SABATON - Father (Official Lyric Video)
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- The official lyric video for "Father" by Sabaton. Taken from the EP Weapons Of The Modern Age.
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========= Father LYRICS ==========
A long ago in eastern Prussia
Young men with great ambitions rise
So who can tell me who can say for sure
Which one will win the Nobel Prize?
It was a golden age for science
The kaiserreich would hold the key
And as the conflict came and tensions rose
The manifest of the 93
Haber-Bosch, the great alliance
Where’s the contradiction?
Fed the world by ways of science
Sinner or a saint?
Father of toxic gas, and chemical warfare
His dark creation has been revealed
Flow over no man’s land, a poisonous nightmare
A deadly mist on the battlefield
“Perversions of ideals of science”
Lost words of alienated wife
And in the trenches of the western front
Unknowing soldiers pay the price
And on the battlefield they’re dying
And on the fields the crops are grown
So who can tell us what is right or wrong
Maths or morality alone?
During times when there’s peace he belonged to the world
During times when there’s war he belonged to his place of birth
Where, will this lead? What’s coming next?
From your inventions?
We wonder where, where does it end?
Who can foresee, see what will be?
========= Historic Fact ==========
Fritz Haber, often referred to as the “father of chemical warfare”, weaponised lethal gas for the Germans during World War I. Haber is also responsible for the Haber-Bosch process, an invention that resulted in a boom in the world’s population due to a significant increase in agricultural produce.
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Fritz Haber, often referred to as the “father of chemical warfare”, weaponised lethal gas for the Germans during World War I. Haber is also responsible for the Haber-Bosch process, an invention that resulted in a boom in the world’s population due to a significant increase in agricultural produce. Read more about Fritz Haber 👉 www.sabaton.net/historical-facts/fritz-haber-was-born/
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Amazing from start to finish!
Sooooo good! Great topic as well 👏
Very epic. I actually remixed (made new lyrics) for Stormtroopers and I’m currently working on doing the same with Uprising. I would do it here too, but it’s simply too cool to remix! I guess it’ll take another goof to remix this one, as thats usually what starts a remix of Sabatonium.
Absolutely amazing!
Hauntingly beautiful
The random guy who leaked the information about this song a week ago: They called me a madman.
I was just about to say that bruh. They clowned on him for that, but here we are. Poor dude
Oh yeah that guy,well for honor i would say i am a clown for saying he was a dumbass
What is the story behind the guy who leaked the song
link?
I don't think they should've leaked it though.
They was right. But that doesn't make them right.
Fritz Haber was the literal embodiment of "Science is a double-edged sword"
Yup!
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2:36 This is Quote from Fritz Haber himself "During peace time a scientist belongs to the World, but during war time he belongs to his country"
This was later quoted by Joachim Mrugowsky at the Nuremberg Trial as a part of his defence. He also thought like that, and did what he thought would have been to the people's benefit. And yet there's no song about him, and there will never be.
@@noname-oi3ys the diffrnece is purpose and reason haber wanted gas warfare because it was deadly and killed quick on the battlefield just like any other weapon of war where as joachim and other yatzi sceintist had far more cruel intentions then quick eath and war victory.
@@housewilma4904 Honestly, it makes no difference as long as people are killed.
... oh... that explains why it's so haunting...
@@housewilma4904 “Killed quick” The Russians of Osowiec fortress called
Fritz Haber is one of the people in history that did something incredible but also created something so horrible that it had to be nearly universally outlawed. This song does such an incredible job at portraying both sides, "And on the battlefield they're dying, and on the fields the crops are grown" is a really underappreciated line.
Same with Oppenheimer. He helped develop so much that we still rely on today from medicine to power, but was the main brain behind what is a sword over all of humanity from the first bomb forever after.
@@michaellind3653Fritz Harber probaly saved the most life's out of anyone in history without Jim global population would be billions less. Did he also destroy the world? Without him global warming would be far less due to far less people and we may of learned valuable lessons. Hitler may of not been hitler wtc. Maybe there was a human who kept humans from going extinct 1000000 years ago and saved more but there is no evidence of that.
Underappreciated by who? Damn that line about being underappreciated is used way to much.
@@tremere26 By the comments section in general. I don't see many comments about that specific line.
@@michaellind3653 the fact that Sabaton wasnt commissioned to make a song about Oppenheimer for the movie is a huge misstep
Love the ominous ambience of this track.
Perfect for the theme of it. Sabaton has done it once more
This is perfect for Halloween moment
It reminds me of Inmate 4859
His deep and dark Voice just add more ambience of terror
Chemical Warfare is pretty damn scary!
"Every change of sensation in the nose and mouth nags in the mind, it creates utter confusion eroding the soldiers inner strength."
-Fritz Haber "Father of toxic gas and chemical warfare"
@Don't Read My Profile Photo No.
also of Idustrial production of phosphatic fertilizers wich keeps the world fed to this day
also when Nazis fired al the Jews that worked with him he risigned out of protest
@Don't Read My Profile Photo shut up
@Don't Read My Profile Photo nah
It's unfortunate that he would be known for his toxic gas that killed millions, and not because Haber-Bosch process which fed and save billions.
I'm kinda late to discover sabaton but damn man, best decision of my life. It's been 5 days since I found this awesome band and can't stop listening to them, binged all their albums more than thrice....man, what a gold mine
You are most welcome on board Travis!
Lucky you, because you can enjoy all the briliant songs they made in one go when the rest of us have had to wait between releases. (its a amazing journey enjoy!)
It's never too late to discover Sabaton
Welcome to the family!
your never too late to enjoy sabaton my friend
I enjoy that every Sabaton song tells a story, usually about someone who has done something great, or terrible, but in this case both. And with this song in particular I love the dark tone, recognizing the damage he caused, but also taking moments to note that without him, some people may not exist. In short, it sounds awesome, but also makes you think.
Thanks a lot for your feedback!
