I've been working music contray to my politics out my playlists and it's done wonders for my mental. There's billions of artists in the world that we can only support ones that reflect our values.
Really appreciative of this conversation and all the perspectives present. I'm a poor artist as well, and looking for spaces I don't have to shape shift in.
This convo was soooo good. And very much needed in this moment to keep myself sane. The Blinken press conference is literally like a caricature of a cutscene of the most evil villains in the world speaking openly about their plans. Can’t make this shit up. Sometimes I forget just how brazenly open the U.S. is about its imperialism and utter contempt for the world lol.
Just wanted to add something important regarding Chuck D's point about CZcams and Google: Google has had a think tank within the company known as Google Ideas. It was spearheaded by Eric Schmidt, who went on to work at the State Department. He is now investing in autonomous military drones. So there is a lot of significant overlap between Google and the State Dept. as well.
im so unplugged from mainstream news i only hear politicians talking when im listening to stuff like this and its so fucking jarring hearing the Ghoul Team (all the big names) talk and i know its all bullshit hearing it makes me so fucking done with this shit
Really glad you had this topic and appreciated the convo. I actually liked the Blinken clip because the language he used is very similar to language of arts councils and arts funders ie the “universality of arts, etc. which ties in well with the larger colonial motif “the universality of Europe”. Feel like Raymond Williams’ work “Culture & Society” is helpful to think about “culture”, in a Western European context, or maybe more so “the arts” are a particular reformist creature of the capitalist class and what could be gained by applying this to PE even it’s hay day? My recollection is that PE in the 80s and 90s weren’t necessarily shouting out actual counter or radical political movements to join from the stage, but would be curious about folks from NY remember since i only saw them on big tours.
Solid insights Justin. I think the main question would be whether people viewed the NOI - in the late 80's and early 90's - as a radical political movement. Since I think that was the strongest influence on PE and the thing that they were most often understood (and demonized) in relation to and which they referenced in their heyday "Farrakhan's a prophet that I think that you should listen to." I think it was a counter-cultural movement at least and NOI & 5% Nation certainly influenced a lot of what I view as the more progressive (for lack of a better term) hip hop in the era. But yeah I personally would stop short of at least calling it revolutionary. Anyway you raise good points all around.
@@MAKCapitalism thanks I was thinking about NOI and Farrakhan and thinking of them also as "cultural" (and so one cultural movement referencing another one) but you are making me remember Farrakhan was pointing out Khaddafi and trying to build relationships back then, so, yeah, no neat boxes in which to categorize folks, but glad the Williams points seems to make sense to you because it does feel like his work is worth lifting up more, even if he is a "cultural Marxist" lol
@@justinlaing924 some great work for sure. Culture is important too. You might did some of the convo on Vietnamese revolutionary culture (in the arts sense) we released today in this vein
@@Ftjxmmged yes. I am very curious what Morello thinks about this. Chuck is trying to imply that he co-signed it. But I wouldn't believe that until I heard it from Tom.
Why did you make me listen to Blinken, J? Urgh. This "soft power" bs has been effective in the past but I think it's overripe and easily read in the dying empire. Still watching.
i think in this moment the empire is doubling-down on 'soft power' psychological warfare tactics, because it is in fact losing a narrative war in some regards. as we speak, roughly 60% of U.S. adults read below the literacy rate of a 6th grader; Walter Rodney said that deep mental, cultural, and social underdevelopment were part of the ongoing process of underdevelopment.
Hello MAKC ... In case you want any audio, music, sound related help, i give you my services free. Drop a comment / email address if you wish. Kudos for the work you are doing in any case. Best wishes from Valencia Spain. Respect to Musa, Slank, Erica
I've been working music contray to my politics out my playlists and it's done wonders for my mental. There's billions of artists in the world that we can only support ones that reflect our values.
I like the distinction Erica made between artistry and celebrity. I think a lot of modern artists need to remember that...
Great exchange
Love hearing Musa and Erika...my first introduction to Slank. Great cat too
Thank you
Really appreciative of this conversation and all the perspectives present. I'm a poor artist as well, and looking for spaces I don't have to shape shift in.
This convo was soooo good. And very much needed in this moment to keep myself sane.
The Blinken press conference is literally like a caricature of a cutscene of the most evil villains in the world speaking openly about their plans. Can’t make this shit up. Sometimes I forget just how brazenly open the U.S. is about its imperialism and utter contempt for the world lol.
