"Vintage" Gear That Is RIDICULOUSLY Overpriced
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00:00 - Della Brown
0;15 - Q&A
01:10 - CE24 Comparisons
03:50 - IEM Hearing Issues?
05:46 - Life Experience
06:58 - RIDICULOUS Used Prices
13:02 - Leon's Hypocrisy
14:40 - Conclusion - Hudba
What's the craziest used gear trend you've seen?
the prices of 70's Fender & Gibsons! theyre dogs! and nowhere near the quality of what theyre making now..... yet the prices. Deluxe Memory Men, Tubescreamers and of course Klons. RAT pedals from the 80's.... cos guess what: the circuit is unchanged!!
The brief Bad Monkey insanity
Besides the pricing on the Klon Centaur...the pricing on secondhand EVH gear.
Marshall bluesbreaker overdrive / Squier JV strat / Marshall jcm900 dual reverb .
25 years ago it was inexpensive (bluesbreaker 40€ - Squier JV €400 - JCM900 €400). Now you find Bluesbreaker 500€ ,JVs for more than €1300 and JCM900s for €900!
early 70s MIJ guitar copies. all this LPs with bolt on necks, strats with truss rods covers & etc. they became decent, but closer to 80s. early copies aren't follow original body lines, sometimes they have strange wood options, ugly hardware and overall pure craftmanship. but there is an opinion, that if it's make in Japan - it's automatically good.
best gear that is ridiculously underpriced: Build Your Own Clones. they come in plain silver boxes though, so no bragging rights. but the tone is identical
General Guitar Gadgets are also fantastic. Best Ram's Head Muff I've ever played was a GGG kit
looks like a great small business for people in the USA. nice one!@@mattgilbert7347
A friend has been doing that. He now has dozens of pedals... and often gives them away to other friends or sells them privately. Not that he can't afford brand pedals, but he just likes to build stuff.
Have built a few of the BYOC pedals, they're a bargain!
built my own klon clone. 🤙🏼
The Rockman X100 has always baffled me pricewise...
now doubt
I love Rockmen and have 2 (Soloist and Bass). But the only reason I have them is because they were practically given away for free by people who didn't know what they had. I love the sound of them, but they're very limited in what they can do. Plus there are really good plugin emulations out there for at least 1/10 the price.
The 3 Best pieces of Gear I bought are: 1. HX Stomp 2. TwoNotes Torpedo Captor X 3. Charvel DK24 HH. All of these are in constant use either gigging recording constantly
Solid choices and a testament to how much good stuff is being made RIGHT NOW
I found an ADA MP1 at a garage sale a couple of years ago for $20. One battery swap and a stepdown transformer from jaycar and I was in action.
Ended up selling it for $400 after capturing it into my Moer Preamp Live. The buttons bugged me and it has a relatively high noise floor.
That's a CRAZY bargain
@@LeonTodd It wouldn't shift at $600, believe it or not. A month later I see them listed for $1k.
Wild!
I gave my MP1 away when I bought my Triaxis. I gave my Triaxis away when I bought my Fractal Axe-Fx Ultra. Never regretted any of it.
@@plantafantasma2060love your style and kindness. Just give it away and move on to better gear ❤
Got myself a 3tm MP1 after your first video demoing that unit. It just looked and sounded so cool hearing some sick Ratt riffs out of it. Had it shipped to my door by the seller for $220 Canadian dollars. Looking at the prices people are asking now, there's no way I'd pick one up. The Nembrini plugin does an amazing job and my JCM 800 20watt with a Boss Super Overdrive in front just does THE thing.
Happy Easter to you mate and Lupin , sounds like he had a lot to say about it being good Friday there in the background , thought he was gonna grace us with his presence for a sec. There is something to bolt ons that i have gotten reattached to from neck thrus vibs and glued in set necks.. PRS really out did themselves and got the vibe right with their bolt ons .. plus yours is as nice as an Anderson id say.. I have my cream heavy metal Squire with the Floyd and HSS thats a fav.. and a custom quilted fender strat that is a beaut ..the way josh gushes over other pedals no sooner than not their price becomes more ridiculous than ridiculous... Kinda like difference differences...... Glad you seem to know what Good Friday is all about mate... Thats what you call thats what its all about for the world to understand brother. ❌
Happy Easter Leon!
Oh yes!!! Della Brown. That is such a good song. I love the openness of it, very laid back.
