Should you let a Diesel Engine Cool Down?

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  • In this video we discuss whether you should let a Diesel Engine cool down before shutting it down. How long should you let the engine cool down and what parts can get damaged by not cooling it down. Thanks for watching.
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  • @boogieman3165
    @boogieman3165 Před 3 lety +84

    I guess that's why I got a million one twenty five out of the original turbo on my 3406E. The only reason I replaced it was because it came with the engine rebuild kit I bought. I am a firm believer in letting the engine cool down before shutting it off. In my opinion this is one of the most important videos on diesel engines ever produced. Thumbs up.

    • @teenaramsay2469
      @teenaramsay2469 Před 3 lety +6

      Turbo timers...set and forget. automatically idles engine after "key off and out" for 1, 3 or 5 minutes (selectable) and that's for a cheap unit...

    • @phalanx3803
      @phalanx3803 Před 3 lety

      @@teenaramsay2469 i got a new one only $30 can set the time from 10 sec to 10 mins in 10 sec intervals even has a warm up and auto mode (the longer the engine runs the longer the shut down time is) i just have mine set at 3 mins or on 10 if its a hot day and i am gong in to a shop for a few mins so when i come out the AC is still going.

  • @evil_me
    @evil_me Před 3 lety +89

    In the Army we had so many problems with the turbos getting coked up from running hard and just shutting off right away.

    • @robertphillips3154
      @robertphillips3154 Před 3 lety +6

      Still do here at Carson

    • @evil_me
      @evil_me Před 3 lety +7

      @@robertphillips3154 I couldn't get anyone to actually PMCS anything let alone read a 10 manual for the truck.... And guess who was the first one to be blamed for the issues lol!

    • @briantruck2284
      @briantruck2284 Před 3 lety +1

      🤔

    • @Sam590ss
      @Sam590ss Před 3 lety +6

      I guess it doesn't matter when you're not paying the repair bill.

    • @zappazgaming7453
      @zappazgaming7453 Před 3 lety +1

      6.5l's?

  • @chasebh89
    @chasebh89 Před 3 lety +37

    when you work hard you get sweaty, you dont want to go to bed sweaty so you take some time to relax

    • @johndowe7003
      @johndowe7003 Před 3 lety +5

      unless youre a animal and go to bed still sweaty and and in work boots lol

    • @johndowe7003
      @johndowe7003 Před 2 lety +1

      @@user-ie4kp7ni9d I ain't ashamed to say I've done it lol 16hr days and 5hrs of sleep will.do that to ya

    • @johndowe7003
      @johndowe7003 Před 2 lety

      @@user-ie4kp7ni9d you working in the oilfield?

  • @henryharrison3988
    @henryharrison3988 Před 3 lety +193

    This guy should be in a college teaching students how to become Real Diesel mechanic.

    • @markm0000
      @markm0000 Před 3 lety +39

      That would be a waste of potential. I’d rather him upload videos like this where thousands of people and students can learn all over the world.

    • @henryharrison3988
      @henryharrison3988 Před 3 lety +15

      @@markm0000 he deserves more money than what CZcams is putting out.

    • @coolwater9315
      @coolwater9315 Před 3 lety +5

      @@markm0000 I'm sure he would do both sheesh...

    • @PoliticalGangster
      @PoliticalGangster Před 3 lety +2

      Easy with the ass kissing

    • @terrydavis6132
      @terrydavis6132 Před 3 lety +2

      @@PoliticalGangster haha it was worse than ass kissing , it was out right ass sucking haha

  • @cullenmiller8170
    @cullenmiller8170 Před 3 lety +52

    When I would shut down in the evening I took it easy on the truck before stopping. After parking it I let it idle during my walk around to cool down. I always loved the guys that reved the engine up and than shut it down. They just spooled the turbo up and than stopped the oil flow to lubricate it. I owned the truck and wasn’t just a steering wheel holder.

    • @greg9403
      @greg9403 Před 3 lety +9

      If you got no skin in the game. You could care less about the truck.

    • @hudsonhawk0016
      @hudsonhawk0016 Před 3 lety +11

      I cringe every time I see that. You can actually hear the turbo continue to spin with no oil going to it.

    • @linogarcia2478
      @linogarcia2478 Před 3 lety +5

      I have a 1983 280zx turbo and for the last 35 years I let it idle for 5 minutes after a long run because of the turbo. No turbo problems yet.

    • @Ry_Guy
      @Ry_Guy Před rokem +1

      @@hudsonhawk0016 I let my 2nd gen ram cummins sit at idle for a minute before turning it off and the turbo still spins for about 5 - 10 seconds after, I always wondered how much oil gets pushed out of the journal bearings in that time, nothing more I can do about it anyway. I will admit that it does sound kind of cool lol

  • @raylamp4505
    @raylamp4505 Před 3 lety +16

    Turbo timers work. Even a turbo gas engine needs to spool down. From a retired mopar flat rate dealership tech. I replaced a lot of turbos due this especially the garrets.

