Yea anyone who bought and dropped a gen1 sig & saur p320 Knows what quality to expect Modernized to "look the part" While maintaining that 1800's gut wrenching reliability that's only a week and a half lived while on bed rest Taking fire arms back to tradition!!
Every sig fan coming to respond now… Mine came in exact spec an have 30k rounds through it with the same barrel an I don’t baby it. Never had a issue. It’s user error obviously your idiot….
@@bullmilkmy BCM 16 was nothing but issue! It always run out of ammo and it got hungry way too much since it eat everything! That's my main issue about this rifle. CURSE YOU BCM!
Everything from Sig sucks lol, especially the Sig Spear and the P320. One is literally an off-brand AR-18, and the other one can kill you without you even touching the trigger. Major Sig L.
Probably still selling the government P320s at a loss. That's the only way they could get the contract. 19x would have won if Sig didn't undercut the contract before Stage 1 even started.
This is something you should do with all firearms that are held together with bolts. Check them periodically with a torque wrench or add witness marks for a quick visual check.
Honestly, Blue 243 loctite or purple (low strength) loctite should be applied to the HG threads. Prevents galvanic corrosion and ensures torque is maintained.
Put thousands of rounds through mine with zero problems. People like to hate on SIG because its the popular thing to do, rarely hear of people with actual problems they just echo what theyve heard is "supposed to be wrong" with their gun
My barrel bends to one side because of how I wear my pants, no matter how hard me or my wife tug on it, it never goes back straight again. Please advise.
For $2500 I would expect EVERYTHING to be FLAWLESS on this Rifle! Don't get me wrong I think the Sig Spear is One HELL of a BEAST but loose anything for that amount is UNACCEPTABLE.
Join the military/stay in and it's finna be where you ONLY see SIG. NGSW Program is on some next-level bullsh*ttery, especially with a recent incident that happened where another SIG P(iece of Sh*t)320 went off inside of an officer's holster in the station. They're kick-fire too, apparently, not just drop-fire. Fanboys in the comments on that one where trying to Magic B*llet that incident too, claim that it was a... get this.. a handcuff key from another officer's belt that suddenly floated upwards parallel, slipped into that P320 trigger guard, and had enough force to activate the trigger because the officer happened to be near another officer... Um... McFriggin'-What-Now?? SIG fanboys, that's not how physics works. That is literally worse than flat-earthers, like, by a longshot. He bent over to pick up something, the suspect who was being detained had his foot bump the holster, and it kick-fired. SIG literally ran with it and blamed it on the holster. Except they couldn't identify what type of holster, and improperly identified a tourniquet and tourniquet holder on the front of the holster twice, and blamed it on the strap that was over the back of it. So, effectively, SIG lied to the public in a dangerous way. That drop-fire issue is NOT fixed, so if you care about your floors and/or your femoral arteries?? Maybe skip out on that purchase, my friends.
I usually tighten things to “that should be good” to “that ain’t comin loose”. Anywhere in that range works. Actually little M6 or m8s strip all the time, 60lbs is a crazy amount of torque on one of those
Man everything I hear about sig seems to be some kind of issue p320s shooting by themselves p365s rusting and shooting by themselves and now this and for the prices they are charging for all of these products it’s just insane
I own three spear LTs and they are bad ass! we run them hard AF suppressed too and they have yet to have a malfunction. 556-300blk and 762x39. Say what you want but there are plenty of people including real operators like Travis Haley running spear LTs and they don’t have any issues either and if one person isn’t going to sugar coat anything it’s Travis Haley.it’s funny how the people that hate the spear lt are the ones that don’t even own one.
@@user-ow3bn4hu3yi have looked at multiple sig spears and I can tell you they will not handle harsh conditions listen you can make a chauchat run clean if you never throw it in the dirt or give it to grunts this platform also doesn't have what the ar has and thats the ability to basically gas itself out
@@user-ow3bn4hu3yTravis Haley might use them now, but never as an operator. Those dudes will shill anything since they aren’t doing operations anymore. It also doesn’t change the fact that although yours might be fine, other people’s rifles are not. Like hilariously not. Like able to bend the barrel and handguard out of spec.
@@fishlife1013 I would like to see your credentials please? And then I would like to see the testing data to back those claims up. Opinions are like butt holes. Everyone has one. With all due respect.
This is why I buy KAC, LMT, HK, LWRCI, ADM, BGD, LaRue, and Noveske. I never have these SIG Spear problems with the battle proven and high end attention to detail manufacturers.