I just played over the track this week, but as always Uncle Leon, you sounded way better than I did. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
That song blew my mind when i first got the Empire album!
Really fantastic life advice Leon - balance is so important. You’re a good human being dude 😊🙏🏽Always inspiring to hear your thoughts on these subjects. Here’s an interesting Q for you btw - I’ve noticed that you move your pick hand position around whilst playing, picking different areas of the strings between the bridge pickup and the neck pickup. I think I know why you do it, but would be awesome to hear your viewpoint about it and it might help some folks out too with technique, etc. Anyways, have an awesome day! Also, I’ve been meaning to send you my Ampero Stage patches - just a little thank you for the solos! It keeps slipping my mind but I will get them over to you soon 😊🙏🏽
I picked up (2) newer minty CE24s and I really dig the neck shape, pickups and coil tapping. I got one for 1.4k (US) and the other for 1.7k (US), so there are deals on these around. I think they play every bit as good as my Wood Library and other 2 cores.
Sounds similar to what I scored this for. A lot of guitar for the money!
Thank you for your great work, Leon! I hope, you will soon cross the 100k subs! Wish you all the best!
Thank you very much!
Hi Leon, is a Howitzer poweramp a great poweramp to use with the Myasnikov Angry As @#$% preamp for recording with a loadbox? (recording the reactive load in the signal chain really helps with getting a more malleable tone)
Happy Easter! Be on the lookout for the new Soldano rack preamp that’s coming out soon. 80s- style shredders love the rack stuff
I started collecting rack gear before this "rack renaissance" came about, I scored an ADA MP-1 and the matching MIDI foot controller for $100 at a yard sale, the serial number dates to 1988. It was one of those deals you couldn't walk away from, when rack gear was still unfashionable and cheap. Used it as my primary amp for over a decade. Now I go and check every once and awhile, and I'm blown away how much those have risen in price since when I bought it.
Hello Leon, love your channel mate!
Have you ever used the ADA "stomp" pedal that was released just a few years ago, or created a review video of that unit? If memory serves, I believe it was supposed to be sort of a pedal version reissue of the MP1. If so, you being someone who owns original rack unit versions, what are your thoughts on it? I did scroll through your uploads looking for a review video on it, but I didn't see any. Quite possible I may have overlooked it though. Thanks in advance!
Luckily I bought my ADA MP-1 in 1989 and MP-2 in 2005 😁👌😎👍
Leon you really seem to be bonding with that guitar! Congrats and looking forward to hearing more music from it!
So glad I decided to buy it. Very different to my other guitars while still being familiar.
In-ear monitors are so hard to dial in- especially the wireless ones. There's some kind of weird compression going on that makes it difficult to hear a proper mix without blowing your ears out. Plus they make me feel isolated from the crowd. Necessary if you're running tracks or click, though.
A good set of overheads makes a HUGE difference with IEM's. Instant vibe.
always great to see your videos legend!!
I appreciate that!
I bought a 1985 Mesa MKIIC+ short head in mint condition in HS (1990) for $400 cash. I sold it a couple years later for basically the same price, because I wanted a modern amp like a Recto and some rack gear. Still sad I did that lol. Although now that I've gone Fractal, I doubt it would get much play time.
Could have put an extra zero after that and it still would have been a bargain these days
@3:42 Leon ! I don't want to see you "doo doo" ! HAHA . Just messin' ! Love the channel !!!
Glad you are back
Totally concur about the Strat prices going up so much. I recently acquired a 1997 Collectors Series for an amp trade. It had already been modded with Suhr Pickups and Gold Evo Fretwire, (similar to Stainless), plus a new roller bearing nut. It still needed some work. The bridge was too wide for the neck, strings kept falling off the edge so I replaced it with a Floyd Rose Rail Tail and then I changed all pickups to Seymour Duncan Hotrails. Then changed the pickguard so I could only have one volume and one tone, I hate having the volume knob so close to my hand, with the volume being a push/pull to split the coils. Now we're talking! Point being, as you mentioned Leon, start with something and go from there. Starts were originally meant as something that could be easliy changed/fixed/modded no? Thank you Eddie and thanks for the content Leon! Up the irons!
Thanks you! I bought a TS-10 new when they came out and I got rid of it pretty quick. It felt plastic and cheap and for me I never liked the sound.
Let's hear that MP-2!! I always wanted to try one of those.
I'm in the market for a new Tube Amp Head. I saw the Mesa Boogie Mark VII I like that it has a USB IR to use headphones for the quiet times and crank it for gigging.