    • @H33t3Speaks
      @H33t3Speaks Před 3 lety +2

      I always have a 5min cool down on my TFSI. Can’t believe this isn’t common knowledge.

  • @landerson1012
    @landerson1012 Před 3 lety +47

    FINALLY, someone who could explain the reasons for cool down periods even though it was something I always did on the farm. I've been asked before but no direct answer to give. I felt like the guy in the destruction of the week.😱
    Your knowledge at your age is explicit and well appreciated. I can see why you get promoted. Good job!

    • @adamfpv8294
      @adamfpv8294 Před 3 lety +5

      Agreed, I see so many people on CZcams that don’t let their engine cool down🤦‍♂️

    • @eddieweigel9490
      @eddieweigel9490 Před rokem +1

      It’s so you don’t coke the turbo bearings

  • @BrodieBr0
    @BrodieBr0 Před 3 lety +10

    Great tips here to help no matter what diesel engine you have last much longer. Install a pyrometer if you don't have one...they're engine life savers for letting you know when to dial back when the engine is under heavy load.

  • @codyhickman7335
    @codyhickman7335 Před 3 lety +1

    Got yourself a new subscriber. 15yrs ago when I was in the rice fields, boss man was big on letting the tractors idle for 8-10 minutes. We worked them hard, small time farmer. Old Versatile had 14,000hrs on it with no major engine repairs when it got sold to South America. My old 12v I let idle for bout 20 seconds or so. But I have a long driveway I idle down in 3rd gear getting to the house. And she ain't my tow pig.

  • @stephenjackman6163
    @stephenjackman6163 Před 3 lety +6

    Always a great Presentation, thanks !

  • @mikegstinson1882
    @mikegstinson1882 Před 3 lety

    glad to see you're back; great content

  • @johngoldsmith6629
    @johngoldsmith6629 Před 3 lety +4

    What I would like to see is a three part series. Explaining to your audience Hydro-mechanical timing advance and how it works and why you leave those screws alone up front. Mechanical governors and how they work. Lastly the main fuel pump on a NSFS and how it works, and the importance of those little clamps and brackets on those fuel injection lines.

  • @ronaldtemplin2290
    @ronaldtemplin2290 Před 2 lety

    Now you have 175,AND1 subscribers, on a more serious note. Good down to earth explanation of what we should do to cool the engine down at the end of a haul...

  • @Nathan-pw7do
    @Nathan-pw7do Před 3 lety +2

    Great video👍 I always wished I could get my guys to understand this when I was still doing construction work

  • @patserra9506
    @patserra9506 Před 3 lety +8

    Thanks for the explanation!! Several months ago as a newbie, my C7 overheated and stupid me shut it off. Luckily, I took my head out of my *ss and re-started and watched the temp go down. Learned a lot that day and this confirms I got lucky. No major issues thankfully. Great video as always!!

    • @teenaramsay2469
      @teenaramsay2469 Před 3 lety +2

      Turbo timers...set and forget. automatically idles engine after "key off and out" for 1, 3 or 5 minutes (selectable) and that's for a cheap unit...

  • @davidscott5903
    @davidscott5903 Před 3 lety +7

    One other thing, if you have hot spots that are close to boiling, those areas will scale up if there's any minerals in your cooling system, and if scale buildup occurs then it insulates those areas from the coolant which in turn lets them get hotter and could cause damage. That is also why you don't use tap water to mix with your antifreeze.

  • @stormyweather9054
    @stormyweather9054 Před 3 lety +2

    Thanks -Nicely done Josh well presented & explained . Down here in Southwest TX. heat is a much bigger factor than the cold . I tend to "high idle" ( 700-1000 rpm) my Cats
    for 15 to 20 minutes then slow idle 400-500 rpm for another 3-5 minutes . This is on a day w/ ambient air temperature @ or above 110 degrees & heavy loaded .

  • @georgeof78
    @georgeof78 Před 3 lety

    Good video. I always knew to let the engine cool for 5 minutes because during my cdl driving test the instructor got on me for shutting down immediately and explained how scalding hot the turbo is and how the oil will leave a residue on the bearings. I use that 5 minutes to do paperwork and or fuel the truck for the next day. Depending on if I'm over the road or local. 5 minutes is a blink in trucking.

  • @blueeyes8673
    @blueeyes8673 Před 3 lety +1

    First the Goat was wonderful. I shut my 3406E down only after the pyro gets to 300 never before. Keep up the great work I enjoy your videos

  • @FlatPlaneCranky
    @FlatPlaneCranky Před 3 lety +1

    Great info. Thanks for sharing!

  • @Thatoilfieldmechanic
    @Thatoilfieldmechanic Před 3 lety +3

    All new cat machines have a engine delayed shutdown after hard load so this makes perfect sense , amazing video I enjoy watching your videos sir

  • @J.R.in_WV
    @J.R.in_WV Před 2 lety +4

    I was always told to let any turbocharged diesel idle for 5-10 minutes after a full day of running the truck and always have. The reason I've always gotten is the turbo and it's shaft bearings will be so hot if you just shut it off it'll actually bake the oil into sludge because it's no longer flowing, just sitting there baking. Glad to see this is actually true.