@@bjamminhoes This video is talking about the sig spear lt specifically, which typically sells for $2.5k-ish. You can easily buy LMT/HK/KAC/LWRC for that price. If you can't afford those brands, you can't afford this sig rifle regardless.
Sick, and the Marines and the Army just got a shit load of these things too. I wonder how many boots are gonna have squibs and hangfires from the barrel getting bent. Hopefully they only get assigned to those who can pass a regular field check and brass makes sure to put out a PSA on the issue.
Love it when companies will charge a premium for their products then come flawed from the factory. Really makes me happy about spending my entire budget just on the rifle when I could get a decent ar for half the price and still have money left over for accessories.
Its not flawed. The 2 bolts that _may_ need torqued are for the quick change barrel. If you didn't check these out of the box before shooting it for the first time you probably shouldn't be using anything at all that requires a smidge of common sense.
Typically sig QC, I have friends who work at multiple locations for sig and they all have told me sig will knowingly send out broken guns, or guns with poorly finished frames that may or may not operate properly.
Cool gun. The folding stock is a plus but like the SCAR 16, clambering in 5.56 doesn't make much sense to me in this platform. I bet it's tons of fun regardless so enjoy!
It's sad to see where Sig has gone over the last decade or so. Used to make top tier firearms that were the envy of everyone and now they make rattle trap garbage
And use hot water to get the sig factory muzzle device off!!! Everyone’s been trying to use a heat gun or torch. It’s rocksett you need to put it in water for like 3/4 hours and it’ll come right off
Also this just shows that shit like more screws/pins/bolts in your system the more places you have mechanical shit that could cause issues/fail. I look at the Jakl and while I would like one, that things has screws everywhere and I'm thinking it could just start coming apart one day. Think I'll stick with regular (Stoner design) ARs and Aks for now.
If that was actually down to the firearm, definitely worthy of a lawsuit. But more likely it was due to ammunition. Either a squib load or a highly over pressured round. No AR pattern rifle should explode without bad ammo being involved.
Imagine designing a gun that expensive and it requiring specific torque on screws to not destroy itself. I mean shit screws are already cursed to see on guns but thats a new level
I was going to buy a spear LT but have had issues with the quality and customer service with a couple different new hand guns like the P322 and P365 so I opted not to. Cool company in the state I’m from but I can’t support a company that doesn’t stand behind there product.
Now I will never buy a Sig Spear. But then again I wasn’t planning on it before. But now my mind is made up. NEVER!! BARREL MOVEMENT!?!?!! Yeah I bet that rifle is really accurate! Why should I have to torque down bolts? Should a rifle at that price range have bolts that aren’t coming loose? I will stick with KAC thanks!
Can confirm it's an awesome grip, and it's sold as a "angled grip" for when that was a selling point for use on pistols. I don't give a damn anymore honestly. That being said use whatever works for you.
I thought the more you spend on a gun the better quality they are?😂😂😂 most cheap guns i purchased have no blems but ruger,glock i both got blemished crap from them.
It's sickening how many "guntubers" are either paid mouthpieces or completely blind to reality when it comes to quality and reliability.. at least this guy can be honest and help prevent the planned obsolescence BS
Sig is pretty well-known for shit like this lol, I've been sworn off of them since buying a P320 and a P365, both of which were absolute bricks. Their QC is god awful and I can't fathom anybody still buying firearms at these prices when they have worse quality control than Palmetto State Armory
@@turnermd1302 yup i agree ...i beleive its almost every gun Gun manufacturer out there making guns ...think about it this major increase and gun buying these companies just cut corners and rush things through just for the money!
@@turnermd1302 i just sent photos of my blemished mark IV lite(22lr) I cant beleive it had a big old bur right in the breach face area where the round is seated in the chamber.
@@turnermd1302 lets see if ruger makes it right.....i told them i dont want to send nothing back because i shouldnt have too. They should send me a new upper for it (because the barrel and everythings fixed.)
It’s not the barrel it’s the handguard! The barrel won’t move back and forth even with the bolts loose it will only move in and out. Push the barrel left to right with the handguard on and torque down,look at the screws while you do this and you will see the handguard movement . I own 3 spear LTs And none of the have barrel issues they have handguard issues that have all been fixed with a (arasaka mcx zero retention clamp.)
Honestly the fact they’re have so many issues like this with all their products kinda disheartening to know they have so many contracts. Not even talking about their safety issues.
I’ll never understand why sig has such a loyal following. Every single gun they have come out with in the last ten years has had issues. Some more severe than others. With exception to the p365, I would never own a sig.