Does anyone know if the IR is any good?
About 20 years ago I had a buddy that bought an ADA MP1 that was supposedly owned by Frank Zappa and was used by Frank before he passed away. When he called and told me about it I drove right over and plugged it. It was lackluster to say the least. Like you said, they’re okay but modern gear can do those sounds no problem for a fraction of the price. My buddy was happy with owning the gear just for the story alone so it was a win for him but I wouldn’t buy one today for the prices they’re going for and with the options currently available.
That's a very cool story!
I agree. I just bought a MP1 off of Reverb that was re tubed and "professionally serviced" The Presets sound horrible. The cleans are OK but anything with gain sounds horrible. Maybe its just me but it sounds nothing like the demos I've seen on CZcams and ones I've head in the past. I tried a factory reset and put new tubes in but not much of a difference. Tomorrow I'm going to try and put the original v1.37 chip back into it to see if that helps. It has the newest version 2.01 in it now.
Speaking of MiJ have you ever had a chance to try out Vola Guitars especially the OZ RV TNC ?
Cheers 🤘
I’ve had a TS-10 for 30 years. It’s… OK.
I also have a TS-5, and I actually prefer the sound of that one, though it’s dodgy when it comes to the knobs and switch.
I had never heard of John Mayer when I bought the TS-10… though technically, we were at the same college at the same time.
If I met him while we were there, he apparently didn’t make an impression on me. Though I have met him 3 times since.
But, the couple of times anyone has asked me about the 10, I typically tell them to just go buy the JHS Bonsai. Cheaper. Same sound. More options.
I've got a few mates who have met JM and have said he's a lovely dude! Bonsai looks like such a winner
@@LeonTodd My interactions with him were fairly minimal… I was behind the sound board when he was doing a couple of clinics. But, no complaints.
I love my TS 10. I bought it because I couldn't afford the TS 9 which was already a bit overpriced (at least in my opinion) 25 years ago. Used price was about what you will pay for a cheap TS clone nowadays. Recently I bought some of those cheap clone pedals (Fuzz Face, Big Muff, Rat). They really do the job quite well sound wise. The Fuzz Face clone really gives you this great warm clean tone when you lower the volume of your guitar. But most my gear I do still buy used. So far none of the units failed on me and I only had one seller who didn't care when had his amp shipped to me-after shipping the tubes were broken.
So I got a lot of great experiences with buying good gear for reasonable prices on the used market. Don't really understand those hyped up prices.
'd love to see a video of you getting that MP1 sound with some Boss pedals and A-B them. That would be awesome!
The TS10 was my first pedal I ever bought in the 80's. I kept it in great shape as it was just for home use. When I saw what stupid prices people were paying, I sold it for $450 to a japanesse collector. It does have a slight discernable sound difference compared to other Ibanez tube screamer, but nothing earth shattering. And the 10 series are not build to last. The internal stomp switch is actually a computer keyboard button switch.
I agree with your assessment of the ADA MP-1. I was a long time user of those preamps. I owned 2. I paid $800 back in '92. Including the midi controller. I got the 2nd for $100. They were unpopular by then. I still used them. I sold one, kept the other. I still have my rack gear. Plan to get Synergy preamps to rebuild the rack. I have just been more into into tube heads, which I avoided due to having to play them loud with a cab. The Two Notes Torpedo tech really woke me up to what I was missing. I still love the ADA. I can still get great sounds from it. My favorite feature besides the midi is the compression on the solid state clean channel.
Do attenuators still burn up the tubes as fast as cranking the amp up loud?
@@jasondorsey7110 they are a reactive load. I guess it depends if you crank up the master or if you run higher watts then they are rated. I have not experienced going through tubes. I like the way the Two Notes Torpedo Captor 8 works, I use the direct out (non-speaker sim) to get preamp/poweramp signal to my stereo fx. The stereo outs run to my Two Notes Torpedo Cab M IR boxes to PA and a stereo power amp and cabs. Sounds killer and manageable volume or silent with headphones.
Older rev. Mesa Boogie Rectifier heads (Rev. F etc) are ridiculous! I couldn't really hear a difference between a rev. F and my 2 rev. G rackmount heads.
Hey Leon.