"Some people" is an understatement considering half of humanity owe their life to his inventions
The fact this metal band has helped make history relevant to more people and helped new generations learn about their past has helped make the world a better place in some small way and what more can you ask to do in a life time?
Sabaton teaches history period
6+ billion people ain't "some", my guy
"So who can tell us what is right or wrong, maths or morality alone?" Such a powerful phrase, gave me absolute goosebumps!
I don't think either can.
Sorry, but as good as a question that is in general, in this case it´s just stupid. Indirectly helping more people be born does not in any way make up for making genocide easy
@@gurrapalm2051 It kind of does. The billions that now exist because of the Haber process is mind bogglingly larger than the millions that died bc of Haber's gas/related products
@@gurrapalm2051 Its not just allowing for more people to be born. His invention of artificial fertilizer has both directly and indirectly helped to feed hundreds of millions, if not over a billion people or more from starving. According to an article from 2017, at that point in time, around 50% of the world's population was supported by artificial fertilizers. While that percentage has almost undoubtedly changed, the point still stands.
His invention of mustard gas, chlorine gas, and chemical warfare in general helped to slaughter countless soldiers on the battlefield and would later aid in the extermination of many others and likely countless more in future years.
His invention of chemical fertilizer has, by extension, has allowed humanity to support billions through increased crop yields. It's likely that each of us here have him to thank in some way for the vegetables on our plates.
This is why it's such a good question and an even hard one to answer.
@@gurrapalm2051 either way, someone would have discovered both. At that time, like 50 other scientists were about to discover poison gas, and even more were about to discover the process used to reintroduce nitrogen into the soil. It's just less likely that the same person would have discovered both had he not discovered them.
"Father of toxic gas, and chemical warfare" This line gives me goosebumps.
Same
so i should not have him as a rolemodel?
@@artturisiikanen3843 scientist are scientist. Neither saint nor sinner. The ones who blame him for chemic warfare should also blame all the manhattan project, and every other invention that killed people.
same
This whole song gives me goosebumbs. :D
The line "who can tell us what is right or wrong, maths or morality alone?" still gives me chills.
Well looking at history when push comes to shove it always maths
Nothing is right and nothing is wrong. But the horrors of the war were just.
Did the peoples want war? Yes, they wanted it. Moreover, they demanded it, and they rejoiced at its beginning. So, the death, horror, hunger and grief that these people received, they received fairly - they made them themselves (though they wished for other people, not for themselves).
Did the rulers of these people want war? Yes. Moreover, they were preparing this war and tried to start it several times (Anglo-Boer, Russian-Japanese). Kings expand their power at the expense of other people's grief. So, what they got is fair: the Bolsheviks quite rightly shot the tsar and his family, the Germans quite rightly drove the Kaiser away, the nobles, officials and officers quite rightly found themselves on bayonets and in firing pits. They purposefully created such a world themselves.
Like water has no solid state, morality is forever adapting to its environment
my school requested a chemical job to do, and I was about to do the Haber process, sabaton helped me alot with that great and awesome music, best rock band of all!
Thank you!
how deep did they breathe?
@@leadontaste7261 Oh god
The lyrics to this song are some powerful stuff. The Haber-Bosch process was developed in the early 1900's and was the first feasible method to produce ammonia in a laboratory. That was a very big deal. It allowed for mass scale production of fertilizer to feed the growing world population. Half of the world's population today relies on food grown using ammonia from this method. In 1918, the German chemist Fritz Haber was awarded a Nobel Prize for the discovery. But then it gets uglier. WWI happens, and it turns out that the ammonia is also a critical component of explosives. Even worse, Haber himself was called the "father of chemical warfare" because he studied ways to build chemical weapons out of chlorine gas. He even showed up at the Second Battle of Ypres to see chlorine gas used in combat for the first time. He defended the use of chemical weapons and his contributions to military research in general, at one point saying: "during peace time a scientist belongs to the World, but during war time he belongs to his country." (2:34) He came from a Jewish family but he died before WWII started, so he never witnessed the millions being murdered by poison gas in concentration camps, including a few members of his extended family. The discovery that has fed millions of people also led to one of the most horrific weapons ever created. Science is a double-edged sword.
Ironically he did face the Nazis in the days of Hitler’s rise to power. Hitler hated Haber not just him being ethnically Jewish and being one of Germany’s top scientists but because he invented toxic gas and Hitler suffered along with his fellow WWI soldiers on the front from the very weapon he made. The nazis forced him to fire associates and blacklist associates under the Nazi regime when they took over all the institutions for themselves. Haber refused and resigned from his position in the top scientific academy he worked at and fled to Switzerland. the nazis ultimately got a hold of the last gas Haber and his colleagues were working on, a pesticide called Zyklon A.
@@akessel92train holy shit. I didn't know about that very last part. Literally sent chills down my spine reading that. Irony is a cruel thing
@@staringgasmask his son was one of the lead scientists in zyklon-a project. In 1946 he commited suicide in US because he couldnt bear this
I feel sorry for him
Think about it. You create a chemical weapon strong enough to burn organs and are called father of chemical warfare
But then some random Russians just use Uno Reverse + 4 draw card
@@therealslimshady6763 *Osoweic Fortress noises intensify*
Love the spine-chilling chorus. Can't remember the last time Joakim sang that low for that long, but it sounds really good.
Maybe “Inmate 4859” 🤔
Agreed, it reminds me musically of inmate 4859 and the final solution lyrically
@@williamarnold3607 "what's coming next from your inventions?"
Maybe “Hellrider”?
Didnt he sang pretty low in the new song hellfighters
"So who can tell us what is right or wrong, math or morality alone?"
That is by far *the* hardest hitting and thought provoking lyric in any Sabaton song.
There is something thats both evocative and insanely sinister about this song. It sounds like a tragic and sad horror song mixed with something hopeful
But what gets me; is that I can imagine the utter horror his creations made, but ironically his work became the reason CBRN has been banned by the Geneva Convention. So the question is true; did he do right in his work or wrong? If he hadn't discovered his terrible chemical weapons; who today would have written his work in the same blood? And with far fewer moralities?
