How Near-Death Experiences Support Christianity (and challenge other worldviews)
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- čas přidán 29. 06. 2024
- Do NDEs vary from culture to culture? How often do people see Jesus? Do Buddhists see Buddha and Hindus see Krishna as often as Christians see Jesus? Do they support reincarnation? The answers to these questions might surprise you. My guest today, Dr. Steve Miller, has extensively studied NDEs and concludes that they rule out materialism, New Age, Marxism deism, and uniquely favor Christianity. Find out why!
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My dad was a WWII vet. He died just a few years ago at 93. He was sitting there dying, hospice was there with my mom. He was in his own world so to speak. Not part of any conversation. About an hour before his heart stopped, his eyes opened wide and he said, "oh! My lord and my savior!" I think about tht al.ost daily. I cant wait to be with him again.
What a memory yo treasure.
WOW, that would give me so much comfort.❤ What an amazing thing to witness.✝️🙌
Was your dad a firm believer in Jesus Christ and did he understand that Christ died to pay for his sins so he didn’t have to? If he attended a church, which one? PS. I’m so thankful for all brave soldiers like your dad!
Hallelujah. I told a dying man who was incapacitated and just not enjoying life for years and I was literally employed to feed him baby food. During my feedings he'd go to sleep or I'd wake him for his lunch. I asked him what he dreamt and he said he was fishing or walking and he appeared happy. I said do you believe in Jesus and he said yes, he dreamt he was in church. I told him the next time an angel came and asked him if he was ready to say "I am ready!" Later he was hospitalized and then he died. His daughter asked me about her dad. She said he had been getting better then he started crashing. He sat up and yelled I am ready and died. I hadn't told her about our discussion and I didn't want her to blame me but her father literally had no quality of life and I believe he was hanging on for her because she wanted him to live regardless of his suffering.
@@KM-zn3lx That’s a beautiful story! I’ll look for him when I get there. Jesus will show me where he is!
It seems that when people talk about NDEs, they usually talk in positive language about it. However, years ago, before I met my husband, his father clinically died. He told my husband that it was the worst experience that he couldn't even describe. It was burning up and smelled horrible, and he was aware of the greatest agony ever. Voices called out in pain too.
My father-in-law didn't know much about faith so didn't recognize what his experience was. But when he told my husband, my husband told him that he had been to hell. His father admitted that he had only been calling himself a Christian, and this allowed my husband to lead his father to the Lord. He's still miraculously alive years later and now has led many family members to Christ. So this one scary experience saved numerous souls!
I read a research paper on NDEs in the medical field once, specifically negative ones. It's on pub med I think. One spoke of entering into "nothingness." Alone, seemingly floating, in nothing. Just a crippling, terrible sense of eternity in this "nothing" stretching ahead of them. Such was the emptiness they couldn't even tell if they were floating upside down or sideways or upright. There was no sound, no form, not even light and shadow. Just them, alone, with their thoughts in the nothingness for eternity.
Just reading it terrified me.
Many ppl suffering these negative NDEs were profoundly affected and required help dealing with the experience from professionals.
Others contained typical imagery of Hell or experiences of judgement, separation, deep regret and fear.
It was a sobering read. Not many focus on the negative experiences.
Awesome!
Ive heard many similar stories. From both heaven and hell.
And now your sharing this story helps to solidify those of us who do have faith. You can never have too much faith.
From the reading I have done those that kill themselves but are revived go though a similar experience to your father in law.
I was dead from an alchohol overdose in 1984 ( for 46 minutes) at the age of 17, I was in the pit spoken of in Psalm 88, Which did not occur to me until 7 years later when reading the Bible, I Was so scared of the memory of what happened I threw my Bible across the room, I was in Sheol, the pit. I was being Crushed by what felt like inky black darkness and a lack of God's presence..This was a lie of the enemy as somehow I was able to just cry out "Jesus Help me!" and I woke up in a body bag being wheeled to the morgue with my whaling mother crying next to the gurny..I heard the nurse or tech or what ever he was say "OH MY GOD he is allive," it happened at Trippler Army. Medical center in Honolulu ,HI. In June 1984..