I just thought of a dumb specific question. If it's too dumb to answer I will understand. 😂
I was thinking I'm going to have to figure out the song Quicksand Jesus by Skidrow. That song on the Video of a live performance shows the guitar player using a black and white strat with single coils and the lead guitar really cuts. I'm wondering what amp model and delay and reverb settings and maybe EQ you would use for just that lead to get at least close to that sound of using a humbuckers guitar or would you just for sure for that song use a strat or something with singles or stacked singles to get it right? I'm asking because I'm not sure I can get that tone close enough with humbuckers. ?
Back in the day one had to have a guitar with humbuckers and a guitar with single coils to get both sounds and then you picked an amp and had pedals to change amp sounds, but luckily most amp sounds were either Fender or Marshall most of the time. We have it so good today with modellers and such. ❤ Gear is so much better in quality and consistency with CNC routers and such and with electronics and chips with all the power. I love it. ❤
My leg gets better all the time. I still have a slight limp and it's still difficult to walk very far and I won't be running any marathons soon, but I'm better and will continue to get better sir. !!!!
Thanks brother and I hope you and family and friends are well sir . God speed man❤
I was like that few years back and i wanted to play and own all the vintage pedals i can find.well some of these old vintage pedals are amazing .some are not .and i can agree with you mate there is zillion of overdrives and distortion pedals out there that do the job.but when it come to clean tone and unique nothing can beat a ts808 or od855.after all these years i sold and bought .i kept the 1st year ts808 narrow box 1979 and the 1978 od855 flying fingers ibanez and the boss od1 from 1978 as well as a wah cry baby 1968.the rest of the pedals are just modern reverbs and delay chorus stuff.also dont forget tone is in the fingers.⚘🙏👍🎸🎸❤🎸🙏
Some old stuff is great. Some of it is just old stuff :D
You made me want to improv over Della Brown too. 😂
Hi Leon-- watching you play, I notice that you use your pinkie a lot less than I do. Did you consciously work on reducing your reliance on the little guy? Ring fingers are obviously stronger and more accurate. Any insights or practice tips?
It's mostly a comfort thing. Pinky comes out in force for big stretch legato and shreddy stuff but bides it's time otherwise
I had a few, ADA MP-1 bought new in the late 80’s, MP-2, the rare ADA MQ-1 EQ and some other gear carvin quad X ….. after selling it all in 2007 I was able to buy 2 Les Paul’s, PRS CU24 “one off” and a Fender Deluxe Strat. I sold one LP but still have the others. Crazy
I think Fractual should put a tube preamp in the Axe FX. That would be like a ADA MP-1. Allow it to run through or bypass the tube circuit, maybe a tube for reverb and tremolo. He’ll the Carvin Quad X had 9 preamp tubes 😂 I wouldn’t miss my Synergy Syn 2 that I ran in a loop of the Axe FX 3 with synergy 50/50 Tube amp/cabs.
If a tube went out you could just switch channel to SS and run it like it is now. I’ve been playing since ‘87 and have not had a preamp tube go out, I have replaced them over the years.
Ahhh the good old Quad-X! Totally crazy inside that thing
I bought a TS10 years ago for $20. It worked fine, but I sold it when prices popped up over a hundred bucks. I figured it was dumb to hold on to a (then) 20+ year old pedal that wasn't particularly special. I remember when 808s and early TS9s were crazy because of SRV, and it seemed like a newer version of the same kind of dumb cycle. I now use a really cheap Behringer clone that does basically the same thing. There may be a very subtle difference, but nothing I can't adjust for on the numerous other EQ and gain options in the signal chain.
I had a 77 Strat and a 83-84 Squier SQ serial number Strat from Japan. Both 3 bolt neck/fat headstock but Squier neck was thin where the 77 had that thick bat like neck. Both fully stock and I A/B’d for days and sold the Fender. That Squier was build better and actually was heavier with much hotter pickups. Still have it 31 years later and don’t miss the Fender 77 one bit.
A family friend has an '83 Squier Tele that is incredible. Can't blame ya!
if i'm not mistaken i think Paul Gilbert got hearing damage/tinnitus through hours and hours of studio recording at volume through headphones
but IEMs if used correctly i think will definitely save your ears with the isolation/protection from other loud elements Drums (Cymbals + snare at volume will certainly destroy your ears) you can more consistently control the volume, that's been my experience so far in any case, no more loud tube amps but my back and ears are definitely thankful
while not vintage i think it's crazy seeing how new epiphone + gibson prices have skyrocketted in the last years, but that's a whole other topic
i think the advent of more larger music gear related portals (reverb etc..) has really pushed up prices in general, people have a benchmark or more stats on used gear that they can use, as an example a local thrift store regularly prices music stuff according to the average sold price on reverb or some other sites, no matter if that price is inflated or not
anyhow, have a great easter Leon
i'd recommend the american vintage 70's strat vs a real 70's strat
I would love an MP1 but unfortunately live in Perth so Leon owns them all! Looking forward to the review of the re fretted PRS, Tim has re fretted 2 guitars for me he's a genius.
