AVS-36: The First Soviet Infantry Battle Rifle

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  • The AVS-36 was the first self-loading rifle adopted by the Soviet Union to be a standard infantry rifle, and it was not just semiautomatic, but also capable of fully automatic fire. Designed by Sergei Simonov over the course of about ten years, it would only last a short time in service before being replaced by the Tokarev SVT-38 and then SVT-40.
    The AVS-36 uses a short stroke gas piston system that remains popular to this day, and a quite unusual locking system incorporating two asymmetrical locking flaps and a vertically traveling locking block. It is striker fired, with semi and full auto selector positions and a 15-round detachable magazine (plus stripper clip guide). In total, 65,800 were made between 1934 and 1940, with true mass production beginning in 1937.
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  • @djwoody1649
    @djwoody1649 Před 5 lety +853

    "Names you've never heard of, like Resnov." Oohhhh we've all heard of him.

    • @forrestclark6069
      @forrestclark6069 Před 5 lety +107

      my name... is VICTOR REZNOV

    • @willh.7755
      @willh.7755 Před 4 lety +81

      And I will have my REVENGE

    • @alucardvigilatedismas2868
      @alucardvigilatedismas2868 Před 4 lety +50

      The numbers Mason, what do they mean!?

    • @ImYourIchigo
      @ImYourIchigo Před 4 lety +14

      @@alucardvigilatedismas2868 that would be Hudson doing Math

    • @sumvs5992
      @sumvs5992 Před 4 lety +16

      I love how his name translates to "massacre" and we first meet him in the fountain. Just brilliant in my opinion.

  • @rad666a
    @rad666a Před 5 lety +903

    I would just like to say thank you to the owners of these firearms for allowing Ian to dismantle them for our viewing pleasure.

    • @robertkubrick3738
      @robertkubrick3738 Před 5 lety +62

      Me too, but it might add value to the weapon...As seen on Forgotten Weapons.

    • @acewolfgang276
      @acewolfgang276 Před 5 lety +24

      @Mocking goat that's because giving Ian a gun is like giving jesus one of your stuff. It makes it worth 10x more.

    • @AllAboutMiims
      @AllAboutMiims Před 4 lety +26

      The real MVP (apart from Ian) because letting someone take apart your *extremely rare & valuable* gun, is not something you don't worry over.

    • @borisdorofeev5602
      @borisdorofeev5602 Před 3 lety +7

      It's like letting your hot wife strip in front of a camera.

    • @hasanfoyejul5500
      @hasanfoyejul5500 Před 3 lety +5

      @@acewolfgang276 with all due respect dear "no one should call someone JESUS ! ধন্যবাদ...
      thanks

  • @PhotoshopShopCS6
    @PhotoshopShopCS6 Před 5 lety +1730

    If you knocked hard enough at the wood, you could still hear the "Uraaaaaa" in it.

    • @seventhsonofaseventhson.6559
      @seventhsonofaseventhson.6559 Před 5 lety +107

      No, you hear the screams of the starving soviet civilians when when you tap this rifle.

    • @Mr1234d
      @Mr1234d Před 5 lety +51

      William Randall r/wooosh

    • @BigBoiBleu
      @BigBoiBleu Před 5 lety +258

      @@seventhsonofaseventhson.6559 I hear homeless veterans when I tap an AR15

    • @Foolishman1776
      @Foolishman1776 Před 5 lety +4

      Urod?

    • @tristanholland6445
      @tristanholland6445 Před 5 lety +52

      Why with all the political stuff? Geez this video is about a firearm it's design and operation.

  • @karas3248
    @karas3248 Před 5 lety +817

    You can see the roots of the sks in that rifle

    • @charaznable2379
      @charaznable2379 Před 5 lety +11

      kazotzky kicks with Samozaryadny Karabin sistemy Simonova, 1945.Embracing m59 cross armed while bayonet extended .

    • @rifles_up2263
      @rifles_up2263 Před 5 lety +12

      Definitely!!

    • @TheArklyte
      @TheArklyte Před 5 lety +48

      If you forget that SKS is just scaled down PTRS... yes, there some similarities. It also has barrel, trigger and stock for example:P

    • @wewd
      @wewd Před 5 lety +48

      @@TheArklyte Simonov made all those rifles, so the similarity is inherent in them as in Kalashnikov's many similar designs.

    • @gunnerr8476
      @gunnerr8476 Před 5 lety +29

      Same designer made the SKS

  • @den2k885
    @den2k885 Před 5 lety +432

    This gun is brilliant. It was a select fire full powered battle rifle holding 15 rounds - basically the M14 25 years early. It is surprisingly easy to field strip without tools, better than some modern guns.
    This is truly amazing.

    • @kardsufur2966
      @kardsufur2966 Před 3 lety +19

      there are some games like Heroes & Generals ww2 where the avs-36 is by far the most powerful and superior gun on the soviet side which all players use :)

    • @howdoyouturnthison7827
      @howdoyouturnthison7827 Před 2 lety +14

      @@kardsufur2966 It is equivalent of mkb 42 in Red orchestra 2.

    • @mikec8086
      @mikec8086 Před 2 lety +6

      @@howdoyouturnthison7827 thats the avt40 in ro2

    • @daniels0376
      @daniels0376 Před 2 lety +20

      @@kardsufur2966 Video games don't portray the downsights of this rifle.
      You don't see how expensive it was to produce, you don't see how often it would break down, you don't see the higher resources which had to be put into a conscript army to train them for such a system.
      Besides in video games full auto rifles are great because it takes 2-3 shots to kill an enemy and the full auto delivers that more quickly. IRL it usually was 1 shot one kill with those high calibers and no body armor.