WOW
😯
@@rhondaurbplee be careful of people's good ndes.. I believe these are a trick of satan to make people believe they are OK with God when they are
not. God bless you.
@rhondaurb I did not remember it till years later and as I read Psalm 88 I rembered it in pitch black technicolor..
Wow thanks for sharing this and praise Jesus he brought you back. Please share your story that others may meet and know Jesus as their saviour
I was a hospice nurse for a couple of years. I have noticed that when patients stop eating. Which happens a couple of days prior to death. Most will tell you they are either seeing demons and angels. My personal opinion is that they are on a fast. Which increases their spiritual senses. I have had people that came out of a coma saying that they had to call this person to ask for forgiveness, I need a pastor, or baptism. Most people I've encountered have almost always come to the conclusion there was heaven, hell, angels and demons. I believe it's God's last ditch effort to bring that person to the kingdom.
His love is unfathomable. ❤
Thanks for reporting on deathbed experiences from the front lines: hospice! Much good research is coming out in hospice journals. I've had very good experiences with hospice as I've assisted loved ones close to death.
And AMEN to that!! Finally some Truth! I also work with Hospice patience...some fear and terror and some so much peace. My last lady.was literally glowing after life and a look of surprise and pure Joy like I've never before seen before!!
Praise Be To God she.was a godly woman who lived her life in pursuit of Jesus. ❤ See ya later Kat!!!❤❤🧔♂️👑🙌✨️
Yes and many nde's if not all are likely Satan's deception. I've had one myself and read, watched loads and I suspect Satan has an attempt to harvest souls upon death.
Now that makes sense to me! He wants no one to perish!
My father died on the operating table in 1951 from complications of TB (main surgeon pronounced him dead). An assisting surgeon got permission from the main surgeon and he used a putty knife type instrument and began scrapping out the diseased parts of his lung. My father revived (his heart started beating again). He lived with basically 1 1/2 lungs the rest of his life (passed away to 2000). My family was forever grateful to that assistant surgeon.
My Dad didn't talk about it much but I remember the times he did. He said he was going through a tunnel and saw a bright light at the end with a figure of a man. As he was approaching, the figure communicated as if to say 'its not your time yet'. Then he 'felt' himself going backward out of the tunnel and...(back in his body).
Had he died, I never would have been born.
Praise God. Glad your father made it my friend.
What a great story!
That's so cool.
I’m glad that surgeon was so spunky and did not shrink from trying that!
Absolutely incredible! God meant for you to be here! How Glorious 🙌🏻
A friend was a shaman when he died. He went to a dungeon type place being tortured by 3 horrific demons. While being tortured the worst he said was the demon's telling him nobody knows you are here and nobody cares and you are never leaving here. They lied because Jesus came and saved my friend from this place. Jesus told him to tell people that this place is real and to repent and believe the WORD!! I CRY EVERY TIME I TALK ABOUT THIS. AMEN
Amen
Never deal with the spirit world. The Bible tells that! Yeah! .. for that person that he got saved!
My grandma was a diabetic and was blind near the end. She was visited by her friend Ruby in hospice whom she hadnt seen for 40 years i think. She couldnt see or speak but just before she passed she said "Ruby, Jesus is at the foot of my bed" and then went to be with the her heavenly Father.
They really ARE seeing these people. I’m a retired nurse and yes I’ve seen this also
@@vickiehadd4324You see those people through a new death experience. What about me I see those people all the time I am a clairvoyant medium
My great grandfather was dying, laying down. He sat up, opened his eyes, looked directly at one spot above the door frame, the biggest smile came over him. He kept looking for a few seconds, then laid back down, closed his eyes, in complete peace and died about an hour later.