Nobody knows, but we can be glad that he created this this back then, and not nowadays.
You want to know what's more tragic
He was Jewish and his creation was used to commit the holocaust
On top of that, there's a distinct thing that Father doesn't really go into detail about Fritz Haber, and for that, I'll just let wikipedia give me the quote-
"It is estimated that one-third of annual global food production uses ammonia from the Haber-Bosch process, and that this supports nearly half of the world's population."
It's not only that he made the process, but there's a massive chance that *you* only exist because of Fritz Haber.
@Luna Werefox Ironically we could Feed The entire world's population But Supply Chains and special interests keep that at Bay
@@reddawn1873 the only thing stopping the end of world hunger... capitalism...
I think we can all appreciate the amount of styles of metal Sabaton is able to masterfully pull off. Not all songs have to be loud and rough to give one goosebumps.
I am a fan of the songs with wider ambiance in the recording
I completely agree with you. This song sends shivers down my spine.
Metal is just classical with electricity, and they are motzart
You mean power metal and metal ballads? That's about it tbh haha.
@@syndicatebeast Heavy metal, epic and anthemic metal
Around this time 2 years back, I submitted a request to Sabaton to do a song on the life and works of Fritz Haber. Absolutely stoked to suddenly find they released this masterpiece today! Made my day!
... I actually did too, though it was more recently
And yeah, as soon as i saw the name "father" with a mad scientist as the thumbnail i knew what was going on
I’ve been meaning to send them some requests and this gave me the motivation to, thank you
I wanna hear some new ww2 songs hopefully in the future like the David vs Goliath battle at the naval battle of Samar
@@Thesn1per52 RIP USS Johnston...among others
how do you request
1:06 this part gave me chills
Ok
Oh yeah, i completely agree.
Cool anything else?
Completely agree
The first one hits really well, first time I heard it I also felt some chills
%0 nudity
%0 swears
%0 known soldier
%50 saint
%50 sinner
through the slaughter of millions he saved countless billions
bro its not Powerwolf's song :D
100% reason to remember the name
More like 90% Saint and 10% Demon
@elvisrhi4885 Pretty deadly 10% though.
I appreciate the fact that Sabaton can just casually release a song about someone who is effectively a mad scientist, and for it to also be a fucking BANGER
Fritz Haber wasn't mad. Overconfident maybe.
@@benjaminthibieroz4155 I honestly don’t much about him, i’ve definitely heard the name a few times tho. ig i’ll just have to wait for the sabaton history video to come out about him to really know what this is about
@@lordrobin3011 The Sabaton History video got released a day ago, very informative video
not a mad an he just weaponized fertilizers
@@TDP8837 damn youtube not giving me my notifications, ty man!
More songs about such scientific inventions would honestly be amazing
Perhaps about Da Vinci's tank?
It's like the prequel of Steel Commanders
@@gameral_V yeah, or gun Powder, Rockets and such
True.. love it
@@mannimut1721 oooh yea
Maybe that'll be the theme of a new album.
Hope they can make a song about rhe legend of ben solomon a dentist who made a last stand in ww2 even as a half Japanese my respect for that man is really huge making a last stand inorder for non combatants and injured soldiers to escape even if it caused his own life his bravery is admirable
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He took out almost 100 japanese soldiers who dared to get pass him Cpt. Ben Solomon died on top of a machine gun filled with bullet wounds it just showed he died fighting till his last breath
That man is who inspired me too become a dentist!
That dentist went from filling cavity holes to filling japanese soldiers with bullet holes
@@mur.kultimateluckygamer4015 So from filling cavities, to creating cavities, albeit on a much larger scale.
@@RPGTKingpin Well, he was still putting metal into his patients, so... Not too far apart, innit?
@@The_Modeling_Underdog Bless you brother, that is some fine humor!
The more I have listened to this one, the more it grows and grows on me and is quickly becoming one of my favorites!
We're happy to read it's growing on you 😎
I love two things the most about this song.
1) The feeling of Halloween it gives me
2) The way the father moves his hands. It looks like he is directing the orchestra and the battle scenes that happen on the bottom of the screen
I see it as more his experimentation bleeding into the battle below.
Fritz Haber with the help of Carl Bosch developed a revolutionary process for synthesizing ammonia, a key ingredient in today's modern fertilizer... but also key to the first chemical bomb to be mass produced for use in war...
in a way, Habers experimentation, and what he created, would end up blanketing Europe in a lethal smog.
Jocke was probably like “Halloween song?”
Good Points.
Fritz habar was certainly a contradictory figure killed millions by gas his institute created the gas that was used in the halocaust in 1930s but also created a way to create nitrogen out of air nitrogen if don't know is the most important thing for life along with water and oxygen it is the most common gas in the atmosphere and the most important thing for plant life but not all of it is useable for framing and he sloved it because of that earth can now support 4 billion more people than without his invention guy went food out of air to death out of air
How the hell is this give the feeling of "Halloween"💀
"During times when there's peace he belonged to the world. During times when there's war he belonged to his place of birth!" That is quite the deep phrase to think how people of good may turn into monsters when arms are raised.
Sentence Haber said himself apparently. The effects of his gaz are monstruous. But in a way, he was also a patriot who wanted to help his country in times of danger.
@@rKhael53 Furthermore, he was saying that ending the war as soon as possible will result in less casualties.
@@Majster4K Which could have been technically right.
@@rKhael53 And felt betrayed during the rise of anti-semitism and the rise of Nazism. He was a Christian convert which would probably save him, but not the many scientists who worked under him. That, he could not accept.
@@gregorylumban-gaol3889
It wasn't religion that could have saved him. Hitler wasn't the Inquisition, and Haber couldn't change his genetics.