    • @lynnnewby4530
      @lynnnewby4530 Před rokem +1

      I seen turbos blow oil from not letting them cool down

  • @grigorirasputin996
    @grigorirasputin996 Před 3 lety +35

    Turbo timers should be factory install.

    • @tupapisoyyo676
      @tupapisoyyo676 Před 3 lety +6

      Less revenue for dealers

    • @BaberJacks
      @BaberJacks Před 2 lety +1

      @@tupapisoyyo676 keeping your engine lasting as long as possible is counteractive to their buisness.

  • @AHMEDAHMED-sh9up
    @AHMEDAHMED-sh9up Před 3 lety

    Sir, I would like to thank you for the publications sir. I have a Taurus tractor engine with a malfunctioning C9 engine valve. I set the valves when I started the engine; It is no longer the same in the rotary engine and slows down a lot when turned on

  • @gregoryolson1782
    @gregoryolson1782 Před 3 lety +1

    Ive always practice this, get the temp down to idling temperature before shutting down.

  • @los9837
    @los9837 Před 3 lety +1

    Im glad I saw this. I always cool down the engine. I was told turbos go out around 700k to 800k.I had C15 NSX, original turbos started to leak oil at exactly a million miles. I always took my truck to Cat, I never would let Freightliner touch my engine, the tech at Cat almost fell backwards when I told him the truck had original turbos. I never babied my truck she was always running 70-75. Take you for your information!

  • @johnnylightning1491
    @johnnylightning1491 Před 2 lety

    So I guess when I pull off of the highway and screw around getting to a camp site or to my storage place I've probably done enough low load running where the engine should be cooled down, but I'll make sure and check. Keep the good stuff coming.

  • @Carstuff111
    @Carstuff111 Před 3 lety +4

    If I can help it, I let any engine I use cool down a bit before I shut it off, more so when a turbo is in the mix. My roommate's have had zero turbo issues with their 2011 1.4 turbo Chevrolet Cruze because they, and myself, let the car cool down a bit after the car has been driven. I have seen with my own eyes, just how terrible it is for a turbo to not be cooled down first before shutting off an engine. Saw a lot of dead turbochargers at the VW dealership I worked for, both for gas and diesel engines, because people drive their vehicles hard and shut them off as soon as they get where ever they are going.

  • @GeekBoyMN
    @GeekBoyMN Před rokem +1

    In the early and mid 00s I drove a UD 2600 and the manual said to idle the engine for 2 minutes to let the turbo slow down before shutting down which obviously kills oil flow. We also had a GMC badged Isuzu (both trucks 26K lbs GVRW) with the Cat 3126 and I figured the same principle applied so I did the same with it, and I explained this to my supervisor and he instructed all the other drivers to do the same.

  • @moremilesmoreproblems6330

    Glad I found this. I’m new to the trucking game and came from being a gas tech. I would have never known to do this. Luckily I’ve only put 30k on my truck since I’ve got it. Sitting at 180k

  • @rorywynhoff1549
    @rorywynhoff1549 Před 3 lety

    Nice overview of this.

  • @marinvremes5702
    @marinvremes5702 Před 3 lety

    Awesome information, thanks for sharing again. Now I know way my diesel engine was such a bad failure, I was driving it like a petrol.

  • @gerryod4226
    @gerryod4226 Před rokem +1

    My engine cool down I made a habit before shut down of engaging the fan with the switch on the dash and let the engine idle for at least 5 to 10 min especially throughout the hot summer days and you explain that very well with the heat that is created via the turbo

  • @Trent_Fleming
    @Trent_Fleming Před 3 lety

    Another great video! Thank you!

  • @gregmorgan5332
    @gregmorgan5332 Před 3 lety +3

    All correct and explained very well what I can add to what you are saying that operators standing waiting with a stopwatch waiting to cool of for a given amount of time seldom works. But a bit of forward thinking and change of behaviour can also give equal rewards . For argument sake racing up a highway straight into to park then standing and waiting can make an operator impatient and just shutoff the engine. Or simply ease of early on the throttle pedal before arriving at a rest area and steadily negotiating your way into a parking area has dual rewards of being able to arrive and park safely and also adds to your cooling of your engine. As I try to explain to machine operators when bringing a machine back to the compound run the machine back in shut the throttle down and park carefully then set to idle put your helmet and jacket on roll a cigarette then before you get out of the cad shut the engine down. I find I have better success trying to change behaviour than just telling some body to sit and wait as some guys will but most won’t.
    Great videos and great content best of luck for the future.

  • @victormcox
    @victormcox Před 3 lety +14

    Thanks for another one!!! Still laughing from the scream🤪👍🤟

    • @davidscott5903
      @davidscott5903 Před 3 lety

      Yes! Awesome scream. That's probably what I would have done.

  • @joecool509
    @joecool509 Před 3 lety

    Great topic. Thanks!

