logic! 🔥🔥
0:05 That cough tho 😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂Dad teaching his Son hahahahaaha
So Eminem makes a song with Joyner then a song with logic
This mic quality is making me depressed
Joyner looked a little too angry to absorb what Joe was saying. Hopefully he got some of it
Solomon Ikeachumba He might not absorb it that second, but Joyner is a smart dude. He'll watch the video again, and he'll understand and probably be embarrased about how he acted.
Desinence why would he be embarrassed for standing up to a scummy dude stealing his shit? he right, logic is overrated and obviously logics done this shit before. joyner got a right to be mad, someone stole his hard work. lesson learned, he shouldn't do it again, but bottom line is logic did something wrong, you can't blame the victim.
R. M. Its deeper than that. I agree that logic is awful, and should be called out for what he did, but Joyner is being too petty about the whole situation, letting it consume him. Hes my favorite rapper by far and I resoect him for standing up for himself but at some point he's got to listen when people are speaking.
Desinence Joyner isn't being petty he's mad because logic stole his idea before he could even release his song and people are thinking that Joyner stole it from logic. I even thought he stole it from logic at first
Black People joyner destroyed logic and tech. Not to mention, since he got signed logic hasn't been shit. Weak as hell.
Joyner look like he slowly reaching a breaking point with Joe
Me too
Joe was a real one for that last conversation
I'm a huge fan of Joyner and logic! Their music is life saving. Both of them are amazing artists! they don't just rap, they tell a story that's so real. their music saves lives. I think they should work together cuz that'll be dope af!!
Joe budden is trying to be oprah
Joeprah Budden
honestly joe budden is such a dickhead
lmao
More like Dr. Phil
Hahaha killed it
Joyner lookin bout mad as hell that joe keeps touching him
He got that "pause" look in his eyes
He's asking questions and then when joyner answers he's like ✋🏽*Stop*
Who is here after logic and joyner collab?
Jannes Schnitzer this true?
Ste Roe cmon man listen to isis
Delicious-Taco23 Isis wasn’t released when I commented
Ste Roe super sorry
Ste Roe it was with tech n9ne I forgot the song
Budden's keeping his cool for once, cause he knows if he's going mad Joyner collabs with Em again dissing him 😂
Can Budden please stop touching Joyner?:D
vladimir putin I’ve said this for 5 months now. He sus.
That's Hood psychology it's the type of s*** n***** do to you to try and sinal who's boss. I like Joe and Joyner but Joyner should've swipe that n****'s hand off his s*** like yo n**** don't touch me no more. Or at least ask it's there a reason you keep touching me fam?
vladimir putin
TheBkdot just say nigga
Why did budden just quote tip like joyner don't know the mofo 4,080 rule??? Smdh he monopolizing the whole interview!
Joe touching Joyner way to much.
Michael Velasco if Joyner does not mind you should not either okurrrr
@@cuemayhem1121 Haha You can tell the whole time he wants to slap the fuck out of Joe.
@@michaelvelasco4021 facts!
TOO MUCH....
How is he gonna say tech n9ne is one of the best MC in the universe yet he doesnt like eminem lmao wut
Cause Budden is a big ass hater.. And claims Eminem is wack cause he’s white and don’t belong in the rap game. Him and Akademiks.. But, Eminem will body Joe in a battle and real record sales. #TrueFacts. Budden is just mad cause his rap career is been over since Pump It Up lol
It’s cause he’s racist
@@angelobabys2k Joe has never said that...ever 😂 Joe is ACTUALLY a huge Eminem stan. Refer to his song Slaughtermouse which was essentially a love letter to Eminem. He didn't like the way Eminem handled Slaighterhouse when they were on Shady Records, and believes Eminem's content isn't what it used to be. But that was in 2016. He's been praising Eminem alot as of late. Also, Eminem wouldn't body Joe. It wouldn't happen. Joe may not get the better of Eminem lyrically, but Joe would give him a serious run for his money. You've clearly never heard a Joe record. Disregard Pump it Up and listen to Joe's mixtapes, the Love Lost trilogy and Rage and the Machine. Joe was a SPECTACULAR rapper before he got into media.
@@JoKiR90 It was supposed to be a diss
@@akcalbumreviews3719 Who says that? If you heard the song you would know that it's in no way a diss.
10:11 Joyner had that "You got one more time to touch me" glare 😂😂😂
Joyner Lucas got low-key barked on by Joe Budden lol
Yeah he scared tf out of me 😨
Patrick felton lol
Joe's so fucking cool. The way he didn't speak until he heard the whole of Joyner's story. Fucking dope guy.
James. Hearing but not really listening.
Vice Esteem aha his musics awful though...