I had a nde while giving birth to my second child I left my body and was floating above my body watch my husband crying and the doctors resuscitating me then I was back in my body pushing the baby out they had given me a drug called pethidine and it stopped my heart I went on to have 6 more children I believe in life after death God and Jesus ❤
Wow! Praise Jesus Christ ❤
❤❤❤ GLORY BE TO GOD, GOD BLESS YOU AND YOUR FAMILY
Jesus IS God!
God bless you
I am a nurse and am intrigued w NDE’s. I think that without a doubt they prove a spiritual world and evidence of a soul which is wholly separate from our physical body. For those reasons, I pray that naturalists and materialists consider this evidence and become seekers of Truth!! They will find Truth Himself and His name is Jesus.
How have you eliminated that NDE’s are just artefacts of oxygen starved or dying brain? Everything we know points to consciousness being a property of brain activity.
We know that a hypoxic brain is capable of hallucinations. We know that stimulation of the angular gyrus can produce OBEs. We don’t know if NDEs occur after a brain goes offline or before a brain comes back online. When a brain goes an extended period of time with a lack of oxygen, neural cells begin to die through apoptosis. Although some brain cell death usually occurs throughout a person’s life, large numbers of brain cells dying simultaneously can result in diminished brain function or brain death. We know the amount of time the brain can survive without oxygen before brain damage occurs will vary from person to person. We know regular training can help increase the body’s efficiency concerning oxygen consumption, allowing the brain to last for more extended periods of time without a fresh oxygen supply. For example, the Guinness World Record of holding your breath is more than 24 minutes.
To conclude an NDE proves a spiritual world or is evidence of a soul is unfounded.
Well I believe simply because the Bible said, John 4:24 English Standard Version 24 God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth. We take the narrow road to get to him, but we live in these bodies only a short time, what’s a body but merely a vessel. God found us a way through by the spirit.
I have responded to this string a few times trying to include a link to a medical video. It seems that it keeps getting kicked out, so I won’t include the link this time around. The gist of the video is the recent finding that dying brains have heightened conversation-like activity that cannot be labeled hallucinations. Search for it. Intriguing at the least. Spiritually enhancing at its best!
@@Jonas-gl9keYou speak as an authority. I’m not. But, I respect referencing empirical knowledge. And, I can look up your claims and consider them reasonably based on reliable knowledge from credible sources.
Wish I’d seen this live - I am an evangelical Christian….. I had a respiratory and cardiac arrest and I didn’t see anyone…… but I went from sheer terror as I knew I could no longer breathe so this weird overwhelming sense of peace and knowing I was not alone - it could’ve been a second or ten million years - there was no time. I know that doesn’t make sense as even as I write, it makes no sense to me….. but that’s how it was. I knew I was not alone, and the total peace and contentment was like nothing I’ve ever experienced.
As they resuscitated me I was all of a sudden in extreme pain and feels so anxious and scared as I was back in my body again.
I told one of the nurses and she went so white and looked freaked out when I was conscious a few days later and off the ventilator…… she told me that as I last breathed out - the part I said I felt this……. It turns out I was medically technically dead…….. and when I said I felt this burning sensation and the fear returned as I felt my chest move and heard talking - apparently the name I heard was the nurse who resuscitated me…… I said I knew the Lord was with me.
I had backslid massively in my faith, and this brought me back to the Lord again and I’ve never been more definite in my faith. He is so goood x
Wow!
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I had at least 2 NDE's already, and everything slowed down like a movie rewinding in slow motion, certain special memories of my whole life flashed through my mind as I was mugged and beaten by 5 Spanish men and had a knife held to my throat a woman opened up her window and screamed "PLEASE don't kill that man over drugs"" the police are on the way".... As they rubbed me of drugs I had bought for a girlfriend, the memories kept flashing and i KNEW I HAD DONE SO MUCH WRONG HERE. I CHANGED MY LIFE FOR A LONG TIME AND THAT EXPERIENCE STILL HAUNTED HAUNTS ME TODAY. IT ALSO HAPPENED TO ME BEING ROBBED AT GUNPOINT WHEN A THUG JUMPED IN MY BACKSEAT AND PUT A PIECE TO MY HEAD.