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For what they charge that shit should be PERFECT when it hits your hands.
Couldn't agree more! Some gold with the package would be good too
Facts at four k
I’ve been hearing a lot of bad things about sig products it’s kind of sad lol I guess that military contract that somehow got is going to their heads
Yea anyone who bought and dropped a gen1 sig & saur p320
Knows what quality to expect
Modernized to "look the part"
While maintaining that 1800's gut wrenching reliability that's only a week and a half lived while on bed rest
Taking fire arms back to tradition!!
Amen
“Torque specs” we just tighten it and say she ain’t going nowhere it works every time
Screw 'till it screws no more and good to go
So... if you screw her good and proper, she won't ever leave? Got it..m
Until it starts going easy💀
Screw with fingers till it stops then give it a little ehhh with a wrench and it’s good.
If the head beaks off the screw, it becomes “pinned”
No you gatta give it a dad slap and say "that aint going nowhere!"
According to Sig customer service:
Hand guard screws = 45 in lbs
Barrel screws= 60 in lbs
@DocHoliday1776 that's exactly what a fed would say 🤔
@@nicholascalderon2168 nah 😉📸
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Imagine that, a qc issue from Sig.
😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🙂💀🪦
Just say youre poor, peasant.
Say it ain't so 😅
Every sig fan coming to respond now… Mine came in exact spec an have 30k rounds through it with the same barrel an I don’t baby it. Never had a issue. It’s user error obviously your idiot….
Im kinda a simp for FN stuff
i know they dont maufacture half of there own guns but still
Sig once again using its customers as a QC department
just like every other firearm manufacturer
@@unkulwillyBCM, Daniel Defense, H&K, Knights Armaments, etc. have major QC issues at a similar volume? I didn't think so, either. 🤣
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sorry about the random discharge
@@bullmilkmy BCM 16 was nothing but issue! It always run out of ammo and it got hungry way too much since it eat everything! That's my main issue about this rifle. CURSE YOU BCM!
Sig is definitely the worst with using its customers as Ginny pigs out of all of the major manufacturers
Make sure to follow sig's recommended torque specs on their screws because they don't.
QC budget went into bribes.
lmao gotta get those contracts somehow
Serious question. Does Sig even have a QC department?
What's quality control?
To be ISO certified, they must
(Probably run by a snow bunny)
Yea,the customers
yeah. they're called 'customers'
You are the QC department
"SIG claimed there is no factory issue."
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Their customer service is 💩 im sticking to novesky i never had a problem once with them
@@wilsonatorjw4121Noveske *🙃
@@wilsonatorjw4121hate the hype beast culture turn they've taken but they make outstanding rifles
I love Sig products after they’ve been out for a year and the people fix them 😂
Everything from Sig sucks lol, especially the Sig Spear and the P320. One is literally an off-brand AR-18, and the other one can kill you without you even touching the trigger. Major Sig L.
Maybe Sig can take some of that government contract money and tighten their own f’n screws to spec!
Probably still selling the government P320s at a loss.
That's the only way they could get the contract.
19x would have won if Sig didn't undercut the contract before Stage 1 even started.
They are currently doing that , huge rework going on
@@pewpewTNthe guns are nearly worthless. The parts mags and service agreements will make them money and the marketing etc
Torque specs: till it cracks then back a quarter turn @ave
😂
Never had problems like this with my PSA. LOL
Follow Sigs recommended torque specs even though Sig refuses to... lol
For the price of these guns you shouldn't have to do any of this. Straight up.
Imagine spending 4k for a rifle that you have to do basic stuff that factory should have done.
This is something you should do with all firearms that are held together with bolts.
Check them periodically with a torque wrench or add witness marks for a quick visual check.
Honestly, Blue 243 loctite or purple (low strength) loctite should be applied to the HG threads. Prevents galvanic corrosion and ensures torque is maintained.
I use BLUE on just about everything. Zero problems or worries. I don't understand why people wouldn't. Just be smart and use the right color.
@@Marktk72 Agreed 💯
I was telling people this when they were complaining about the barrel moving. It had to be this right here.
Yeah, both of my LTs were torqued nearly perfectly from the factory. One was a few lbs high, other right on. 11.5" .300blk SBR and a 16" 7.62x39
Kind of like the rear plate flying off on the M18 if you didnt tighten it. Great job Sig
Put thousands of rounds through mine with zero problems. People like to hate on SIG because its the popular thing to do, rarely hear of people with actual problems they just echo what theyve heard is "supposed to be wrong" with their gun
My barrel bends to one side because of how I wear my pants, no matter how hard me or my wife tug on it, it never goes back straight again. Please advise.