I find it interesting that a band can pose such a simple yet hard question: “hundreds of thousands killed by his creations, but millions able to live due to the same man’s inventions, is this man a monster, or a savior?”
Billions
Tha man’s discoveries are still making an impact today. As he said a man belongs to his place of birth in times of war and to the world in times of peace. The benefits of his work wayyyyyy outweigh the negatives. Chemical weapons were not good yes, but he revolutionized agriculture allowing for today’s current population.
0% swearing
0% bad words
100% banger
Amen to that.
0% sex
0% partying
1000% power
100% spicy air
35% spicy air
35% Math
35% science.
@@mapleflag6518 those percentages add up to 105% 💀💀 💀
For anyone who might not know: The song is about the guy who’s work led to mass fertilizer production, saving people from famine, and also some of the most horrific chemical weapons in history.
The guy = Fritz Haber (Nobel Prize) :'v
For more info and detail I suggest veritasiums amazing video about him "the man who killed millions and saved billions"
win win he fed the world and killed a lot so he has more food for the rest. He was a genius!
Also developed Zyklon A which was used, after his death, to develop Zyklon B, which was used in the holocaust gas chambers.
Not really the most horrific weapons. His main accomplishment during WW1 was the mass synthesis of chlorine gas, which isn't as deadly as Phosgene or as painful as Mustard. Not to mention nerve agents, those are leagues up ahead.
What he did do is defend and justify the use of chemical weaponry as any other type of weapon, which made him extremely infamous among a good number of people.
I’m a 58 year old father and my 11 year old son asked me to take him and his friend to see “Sabaton” at the Arizona Federal Theater. I had never heard of Sabaton. They were awesome! Whenever Sabaton comes to Arizona I’m going to see them, with him or without him!
Thank you for sharing this Marc! See you there next time
Having a child at 47... that was RISKY
@@thareinpotuhera5255 LOL!!! You are SO right my friend! You might have just given Sabaton a new song to write about!
@@Sabaton
Cant wait until you can finally come to Hamburg :) has been delayed for so long cause of Corona :c
Originally bought cards for me and my dad as a birthday present so we can go together, sadly he wont be able to come this time cause of cancer but I still look forward to seeing you live, first concert in my life as well!
@@PuellaMagiHomuraAkemi It’s sad to hear about your dad. You will love Sabaton live, I certainly did!
2 hours after i had the best bean soup from my grandma in my entire life, i totally felt this lines:
"Father of toxic gas and chemical warfare"
"a poisonous nightmare, a deadly mist on the battlefield"
Everything comes with a price
Gross. And hilarious.
Underrated comment
What did you gain out of this
What did you gain out of this
Not once have I been underwhelmed by your music, thank you for such dedication and hard work. I enjoy your music day by day. Rock on!
🤘💀🤘
Thank you so much for your support
@@Sabaton can you please make more soviet songs? please
@@comradeishaan89604 With Ukraine kicking orks asses, more anti-soviet songs please xD
@@rabarbar4845 Ukraine should definitely get it’s own songs from Sabaton, but making
more Soviet songs wouldn’t hurt either.
People often fail to realize Russia today is far different from the Soviet Union in the late 80s and early 90s. Russia is borderline fascist and is for sure against communism and definitely against a return to it.
Their soldiers may have flown that flag at the beginning of the war, that was an attempt to signify unity under one banner instead of coming off as occupiers, but when Ukrainians didn’t buy it and fought back they ditched the flag and any attempt at hiding their intentions, hence the merciless bombardment of civilians.
Still, I think it’s preferable for Sabaton to make songs about Ukraine, but that won’t be for some time. Not to mention their adamant stance on neutrality from any one faction. So they’ll certainly wait for the war to end before doing anything about it.
@@VRBroadcasting I don't think it'll happen. I can't find anything from wars that happened in my lifetime such as the Iraq and Afghanastan wars. If it exists, feel free to correct me.
I love how the melody of this song really portrays the feeling of a man caught between good and evil. The lifts and guitar ringing with a feeling of hopeful energy and the bass and drums reverberating with a sense of doom and dread. A wonderful song for a man who, if there ever was one, deserves the title of "Nephalem".
Nice analysis Robert
@@Sabaton can you do a song about Alexander the Great?
Nephilim the son of an angle and demon. Which does fit in term of how most people view him.
But for me Haber is just a scientist, an abnormally smart man in a special situation. Ammonia would be found later even if he didn't exist but million would have died by then.
One minor gripe with this song is he is not the father chemical warfare because it occur way before Haber. Peloponnesian forces use sulfur fumes against the town of Plataea or french using tear Gas at the start of the WW1
However, due to his achievement everyone gave him a bad name because of envy and it didn't help that he was on the losing side of war.
@@Sabaton Battle of Saraghiri, 21 Sikhs fought 10k Afghans, they all died, but killed over 600 and held long enough for reinforcements to arrive
@@mohdafnanazmi1674 Yeah people did use gas before but fritz habor pioneered the military use of *lethal chemicals on the battlefield
"In peace-time the scientist belongs to humanity, in war-time to his fatherland" - Fritz Haber
fantastic song as always, keep up with the good work!
Chad Haber
need stuff like new toilets and gaming consoles? nah its war time, heres some toxic gas
@@temp3608 I like that the first things that come to your mind while hearing "scientist" are new toilets and gaming consoles.
@ProstyProtos71 also gamming
Fritz Haber Chad
1:05
Me after mixing all the soaps in the bathroom
Извините что на русском
Парни на уроке химии
Fr
Real.
I will have 2 children. I will name one Toxic Gas and the other Chemical Warfare. Then I will be the Father of Toxic Gas and Chemical Warfare.
We see what you did there and we're not sure how to take it
@@Sabaton We need you guys to come out to South Africa at some point, or I'll just go to Sweden. Both work 🤷♂️
Smart boi😂
😂😂😂😂good one
@@mrburninghands5740agreed. I have a ton of South African military history to show @Sabaton
Literally two days ago I was trying to remember the name of the German scientist who invented fertilizer and developped toxic gas in WW1, and now this song dropped. Amazing!