GOD WANTS ME HERE FOR A REASON. PRAY FOR ME 🙏
It makes perfect sense to me. I died for more than 5 minutes from an asthma attack, that sent me into respiratory and cardiac arrest.
Why does the Trinity not appear in the Bible?peace
@@lufhopespeacefully2037 He does. You haven't read it very closely.
I was a pediatric nurse in 1994 and one of my patients was 12 or 13 yrs old. She was lucid and awake but dieing from leukemia one night I came into work and she said to me “ I know u can’t see this but there’s a door on that wall over there and 2 angels r coming in and out of it. I told her that was because she was so special and loved and they were there to help her be at peace. Several hours later she said now there are 3 coming into my room and I’m pretty sure one is Jesus” gave me chill bumps and all I said was I told u that u were special . I went about 8 and got the call an hour later that she had passed. I took such joy in knowing Jesus had carried her Hisself in His arms to heaven
Thanks for the very moving account. I'm glad you didn't try to shut her down, but allowed her to share and helped to make the experience meaningful to her. Dr. Diane Komp, who was an academic pediatric oncologist, was brought from atheism/existentialism to the Christian faith by working with dying children. She tells about it in her little book, A Window to Heaven.
@@stevemiller6368 I can see how that would happen for her! I was already a born again Christian but not walking with the Lord at that time, but I can tell u my life was forever changed due to that experience. It made me such a better nurse, wife, mother,grandmother and all around better person and stated me on the road to find my way back to God. I’m going to order that book. Thanks for sharing!
@@stevemiller6368 I once walked in on a dad on his knees praying for God to take the leukemia away from his son and give it to him. So touching I cried. I left that position soon after that to take a job at at hospital closer to my home and about 6 weeks later got a call from a friend who was still working on my old unit. She said I e got good and bad news for u I said give me the good news first she said M.L. Is cancer free and his dad now is in the icu with the exact same leukemia his son had. Dad ended up dieing son ended up growing to adulthood doing great .I still get chill bumps when I think about it.
@@msurowka5 Thanks for reporting the difference this made in your life. People need to hear these testimonies. If an experience is not inconsistent with Scripture and the fruit is so good, I suspect that God orchestrated this experience not only for the comfort of the little girl in her transition to the other side, but to impact your life as well. It's such a privilege to be there when such powerful events occur!
I had a lot of spiritual experiences throughout my life. Christianity didn't answer what was happening to me so I ended spending decades in the new age. I am very grateful to be born again today. It is important we listen to people and not dismiss them. Im lucky i didn't lose my soul and I wouldn't want that for anyone else.
The Bible dos answer everything but when dogmatic pastors and churches make everything mean what they want, well you can make anything work. I have had supernatural experiences my entire life, the church has never ever been able to help with answers, always making the same insinuations about me being in sin or letting the devil in, when in fact I was just more advanced spirituality. I continue to be very spiritually active PTL. I love the Word, church, not so much.
@@diademglow3429 Christianity is not about religion, it's about The Gospel. Religion says "DO"; The Gospel says "DONE."
VERY important point to remember!! 5:59
Why does the Trinity not appear in the Bible?peace
@@lufhopespeacefully2037 What?
I had an amazing experience with Jesus years ago. 1. No one tells you it is Jesus, you just know Already.
2. The love is a million plus a million plus a million you feel, unlike the love here.
3. Jesus sees and knows everything all the time.
My dad had near death experience, all he said was, " don't bring me back again", he was a combat veteran, he said it was peaceful there, was enough for me.
God richly bless you & yours for this confirming program.
I've had 2 NDE's & it's beyond difficult not to be believed, especially by loved ones, but also by church leadership who said, "It was anesthesia, you must've done drugs before, it's of the enemy, etc".😢
The consolation is the Lord knows & apparently many others do also.