  • @leebuck180
    @leebuck180 Před 3 lety +6

    progress rail needs to follow CAT's advise. the model SD70 locomotives have auto shutdown to "save fuel" that shutdown the prime mover only 30 seconds after the unit on the train has stopped no matter how hard it had been running! of course this keeps the turbo company in big money.

  • @phalanx3803
    @phalanx3803 Před 3 lety +2

    i forgot what i was driving as a kid i think it was the old Ford 946 our neighbor let us borrow but i remember on the dash it had a warning label that said to let the engine cool down and if the engine stops while under load to try and start it again and let it idle to avoid damage. IMO if its got a turbo it should have a turbo timer better safe then sorry also its handy for hot days and your going in to a servo or corner store for a few mins you can set the timer to its highest setting my one can go up to 10 mins and it keeps the AC running. timers seem to have bean mostly forgotten i have so many people ask why my land cruiser is still running after i get out and walk away I've even had a truckie ask me that do modern truck not come with a turbo timers any more? i remember it being standard.

  • @wyatttipton9957
    @wyatttipton9957 Před 3 lety +11

    The engine also has static heat. My 6.7 cummins heats up from 195 to 210 just sitting after shutdown

    • @davidscott5903
      @davidscott5903 Před 3 lety +6

      That is due to those hot spots transferring their heat to the coolant without it flowing anymore. That is how cooling systems work. You have noticed a very important part of how thermodynamics works. Few people notice that. When a system is operating the hot parts are several degrees hotter than the coolant and thus transfer heat from hot to cold, or high temperature to slightly lower temperature. But when the coolant flow stops, the temperatures will equalize and heat the coolant more than when it's flowing. This is also important because you can then understand that the inside of the cylinder walls is much hotter than the side of the cylinder walls that are in contact with the coolant in the water jacket.

  • @davidroberts5601
    @davidroberts5601 Před 3 lety +3

    Cool down makes sense.... When I'm towing with the Dodge, there's a pass I often go over with a nice place at the top to stop n pee. The thought of oil n coolant not moving through a smoking hot engine n turbo was not to be considered. Plus, I kind of dig how well the truck tows and run at a nice clip, watching boost and other gauges, enjoying the engine take it like a boss.

  • @trentmelinchuk1524
    @trentmelinchuk1524 Před 3 lety +2

    Heh Josh! Love your informative videos. Keep them coming. Quick question.... I see so many new machines on lowboys these days without the exhaust covered. I was always instructed to cover the exhaust while low bedding a machine, to protect the turbo from spinning with no lube pressure. Thoughts please, thank-you.

  • @hedydd2
    @hedydd2 Před 3 lety +7

    Basically when the engine is shut down all lube and cooling stops apart from the ability of coolant to superheat around the valves which is very effective at cooling actually. Yes it can eventually cause cavitation/errosion. Turbo on a hot sudden;y stopped engine keeps turning for about 30 seconds, effectively without lube and when it does stop the extreme heat may well bake and caramelise as you indicate. I've seen abused engines in motorway/highway truck stops start boiling out of the coolant expansion tank cap, starting up to two minutes after the abusive stop without cooling from highway loads. Thermal stress on rapidly contracting components such as exhaust manifolds and heads/head gaskets can cause fairly rapid and severe damage as well.
    As a rule of thumb a hot engine under load should only ever be shut down suddenly for one reason. That is when the oil pressure warning light comes on. It then becomes an issue of damage limitation. A sudden engine stop is likely to cause less damage than running the engine for a few seconds longer to allow it to cool down. A few seconds running with no oil pressure will undoubtedly cause a major overhaul at best. At worse, a rod out the side.

  • @jimmotormedic
    @jimmotormedic Před 3 lety +2

    I totally agree with this. It is somewhat confusing in a highway engine due to the fact that some engines actually have a lower coolant temperature while driving. If you notice your fan will kick on at say 210 and you tool down the road at maybe 190. You pull in to the yard and idle and your temp gauge actually rises. This has been a discussion of mine with operators that just shut down. So the way I word it is to let temps stabilize and if you have a pyro let it fall off. Tell guys why they should warm up is a totally different argument. I tell them that being a mechanic helps me understand and see in my mind all the things inside an engine that can go wrong. You sure can tell the difference between someone that knows and don't know when you start breaking into an engine

  • @markm0000
    @markm0000 Před 3 lety +43

    I always idle or drive slow for about 10 minutes after driving fast before turning it off.

    • @AdeptApe
      @AdeptApe  Před 3 lety +20

      Sounds like you are doing it correctly there.

    • @castirondude
      @castirondude Před 3 lety +5

      With trucks, most of the time the cooldown is built into the driving pattern. One exception might be something like a rest stop at the top of a hill, where you can go from a hard pull to a stop.

    • @joemeyer2726
      @joemeyer2726 Před 3 lety +2

      When start should allow idle until oil temp 100 or higher?

    • @joemeyer2726
      @joemeyer2726 Před 3 lety

      Benefits to engine block heater as high as 45 or 50 degrees? How long heater block?