If you want to know more about Fritz Haber, there is an excellent video about him on the Veritasium channel.
Edit: there is also an episode of sabaton history with Par and Indie
Biographics as well!
Veritasium is a propaganda front. I'd heavily recheck the info and sources.
@River Surreal von Cheesekov IV.
Big if true.
That’s convenient for you
@@thejunktownsheriffkilliand4800 Really? Evidence?
This absolute banger came out of nowhere, and I can’t argue, I can only listen to another 10/10
My guys just came out of nowhere and started spitting bars
They just looked at all recommendations which the fans wanted and nuked the standard out of the chart
German Army: "Surely no one will be able to resist us once we deploy this deadly fume!"
The Russian garrison at Osowiec Fortress: "Allow us to introduce ourselves"
"Allow us to rise again,"
An absolute masterpiece, as always. This song reminded me of Robert Oppenheimer, a physicist also known as "father of the atomic bomb". As his alias suggests, he played a key role in project Manhattan. After the war, he became an outspoken opponent of nuclear warfare. He also used his talents in the fields of physics and energetics. I believe him to be at least worthy of consideration for your next song.
P.S. Sorry for my less than ideal English, as you can probably tell, it's not my first language
im sorry, but oppenheimer seems like an idiot to me. Dude's hired by the govt to create a weapon that could level cities, and when he does that he becomes sorry for his creation?
@@balajikumar4027 it was a lot more nuanced than that. He was, just like many other scientists who helped weaponize atomic energy, aware of the harm this discovery would cause in the wrong hands, e.g. the Nazis. Another great example, which might help demonstrate my point, would be Enrico Fermi - yet another brilliant mind who worked on project Manhattan. Fermi was an Italian physicist who left Italy to escape the racist laws that the then government had instituted. He was rightly afraid of these fascist regimes and the destruction they would cause with such power. I don't believe these highly intelligent individuals had any delusions about the moral ambiguity of their actions, they simply chose the lesser evil
@@balajikumar4027 not Idiot, .
They chose to be evil for someone lesser evil. But atleast he felt remorse.
Rest he already knew what his creation will do, so no way he was innocent
@@alexkill2936
Being Intelligent doesn't Make you Morally wise and vice versa . The term mad scientist/ evil score exists for reason.
Wasnt he also the one who quoted a book? "I have become Death...destroyer of worlds?"
Bro is a legend and deserves a throne among kings. Wasn't much that he did but going against the governmants most powerful bomb at the time was the same as zelensky's BALLS
This song is so eerie and haunting it gave me goosebumps. Which is accurate, talking about the most horrific form of warfare to flood the battlefield.
I fucking loved every second of this
"To flood the battlefield" I see what you did there :P
second most bio logical is worse
@@ianhogben3472 Not in modern days where diseases can be dealt with easier.
It's perfect with Halloween coming up
@@ianhogben3472 3rd worse. Nuclear leaves nothing left and is the end of humanity. It is funnily the Nuclear Option.
Pretty fitting song considering Halloween isn't too far away. Amazing as usual guys
Gotta say this is one of my favorite Sabaton songs it’s quite bone chilling and frankly quite tragic, especially when knowing the original story of Fritz Haber once again amazing job!
Not to mention to mension who he was personally Jewish and what his creation was used for after the 1st World War.
One of the most hard hitting powerful songs sabaton has made to date. Almost knocks you down with each slam on the drums and shivers your spine with every pluck of the guitar and the menacing lyrics make every hair stand on end. Song is just as powerful as Haber's creations were to the ones who wield it
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An ominous song about one of the most horrible weapons ever used in war released just before we enter October, the month of Halloween? I don't know if this is a coincidence or done on purpose, but the song is absolutely amazing as always!
The whole song and video has a Halloween theme.
Sabaton are fucking geniuses.
Also the song was addressing the fact that his creation (Haber-Bosch process) also helped creating first pesticides and fertilizers which caused crops to boom in abundance and entire agriculture and industry in general to completely overhaul themselves. Sabaton are basically modern-age bards.
@@RebelWvlf unrelated but is that Alyx Vance in your profile picture? fellow half life enjoyer?
@@rebel6301 lol I am also Half-Life enjoyer, but this is not Alyx Vance. Profile pic is featuring Tetsuo Shima from Akira manga/anime and I just photoshopped the meme pixel glasses on his face. (Unrelated, but Akira partially inspired Half-Life with environment design)
I love how dark and haunting this is. The guitars along with Joakim's vocals REALLY evoke that creeping terror of gas crawling along the ground with the wind to choke and maim thousands. Well done! It hits exactly the spot of ominous and oppressive horrir while also reminding the listener that they benefit DIRECTLY from Haber's work in the creation of powerful fertilizers for high yield crops. Beyond the grave, he feeds us still.
Yes
A few days after Fritz Haber’s first wife, Clara, shot herself in their garden, he left home to oversee a test of his gas on the Eastern Front. By some accounts, he left the very same day she died.
"It is good that war is so terrible, lest we grow fond of it."
-General Robert E. Lee
Welp, here's another song I'll be listening to over 100 times. Thanks, Sabaton. Your my favorite band.
10,000*
“Who can tell us what is right or wrong, maths or morality alone”
SICKEST LINE EVER HOLY SHIT
Especially the way it was delivered with that riff chugging in the background
Hey, you saw it too! Felt like a caution against relying on merely or just science.
Logic vs Passion
It's the oldest conflict in the human story.
This line still sends shivers.
I don't get it, though. What does it mean?
Instead of just our sense of morality should we also add science to the mix? How does science or math have anything to do with ethics, though?
An alternative meaning I could find which seems closer to what the people in the comments think about that line, but which does make no sense to me considering the manner the sentence is structured, is whether science can be evil?? That question seems kinda stupid, though? Science is only bad if you use it for bad. I don't understand what's so complicated about it.