    • @josephahner3031
      @josephahner3031 Před rokem +4

      @@daniels0376 not as much as you'd think, the lethality of rifle fire depends on shot placement just like today. More powerful rounds will do more damage and be more likely to rupture internal organs but it's not a guaranteed kill.

  • @thegoldencaulk2742
    @thegoldencaulk2742 Před 5 lety +1746

    "The Russians just make crude and simple guns"
    _[shows them AVS-36]_

    • @dndboy13
      @dndboy13 Před 5 lety +307

      an-94 b o i s

    • @Ray-lf1eo
      @Ray-lf1eo Před 5 lety +79

      Fedorov..

    • @wills2140
      @wills2140 Před 5 lety +40

      How's your Fedorov working?

    • @TheArklyte
      @TheArklyte Před 5 lety +102

      @Soul Calibur neither were they simple. Look at Nagant revolver. So much fucking around just to get max power out of short 7.62 ammo. Why? Because they wanted to drill barrels on the same machinery as was used to make Mosins in different 7.62. And yet keep the cartridge short. Mosin itself is notoriously bad for being not any simpler or cheaper then SMLE or Kar98. And definitely much more expensive then MAS-36.

    • @abk4202020
      @abk4202020 Před 5 lety +3

      @@dndboy13 an94 is the death of the AK

  • @skyflier8955
    @skyflier8955 Před 5 lety +431

    Is anyone else amazed by how incredibly clever these mechanisms are?

    • @phillgizmo8934
      @phillgizmo8934 Před 5 lety +7

      Yes.

    • @ihcfn
      @ihcfn Před 4 lety +2

      Must have had swiss/german ancestry :-D

    • @Irregular_John
      @Irregular_John Před 4 lety +7

      lost and confused your CZcams handle describes you to a T.

    • @keithsimpson2685
      @keithsimpson2685 Před 3 lety +11

      @@Irregular_John People like to suck off German/Japanese engineering because it enforces their weird idea that nations have a specific character.
      Really it's probably just they have better consumer protections lol.

    • @gregdaweson4657
      @gregdaweson4657 Před 3 lety

      @@Irregular_John lmao

  • @user-ys2eq7mg1k
    @user-ys2eq7mg1k Před 5 lety +785

    "Симонов" - "Simonov" - pronounced with long "e" like in "sea".
    Great presentation as always.
    I remember article about this rifle in 1946 Blagonravov's book - there was long list of design flaws, including dangerous to the user double feed. Rifle had no good way to check chamber visually, because of it's locking and gas system.

    • @andrewp.1873
      @andrewp.1873 Před 5 lety +40

      This is correct thanks.

    • @Woistdeingott
      @Woistdeingott Před 5 lety +27

      Yep. Ian, Russians tend to use the letter И in names like that vs the ай sound you made, just for future reference

    • @kefeer123
      @kefeer123 Před 5 lety +39

      Adding to that, if it is Russian, then "i" is always "ea" and that other "i" would be "ay". We don't have a separate letter for "ay" (but we have "я" for "ya" and "ю" for "yu").
      Also, that's pronounced "S. S. S. eR.", not CCCP.

    • @user-yi3jz9un2f
      @user-yi3jz9un2f Před 5 lety +8

      Американцы говорят о том как произносится фамилия Симонов.Это даже забавно."И" у нас произносится как "И" и никак "ай" там нет.

    • @ZekeAxel
      @ZekeAxel Před 5 lety +18

      @@kefeer123 I'm pretty sure the See-See-See-Pee was intentional.

  • @KonstaKokC
    @KonstaKokC Před 5 lety +364

    1936: Lets put a Bolt hold open to our new gun - ok, cool
    2018: AK-12 accepted into service - ooh we don't need that

    • @sqeeye3102
      @sqeeye3102 Před 5 lety +54

      @@quentintin1 It's more than just the quality of life upgrade of pushing a button, a bolt hold-open shows you when you are empty very clearly (instead of dropping the hammer on nothing) and also makes it easier to insert a fully loaded magazine. There are plenty of aftermarket solutions to the problem including AK pattern rifles made from the factory with bolt hold-opens integral to the rifle. It really is a stupid decision to not implement something so simple and useful into your new military rifle.

    • @sqike001ton
      @sqike001ton Před 5 lety +15

      @@sqeeye3102 true the bolt hold mags are good Hungarian or yugo ones I believe but you still have to run the bolt as when you drop the mag the bolt slams home

    • @konstantinavilov1192
      @konstantinavilov1192 Před 5 lety +54

      As I think, the real reason for no bolt hold open in the final military version of AK-12 is that the army wanted full back-compatibility with stock AK-74 mags (which are stored in gazillions by the army). In fact, the final AK-12 is a reworked AK-74, unlike the first iteration of AK-12, which was a truly new and very progressive gun.

    • @80m63rM4n
      @80m63rM4n Před 5 lety +24

      Still crying over the AK-12 they killed.

    • @user-ys2eq7mg1k
      @user-ys2eq7mg1k Před 5 lety +12

      @@sqeeye3102 I believe the reason behind "no bolt hold open device" is backward compatibility with millions of standart AK-74 mags in service. There is no way to replace it in foreseen future, so why bother with hold open? Plus many people don't push button, they just rack the bolt, even on ARs and pistols.