I'm 65. The 1st one was when I was 16 & died on the operating table. God said it wasn't my time & put me back in my body. Many doctors, nurses & reputable witnesses to these facts.
The 2nd time, I was 29 & involved in a very serious car accident. The Lord God was gracious enough to give me the choice to return or not.
God is love.
He is so good and always meets us with grace.
Thanks for sharing. It's strange to me that some in church leadership can be so dogmatic, saying all such experiences are of the devil or due to drugs or whatever, while the Bible never clearly states this. They claim to be sticking close to the Bible, but by their actions and words they seem to be adding to the Scriptures. Sure, we don't need to accept every claimed visions, but biblically Paul tells us to "examine everything carefully." (I Thessalonians 5:21)
I died from a failed liver at the age of 17 ....and im back to tell about it
....and with my garantee heaven and hell exist ive been there....i❤you trust in Jesus and the holy spirit....
Thanks for sharing!
I live in former East Germany, and for the past thirty years, we've been doing an apologetic ministry, specially designed to reach out to atheists. In all those years, we've used arguments against evolution, archaeological facts, fulfilled prophecies, and also: near death experiences as proof of the afterlife. I've read Steve Miller's first two books, and this interview is once again sooo inspiring. I recently got to know a woman, not so very old, but she has to live in an old people's home, because she has had severe illnesses. During one of her life-threatening conditions she had a NDE. Now, she isn't at all religious, quite the typical east German atheist. But this video gave me the idea to search for some German material which might make a connection between her NDE and a loving God. God bless, from Germany
Near death experience,is making us Christian to be sure JESUS IS alive
Gibt es da nichts darüber in deutsch?
Why does the Trinity not appear in the Bible?peace
It does! God the Father sent Hus unique son Jesus to pay the penalty for our sins. When Jesus ascended to Heaven, He told his disciples that he would send his spirit, the Holy Spirit, which he also called his advocate to enter all who believed in him (Pentacost). That's in the Book of Acts (or the Acts of the Apostles). Not long ago, I was a know-it-all atheist. God chose to make himself known to me and I accepted his invitation which saved my life. You can start by reading the New Testament with an open heart and mind like I did. I suggest the ESV or NIV versions to begin.
@@jigawatts121 ,In the Quran, God forgave Adam and Eve their sins, but in your Bible Jesus paid the price for a sin he never committed, whichever is more logical and merciful, especially since there is no an urgent need for that..as far as i know trinity is an old worshipping for some an egyptians who have worshipped ezice,authorice&hurce ,later on the church has abducted the notion&also The concept of a trinity predates the Bible. The concept of a trinity predates the Bible. The much older Hindu Vedas had a holy trinity.Called the trimurti, it was Brahma the creator, Vishnu the preserver, and Shiva the destroyer, three individual deities that are also a single deity.peace.
When my mom passed from cancer. I was taking care of her. On her last day she called me into the room and said, “this lady is telling me to repent, so pray with me”. We prayed together and several hours later she passed. Her passing is why I’m turning my life to Jesus now. Idk who she saw, but that was evidence enough for me.
God's grace be with you
Maybe she saw Mary
I have never had a personal NDE, but last year I had a vivid dream of a giant party for the owner of a company that my grandfather worked for, for years when I was a child. I kept seeing the owner and that there were many people celebrating him tremendously, like he had accomplished something outstanding. I wooke up abruptly early in the morning mid-dream. My mother called me less than 10 minutes later, saying that she had something important to tell me. My immediate response was "It's ok Mom, my uncle, who I then named to her (who had the same name as this owner of the company) died!" She said "Who told you?" I responnded with retelling her the dream. The uncle was a christian.