    • @michaelbenoit248
      @michaelbenoit248 Před 3 lety +1

      Same, my driveway is 1/4 mile down hill with a slight slope, I don’t have a turbo, but I still let my idi cool down for about 2-3minutes. I never truly work my idi that hard, but I always start the truck & let it warm up for 5-10minutes before driving away depending on how cold it is, the 83-94 7.3idis or non turbo engines need more warm up time, this is because when it’s cold it needs a few minutes to get the oil warm, then a few high idle moments to get the heat up, so it runs better.
      My previous 95 7.3 PSD was always warm by the time I got up my 1/4 mile up hill driveway, I can tell when it lugs down & accelerates slightly.

  • @adamsavage4155
    @adamsavage4155 Před 3 lety

    Yes! I always stress this to my customers as well with their equipment. When I pull up to the house at the end of the day, I let the service truck idle a good 15-20 minutes while I do paperwork and check things over for my post trip.
    How are you liking SIS 2.0? I work for a deere dealer so I am partial to their system. But we do a fair bit of cat work also. And I think 2.0 is a nice change and a little easier on the eyes.

  • @1994delicaman
    @1994delicaman Před 3 lety +7

    I always idle my turbo diesel car/SUVs for 2 mins before shut down. Good practice for longevity

    • @teenaramsay2469
      @teenaramsay2469 Před 3 lety

      Turbo timers...set and forget. automatically idles engine after "key off and out" for 1, 3 or 5 minutes (selectable) and that's for a cheap unit...

  • @someperson7
    @someperson7 Před 3 lety +19

    Some older Peterbilts have a shutdown timer on them. It was just a timer style timer. You set the timer and instead of a ding, it shut off.

    • @kylehardman6139
      @kylehardman6139 Před 3 lety +6

      My 97 379 has one turn the dial. Pull the key and walk away she'll shut off on her own. I drove an 08 glider freighshaker classic with a 6nz that also had one.

    • @1320fastback
      @1320fastback Před 3 lety +1

      My old Dodge has one of these. Its a mechanical fuel system and the timer basically passes 12 volts to the fuel solenoid so it stays open after you turn the key off. Time runs out, voltage goes away, fuel cuts off.

    • @Bendigo1
      @Bendigo1 Před 3 lety +1

      Paccar trucks still have that. I drive a t680 now drove a pete 579 and a t660 all of them had it.

    • @stanpatterson5033
      @stanpatterson5033 Před 3 lety +1

      Kysor used to make an aftermarket shut-down system for any truck. The only one I ever saw gave 5 minutes after the system was activated and the key turned off, though I think it was adjustable.

    • @briantruck2284
      @briantruck2284 Před 3 lety

      True

  • @jimf3932
    @jimf3932 Před 2 lety +4

    The manual for my '02 Super Duty specifically recommends idling for at least three minutes after running under a load. I had a Turbo Saver installed when I first bought her and have always used it. I always let my Powersroke idle til my EGT drops to 350 or a bit less. I like to think that and using T6 Rotella have helped avoid coking and turbo failure for the 21 years and 278k miles she has in her. The Turbo Saver lets me set idle time from 1 to 13 minutes. Works great.

    • @justnsaliga8518
      @justnsaliga8518 Před rokem

      i run rotella T4 in summer seasons. and rotella t6 in winter season. on my 6.0 powerstroke. i dont have a turbo timer but let it cool at idle for 2-3 minutes. i love the truck enough to sit in it at idle for a few minutes. the area i live at though if im not towing its about a 5-10 minute drive to my house in my neighborhood with 15~ mph speed limit its roughly 1000 RPM unloaded. so reduced cooldown time idk maybe 1 minute at most.

  • @lr937
    @lr937 Před 3 lety

    Thank u for another great video

  • @vincecompian8352
    @vincecompian8352 Před rokem

    As always great information thank you! 👍

  • @blauer2551
    @blauer2551 Před 3 lety

    Your videos should be included along with all the safety and diversity videos some of us have to complete at work. Some guys just don’t know the basics even though they’ve been driving a long time.

  • @hookahb8299
    @hookahb8299 Před 3 lety

    Another very informative video..Good stuff, and i appreciate it..Thanks..B

  • @davidday2994
    @davidday2994 Před 3 lety

    Good job on the video.

  • @tg9754
    @tg9754 Před rokem

    Great video. Thanks

  • @georgewashington938
    @georgewashington938 Před 3 lety +2

    I was pulling a heavy load with a gasoline engine and the temp gauge was reading normal to a little high. When I stopped for fuel and shut the engine off, I could hear gurgling in the overflow tank. I checked the temp gauge and now it was pegged to the hot side. I immediately restarted the engine to get the coolant and oil circulating again and it moved back to the needle went back to the middle/normal position.
    After that experience, I never shut down an engine if it has been working hard. I give it a few minutes to vent off excess heat.

  • @fredkohlman8860
    @fredkohlman8860 Před 3 lety +6

    Let the temp even-out as much as realistically possible, avoid hot spots, thats the idea.