Yeah, thats what a real adult does. Not like half the coments of people on thos video...
It's better than Ak trying to cut him off every 5th word.
im tryna find out where he got that jacket from that shit clean lol
Logic may have became inspired by Joyner's suicide record. Joyner should be featured on Ultra 85.
Bro Logic was working on his Everybody album before Bobby Tarantino was even released!! There was a snippet of Africaayn in one of his songs so don't give me that nonsense!!!
tell em please
He obviously doesn’t know that. Logic had this shit made up for so long already.
He’s making a stretch.. idk why he’s acting like that.
6 MONTHS!!!! to respond 🙄 ok sure it's fine
Sounds like some "I called shotgun! No, I called it first! You just didn't hear me." type bullshit. When you steal you have to cover your fucking tracks or you could get sued into poverty, so of course he was "already working on it." 😂😂
but...why the audio quality so trash tho
I was thinking the same thing.
Had to raise up the volume to hear what he's saying.
shitty mics i guess
nah it’s his voice
It's Joe Budden voice, when Akademiks or Joyner talk it's okay
Joyner.... keep being you g.. as humble as you can be.. love you music coming from a local.. your shit is real shit.. love your tracks g.. looking for more
I was already getting the vibes but I finally had to dip out on this therapy session @ 9:35
"Answer it when you go to bed at night" 😂😂😂
he’s like his dad lmao
"Don't answer. Answer that when you go to bed at night."😂😂😂😂
you must be new to hip hop
TheDonutlover3000 he was trying to help him so he was saying dont answer it now think about it and answer it when you to bed
Joe Budden is a yes man
Is this an interview or Joyner’s therapists???😂😂 “think about that when you go to bed tonight” they preaching
Never expected them to collab after this. Pff that shit was 🔥🔥🔥
Lmao Budden getting his head ripped off in all these comments 😭😭😂😂😂
He deserves it for acting like he knows everything. He was being mad condescending to Joyner putting his hand on his shoulder and giving him some type of lecture.
Joe with the life lesson. Respect.
Ros Quilliam real shit 😂 but nahh i think this dude just don't want some of the realest rappers in the game right now beefing on some small shit.
Why is joe Budden talking like FRANK from Shameless in this LMAO
"how much accountability you put on yourself?" "... Far as what?"
Joe Budden talking like he’s someone of high stature. That man is an L.
Regardless of who he is or what he has done, good advice is good advice. You can learn something from a criminal on death row. That was a great tidbit of mentorship for people who want long-term careers.
Who else want it, Kells?
Attempt fails, Budden, L's
Fuckin' nails in these coffins as soft as Cottonelle
thats exactly why he's the right person to tell Joyner Lucas what he told him...
cant buy that kind of advice ask me...
hahahah this comment was so fucking funny
I take back my comment. Joe's comment to Joyner was A+ advice. I am now ashamed to contribute to a thief by buying Logic's album.
Out of topic but why are lil pumps concerts 18+ but lil pump is 17 🤷♀️😂😂
Idk, Why are you stealing jokes from other people
Tripzz they’re not 18 & up and if it is 18+ it’s probably because he smokes weed at his concerts sometimes. Little kids dead ass go to his concerts so he has to put it 18+.
Stop stealing jokes
Tripzz hahah
Kid stop stealing meme
Love to Joyner for the t he is wearing Prodigy is one of the greatest that will never get the credit he deserves
Why Joe Budden talking like he is Denzel Washington now?
Why are two of the good guys beefing? Both of these artist are on the right side of hip hop so they shud be collaberating to help the hip hop youth cuz they really could
My thoughts exactly. Squash the shit and make some records. Shit a collab album would erupt this world. Hate to see these guys hate each other over assumptions. Yall r both fucking super talented. And are way better then all these new rappers. 💯💯
Kirk Sundstrom recently Eminem did a show in Hawaii with Logic and Sheck Wes and a lot of people theorized that Em was trying to play mediator in this ridiculous beef between the two because of the recent collaborations with both. The beef never had substance to it in the first place. Definitely think most beef these days in the rap industry is just petty BS. Lots of Sneak dissing and shit and it’s ridiculous. They could create so much better projects and music if Joyner and Logic actually worked through this
SuperRavensfan101 the “beef” is only with Joyner. He named dropped him like 4 times and clearly by this video does not like him. He literally assumed that logic didn’t want him on techs song. If anybody should be mad then it’s tech.
Nigga rap ain't just mumble vs lyricists. It's not red vs blue. It's really a battle Royale. Anybody can get the smoke. But right now with mumble rappers being a thing, lyricists all have a common enemy cause their shit is garbage. That don't mean the competition between lyricists is gonna stop.
Joyner likes to beef it would seem
Joe actually came with it, lol