He's next level! He's turned some of my mutts into show poodles.
The main problem with IEMs and hearing loss is damage occurs when you have live amps on a small stage and you’re crank the IEMs to rise above the amps. My band has gone completely zero amps on stage and drummer using electronic kits on small stages. It’s so lovely now. Yes I’m old.
Della Brown, excellent choice!
Haven't seen anyone mention Klons yet. I get the appeal from tbe sound. But it amazes me that authentic Klons are going for record prices now when there are so many copies for less than a couple hundred (Or $40 on wish).
I have a ts10 that was given to me back in the early 90's. Back then nobody really wanted them, a lot of people thought they looked cheaper than its predecessors and thought that it was a just a cheap pedal using the name. I've got to admit that I never really liked it and actually forgot about it for years until all the hype started. I recently got it out and compared it to all of my other overdrive pedals. My opinion of it still hasn't changed. I'm really only hanging on to it now until I find another piece of gear that I might want trade it for.
I had a TS10, because at the time, the 808 had been discontinued and I wanted to sound like SRV. I sold it for double the price I bought for it, so was very happy! It basically makes your tone really thin! I bought the duke of tone and it sounds great when I need that sound and it's tiny, no way would I be on a waiting list for the king of tone though! The JHS morning glory is pretty much has the same sound. I would say the the old BossSd1 could get most of those sounds. Probably better to invest in a good graphic EQ which can change any overdrive into a beast!
The TS10 doesn't make your tone really thin , the TS10 is the best pedal I've ever used for thick overdrive tones and it works incredible with every amp I tried it with .
Looking forward to your discussion about PRS necks. The new SE CE Satin perked my interest cause I want to play those Rust in Peace solos and my core Custom 22 wide-thin is missing two frets 😉😂😂😂. And I really don’t know anything about necks.
Leon, any chance you could demo your Club Kabarett tones? Or are they identical to the Ragdoll ones?
Video here - czcams.com/video/vOcfBIR4Tl4/video.html
Some similarities and some big differences!
Bought a Mooger Fooger 104m- Super Delay from Sweetwater for $800 when it first dropped and have never regretted it. The the older version 104z is still relatively low cost they go for around 1,100 still on reverb.
Amazing delays!
I got a TS-10 from Brashes for $75 in 93. Can't believe what people think they're worth now.
Great opener! Degarmo is the man!
I bought my ADA MP1 in 2007 from LA when the exchange rate was £1=2$, shipped it was still cheaper than a UK version. I do love it but I find it tiring to listen to after a while (much like the first two Extreme albums), totally not worth more than £250 though, the idea that they sell for almost as much as an original AxeFx is wild.
On IEM's crowd/ambiant mics go a long way to losing the isolation and desire to crank everything up. As someone who has played with and without IEMs (and just general hearing protection) for 20+ years, look after those ears kids/adults hearing loss and tinnitus isn't fun!
Adittionally if you think you do have hearing loss or tinnitus then go and get it checked out, week two of hearing aids here and it's transforming my life.
BEST advice I've heard in a while, and gospel that I try to live by:
At 14:37 - "Start with it right before you fix it!"
Certainly saves a lot of time and heartache that way!
plugging ears allows one to listen at lower volumes, the corollary is that cranking them is like putting a powerful laser beam in your ear. and yes, air moving in the room helps avoid the tendency to do the latter. sensitive subject. be careful people! cheers, d
When I ran in-ears a while back, I only had my guitar and my vocals in them. I have “slightly above average” buds. So I had my mix overall low so I could hear literally everything else from stage volume. I never really got into them honestly. I’m that guy that will bring my own powered wedges and just crank them. Just my preference…..
Leon, this totally fits your definition: Peavey Rockmaster. Owned 2, still play one live. TBH, we all know the RM is basically used by most as a rackmount Metal Zone w/tubes. Yet it is worth 4X what I paid for it! Mine is modded and the bees are tame. I run the gain as a SLO style "clean" and kick in a BE-OD as my main tone.