I've never had an NDE but on the Saturday morning my maternal grandfather died in June 1979 and at about the same time-I only found out about his time of death via a phone call from my family around the 1:00 p.m. hour the same day-I was lying in bed in the morning but not yet awake. I was not dreaming but my sleeping state could be described as 'halfway to awake.' My eyes were still closed and I have a visual memory of a plain, dark gray 'field of view' against which the shortest possible message became mentally apparent; it was:
[Your] grandfather is dead
The "Your" was as if understood but not mentioned, which is why I enclosed it here in square brackets. Again, just the barest/shortest possible message that got the essence of the information across to me. There was no emotional element accompanying this, just the minimalist message content itself. This no-frills communication was on a mental level, not a visual thing like words appearing on a physical chalkboard would be, nor was it audible like a voice speaking those words would be, and so my memory of the message itself was not visual like the 'dark gray field of view' portion of the memory was.
I only remembered this pre-waking experience after receiving the family phone call and death notification later. My pre-waking message experience was odd too because it didn't seem to be some sort of necessary measure to 'soften the blow' to help me receive the news later that day, and I've never figured out why I NEEDED to be given some 5-6 hours 'advance notification' of my grandfather's death, communicated to me at the same time it apparently happened. The pre-waking mental message was just THERE, and it was very 'bare bones' and factually clear but without elaboration. It was also one-way, like receiving an email is nowadays.
So I still don't know what to make of this experience. I was already a Christian at the time it occurred.
@@ChipsAplentyBand
Maybe just confirmation of the supernatural spiritual realm for you or anyone you tell this to.
@@christinaheagy4602 Indeed, perhaps so. I do think that anytime someone comes up with NEW INFORMATION that's verifiable and that they had no way of knowing-e.g., say someone going through a NDE or OBE 'sees' something far away from where they are in a location they've never visited and reports what they 'saw' later-that it at least argues for the reality of some type of extrasensory perception that's independent of eyes, ears, touch, smell, and taste.
My mom told me she had died when she was in labor with me. (I was born feet first and face down, so completely backwards.) She told me she had died and went through a long tunnel of light, and found herself among a lot of deceased relatives and that she had felt IMMENSE love and wanted to stay there forever. This happened many years before very many reports of NDEs existed (1962). She told me it was far more real than this world, and that she was eventually told she would have to return to life. She said she was FURIOUS at finding that out, and was very angry with the doctors who saved her life. She would tell me this story, over and over through the years, and told me that she was no longer afraid of death AT ALL.
She passed away in 2017. My dad went on living for almost a year longer. I once asked him if he had ever gotten tired of hearing that story of how she had died and came back, and he was SHOCKED. She had never told him that story! But she had shared it with me for DECADES. I hope they have had a lot of laughs about that since their passing, and I hope we can all get a big laugh about it too when I join them.
Why didn't she tell him I wonder. Very strange she didn't tell him
@@foreveryoungnz It's been a real mystery to me. She told me that story over and over. I don't know if it was a religious reason (they were both VERY devout, studious Christians). Perhaps she felt that her experience would not be seen by him as legitimate because it's "not scriptural". I don't know. But she was VERY open with me about it, and reminded me of it frequently. That they both died peacefully in their sleep relieved a lot of my grief and I felt I had really good closure. I just wish I knew why she never told him.
@blackbeardsghost6588
It's probably the reason as you said!
My grandpa had a similar NDE story when he was mad at the doctors for bringing him back
I flatlined for over 5 minutes from a severe asthma attack, 29 days before my 21st birthday. To make a long story short, there are no human words to describe the overwhelming sense on love and peace of the other side. The white light (tunnel) is there. My grandpa met me there as I made my way in. He told me it was not my time and I had to go back. There is no fear, pain, sadness, etc., on the other side. Especially time, there is no time. It's hard to explain but there isn't. I was already Christian prior to my NDE but my experience obliterated any doubt of our Lord, God, and the Holy Spirit.
When I came back I told my mom that I watched her save my life. It freaked the paramedics out. They even backed away from me for a bit.😂
I can't wait to once again be in the presence of God and feel that love and peace. It brings tears to my eyes just remebering it. And of course to see all of my family, friends, and furnabies that have crossed.