The indisputable proof that knowledge is not good nor evil, it simply is.
All the times I've worn a gas mask for training, never gave it deeper thought untill now, but I would not be here without it's invention. This song truly reminds you of the horrors your own kin faced in no mans land.
We are indebted to our forebears
"During times when there's peace he belonged to the world..."
This phrase with the bittersweet music in the background is really heartwarming. That's a great job, Sabaton. Love ya.
It is allegedly a direct quote from Fritz Haber himself
@@pedromendes5022 then it's even more powerful and epic
heart warming, the motivations for the Haber-Bosch process where purely for his own nation! "During World War I, the Haber process provided Germany with a source of ammonia for the production of explosives, compensating for the Allied Powers' trade blockade on Chilean saltpeter. "
Sabaton sees no political spectrum or the bullshit of justification of warfare. They see history. History, that is to be both respected and shunt at. Glory, tragedy, shame and all.
@@holthuizenoemoet591 So? The Manhattan project is no different, sure now we use nuclear energy to provide energy to countless homes but it was used to decimate CIVILIAN TARGETS during war times, a scientist is a maker of weapons during war times.
I don’t know if you’re replying to comments so soon, but if you see this Sabaton team, just know that you are a gift to my life. I’ve binged your songs so much and I cannot get enough of them. I’ve already left several comments under many different songs, but I want to reiterate how much you guys mean to me. I barely even listened to music before I came across this band. It’s a phenomenal sight to see that there isn’t a single bad song from you guys(that I know of)
whenever they come to a city near you, go, trust me, save your money, the concert will be legendary
Edit: I've been listening to sabaton sense 2014, and foolishly waited until 2022 to go to a concert. best concert I've ever been to, the entire crowd sang and the atmosphere was just.... PERFECT. goosebumps the entire time!!! If they ever comeback to my city I'm GOING AGAIN!!!
@@BaldurtheImpious I’m definitely going to their concert in Cincinnati next Saturday!
@@eddykidplayzyt awesome, I agree with the other guy. I went to their show in Vegas last Sunday. Having to start school at 7 am the next day didn't make it any worse. It was the best concert of my life.
EddyKidPlayzYT Couldn’t agree more! Can’t wait to see them in concert either!
@@BaldurtheImpious ,.p
Fritz Harber is such a fascinating person with so many accomplishments. I‘m writing a paper for my A levels about the therapeutic uses of mdma and even then he is mentioned for first synthesizing MDA and being wrongly attributed the false title of inventor of mdma. You just can’t escape fitz harber in chemistry.
My son, who has always been interested in warfare and especially the world wars, discovered Sabaton a few months earlier (than I am making this comment). He loves you stuff and how it relates so entirely to what happened in history. I might just have to get some merchandise for him. He'll love it. ^..^
Sounds truly amazing
Best parent ever
What i absolutly love about your songs is that they always suck me into rabbit holes of research onto specific personnages, events and so on about war history.
your lyrics research always impress me. You truly are the legacy of the battle bards and skald of old
I did my studies in chemistry, in particular in research and development in the ammonia sector.
I have studied and discussed a lot about the Haber-Bosch process. Every so often with my colleagues and professors I have discussed who the 2 inventors actually were. As a result, Fritz Haber was ultimately someone who in my opinion did more good than harm in this world. He will go down in history as the most controversial person ever. But he will remain one of the greats of chemistry.
He's up there with Oppenheimer.......
@@Sonichero151 At least Oppenheimer regretted his research, Haber always defended them
@@BlackCrafte from what l get is he does so because it was his duty as well as intention for it to be a psychological weapon of terror not a literal one
@@user-fn2mx6dd5k He was part of the League of Nations Commitee on Chemical Warfare who created the Geneva Protocol.
He did what he had to do for his country in times of war. He did what he could do for the world in times of peace.
@@chrisb9143 that is what l am saying
And making a theoretically more psychological weapon reduces casualties and quickens the end
was he a good person who did bad things or was he a bad person who did good things, a question we all ponder well listing to this masterpiece.
If he in the winner side he gonna considered as good man
He was a bad person
Fritz Haber: "Surely this will assure our victory!"
a hundred russians in a zombie cosplay:
Osowiec then and again
Как прекрасен запах хлора по утру!
...a part "DURING TIMES WHEN THERE´S PEACE HE BELONGED TO THE WORLD, DURING TIMES WHEN THERE´S WAR HE BELONGED TO HIS PLACE OF BIRTH" is absolutely musically phenomenal!!! 🤟
That part absolutely, wonderfully gut-punched me, it was so good.
Fun fact, this was a quote he actually said! "During peace time a scientist belongs to the world. During war time he belongs to his country." - Fritz Haber, father of chemical warfare and nitrogen fertilizer.
Don’t be telling people what they already know.
The most interesting part of it for me is that he never remotely regretted his work, either the fertilizer or the gas weaponry, he had no illusions towards it being humane by the end of the war, but he did consider it a perfectly legitimate form of warfare and didn't really get what the big fuss was about, after all a lot more people died to conventional bombs and bullets than anything he ever developed.
I mean ammonium was also used for normal explosives. Not only chemical warfare.
He saw a death as a death, not the context of that death. A quick bullet and explosion or your body painfully melting from the inside slowly.....
As Fritz Haber himself put it. Death is death, whether from a piece of led or a chlorine shell the end result is the same.
well why should he worry about it? in the end all sides used it rather quickly i might add wich kinda implies all sides were working on poison gas anyway. i mean hell the french went into the war with teargas grenades that had the neat side effect of blinding people for a couple days (sometimes even permanently) because they were to potent. so as usual with ww1 all sides were asshats and did shady shit we just blame the losers of the conflict far more than the entente side.
There is a legitimate question to ask behind it; Is the person who invented a weapon responsable for who it kills, or does the blame rest entirely with those who chose when and how to use it?