  • @user-sp8ew8yk9k
    @user-sp8ew8yk9k Před 5 lety +267

    This is a Russian school, which is unique in that each designer adds something different. There is no task to make a commercial profit from the project, there is a goal, to give the army a cheap, convenient, reliable weapon. In the selection process, the final product gets the best items. When developing the Famous SVD rifle (Dragunov Rifle) Simnonov (ABC) also participated in the competition, it was not the best. As a result, he transferred all his achievements and experience to Dragunov. Dragunov developed only sports weapons (accurate but gentle). Ultimately, the Russian army received the best sample that is accurate and works as a "soldier", in the mud and cold. In its unique approach to the problem.

    • @MrMaxStalsky
      @MrMaxStalsky Před 4 lety +17

      Михаил Сабанцев вот вам и сравнения двух экономических систем. Вот только я бы назвал это Советской школой. Именно при советской власти деньги ни значили почти ничего. Сейчас и при царях бабки считали еще как. Особенно это видно по первой мировой и по чеченским войнам.

    • @Irregular_John
      @Irregular_John Před 4 lety +20

      Sarmax Полностью поддерживаю. Fully concur my Russian compatriot. The whole algorithm of how the weapons were built in USSR (without concern about profit limiting the end result) clearly demonstrates the difference between socialist/communist and capitalist socio-economic formations.

    • @Bialy_1
      @Bialy_1 Před 4 lety +24

      "In its unique approach to the problem." yea it is called in the free world "lie to the very end"... even only few years before USSR colapse this crapy system was promoted as the best by propaganda similar to the one that you provided here.
      Something so simple as bicycle was only a dream for most of the citizens when this country was producing millions of weponds similar to the one that we can see in the video so the Red Army can spread the comunistic revolution to all the countries where people was dreaming about cars as they was able to buy a bike...
      Golden Age for USSR was after WW2 when stealing from Central Europe started but it could not last forever. Even war reparation from Germany to Poland(the most destroyed country during that war) were stolen by "noble" USSR...
      that btw started this war hand by hand with Germany. Poland in sep 1939 was attacked by Germany and USSR not to mention that they agreed before the war started that USSR gonna end up with over 51% of the Polish territory!

    • @strahinjastevic7480
      @strahinjastevic7480 Před 3 lety +18

      @@Bialy_1 stfu

    • @vulekv93
      @vulekv93 Před 3 lety +5

      @@Bialy_1 Profits don't exclude patriotism. And that communistic system really failed. State would dictate what kind of shoes you can wear, what kind of food you can eat... It was insane.

  • @01ZombieMoses10
    @01ZombieMoses10 Před 5 lety +44

    I find it really quite remarkable that even after the complete and total upheaval of the revolution and the following terrifying in-fighting, the brand new Soviet Union did not let grass grow under its feet. Despite whatever you may think about Russian culture and the state of their politics in any given era, you have to admire their ability to get on with pushing the envelope no matter how uncertain and dangerous the present may be.

    • @IceWolfLoki
      @IceWolfLoki Před 5 lety +6

      To be fair though one of the reasons that the revolution was able to take hold was because the failure of the Imperial Army during WW1 because they were poorly equipped and supplied had the Tsar been able to equip and supply his armies adequately it's likely morale would have been better and the situation not devolved into revolution or alternativly the Revoultion would have been easy to put down. I suspect the Soviets didn't want to see a repeat of those situations.

    • @Blazo_Djurovic
      @Blazo_Djurovic Před 4 lety +7

      Well, one of the benefits of the revolution was that it swept away a lot of limitations due to class on who could do what. It still didn't mean anyone could advance everywhere, if your background was labeled as reactionary you'd have issues, but that applied to a much smaller segment of population. So in turn a LOT of junior engineers who weren't factory owners and like stayed and were studdenly given pretty much free reign to submit designs to central requests. Plus communists were REAAAALY interested in being or appearing modern, and breaking with the old traditions. So if something was something new that was looked at as a newfangled thing in the West, and Soviets could manufacture that (their main issues were manufacturing often not being up to snuff AND having gaping holes in theoretical side given that a lot of academy people fled) they were fiddling with it a LOT during 20s and early 30s.

    • @CharlesGaines
      @CharlesGaines Před 4 lety +4

      People were pumped to be part of something new and probably pretty exciting.

    • @fkboyStalin
      @fkboyStalin Před 9 měsíci +1

      Soviets were not only Russians.

  • @belakkale
    @belakkale Před 5 lety +73

    There was one more interesting feature - its bayonet had a position that allowed it to function as monopod. That was canceled on last period of production, as well as 20 round mags

  • @danapatelzick594
    @danapatelzick594 Před 5 lety +28

    These Russian designs are always interesting, the designers must have paid attention in their physics classes. The axis of the barrel on this rifle looks to be just slightly above the point of contact on the shoulder. The Garand's barrel position was in the more classic position where the barrel length provided the most accurate location for iron sights. Pretty cool.

  • @MasterOfHelium
    @MasterOfHelium Před 5 lety +52

    It is curious to know that Simonov was the apprentice of Fedorov. because this gun actually shows it, both from the outside aesthetically and some of the inner shapes and mechanics too!

  • @leojampolsky3226
    @leojampolsky3226 Před 3 lety +17

    The numbers could represent different factories, that produced specific parts. It was a custom in USSR. We had a "Zhiguli" car, that the numbers on the parts were from different factories. You could buy a brand new bicycle, that was made in different republics of the soviet union.

  • @TacticalUniverse
    @TacticalUniverse Před 5 lety +200

    I would pay many many moneys for this gun....but... I don't have many many moneys.

    • @maximilienrobespierre7927
      @maximilienrobespierre7927 Před 5 lety +29

      It is unfortunate when you only have little little moneys.