Holy! I just checked them on Reverb. I had one that I got for next to nothing and felt like I was getting an amazing deal selling it for $200.
Hmmm... Im glad I bought my MP1 when I did then. I paid $100 Canadian, because it had a dead battery and the shop owner didnt know if it was broken. I had no idea they went for that much now.. Crazy!
Yeah I used to see them from 100-250 all the time
Hey my beither. First and foremost thank you so much fornthe kind words. I lobe this channel and most aooreciate the answers and kind mentions sir..
I am recoverkng well, but slow. Yeah, broken tibias are not fun at 62. 😂.
I also am noy a John Mayer fan, but too each his own man. 😂
Looking cool is cool too. 😂
I wouod never spend tons of money om non rare gear. Evem rare gear if I cam get close enough . Im thrifty though as my grandfather would say. 😂
Cant wait to hear your review of the UAFX Lion which really interests me because I love Marshall tone and it has all the tomes or clean and dirt I would want...
You said the pickuos are different in that PRS compared to the HFS bass pickups whkch I have in my brothers ( currently mime 😂) PRS I am going to get EVOs on.. Which has more output may I ask?
Very cool video..
Thanks brother. Appreciate it. Very much man ❤
Tim...
Happy easter brother!
@@LeonTodd Same to you man. Thanks. ♥️🤘♥️🤘
Nice to hear a bit of Queensryche there 👍
I used to own a 1978 Telecaster. It looked great and had a lot of "mojo" but the pickups weren't great. In fact they weren't wax potted and squealed very easily. I had the bridge pickup wax potted, it improved things but my 2021 American Pro II Tele is a much better instrument. And now I see those 70s Teles going for 4K or more in Australia. Sold mine for 1500 in 2015!
Luckily There is awesome alternatives to everything! Most of the stuff is hyped up for absolutely no reason. But, there is always those cork sniffers that will pay 💰!!
Very true!
I’m an ADA fanboy and couldn’t agree more on the current MP-1 prices. Here in the U.S., I see them typically sell for around the $700 range. I’ve seen some listings for $1,200 or even $1,800. I got my most recent one for $450 and that’s really the top for what I would pay. But if you can find one in decent condition for less than that.....definitely grab it! You won’t be sorry..........
Della Brown is a great song... that clean guitar part in the background is so effective.
Amazing
The Peavey Vandenberg craze that I once started on Geocities/Yahoo! back in 1997 ;D
I recently discovered that the fender Yngwie malmsteen overdrive is now ridiculously overpriced,,have no idea what happened lol
The DOD one? Hahaha that's wild, I have one and it's fine
@@LeonTodd yes the 250 preamp overdrive clone,,made by fender red one
Who knew the TS-10 - it was actually one of the first dirt boxes I owned and used from the early 90's until the early 2000's when I sold it - it sounded great, but not unreal, unobtainium level great - to make it worse, the footswitch was notoriously problematic and like so many others mine eventually crapped out.
Funny thing at the time everyone was lusting after the TS-808 or TS-9 and I always thought, "Aw, darn, all I have is a TS-10."
Reality is stranger than fiction right?
I bought a Ts 10 many years ago and it’s sat in a draw since
Are they all the same value ?
🤔
Pretty much
Rewind your mind. Great song 👍👍
🤘🤘
You've inspired me to write my new song: "Talking 'bout Hamburgers Blues"
Leon heres an idea for your next Q&A: Amazing Gear that No One Knows About. Anything done by Red Seven (including when they went by the name Shiva Audio Devices) would make the cut, as would Kingsley amps and pedals (although they are admittedly a bit more popular now thanks to Dan and Mick).
I came across an MP1 on Craigslist for $80 but I didnt know what it was at the time.
Then I saw your videos and bought one on ebay for $220.
That was a few years ago.
I picked up a peavey rockmaster preamp for £30 a few years ago. That was a steal.
Big time!
Its interesting that TS10's are now desirable. Back in the early 90s when I used to make clones of pedals, it was always the TS808 was better than the TS9 and that better than TS10. The reasoning being the opamps and a couple of component choices. And funny to think the RC4558's opamps used in the TS808s and TS9s in terms of electrical characteristics are probably the cheapest, nastiest opamps you could get at the time. Seemingly great in the application of overdrives 😂.