My bestfriend in highschool simply looked at me and said i found a band that is you i asked what he ment he just smiled and ive been hooked on sabaton everscence
We need more Sabaton in schools. Sabatons music could make all the difference whether or not a child finds history interesting. ❤
Another banger with the ominous theme and the lyrics questioning morality. I discovered you guys couple months ago and fell in love with your songs, being a history nerd myself. Looking forward to seeing you guys perform!
Welcome to the fandom!
Welcome to Sabaton, Heisenstein.
Ah a new family member, welcome and enjoy your stay.
Welcome to the family :D
Welcome to Sabaton Fandom😃
The dark colours, a green haze over every scene, soldiers walking among crop fields with the man himself overlooking it all... it all combines to set the mood perfectly for the song. My compliments to the people who put this video together!
Love all of sabatons music.
03:17 always sends shivers down my spine. “Where will this lead? What’s coming next from your inventions? We wonder where, where does it end? Who can foresee, see what will be?”. In my mind's eye, I always see some misty cloud, and one after another the faces of Fritz Haber, Robert Oppenheimer and Edward Teller emerge.
The song does a good job of pointing out the horrors Fritz Haber unleashed, but at the same time, it reminds people he did do good work for everyone. This is fair. To be honest, he did what most people would do: he used his talents for his people during war. It's just that his talents fell into the realm of chemistry. At least he didn't pretend what he was doing WASN'T killing people, he just looked at it as his job, like any soldier.
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I’m pretty sure he actually took pride in it.
@@mapleflag6518 Everyone would
@@morgothastartes A lot of the people who invented the nuke didn't. And toxic gas is not quite the same as "any other soldier". There's definitely a difference between putting a bullet through someones head or inventing a mass killing device that horribly tortures thousands to death over prolonged periods of time.
@@EskChan19
You see more reluctance when the weapon is born out of “mutual plausibility”, that is, someone on each side is merely “talking about” a new discovery being possibly applied to war, but not really wanting to go that far since it’s too powerful, then some spy or other hears and reports on them “talking about it”, and the same happens with the OTHER side’s spies. If the spies don’t catch on to the discussion of the REALLY bad weapons, than they might, ironically, never get off the drawing board. I think that was the case with nukes, the German and American spies creating a feedback loop between their top intelligence and weapons development departments, until you had Germany’s hard water project (that was ultimately stopped by professional skiers, of all people), and the Manhattan Project. The war in Europe ended just before America completed its first prototype, but it could still be used against Japan. I’ve had to rethink this, and I wish they hadn’t. It was really only justified as part of the German nuclear feedback phenomenon, and Hitler never authorized the hard water project to be shared with Hirohito’s generals; he wanted it for Germany alone; even as his defeat inevitably loomed, he sent no warning to Japan that such a weapon was at least possible, which could have made a difference. So Japan had no idea such a thing was even possible.
This song gives me the chills like I haven’t felt since The Rise of Evil.
How about inmate 4859 ?
@@soft_er0030 true and don't forget about The Final Solution or does that one only give me chills?
@@nathanjones6005 +. For me, these songs are in the category of "heavy / dark", and for the sake of truth, there are not so many of them in Sabaton’s album. I think "heart of iron" is also suitable
@@soft_er0030 What about "Far From The Fame", "Price Of A Mile", "Cliffs of Gallipoli", for an extra couple examples?
The thing this has in common with rise of evil is about a specific individual, and are usually the bad guy, Inmate 4859 is most definitely a good guy
I like how deep the vocal is in this one. The song sounds almost creepy and nightmarish, and yet hopeful.
Very interesting story as well. Makes me wonder what he was thinking doing both things...
Such a poetic concept when you think about it. Science brought so much good to humanity, "On the fields the crops are grown", but yet, come the "Contradictions" of how deadly the chemicals can also be when used in "Chemical warfare". Gets me every time, gotta be my favourtie song from Sabaton.
"Where will this lead? What's coming next from your inventions?"
If you know that shortly after WW1 two of his coworkers invented Zyklon, which was later enhanced by other chemists into Zyklon B - the gas used in the Concentration Camps of the 3rd Reich, this hits REALLY hard.
New favourite song, definitely.
I wonder if he lived long enough to see that....... if he finally understood the horror
He didn't. Fritz Haber passed away 1934 in Switzerland after he left Germany due to the political unrest (and his jewish coworkers being fired thanks to the new Aryan Paragraph).
Fortunately, I must say. Imagine what witnessing the killings would have done with him. He'd have been like Oppenheimer, I'm sure.
@@manfredvonkarma8455 Wasn't his Father also jewish?
@@aro_ger_ You're right, he had jewish parents as well. Forgot about that
Well spotted Manfred! 👍🤘
My brain: "Father? How good can this be" my body: (chills the whole time the song plays)
Same, fella
Great for October!
same, and yet I can't stop listen to this
Dang man put a coat on if you're chilly.
Why have you forsaken me, In your eyes forsaken me, In your thoughts forsaken me, In your heart ....
I actually first learned about Fritz Haber from a podcast (I don't remember where) that told his entire story. To hear his work summed up in this fantastic song is really awesome! I'm gonna listen to it again, now.
Edit: Oh, one last thing, a chilling historical fact that Sabaton didn't mention on their website about Haber (Which everyone should totally read btw) During the Second World War, after Haber was exiled from Germany, his work would eventually be used to develop Zyklon B, the gas that would later become widespread in the Nazi gas chambers.
about the Zyklon B
Where, will this lead? What’s coming next?
From your inventions?
We wonder where, where does it end?
Who can foresee, see what will be?
implied in the lyrics at least
The thing that really twists the knife in is that Haber believed chemical warfare would result in _less_ deaths. And then his work was basically stolen for the exact opposite purpose.
@@anerrorhasoccurred8727 And it probably didn't even quicken the war, as once both sides started using comparable amounts of gas they were even again, and the stalemate would continue
@@anerrorhasoccurred8727 That's because Haber assumed that his gas would only be used against enemies, not civilians.