Got a dripply dong man.
🤣 bro what
Thats some cringe boomer humor tbh
Hahaha nicee
Slide the hanguard back and forth and have your wife torque both boltz to user specs. 👍
For $2500 I would expect EVERYTHING to be FLAWLESS on this Rifle! Don't get me wrong I think the Sig Spear is One HELL of a BEAST but loose anything for that amount is UNACCEPTABLE.
Sig QC issues on a first gen, imagine my shock.
Its not even the first gen ITS THE THIRD
@@AuraLT lol, that doesn't make it better
@@StabbyMcStabwood I believe that’s exactly his sentiment.
Sig keeps fucking up and I keep stepping further and further away.
Join the military/stay in and it's finna be where you ONLY see SIG.
NGSW Program is on some next-level bullsh*ttery, especially with a recent incident that happened where another SIG P(iece of Sh*t)320 went off inside of an officer's holster in the station.
They're kick-fire too, apparently, not just drop-fire.
Fanboys in the comments on that one where trying to Magic B*llet that incident too, claim that it was a... get this.. a handcuff key from another officer's belt that suddenly floated upwards parallel, slipped into that P320 trigger guard, and had enough force to activate the trigger because the officer happened to be near another officer...
Um... McFriggin'-What-Now??
SIG fanboys, that's not how physics works. That is literally worse than flat-earthers, like, by a longshot.
He bent over to pick up something, the suspect who was being detained had his foot bump the holster, and it kick-fired.
SIG literally ran with it and blamed it on the holster. Except they couldn't identify what type of holster, and improperly identified a tourniquet and tourniquet holder on the front of the holster twice, and blamed it on the strap that was over the back of it.
So, effectively, SIG lied to the public in a dangerous way. That drop-fire issue is NOT fixed, so if you care about your floors and/or your femoral arteries??
Maybe skip out on that purchase, my friends.
I usually tighten things to “that should be good” to “that ain’t comin loose”. Anywhere in that range works. Actually little M6 or m8s strip all the time, 60lbs is a crazy amount of torque on one of those
60 inch pounds (5 lb/ft)
And it will still come loose due to thermal creep.
The way the hand guard slides makes me want one that much more. The color 🧈
Quick and informative. Thank you.
i don't have one of these but for some reason i watched this four times now
Man everything I hear about sig seems to be some kind of issue p320s shooting by themselves p365s rusting and shooting by themselves and now this and for the prices they are charging for all of these products it’s just insane
No gun shoots by itself.
At this point, i trust bear creek's QC as much as Sig's...
mine came loose from factory too.
Thanks for the info bro this is exactly the type of info gun channels should be doing thanks again
Beautiful piece of machinery
Damn imagine having to use a torque tool in the battle field when stripping and cleaning your gun….
Yeah it shouldn’t come from the factory like that. Enough with the bootlicking.
Idk just steal a torque screwdriver and torque wrench from one of the mechanics. They ain't using it.
Well, removing the barrel and handguard aren't exactly standard field stripping practices.
@@danielpark7821 how am I bootlicking by making fun of the new rifle?
@@KeterMalkuth well yeah with the M16 lmao look up field stripping spear 😝 everything is taken apart “if it ain’t broke…”
As beautiful as this rifle is I will never want to touch one…
I own three spear LTs and they are bad ass! we run them hard AF suppressed too and they have yet to have a malfunction. 556-300blk and 762x39. Say what you want but there are plenty of people including real operators like Travis Haley running spear LTs and they don’t have any issues either and if one person isn’t going to sugar coat anything it’s Travis Haley.it’s funny how the people that hate the spear lt are the ones that don’t even own one.
@@user-ow3bn4hu3y With an MSRP of $2,729 it better be torqued correctly from the factory...I don't care who runs the thing for CZcams!
@@user-ow3bn4hu3yi have looked at multiple sig spears and I can tell you they will not handle harsh conditions listen you can make a chauchat run clean if you never throw it in the dirt or give it to grunts this platform also doesn't have what the ar has and thats the ability to basically gas itself out
@@user-ow3bn4hu3yTravis Haley might use them now, but never as an operator. Those dudes will shill anything since they aren’t doing operations anymore. It also doesn’t change the fact that although yours might be fine, other people’s rifles are not. Like hilariously not. Like able to bend the barrel and handguard out of spec.