Listening now at work, from the rest of the comments i know this is gonna be a slapper
Just wanted to add something important regarding Chuck D's point about CZcams and Google:
Google has had a think tank within the company known as Google Ideas. It was spearheaded by Eric Schmidt, who went on to work at the State Department. He is now investing in autonomous military drones. So there is a lot of significant overlap between Google and the State Dept. as well.
@@effteepeedistro5388 100%
Almost had a stroke listening to Blinken
@@amdclx4635 sorry about that 😂
im so unplugged from mainstream news i only hear politicians talking when im listening to stuff like this and its so fucking jarring hearing the Ghoul Team (all the big names) talk and i know its all bullshit hearing it makes me so fucking done with this shit
Really glad you had this topic and appreciated the convo. I actually liked the Blinken clip because the language he used is very similar to language of arts councils and arts funders ie the “universality of arts, etc. which ties in well with the larger colonial motif “the universality of Europe”. Feel like Raymond Williams’ work “Culture & Society” is helpful to think about “culture”, in a Western European context, or maybe more so “the arts” are a particular reformist creature of the capitalist class and what could be gained by applying this to PE even it’s hay day? My recollection is that PE in the 80s and 90s weren’t necessarily shouting out actual counter or radical political movements to join from the stage, but would be curious about folks from NY remember since i only saw them on big tours.
Solid insights Justin. I think the main question would be whether people viewed the NOI - in the late 80's and early 90's - as a radical political movement. Since I think that was the strongest influence on PE and the thing that they were most often understood (and demonized) in relation to and which they referenced in their heyday "Farrakhan's a prophet that I think that you should listen to." I think it was a counter-cultural movement at least and NOI & 5% Nation certainly influenced a lot of what I view as the more progressive (for lack of a better term) hip hop in the era. But yeah I personally would stop short of at least calling it revolutionary. Anyway you raise good points all around.
@@MAKCapitalism thanks I was thinking about NOI and Farrakhan and thinking of them also as "cultural" (and so one cultural movement referencing another one) but you are making me remember Farrakhan was pointing out Khaddafi and trying to build relationships back then, so, yeah, no neat boxes in which to categorize folks, but glad the Williams points seems to make sense to you because it does feel like his work is worth lifting up more, even if he is a "cultural Marxist" lol
@@justinlaing924 some great work for sure. Culture is important too. You might did some of the convo on Vietnamese revolutionary culture (in the arts sense) we released today in this vein
Really interesting! Thanks
very dope convo. 🖤🔥
Thanks Sunny. Shout-out to the work you and Slank do.
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N lmao at Shuck D. The internet quick on the draw
didnt tom morello play a show at an encampment
@@Ftjxmmged yes. I am very curious what Morello thinks about this. Chuck is trying to imply that he co-signed it. But I wouldn't believe that until I heard it from Tom.
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that state dept press conference was almost as cringe as blinken's jam band footage
Culture vultures is what they are...all of em
May Flava Flave RIP.
@@jamesambas6708 he's still alive. Was just hanging out with the water polo team at the Olympics
Flavor Flav is blood cousin to RZA, GZA and was with Old Dirty Bastard (RIP) ☀️
Being chosen by the US State Dept to be a cultural ambassador usually is not great
@@shannonm.townsend1232 being chosen is one thing. Agreeing to do it is another
@@MAKCapitalism yes
Why did you make me listen to Blinken, J? Urgh. This "soft power" bs has been effective in the past but I think it's overripe and easily read in the dying empire. Still watching.
@@franceshasso1212 it was important for the conversation on Chuck. Especially with all of his attempts to mystify what he's doing.
i think in this moment the empire is doubling-down on 'soft power' psychological warfare tactics, because it is in fact losing a narrative war in some regards. as we speak, roughly 60% of U.S. adults read below the literacy rate of a 6th grader; Walter Rodney said that deep mental, cultural, and social underdevelopment were part of the ongoing process of underdevelopment.
"Freedom of expression" but CZcams demonetized this video 🙃 But hey at least they didn't remove the video 🫠
@@akua415 yeah I thought about appealing but decided a manual review might lead them to be more punitive lol
Hello MAKC ... In case you want any audio, music, sound related help, i give you my services free. Drop a comment / email address if you wish.
Kudos for the work you are doing in any case. Best wishes from Valencia Spain. Respect to Musa, Slank, Erica