    • @elwayfan01
      @elwayfan01 Před 5 lety +38

      Don't you hate it when you have 3 kids and no money, when you'd rather have no kids and 3 money?

    • @goldenislands8142
      @goldenislands8142 Před 5 lety +5

      Est 18,000$-25,000$, current bid 12,000$. POCKET CHANGE! :P

    • @TheGearhead222
      @TheGearhead222 Před 5 lety +3

      Could have bought an SVT-40 when they came in , but remember that they required a special tool for adjusting the gas system, which at the time was very hard to locate, although people began making repro's later. That plus they were relatively $ to me at the time and I discovered that they had other issues as mentioned. Still , a fascinating gun as a collectable shooter-the Germans thought enough of them that they used any example of this design that they found! Shot a friends SVT-40 and was impressed at how well the gas system dampened the recoil, plus the gun was just as accurate, IMHO, as a Mosin-Nagant 91-30--John in Texas

  • @bengttolkis8646
    @bengttolkis8646 Před 5 lety +14

    The "extra" flapper locks work as an out battery safety and they also double as an full auto sear, so they are quite essential for this type of locking, striker and sear combo.

  • @ivanhecimovic5272
    @ivanhecimovic5272 Před 5 lety +225

    I have a picture of my grandfather with sniper verzion of this rifle

    • @nathan655555
      @nathan655555 Před 5 lety +52

      Would love to see it

    • @ObsoleteVodka
      @ObsoleteVodka Před 5 lety +52

      You could scan it and upload it somewhere. Please share it with us if you do!

    • @Pajdas610
      @Pajdas610 Před 5 lety +4

      Paški Sir dobro ime haha.

    • @justineallandevelos6491
      @justineallandevelos6491 Před 5 lety +1

      But this rifle never went into service you must be referring to the SVT-40 with a scope?

    • @Random-os3md
      @Random-os3md Před 5 lety +8

      Justine allan Develos actually this gun went into service into 1940 and replaced by SVT 38 & 40

  • @davidkohler7454
    @davidkohler7454 Před 3 lety +17

    This is a work of art in gunsmithing.all of the Geometry involved is just crazy. It's obvious that more things were discovered and then simplified. But they really put a lot of good effort into this weapon. All of the metal dovetailing and machinework is amazing. I can really appreciate this one .

  • @yurijsmislov2190
    @yurijsmislov2190 Před 4 lety +30

    Как мало осталось рабочих образцов это винтовки и в таком хорошем состоянии. Спасибо за обзор.

  • @FEDsShotMOM
    @FEDsShotMOM Před 3 lety +26

    it blows my mind the interesting lives these designers lived. from being an armory extra hand/custodian, to being taken in my famous designers to eventually designing one of the most common weapons on the planet

  • @PlanetRibooted
    @PlanetRibooted Před 5 lety +40

    It’s really cool to see many of the elements carried through to the SKS, in this much earlier rifle.

    • @spinosaurusiii7027
      @spinosaurusiii7027 Před 11 měsíci

      Yeah. From the AVS to the SVT, but then also to the PTRS, and from there to the SKS

  • @0115Heather
    @0115Heather Před 5 lety +18

    It looks like they took an sks, a mosin, and a tokarev; put them all together and then mixed in a little bit of lhati and a mini14.... Soviet weapons are always such cool looking machines as well. Thank you for the video and the history lesson.

  • @samuel88andrews
    @samuel88andrews Před 5 lety +113

    From my semester of Russian I believe its pronounced "See-mon-ov". My Russian history teacher, who's Russian also mentioned him in class pronouncing his name like that.

  • @Mrgunsngear
    @Mrgunsngear Před 5 lety +134

    great info as always

    • @SilverWolfM200LDH
      @SilverWolfM200LDH Před 3 lety +2

      That's why I love this channel, I always learn something-I thought the Soviet's first infantry rifle was the SKS.

  • @nicksande6880
    @nicksande6880 Před 5 lety +77

    Reznov? A name we havent heard of?
    Cutting the jokes this rifle does look interesting

  • @HappyBeezerStudios
    @HappyBeezerStudios Před 3 lety +8

    the whole dis and reassembly makes this thing a genius construction.

  • @kyuzotatsuya9641
    @kyuzotatsuya9641 Před 4 lety +7

    I love how the trigger system works, it looks so complex disassembled but once you see it working its beautifully simple

  • @zanedeklerk
    @zanedeklerk Před 5 lety +10

    Ian you are such an angel for making these videos, without you a lot of firearms would go, well, forgotten. Very impressive that you upload everyday. I've been watching your videos for years and I think the way you have kept the quality high is very commendable.

  • @necrothitude
    @necrothitude Před 5 lety +6

    These detailed teardowns are absolutely fantastic! Seeing the mechanics and learning how different designs all evolved and were informed by each other is seriously fun.

  • @somnitek
    @somnitek Před 4 lety +7

    Loved that little exposition on the functioning of the trigger. I always had trouble picturing that sorta thing in my head but watching that pretty much cleared up any questions I could have possibly had. That was great! Thank you!

  • @YugoslavGamer
    @YugoslavGamer Před 5 lety +85

    2:23 Reznov? Chernov! You walk.

    • @FL0D0S
      @FL0D0S Před 5 lety +7

      Apparently his design was so bad he got sent to a labour camp! Or maybe his number just came up?

    • @codystickler8779
      @codystickler8779 Před 3 lety

      I was rhinking the same thing hahah

  • @rodstalwart2659
    @rodstalwart2659 Před 5 lety +6

    Thank you very much Ian for that semi and auto mechanism function you discussed on this firearm. It is so far the best of the video presentation. I could ask for nothing more. Excellent. God keep you brother!