@@fishlife1013 I would like to see your credentials please? And then I would like to see the testing data to back those claims up. Opinions are like butt holes. Everyone has one. With all due respect.
This was very very useful for me as i dont have a sig spear. but now i know this
Sigs problems sig problems. I'll keep my custom ARs and Glocks thank you...
Yep 😂
Well done! Thanks.
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This is why I buy KAC, LMT, HK, LWRCI, ADM, BGD, LaRue, and Noveske. I never have these SIG Spear problems with the battle proven and high end attention to detail manufacturers.
not everyone is a millionaire that can afford having multiple products from all of those high end manufacturers
@@bjamminhoes This video is talking about the sig spear lt specifically, which typically sells for $2.5k-ish. You can easily buy LMT/HK/KAC/LWRC for that price. If you can't afford those brands, you can't afford this sig rifle regardless.
This is why I build.
LOL. Look up LMT QC issues, there are plenty of posts about it.
I'll remember that the next time I see LMT QC issues, lmao.
I like marking mine with paint markers so I can easily see if screws are turning
Sick, and the Marines and the Army just got a shit load of these things too. I wonder how many boots are gonna have squibs and hangfires from the barrel getting bent.
Hopefully they only get assigned to those who can pass a regular field check and brass makes sure to put out a PSA on the issue.
Was readin about Sig barrel issues w the Spear, Good to Kno Its Not Too Serious
SIG: They're not loose, they're "expedient self-disassembly".
Sig fans: 1,000,000 rounds no issues.
I hear some pseudo-buyers remorse. Can’t wait for the range coverage!
What kind of foregrip are you using?
I like that stubby foregrip on your Spear
zenitco
Thanks for the info. Yeap! I know i i spent the money and got my a torque wrench for my pistols and rifles
Always check the moving parts. Always.
Ron Cohen brought his Kimber customer quality control department over to sig. Its a damn shame they let him get away with that.
Thanks for sharing!
No thanks on the Sig Spear...
Love it when companies will charge a premium for their products then come flawed from the factory. Really makes me happy about spending my entire budget just on the rifle when I could get a decent ar for half the price and still have money left over for accessories.
Its not flawed. The 2 bolts that _may_ need torqued are for the quick change barrel. If you didn't check these out of the box before shooting it for the first time you probably shouldn't be using anything at all that requires a smidge of common sense.
That's SIG for ya. Can't wait to see all the issues that come with their NGSW contract...
Typically sig QC, I have friends who work at multiple locations for sig and they all have told me sig will knowingly send out broken guns, or guns with poorly finished frames that may or may not operate properly.
The handguard screws are NOT standard torx t15! They are Torx plus IP 15... This is why so many strip these screws !
That's what I need. More bolts to strip.
Cool gun. The folding stock is a plus but like the SCAR 16, clambering in 5.56 doesn't make much sense to me in this platform. I bet it's tons of fun regardless so enjoy!
Make sure when you buy a car the tire pressure is set to the correct PSI. - QC
Get a paint pen and then mark the screws so you can see if/when they’re coming loose at a glance.
It's sad to see where Sig has gone over the last decade or so. Used to make top tier firearms that were the envy of everyone and now they make rattle trap garbage
Now I see why Sig fans hate on Glock so much
And use hot water to get the sig factory muzzle device off!!! Everyone’s been trying to use a heat gun or torch. It’s rocksett you need to put it in water for like 3/4 hours and it’ll come right off
Good to know, thanks
Sig loves to beta test their new guns on customers. They stopped making trustworthy products years ago.
Palmetto state armory is the same way unfortunately
@AK4974U at least with PSA you get insanely good prices and the best customers service out there that will guarantee to fix your problem
SIG is definitely the Bethesda Game Studios of gun manufactures.
Hmm, I may have to shelve my CZ Bren 2 for one of these Sigs just so I can install lovers lab mod on it then...
@@brianw3415fucking based
Also this just shows that shit like more screws/pins/bolts in your system the more places you have mechanical shit that could cause issues/fail. I look at the Jakl and while I would like one, that things has screws everywhere and I'm thinking it could just start coming apart one day. Think I'll stick with regular (Stoner design) ARs and Aks for now.
Sig is a joke…mine literally blew up, cracking the receivers and sig just told me to go buy another one, they have no warranty
You gotta be kidding me
You might want to talk to a lawyer
If that was actually down to the firearm, definitely worthy of a lawsuit. But more likely it was due to ammunition. Either a squib load or a highly over pressured round. No AR pattern rifle should explode without bad ammo being involved.