For me, I never understood the prices for Klons. Yeah its a unique circuit for the time, but nothing you couldn't knock up for yourself in an afternoon with a soldering iron. And there's that many clones out there these days too (much like tube screamers).
And yeah it's funny what people are commanding for used vintage gear. I remember during the late 890s/early 90s you couldn't give away Gibson LPs and SGs because everyone wanted PRS. Just because it's a vintage instrument, doesn't automatically make it worth a lot of money. There were just as many dogs as good guitars that came out of the 60/70/80s.
BTW I don't know about in ears, but Pete Townshends famously deaf from listening to headphones too loud (it wasn't the loud amps apparently).
I splurged for the original Rockman X100 . I tried plugins that were supposed to mimic the Rockman but the weren't quite there . I watched videos of newer Rockman style pedals compared to the OG Rockman and IMO they too were not quite there and cost around the same . I paid $430.00 shipped . While waiting for it to arrive I thought to myself "Jesse, wtf have you done!? $430 on an old plastic , digital amp simulator from 1982" HAHA I was 2 years old when it came out . I got it and plugged it in and I was amazed how good it sounded . I want to play it in my live rig but afraid it would do it in . I even asked Mr Scholz on facebook if he would release a pedal version of this . His reply message back was so kind , although he didn't say yes , he didn't say no . I think if he came out with a pedal of the Rockman , it would sell bigtime . And with today's technology he could create something really special .
The market is ripe for it IMO
I have a 1978 Strat but only because I've had it since....1978. It's been reliable and had no issues with any of the workmanship. I would not pay the prices that 70s Strats command now though. I've also got a 2015 American Special strat which I like better than my 78 at least from a playability standpoint.
46 years and going strong! I wonder what it's cost you per day of use so far :p
I bought an 80s Rockman Sustainor at the beginning of the pandemic for $300 & those have more than doubled in price. Same thing with my Mesa Boogie Mark IV. Glad I bought them when I did because I’ll never sell them.
Yeah I got VERY lucky with my Mark IV.
Seeing this as I’ve been obsessing over an mp1 for 2 years and am on the verge of buying one😬
The Moog MF104 is a classic and because of rarity and being Moog I can understand the price. I picked up one of the newer Minifooger delays years ago for ~$70 and now they go on reverb for $400 which is crazy and unwarranted imo, but I'm not complaining in the instance I ever decide to sell it.
Also always down for Empire era Queensryche
I have an ADA and I bought it for $175 Aus, about 20 years ago when no one wanted them.
I totally agree it is not worth the $1000 Aus as you can get the same/similar tone for way way less.
I have kept mine for sentimental reasons and it wouldn’t hold up to excessive gigging as is too fragile.
I came to the conclusion years ago that all tube screamers sound the same , so now I just own a cheap TC Electronics “El Cambo” that I use when I want that TS flavour.
"What one is cheapest to replace" is a good gigging principle
The only real Vintage thing I am always tempted by is a Soldano SP 77. A great piece of gear, but right now I'd rather buy the Soldano Synergy module.
Opening a video with Della Brown? Take my like!!!
When do we get to see some content on the old Steinberger guitars? With all the 80's gear discussions they fit right in.
Speaking of crazy used prices! I'd love to get a transtrem equipped model but they're $$$
@LeonTodd I finally broke down and paid the price last year for a gm1ta. I love it but was painful. Loving the channel!
Congrats! That's the exact guitar I'd want if i got a Steinberger
You forgot another piece behind You... The X100... some years ago I was close to get one, but someone snatched it and then the prices went through the roof...
A few weeks ago a Soldano X88R preamp was listed on Reverb for $5k, it didn't last more than one day. I had one a few years ago and it sounded fantastic but a better deal for me was to sell it at that time. I thought about buying it again but it seemed excessively expensive, probably $5k for me means a lot of money compared to the guy who ended up buying it.
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@@LeonTodd Your channel is amazing, very informative and cool topics, thanks to you I started using my Gmajor 2 again. About the Soldano X88R, there's another one listed for $12k. Cheers from Ecuador.
@@xdiaba Which is why when the new X88IR reissue hits shelfs soon, I'm snagging one up. The originals are almost un-obtainium at this point.
I’ll admit, I’m in line for the KOT. No way I’d pay the premium to skip the line, but FOMO is a real thing right?
I picked up my ADA not long after your video of them a few years back. I spent about 180-200 bucks…. Now the prices are insane on them and tbh, I keep it more for that beautiful solid state sound than I do for the Marshall circuit. The gain side is just too noisy and I can’t roll back the volume to make it do what I do…
The Boogie Studio Pre’s did the same thing around the same time. Prices tripled.