  • @Arthurzeiro
    @Arthurzeiro Před 5 lety +212

    And yet the us took all that time to put a box magazine on the M1.

    • @baker90338
      @baker90338 Před 5 lety +27

      They had to work trying to convert a M1 to use box mags until they flipped the table and re did the action

    • @thegoldencaulk2742
      @thegoldencaulk2742 Před 5 lety +104

      And the Italians did it in a fraction of the time anyway with the BM-59. The M14 is a travesty.

    • @kennieminski7080
      @kennieminski7080 Před 5 lety +19

      A travesty, really? The only mechanical problems I am aware of are the finicky rock and lock magazines and firing 308 in full auto from the shoulder. So what about the rifle would lower it to the level of 'travesty'?
      You can't really blame it's development time on the rifle itself that squarely lies on the American ordinance board being its usual derpy self.

    • @dylanwebb5199
      @dylanwebb5199 Před 5 lety +20

      @@kennieminski7080 until you get a minute amount of dirt/sand/mud in that EXPOSED bolt. But other than that in semi auto it's a fine rifle.

    • @kennieminski7080
      @kennieminski7080 Před 5 lety +11

      @@dylanwebb5199 So the m1 garand is a travesty as well then?
      Or the sks?

  • @belakkale
    @belakkale Před 5 lety +15

    and btw, this rifles first time saw action in 1939 in USSR-Japan conflict

  • @craigwarby2188
    @craigwarby2188 Před 5 lety +9

    What a fantastic rifle. So much history right there.
    I’m from the UK, don’t own any guns, I love the history and engineering that is featured in every video that you create. Great work 👍🏼

  • @Nightwindale
    @Nightwindale Před 5 lety +4

    I've waited for so long for this piece to appear, thanks Ian! Also, although you were already corrected by folks about pronunciation of "Simonov", i clearly remember that you got it right in some early videos (probably PTRS, don't remember for sure now).

  • @polduseri909
    @polduseri909 Před 5 lety +5

    Very impressed with your explanation. You did a great job in explaining the whole functionality of the rifle. I wish one day to be able to know just a little bit of hw my own guns works. Thank you!

  • @Requeium
    @Requeium Před 3 lety +3

    Not gonna lie for how early this rifle is some of this firearm is brilliant. I love some of the design directions Simonov took and it has some very slick ways of passing hurdles. From that floating seer bar the elevator locking block i love this firearm. Thanks ian again for a fantastic bit of educational engineering history!

  • @aries_9130
    @aries_9130 Před 5 lety +1

    This is so awesome. Thank you very much for the video, Ian!

  • @goneutt
    @goneutt Před 5 lety +5

    It's always amazing to see the ingenuity that goes into weapons design. And a good amount of this was stamped metal.

  • @bigdogbourne
    @bigdogbourne Před 5 lety +31

    short video about Stryker fire vs hammer like your short stroke vs long stroke? just an idea. keep up great work.

    • @HappyBeezerStudios
      @HappyBeezerStudios Před 3 lety +1

      when bringing up striker/hammer fired might as well throw in single/double action in the same round.

  • @Aravzil
    @Aravzil Před 5 lety

    What an incredibly interesting video. You really went into the details with the mechanism.

  • @workingmansdead44-ug8hl

    Always fascinating, informative and entertaining content,Ian.

  • @rickyracestrickland8927
    @rickyracestrickland8927 Před 2 lety +6

    As simplistic as the Russians like their weapons to be,I could never imagine them trying to MASS produce these rifles right smack in the middle of a war!!! Ian is right about it being a good example of early automatic weapons alright. It's unnecessary busy compared to the simpler weapons we see today. Especially Russian weapons. The "3 lock"locking system is unreal!!!! On the other hand....I wish someone with good milling knowledge would produce quality reproductions of weapons like these,or the G43,etc. There's not enough originals to go around for those of us highly interested in these old kind of guns.

  • @ThreenaddiesRexMegistus
    @ThreenaddiesRexMegistus Před 4 lety +3

    That’s a clever but busy locking system. I expect it would give problems with dirt intrusion, but do so safely. The trigger design is also ingenious. There’s a lot going on inside there!

  • @tianyuanxia6270
    @tianyuanxia6270 Před 5 lety

    Finally, I have expected this for a long time. Thank you!

  • @parrotraiser6541
    @parrotraiser6541 Před 5 lety

    Ingeniously intricate. It's a pleasure watching Ian dismantle things.

  • @EchosTackyTiki
    @EchosTackyTiki Před rokem +15

    Me: _I bet this gun was well liked, it was probably really controllable and a great shooter compared to other semiautomatic rifles in the market at the time like the RSC and the Farquhar-Hill._
    Ian at 4:25: "This gun is actually select fire."
    Me: 😦

    • @ToriusHeart
      @ToriusHeart Před rokem +2

      I mean, the A part of the AVS designation should have tipped you off that its a full auto rifle

  • @Purpmaster
    @Purpmaster Před 5 lety +3

    My god this thing is complex. Would be a nightmare to disassemble in the field lol. Awesome gun, great video. 👍

  • @Chetanoo
    @Chetanoo Před 5 lety +2

    Thank you for you job Yan. That's a lot of history knowledge.

  • @williamjacobs236
    @williamjacobs236 Před 2 lety

    Another great video Ian .