I mean, more often than not the only difference between poison and medicine is nothing more than the dosage.
Absolutely killing it again, mates! Keep it up!
"Father of Toxic gas and Chemical warfare". INCREDIBLE PHRASE! THIS BAND SABATON IS FANTASTIC!
Sabaton has become my go-to band. Every day at work i put on a mix, pop in my earbuds and strap in for a history lesson! You guys are amazing!
Man, the lyrics really capture this so well.
At some point, I'm betting there's going to be a song titled "Metal Monsters" depicting the horrors of drone and automated warfare
I actually really like that idea
Give them the idea
That's actually a very good idea.
BO2 lore.
How can there be a band where not a single song is a miss? Every song ever released by Sabaton is a BANGER
Only a few can manage that, and SABATON is one of them.
Have you actually listened to every single Sabaton song?
Passion and humble persistent efforts to improve.... I guess.
You're in the army now is the only song they've got that I'm on the fence about because the message is there but the lyrics and the music are kinda off
Because its basically the same stuff over and over again. They literally use the same chord progressions everytime
As a scientist, every time I hear this song I keep pledging to myself that my knowledge shall never be used to take human lives.
that could be impossible, a hammer can be used to build or to bash heads, nobel made dynamite to help with mining and in the end it was used to blow the ever living bejesus out of ppl
as a science student, and pledge the same; though my old teachers said it would be impossible, i don't want to be remembered like that
Sorry, the kaiser needs you
Unfortunately, this is not a pledge you'll be able to keep. One of the inescapable rules the world runs on is "If something exists, someone will find a way to weaponise it."
Great guitar riffs by Sabaton
Thank you so much! 🤘
Обожаю химию и обожаю Сабатон, а когда эти два кумира соединяются вместе, то получаются великие произведения.
I love chemistry and I love Sabaton, and when these two idols come together, you get great works.
Соласен
oh you will love sience when your ass gets smoked by an Ukrainian Anti-Material rifle
Бром+Хлор=ATTACK OF THE DEADMEN
Так там был один ученый или двое?
@@donatzhakupov8304 Two. Fritz Haber was the main one and Carl Bosch assisted him.
A real winner and a gruesome tune for Halloween, a spooktastic haunting song of warfare and nightmares! You really captured the mad scientist vibe of this man, makes you wonder whether to revere or revile this man for giving WWI the infamous cloud of death that was immortalized on the Western Front.
The same gas that would make 100 Russian troops famous at the same time.
The ded man's marching
He wasn't a man scientist
@@xeon39688 I would believe that, but it captures an aura of one, that maybe he thought it was madness he was brewing; maybe or maybe not seeing what a nightmarish chemical he was crafting.
"and that's when the dead men are marching again!"
Before you decide if you like or hate him, remember poison gas wasn't his only invention. The Haber-Bocsch process mentioned here is used a lot in agriculture, hence the line "fed the world" unfortunately the sane ammonia that's so effective as fertilizer is also effective as an explosive
As a chemestry student, I would just like to say that everything about this terrifies me. The music,the lyrics, Fritz Haber's contradictory achievements... it's a great song.
Sabaton, If you read my message I want to say that you are the band with which I took the guitar in my hands and generally began to get acquainted with metal, your songs do not become obsolete and sound so new, no matter what year they are, I hope you will gain fame, great fame
Thanks for that 😉
@@Sabaton I agree with him! You guys have a real talent for writing music! Every time I listen to one of your songs, it feels like I’m hearing it for the first time! I have no idea how you do it, but please, KEEP DOING IT!!
I already get a goosebumps in the intro, Sabaton really is the modern bard there songs need to be secured in a doomsday vault with other great songs to be preserve so that the next generation can hear there songs
Music like this preserves history just as well, if not better, than written accounts, because we'll always be able to sing the songs, even if we lose our ability to read/write a particular language.
We are just talking about this topic in chemistry class, told my teacher there is a song about it, the wants to listen to it in class tomorrow, exited to see how she'll react when she notices that it's metal haha
well? how'd your teacher react?
This song is awesome. I have always enjoyed learning about the use of chemical weapons in history and the story of Dr. Fritz Haber was such a interesting story about good, evil and patriotism.
You can call him a Father, but this song is your Daddy
OwO
@@AHappyCub Do not
@@WiseArkAngel watcha gonna do, punish me ?
Jk
@@AHappyCub This is why you aren't invited to the family reunion.
@@US_of_A i don't think they'd even have a family reunion to begin with
This was not the song I expected to this title. And just on my father's birthday, nonetheless. This is an absolute banger, like always. The eerie, haunting ambience works really well. Please more songs like this!
Yeah, on the eve of the month of Halloween, no less.
Imagine a movie about Haber like Oppenheimer
yes
Yes
Yes
Yes chain
but this time Hader will sleep like a baby unless im wrong
It’s amazing how in 200 years chemistry went from discovering phosphorus to making gas capable of killing a person by liquidating in their lungs.
not to mention what the CIA figured out about mind control through LSD and such.
One absolutely minor and unrelated thing, but I love that Sabaton doesn't put a very long, silent ending at the end of the video. So that each song loops perfectly, or there's no awkward pauses when you are listening to them in a playlist... Quality band in all aspects!
Sabaton is the band that helps me not to drown in depression and keep looking for inspiration in your songs. Keep up the good work you guys are the best
My words exactly!
This song inspired me to start my own chemical weapons bussiness.
Never let your dreams be dreams. 🙏
@@SlaaneshM30 OI, go pray to a malfunctioning blender to appease its machine-spirit or something instead!
@@SlaaneshM30 Never lose that entrepreneurial spirit, friend!
anybody else have bone deep chills listening to this?
In a way I can get the creepy air. Morality, inventions... it leads to people still racking their brains on how to judge these cases.
i can't stop listening to this song. thats how good it is