  • @paulmaxwell8851
    @paulmaxwell8851 Před rokem +1

    I have two diesel generators, a Kubota and a Deutz. Neither have turbochargers but I have always allowed them to cool down for about three to five minutes after removing the load. It's just the sensible thing to do, and costs only pennies.

  • @Ratkill9000
    @Ratkill9000 Před 3 lety +2

    Even on new diesel engines in a 2500 or 3500, after my 10 mile test drive, I let it idle for a few minutes to let them cool down a bit. Same with turbo gas engines, it allows the coolant to go through the turbo(s) to allow them to cool down.

  • @bendeleted9155
    @bendeleted9155 Před 3 lety +4

    Good topic. This also applies to ANY equipment with a turbocharger (needs an idle cool-down), but it's also a good idea to shut down electrical loads in the last few minutes on any vehicle to let the battery recover, and let the A/C system normalize, so condensation doesn't form in the ducts after you shut it down.

    • @teenaramsay2469
      @teenaramsay2469 Před 3 lety +1

      Turbo timers...set and forget. automatically idles engine after "key off and out" for 1, 3 or 5 minutes (selectable) and that's for a cheap unit... and while it is idling down the alternator is still working....

  • @mohammadalissa8255
    @mohammadalissa8255 Před 3 lety +3

    Great information from a great caterpillar expert 👏

  • @shanebassen5963
    @shanebassen5963 Před 3 lety

    We had a 600KW cat genset that we used to run our grain dryer. It had one speed wide open. Always felt bad shutting down a screaming engine at night. Usually had at least 10 to 20 minutes of light to no load as I shut off fans.

  • @AfterOursMusic
    @AfterOursMusic Před rokem

    Very interesting. We live in Idaho. So we get a bit of North Dakota (for like 10min a year) and a bit of Arizona for a tad longer. This was very helpful!

  • @giggiddy
    @giggiddy Před 3 lety +1

    Number 1 on the list speaks to intake air with corrosive contents. I just think about the clowns with big sport fish boats. They run them wide open out to a fishing spot then shut the engines down and drift. Then they bitch that the turbos are junk when the salt air and heat trashes them out prematurely. Great video as always.

  • @michaelsorrentino7409
    @michaelsorrentino7409 Před 3 lety

    AS ALWAYS A WELL MADE VIDEO EXPLAINING WHY N WHY NOT..

  • @livingeveryday777
    @livingeveryday777 Před rokem

    I started doing this with my 5.9 Cummins after high speeds or loaded trips and I’ve noticed the difference. Engine does run smoother and feels more confident when I let it “cool” down

  • @davidwalle5025
    @davidwalle5025 Před 3 lety

    Good video. Cat is the diesel engine builder.

  • @mikecont9742
    @mikecont9742 Před 3 lety

    Great video

  • @user-sl9ik1ff6t
    @user-sl9ik1ff6t Před 2 měsíci

    Thank you! Good advise!

  • @weazelchop3322
    @weazelchop3322 Před 3 lety

    Hi I’m a big fan of your channel love it !!!! Thank you just want you know I’ve learned a lot

    • @AdeptApe
      @AdeptApe  Před 3 lety

      That you for the comment.

  • @chriswatts2096
    @chriswatts2096 Před 3 lety +1

    Josh that was a good find on the turbo, you know within a few days the turbo may have went out and they would’ve tried to blame that on the overhead work.

    • @clintonscottwalsh
      @clintonscottwalsh Před 2 lety +1

      Here in Australia we have turbo timers. Whack it in neutral hand brake on and turn off the ignition. Engine will keep going at idle until the timer shuts the engine down.

  • @mauriceornelas
    @mauriceornelas Před 3 lety

    Very helpful thanks

  • @markodom82
    @markodom82 Před 2 měsíci

    Love your spin on diesel engines

  • @mrdanger4851
    @mrdanger4851 Před 3 lety +1

    YES...helps avoid heat soaking the oil to turbo bearings and other critical components.

  • @ianm432
    @ianm432 Před rokem +1

    When I'm a few minutes from my destination and I know I'll be shutting the engine off I try to run the fan in manual mode and I'll stay a half/full gear down where I would normally be. This typically gets me pretty close to the base idle temperature for coolant and oil without having to idle much at all.

  • @tomnorthcutt4754
    @tomnorthcutt4754 Před 3 lety +1

    i love that hat! i always let my 7.3 idle for a few min before shut dwn another great video bud and happy new year

    • @AdeptApe
      @AdeptApe  Před 3 lety

      I think I'm going to add it to the rotation.

    • @teenaramsay2469
      @teenaramsay2469 Před 3 lety

      Turbo timers...set and forget. automatically idles engine after "key off and out" for 1, 3 or 5 minutes (selectable) and that's for a cheap unit...

  • @jackdawg4579
    @jackdawg4579 Před 3 lety +1

    it was all the rage a few years ago to fit timers to your turbo diesel 4wd, so it would continue to idle for a few minutes after you turned the key off.