  • @markcockerill451
    @markcockerill451 Před 5 lety +6

    The small wedges on the side are not locking lugs they hold the striker back till it’s in battery . For full auto fire

  • @fp4592
    @fp4592 Před 5 lety +80

    СССP on the stock has actualy "SSSR" pronounce: as Soyus Sovyetskih Sotsialisticheskih Respublic (USSR)

    • @Jari_Kuusisto
      @Jari_Kuusisto Před 4 lety +4

      Try to say that fast with a marshmallow in your mouth...

    • @drdnout
      @drdnout Před 4 lety +2

      @@Jari_Kuusisto Tikkurilla!

    • @blago998
      @blago998 Před 3 lety +2

      @@Jari_Kuusisto easy

  • @chriske3283
    @chriske3283 Před 5 lety

    Have been waiting for this video!

  • @gothia1715
    @gothia1715 Před rokem +2

    Such an interesting time of fire arms developement. Especially when it comes to self loading rifles and machine guns. There werent proven best systems yet so the engineers had to try out alot of stuff and had to come up with new ideas. Even tho many things about the AVS arent ideal its still incredible how smart many of the solutions were.

  • @johnmorgan1629
    @johnmorgan1629 Před 5 lety +38

    So the screws a travel limiter, bit like British Prison Officer!

  • @Jerry-dk8se
    @Jerry-dk8se Před 5 lety +7

    Interesting rifle. But I can see the roots of the SKS in this design. Simonov definitely did a lot of engineering to get that mousetrap to work, and fortunately, designed a more simpler trigger and sear arrangement for the SKS. Thanks for your simplified explanation of this rare piece.

  • @nopenopenopenope194
    @nopenopenopenope194 Před 5 lety +2

    I love these guns, the AVS-36, SVT-38 and SVT40. I own an SVT40 and it is art. It vertically strings shots but I still love it.

  • @McDylanNuggets
    @McDylanNuggets Před 5 lety +1

    This one was great! With these were in 4K. I hope that's an upgrade coming to this channel soon!

  • @johngz3413
    @johngz3413 Před 5 lety +7

    that is a beautiful piece of hardware and you could have used the front pin edge as your screw driver to remove the triger guard... no tools

  • @CornishMoose
    @CornishMoose Před 5 lety +6

    That’s a pretty nice looking rifle!

  • @TheSuperCanucks
    @TheSuperCanucks Před 3 lety

    Just noticed you uploaded this on my birthday last year, thank you

  • @warrenwilkinson9689
    @warrenwilkinson9689 Před 5 lety

    thanks Ian! yet another great history piece

  • @keenanmcbreen7073
    @keenanmcbreen7073 Před 5 lety +15

    "OH! And it didnt hurt that Stalin knew Tokarev, and liked Tokarev." Minor detail lol

    • @sadwingsraging3044
      @sadwingsraging3044 Před 4 lety +2

      Not a chance it had any bearing on the final outcome. Coincidence I'm sure!

  • @Yuri-gg6nv
    @Yuri-gg6nv Před 5 lety +13

    That Rifle is the bane of my whole existence...

    • @YeeMacghyee
      @YeeMacghyee Před 5 lety +2

      If you’re referring to heroes and generals, the germans are way worse, especially the stg 44.

    • @Yuri-gg6nv
      @Yuri-gg6nv Před 5 lety +1

      @@YeeMacghyee actually yes, i am reffering to H&G, but i am Main on Soviets, so i was actually reffering to the lack of AVS 36 videos on CZcams( the gun itself, not in Games)

  • @Shadowreacon8
    @Shadowreacon8 Před 5 lety

    I've been waiting for this video forever.

  • @AnalogWolf
    @AnalogWolf Před 2 lety

    Fascinating! Thanks for all this cool info.

  • @randywatson8347
    @randywatson8347 Před 5 lety +9

    I love this example. The tech that went into this in the 30's is just mazing!

  • @besposhadniyNAFTIZIN
    @besposhadniyNAFTIZIN Před 4 lety +39

    I can’t imagine how it can be thought up without computers, 3D modelling programs, without LSD ...

    • @oscarbaezsoria1650
      @oscarbaezsoria1650 Před 4 lety +3

      Real talent?

    • @MrMaxStalsky
      @MrMaxStalsky Před 4 lety +5

      And without calculators. Just blueprints and a endless imagination.
      Think about the Apollo missions. They had no CAD, no PC as we know it now. No calculators. Just drowning boards, pencils and a tone of imagination.
      more people struggle, more they are inventive. If you leave your population just partying and relaxing in peace and prosperity they will get dumb and lazy as fuck in a generation. Thats what we see now all around the world. Better living you have, worst result you achieve. In general.

    • @besposhadniyNAFTIZIN
      @besposhadniyNAFTIZIN Před 4 lety

      @@oscarbaezsoria1650 it's real magic ;)

    • @besposhadniyNAFTIZIN
      @besposhadniyNAFTIZIN Před 4 lety +4

      @@MrMaxStalsky unfortunately, you are absolutely right! But in Soviet Union all population of the country had approximately the same standard of living, diligence + inborn talents allowed any person to become an engineer - education was free for everyone!

    • @benzylmethane157
      @benzylmethane157 Před 4 lety

      Without LSD)))
      Good joke)

  • @HonduDan
    @HonduDan Před 5 lety

    Nothing against you Ian, you're exceptional man. Extremely knowledgeable and very well spoken on the subjects of your videos. However, if I have to see the ad for iTarget where the guy pronounces it "ertergert" one more time, I'm going to scream!