My hand guard screws were torqued lol. One of them stripped with one pass by hand. I should’ve went with badger
I love the new sig spear Lt👌🗽🇺🇸 beautiful
Sig always has issues like this. Never liked their guns much either. I’m a Ruger fan, but I also work in one of Ruger’s factories
reminder that this is supposed to replace the m4 in the army
For the prices of their rifles and the reputation they CLAIM to hold, that is fucking ridiculous.....
Imagine designing a gun that expensive and it requiring specific torque on screws to not destroy itself. I mean shit screws are already cursed to see on guns but thats a new level
Here at SIG, we make the customer do the quality testing.
I really wish the hand guard screws were counter sunk… would be a much better way than the button head
I was going to buy a spear LT but have had issues with the quality and customer service with a couple different new hand guns like the P322 and P365 so I opted not to. Cool company in the state I’m from but I can’t support a company that doesn’t stand behind there product.
I just tighten until I can’t no more forget specs 😂😂
Now I will never buy a Sig Spear. But then again I wasn’t planning on it before. But now my mind is made up. NEVER!! BARREL MOVEMENT!?!?!! Yeah I bet that rifle is really accurate! Why should I have to torque down bolts? Should a rifle at that price range have bolts that aren’t coming loose? I will stick with KAC thanks!
Keep an eye on your trigger pins, the ones ony virtus walked out after 90 rounds
Handguard screws should be takedown pins and barrels should screw onto the receiver
Everyone: SIG is crap! Also everyone: Ooooh Spear! Me want!
Emissary foregrips will give you the perfect foregrip. Itll be exactly like that one but look better and not just be a sawed in half magpul grip.
Can confirm it's an awesome grip, and it's sold as a "angled grip" for when that was a selling point for use on pistols. I don't give a damn anymore honestly. That being said use whatever works for you.
It’s the hand guard flexing. I moved mine around then tested zero and it was perfect. If it was the barrel moving, the zero should have been off.
I thought the more you spend on a gun the better quality they are?😂😂😂 most cheap guns i purchased have no blems but ruger,glock i both got blemished crap from them.
It's sickening how many "guntubers" are either paid mouthpieces or completely blind to reality when it comes to quality and reliability.. at least this guy can be honest and help prevent the planned obsolescence BS
Sig is pretty well-known for shit like this lol, I've been sworn off of them since buying a P320 and a P365, both of which were absolute bricks. Their QC is god awful and I can't fathom anybody still buying firearms at these prices when they have worse quality control than Palmetto State Armory
@@turnermd1302 yup i agree ...i beleive its almost every gun Gun manufacturer out there making guns ...think about it this major increase and gun buying these companies just cut corners and rush things through just for the money!
@@turnermd1302 i just sent photos of my blemished mark IV lite(22lr)
I cant beleive it had a big old bur right in the breach face area where the round is seated in the chamber.
@@turnermd1302 lets see if ruger makes it right.....i told them i dont want to send nothing back because i shouldnt have too. They should send me a new upper for it (because the barrel and everythings fixed.)
If you strip the screws you can just replace them.
You would think if those screws and the torque specs were so important that Sig would get it right before it leaves the factory.
Several thousand dollar gun and the bolts aren’t tight? That shits going back to sig ASAP.
who makes that cutdown vert grip?
It’s not the barrel it’s the handguard! The barrel won’t move back and forth even with the bolts loose it will only move in and out. Push the barrel left to right with the handguard on and torque down,look at the screws while you do this and you will see the handguard movement . I own 3 spear LTs
And none of the have barrel issues they have handguard issues that have all been fixed with a (arasaka mcx zero retention clamp.)
I had the same issue with a new FN Scar-17S! Production based assembly by unskilled workers...😅
Honestly the fact they’re have so many issues like this with all their products kinda disheartening to know they have so many contracts. Not even talking about their safety issues.
Another reason I'll never spend money with Sig. They're becoming the Mercedes-Benz of firearms.
QC says, buy a different rifle....
Sig spear in 5.56, my man got the economy model 💀☠️💀
They should've done that at the factory.
I love my fixitsticks too. What a great kit for $100
"Make sure to tighten it to sig torque specs because sig didn't bother"
I’ll never understand why sig has such a loyal following. Every single gun they have come out with in the last ten years has had issues. Some more severe than others. With exception to the p365, I would never own a sig.
The biggest problem with it is no side charging handle