    • @teenaramsay2469
      @teenaramsay2469 Před 3 lety +1

      And that is another reason diesels last longer if you fit Turbo timers...set and forget. automatically idles engine after "key off and out" for 1, 3 or 5 minutes (selectable) and that's for a cheap unit...

  • @redneckasmr-xd1gg
    @redneckasmr-xd1gg Před 3 lety +1

    same for some gas engines too. once i shut off my 95 f150 i6 after a long pull up a hill, started getting hot and missed for a few seconds after restarting.

  • @alstuart
    @alstuart Před 3 lety

    I installed a Banks iDash in my Ram truck just so I can monitor the Exhaust Gas Temperature (EGT) so I know when it is safe to turn off the engine. I always let the EGT reach 400 degrees before turning off the engine.

  • @TroubleActual
    @TroubleActual Před 3 lety +1

    Exactly! What Josh said! Shame is, newer trucks don't have the guages to monitor all these temps. That's why I had a 96 Pete 379. Thx for the videos. Good job

    • @hedydd2
      @hedydd2 Před 3 lety +1

      Modern engines may well have safety systems built in. There are many engines now that have electric coolant pumps that circulate coolant after engine shut-down, not only through the block and head but also through the turbo bearings. Some may even have similar auxiliary oil pumps that essentially do a similar job, mainly through turbo bearings, especially on engines that have dreadful stop/start systems fitted.
      It is quite amazing that so many people seem not to know the regime for both cold starting or hot stopping engines, especially turbocharged engines whether diesel or gas. Every turbo diesel vehicle I've ever owned has this information in the driver's manual, admittedly not always as prominently as I believe it should be. But it is usually there in black and white.

    • @jaredmayer3960
      @jaredmayer3960 Před 3 lety

      Which engines have these electric pumps?

    • @hedydd2
      @hedydd2 Před 3 lety

      @@jaredmayer3960
      My last Volvo XC90 diesel and my current Kia Sorento diesel certainly have these pumps for the turbo[s]. Pumps generally are going electric on state of the art engines and even automatic transmissions. The Kia/Hyundai wet clutch DCT [another growing trend in cars tractors and trucks] has two electric pumps, one for the wet clutches and one for the mechatronics.
      I forgot, the Volvo and Honda have twin turbochargers and the Honda also has a turbo cooling system, although I'm unsure about an electric coolant pump on this one. More and more cooling systems are getting very complex with ECU controlled valves in the system, as well as the traditional wax thermostats, to restrict cooling to certain areas or increase as demanded, for quick warming and least energy loss.

  • @GIGABACHI
    @GIGABACHI Před 3 lety +3

    Ahhhh, all this talk made me remember when turbo timers were considered A MUST HAVE on EVERY turbocharged engine when engine control systems where still in their infancy and engine oil was made out of cat's piss and protected like wise, even the synthetic ones. I feel old now. 😔

  • @larrytalley117
    @larrytalley117 Před 3 lety

    Let's see...cold starts, hot shutdowns, Heui pumps, exhaust gas temps...maybe I should have been taking notes. Another great video from the master of Cats.

  • @RonnieReyes-vq4mw
    @RonnieReyes-vq4mw Před rokem

    Greetings from the Philippines. My car is a Mitsubishi equipped with a 4N15 Turbodiesel engine. I always idle the engine for about 2 - 3 minutes before shutdown, especially after highway driving. I also change the engine oil every 6 months or 5,000 kms. Thank you for the information concerning engine cooldown before shutdown.

  • @2020HotShotTruckingLLC
    @2020HotShotTruckingLLC Před rokem +1

    For a typical trucker, this is easier than it sounds. I monitor EGT, coolant temperature, water temperature and transmission fluid temperatures electronically. In summer heat when I've been pulling heavy or large wind resistance loads is when my temperatures are the highest. Just idling while fueling for 10 - 15 minutes and my temps are back to normal. So when a truck slowly makes it's way into a truck stop, finds a parking spot and jockeys into position, the engine is barely working the whole time and by time you set your brakes and log yourself on duty to do your post trip inspection your temps are pretty much cooled down to normal. Me personally, I like to fuel up before shutting it down for the night but that depends on the fuel aisle and parking situation also. Point being, you won't have to idle very long after parking. Maybe by time you check your lights, tires, load and look for leaks on the engine you can shut it down.

  • @tsimmons1974ts
    @tsimmons1974ts Před 3 lety +2

    Love the old school Cat hat 👍🏾👍🏾

  • @rgdegregori8744
    @rgdegregori8744 Před 3 lety

    I had a 93 Dodge/Cummins for 20 years. I set the pyrometer probe after the turbo which will always read cooler than pre-turbo. It never hit more than 750d under load and my practice was to let it cool to 300d before shutdown. I now have a 2012 RAM/Cummins and set the pyrometer probe post turbo. It reads well over 1000d just pulling a grade unloaded. I couldn’t find any shutdown information and so settled on 400d. I can tell you from years of experience running these trucks as well as diesel boats that you can idle them till the cows come home and you won’t get much of a reading on the pyrometer and the coolant isn’t much quicker. The engine needs a load for both the exhaust gas and coolant temperatures to rise. A Cummins engineer told me fire the engines up and idle out of the harbor than gradually bring up the speed. Going back in under idle will cool everything off just fine.