  • @Verdunveteran
    @Verdunveteran Před 5 lety +1

    Cool! I have been waiting for a video on this one! :D We have a deactivated one, lacking its magazine, in GMHV's collections at Hässleholms Museum in Hässleholm, Sweden. it was most likely brought back as a war trophy from the Finno-Soviet Winter War of 1939-1940 by a Swedish Volunteer Corps soldier from the regiment here in Hässleholm. My grand father did his military service here and served in the Swedish Volunteer Corps during the Winter War aswell.

  • @moehoward01
    @moehoward01 Před 5 lety +21

    I can see why it was quickly replaced. A very expensive rifle to produce.

    • @Pheonixco
      @Pheonixco Před 5 lety

      "expensive"

    • @ScottKenny1978
      @ScottKenny1978 Před 5 lety +3

      Not like the Tokarev rifles were significantly simpler/cheaper...

    • @2dollarchickenwings689
      @2dollarchickenwings689 Před 3 lety +1

      @@ScottKenny1978 They were, though. A lot less complex parts. Also, there isn't the issue of it's main point of interest having very situational use.

  • @teppokuusisto144
    @teppokuusisto144 Před 5 lety +4

    Side-note:
    Svenska Frivilligkåren (SFK) aka Swedish Volunteer Corps whom held the section in northern Finland during the latter parts of the Winter war captured these from the Soviets in the battles of Märkäjärvi/Salla (Lapland).
    That is the base for the lineage from Simonov AVS-35 / AVS-36 to Automatgevär m/42 (Ljungman AG-42).

  • @sergeyvasilyev6728
    @sergeyvasilyev6728 Před 5 lety +1

    Ian, he is surely SEE - MO - NOV (Симонов). Thanks for great video!!! (and for appreciating work of Soviet constructors)

  • @bwhog
    @bwhog Před 2 lety

    Interesting mechanism. I don't know nearly as much about the mechanics of these things as I ought to so I always find these demonstrations useful.

  • @vii7031
    @vii7031 Před 5 lety +80

    Are you planning on filming the PTRS rifle?

    • @ForgottenWeapons
      @ForgottenWeapons  Před 5 lety +97

      When I find a suitable example, definitely

    • @AlASokolov
      @AlASokolov Před 5 lety +4

      @@ForgottenWeapons Can this AVS to shoot? Do you plan to shoting range?

    • @tristanholland6445
      @tristanholland6445 Před 5 lety +1

      @@AlASokolov he did show a short clip of himself firing an AVS36 so I assume he has a fourth coming firing video. Posted a very short clip of himself firing an AVS on Facebook maybe a month ago

    • @TheGearhead222
      @TheGearhead222 Před 5 lety +4

      Amazing that MARSTAR in Canada sold the PTRD and PTRS legally to the masses at one time in Canada!:
      forums.gunboards.com/showthread.php?402149-PTRS-anti-tank-rifle
      Unfortunately, it looks like there are proposed laws to change classification of .50 and larger caliber ammo there-John in Texas

  • @kurtvanduran7725
    @kurtvanduran7725 Před 5 lety +15

    @2:24 Reznov... so he lives.

  • @zupperm
    @zupperm Před 5 lety +2

    I always love when something is brilliantly simple and too complex at the same time.

  • @kbjerke
    @kbjerke Před 5 lety

    That is ELEGANTLY complicated! Reminds me a bit of the C96 Mauser pistol. Thanks for the vid!

  • @ComradeBenedict
    @ComradeBenedict Před 3 lety +3

    Did CZcams make a new rule about gun prices? I could've sworn that sale prices for auction guns used to be in the description, but I haven't seen a single one lately

    • @Redmenace96
      @Redmenace96 Před 3 lety +1

      I noticed that, too. We are all interested in prices.

  • @joshualance6005
    @joshualance6005 Před 5 lety +15

    The garand is still the first infantry wepon to be issued to every infantryman. The avs36 and svt38/40 were specialist wepons and never replaced the mosin nagant 1891

    • @ScottKenny1978
      @ScottKenny1978 Před 5 lety +7

      The SVT38/40 were intended to replace the Mosin. But then Germany invaded and the Soviets needed all the guns they could get. And they did make 1.5million SVT40s! Not exactly specialist issue, all the Naval Infantry got them.

    • @joshualance6005
      @joshualance6005 Před 5 lety +1

      @@ScottKenny1978 yes they made 1.5 million but they had 20million men they had to arm by the end of the war. Plus the Russian found out they were kinda finicky. They gave them to specialized troops that would keep them clean and to second line troops in places that didn't have harsh conditions

  • @Deliverygirl
    @Deliverygirl Před 5 lety +2

    What a beautiful set of innards this weapon has. Absolutely crazy, love it!

  • @user-wx3wc4bo7c
    @user-wx3wc4bo7c Před 4 lety +2

    When I still owned a SVT 40 that was a real commitment to clean after a day of shooting....

  • @Mongo63a
    @Mongo63a Před 5 lety +19

    Relying on a spring to pull the locking block out of engagement seems like an area that would result in a lot of issues.

    • @williamsullivan9401
      @williamsullivan9401 Před 5 lety +1

      I was wondering about that, but I think the gas block pushes it down.

    • @vulekv93
      @vulekv93 Před 3 lety +2

      @@williamsullivan9401 No it doesn't, spring is driving it downwards, if that spring fails when it gets hot and fouled locking lug might stick to the bolt.

  • @comNartheus
    @comNartheus Před 5 lety +5

    On stress patterns - they are kinda opposite in English and Russian. I’ve noticed this for both names and adopted words. It is especially noticeable for Latin (a lot of words, especially scientific terms were adopted by both languages from a Latin or “Neolatin”) so when a Russian talks about science in English most of us who are not used to this specific activity are usually mispronouncing Latin terms, slipping into Russian characteristic stress placements.
    And I know 0 native English speakers who pronounce Russian names correctly at leas half of times and vice versa.