It’s an insane world we live in man…
Prince of Tone for $1100
Get real! Lol
Prince?? no way!
@@coldacre yep. eBay. Another for $890
Ridiculous
well thats Mike @ Analog Man's great product that he cant keep up with supply and demand. his Sun Faces are the same. theyre overpriced for what they do, but its the best fuzz pedals you can buy. so I kinda get it, but would never pay for it ;)@@mattgilbert7347
WAT
@@LeonTodd Ikr!? I couldn't believe it either but there it was, in my email "saved search" notifications: two matching results for "Analogman Prince of Tone".
One at $1199AUD and one around $800+ (I think $880)
Overseas sellers, not Australian but converted to $AUD those were the prices. Without including postage, LOL!
As a great man once said: "Tell 'em they're dreaming"
eBay back in the early 2000's was fantastic, loads of ADA MP1's for £200, Mesa Studio Pre's about £300, Peavey 5150's £350. So, so many bargains to be had. Basically anything over 10 years old was considered junk and rack was super uncool so it was a gear heads dream.
Yep, up until 2018/2019 you could still find some sweet deals. Paid 200AUD for my SPX90 which is absolutely mint!
@@LeonToddI bought my '76 rickenbacker bass off ebay back in '98 for the princely sum of $450 US...the days of those kind of deals are long gone
It's criminal that Leon only has 98k subscribers. Come on Rick Beato, Paul Davids, Ben Eller and friends, donate a few subscribers to a good cause. You won't miss them.
Agree. He deserves millions❤
Too kind mate! Blows my mind to have 98k as it is!
It gets worse. Me for example. I have a decade of content and just under 400 subs. So it gets MUCH worse. The algorithm SUCKS.
I just subbed. Your channel is awesome, and I hate that youtube hasn't recommended it to me. Your content is my sort of thing. Thanks for posting here.
Agreed LT has taken over my phone and iPad I just pick up my devices and LT starts playing automatically!!!🤟🏻🤟🏻
The TS-10 bugs me because it was my first ever dirt pedal and it got lost at a gig in the late 90's. A few years ago I wanted to replace it for nostalgia reasons and was shocked by the prices they were going for.
Something similar happened to me with a green big muff in the 90s, I'd like to get another but not for $500 when I still have the memory of buying one brand new for $50
About gear, what I've learnt in the last 4-5 years of internet and CZcams access, is what was easy accessible in the 90's compared to today's level of quality/price range and choice....I recently built a cheap pedal bourd, with tone and ease of use, that blows my mind and if I was gigging, I'd be more than proud to use live.
Living the dream bro!
Also, no one cares what you use live as you bring some energy to the stage!
I literally traded a Mesa SimulClass 295 that I paid $800 US at Guitar Center only for them to price it at $2499 US! It’s dropped $500 US because people know better, and aren’t going to pay those prices!
I just this week, traded off my Mesa Dual Rec Multiwatt and they gave be $1300 US! I originally paid $850 US at the same store!
They’re burying themselves because nobodies stupid enough to buy the stuff, and if they are that stupid, they’re going to kill the market!
*I just looked and someone was stupid enough to buy it at $2100*
i have 3 MP1s. ill keep a bit longer.
There's treasure in pawn shops. A VOX tonelab se they were selling for less than two hundred bucks, for instance.
Definitely 70s Norlin Gibsons and CBS Fenders as someone else posted below. Mid 80s and early 90s guitars are often much better feeling. And 70s Guilds are nice as well.
Otherwise I would say old budget guitars and synthesizers.
Klons don’t even sound good, they sound nasal, no better in practical use than an eq pedal, at the cost of wet dry mix ruining interaction with your amp’s preamp. At least the King of Tone sounds great.
Yeah old crap is still old crap
I had a ADA MP-1, Alesis Quadraverb and a Mesa Boogie rack mount head. Sold it all, along with my muscle car, to go to university back in the day. Never even crossed my mind to ask my parents for $$$. I guess I screwed up lol
I scoff at collectable used prices, however then I remember someone paid about 2 million for an unsealed copy of Super Mario Bros, its not about how good it is, its collector hype and value, the Helix KoT is undistinguished from the real deal in a mix. Any modern modeler can do exactly what the ADA does, probably get it out of the Pod Express for less than $200
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