  • @jamesaucutt8284
    @jamesaucutt8284 Před rokem

    Great info Josh

  • @hansjansen7047
    @hansjansen7047 Před 11 měsíci

    A pyrometer is very useful for judging when to let the engine cool down.I always found that letting the truck coast to a stop and running in low range to find a parking spot was sufficient.

  • @danw6014
    @danw6014 Před rokem

    Turbo charger failure was a big problem in the little Chrysler 2.2L engine from the 80s for this very reason. They were great engines even when you pushed them too the limit,but you had to take care of them.

  • @jaminstewart2444
    @jaminstewart2444 Před 3 lety +1

    Thats why the big diesel engines in trains and ships have pumps that run oil through the turbo for 30 minutes after shutdown

  • @charlesb4267
    @charlesb4267 Před 3 lety +1

    The turbo issues reminds me of long ago as a kid sitting at the local farm tractor pull contest ( there were a variety of agriculture related events going on ) and every so often a farmer would stall out his engine as its pulling down and stalled before he could pull the throttle back and hit the clutch pedal. At least one of those times in that instant before the driver could restart the engine there was this loud squealing coming from the engine as it would have been the turbo shaft spinning over fast yet with zero oil getting to the bearing, doubt that turbo lasted long after that happened. In the real world lets say having an electronic issue or climbing a grade on a low tank of fuel and having the engine die while under full load, Mr Turbo would not be a happy camper after a treatment like that. Then one truly would be sounding like the goat who just had his balls cut off when getting the bill LOL.

  • @SuperJohndeere4020
    @SuperJohndeere4020 Před 3 lety

    Hey, Could you talk about what RPMS you should shift the engines at like a B model and the C15s. I hear a couple different ranges that I should shift my Sterling with a C-15 in it.

  • @jtownjumpcity5937
    @jtownjumpcity5937 Před 3 lety

    Always on the money.

  • @matthewhansen5008
    @matthewhansen5008 Před 3 lety +5

    Newer Mack trucks if engine is hot will not turn off the engine until it cools itself down. Meaning you can turn the key off yet the truck will remain running until computer turns it off. Usually within 5 to 10 minutes.

    • @1brtucker
      @1brtucker Před 3 lety +1

      Sounds nice.... useful feature.

    • @lungelinecowboy
      @lungelinecowboy Před 3 lety

      Sounds great until you got a fuel leak that started a fire and you want it off instantly.

    • @matthewhansen5008
      @matthewhansen5008 Před 3 lety +2

      @@lungelinecowboy turning the key back to run position and back to off will override the cool down and kill the engine.

    • @1brtucker
      @1brtucker Před 3 lety

      Better the fire starts on your parking than on your driving you may ask why only 10 percent of time trucker park away from each other most trucker only have two fire extinguisher if so much I carry five or more with the additional truckers around am sure they can bring that fire under control majority of fire while driving mostly end up as total burn out, so it's best to follow the message in the video and post check your truck after. That you don't drive down the road the next day with a fuel line about to rupture ✌️

    • @lungelinecowboy
      @lungelinecowboy Před 3 lety

      @@matthewhansen5008 Thanks for reply. It's good they thought about those emergency situations.

  • @steveurbach3093
    @steveurbach3093 Před 3 lety

    I had a Pyrometer in my exhaust. I used to let it idle until it dropped to typical Idle temps. That usually was 3-5 Minutes after a Freeway run

    • @teenaramsay2469
      @teenaramsay2469 Před 3 lety

      Turbo timers...set and forget. automatically idles engine after "key off and out" for 1, 3 or 5 minutes (selectable) and that's for a cheap unit...

  • @garyferguson1552
    @garyferguson1552 Před 2 lety

    Great video
    Would this also apply to a 2002 7.3 power stroke?

  • @bryanbishop806
    @bryanbishop806 Před 3 lety +1

    I've read owners manuals for 50s era Cat tractors many of that era weren't turboed manual recommends a cool down time the idea was to let the engine normalize.

  • @Robasteerjock51
    @Robasteerjock51 Před 3 lety +4

    Thanks for you sharing your knowledge

  • @harrycraviotto2375
    @harrycraviotto2375 Před 3 lety +3

    Could you address the cool down with a DPF filter?
    They want you to run the engine at higher RPM to keep your particles burnt off?
    Any thoughts?

  • @nevinkuser9892
    @nevinkuser9892 Před rokem +1

    This is exactly why I'm becoming a diesel mechanic before getting on the road in a big truck.
    I heard about a guy quoted $20,000 for an engine repair and he was actually considering doing it!
    That time and money is much better spent learning the trade before getting on the road.
    It's a safety issue for you, other drivers, and also the people you're delivering goods for as well.
    If we don't know the condition of our rig, how the hell can we guarantee that it's going to reach it's destination??