    • @nicholaspatton5590
      @nicholaspatton5590 Před 5 lety

      I have always wondered how "3" ended up in your alphabet. Though it probably is not a three (3).

    • @comNartheus
      @comNartheus Před 5 lety +1

      Nicholas Patton afaik it was derived from Greek letter zeta, as all our alphabet was derived from Greek originally.

    • @5roundsrapid263
      @5roundsrapid263 Před 5 lety +1

      Андрей Назариков Yes, from Greek missionaries Cyril and Methodius, hence the name Cyrillic.

  • @cheesenoodles8316
    @cheesenoodles8316 Před 4 lety +1

    The secret life of the AVS 36 .... I watch this 3/4 times. Makes you appreciate the MAS 40....er MAS 44. Great video .... a rare rifle....

  • @MrMaxStalsky
    @MrMaxStalsky Před 4 lety

    I learned the word “akin” today thx to that amazing channel. It weird how much words are there that not every English native speaker knows. YT is the best English teacher ever.

    • @MrMaxStalsky
      @MrMaxStalsky Před 4 lety

      why you pronounce it with A sounding like “R” bit without the “rrr”, not as a standard “A” (ei)?
      Its so damn weird in some cases to hear that clear “A” in English;)

  • @user-ch5wg9iy8q
    @user-ch5wg9iy8q Před 5 lety +3

    Thank you for the review rare and in Russia automatic guns! Looking at the disassembly, you understand why the leadership of the red army chose in 1938 SVT-38...

  • @stevenfrost6441
    @stevenfrost6441 Před 5 lety +7

    The Soviet's have a really rich history in firearms..as a Military History buff I always remembered them by the "Five Kov's:" Fyodorov, Kalashnikov, Siminov, Tokarev and Makarov. I am proud to say I own at least one of each of the last 4 men's designs!

    • @user-rj1cc3ku5y
      @user-rj1cc3ku5y Před 3 lety

      Do you know about Vasiliy Degtyarev (Василий Дегтярёв)? This man is creator for a lot soviet infantry weapons in WWII. SMG PPD, light machine guns - DP-27, DT (tank version), RPD, RP-46 (belt-feeding conversion of DP), heavy machine gun - DShK and DShKM and anti-tank rifle PTRD. All of those guns was aproved in army service, and some of them still in the russian army reserve in present time

    • @TheBucketSkill
      @TheBucketSkill Před 2 lety

      @@user-rj1cc3ku5y Can't forget Degtyarev! I forgot he made DSHk!! I mainly think of the DP-27 believe it or not I seen some Balkan countries still use DP27. I think it is outdated because of PKM, but DSHk still in use heavily all over the middle east. Famously mounted on toyota.

  • @darthpatricius
    @darthpatricius Před 5 lety

    that was really fascinating, thanks

  • @anandanurag
    @anandanurag Před 3 lety

    Thank you for interesting video!

  • @brucebaxter6923
    @brucebaxter6923 Před 5 lety +5

    Nice design.
    I wonder if the toggle locks are as much a fire out of battery device as they are a backup locking mechanism.

  • @loquat4440
    @loquat4440 Před 5 lety +8

    I suspect that the locking flaps are more intended to ensure that that the bolt carrier and bolt are all the way forward before the firing pin/striker can actually hit the primer. If everything is not fully forward the bottom locking piece will not be push up into position. I wonder if that gun started out as solely locked by the flaps like on the DP-28 and for some reason they decided an additional locking area was needed.

    • @Hagop64
      @Hagop64 Před 5 lety +2

      I was trying to figure out how it functioned on full auto since the sear is completely disengaged. You're right about the flaps being needed. Without the flaps there would be nothing holding back the striker/firing pin essentially turning it into an open bolt/fixed firing pin setup after the first round is fired on full auto.

  • @panzerzh9864
    @panzerzh9864 Před 5 lety

    Special thanks for this video!

  • @Connor-dl4hq
    @Connor-dl4hq Před rokem +1

    2:20 “Also lots of names you’ve never heard of, Reznov…”
    We may not know of this one, but we ALL know of Victor Reznov

  • @Tekdruid
    @Tekdruid Před 5 lety +5

    The design of that primary locking block is really interesting.
    I wonder if they used that in any other rifles?

    • @wills2140
      @wills2140 Před 5 lety +1

      They didn't really, but Thompson had the "Blish lock" in his Sub machine gun and some prototype rifles, starting in 1926.

    • @alaskanbullworm5500
      @alaskanbullworm5500 Před 5 lety +1

      The Japanese type 96/99 machine guns had a similar locking block.

    • @jubuttib
      @jubuttib Před 5 lety +2

      @@wills2140 The Blish lock though was more of a delaying system rather than a true lock, at least according to Ian's videos on the Thompson guns.

    • @joshualance6005
      @joshualance6005 Před 5 lety +2

      Its a flapper locked like on the dp28 mixed with a tilting block like on the sks

  • @vice6996
    @vice6996 Před 5 lety +10

    The smirk after “...even in Soviet Union labor terms...” 22:40

  • @SuperTelecom
    @SuperTelecom Před 5 lety

    Blessed be the day. I've been waiting for this for years.

  • @stacybrown3714
    @stacybrown3714 Před 5 lety +2

    Wonderful video. I like the trigger design. I may have to watch the auction for this one. Thanks.