Can you tell us a little bit more of how it was to see your grandpa on the other side? Did you get euphoric? Did you hug him? Please describe it for us! 🙏
Why does the Trinity not appear in the Bible?peace
My mother, an unbeliever at the time, had attempted suicide and lived. While in the hospital she had an NDE. Saw the tunnel, light, and her favorite relatives who had passed on years ago (as far as I know none of them were believers either). They told her she needed to go back because her kids needed her. She sadly returned to her body. Never had an easy life after that but when she passed many years later, she was a Christian. And we kids were glad to have her back for those years. No telling what would have happened to us if she had succeeded. I'm a Christian and don't know what to make of it. She was past the veil - but I don't think she was in heaven.
I don't want to see family members that have died first. I want to see the Lord. Anybody after God is gravy.
If they didnt believe then they werent there. you either believe the bible or you dont.
The bible is Not god
Mm☆,q
I have watched hundreds of NDEs, and I can assure you that people who commit suicide do not go to a positive place, the place where she was at is an antechamber, from there, should she have stayed on the other side or should her experience be longer, she would’ve gone to a horrible place. I’m really, really glad she had a second chance and she now knows Jesus. 🙏🤍✝️
I commend the host for being such a great listener and not taking too much air time for himself!
Sean is a really good interviewer.
He is very inclusive and understanding, great listener and interviewer!
One of Sean's greatest features and benefits.
I saw the light and feel the love while I experienced NDE many years ago, the feeling I can not describe, you no longer need any earthly things to feel good, it's absolutely real!
No light, a peaceful darkness and the love is like no other
I had a near death experience, i was 7 years old i was riding my bicycle in circles on the second floor of an apartments building and it was an L i was riding directly towards the post that was made of stone and cement it was very tick and fat and i aimed at it i was a child i was experimenting something inside of me told me not to do it so when i turned away it was too late for i hit the post i crashed and my head took a huge impact so much so that i lost consciousness i got out of my body and flew perhaps i got a glimpse of my body i didn't take a good look at it i was attracted by the love of God i felt relieved i felt at home i was walking this beautiful pathway a pathway i have never seen before that day and have not encountered again and while i was walking towards the light and love of God i felted loved and God spoke to me through my heart he said does anybody need you at home and then i remembered my mother, my grandparents and my sister i thought my mom doesn't seem to need me since she is always telling me to go away, but my sister does need me for sure i had that in my heart and i thought of telling God that they will be okay without me but i felt a force pull me back to my body fast as i heard someone calling michelle michelle michelle when i woke up i was wet and i took a deep breath i saw my friends julia and her mom and my sister they were all worried about me, crying and julias mom hugged me and told me she thought i was death, i don't remember saying anything about my death experience that day
Thank you for making this video available to us!🙏. It’s beautiful and perfectly timed for my life.
I had an experience like this after surgery a little over a year ago. It was the most profound moment that goes beyond any words I could ever say. I was in total unity with love, with God…. It brings tears to my eyes every time I ponder that moment. A timeless moment that showed me that my life will focus on service and love to others.
I’m a retired military officer and a disabled veteran with major injuries to my spine and joints (hips, knees) as well as PTSD, but I can still help. My life is nothing without giving love and support to those around me.
Now I say the Jesus Prayer all day, every day. When I say the Jesus Prayer as a mantra my life and the lives of those around me improves significantly. That isn’t a coincidence. It’s my duty now to help anyone and everyone I can. To help in any way I can until I can return.
Given the current “woke” tyranny I know I’m needed to show people they do not need to judge others in order to be just and good. Quite the opposite in fact.
My Hindu grandmother died and came back to life. She went to paradise. She met Gabriel.
She never heard of the angel Gabriel and never read the Bible. She said that words could not describe paradise.
Very interesting.
My step-brother's cousin was having chest pains. We took him to the ER, and they released him, saying it was gas.
He died on the drive home. Slumped over in his seat, we rushed him back.
He had a heart attack and they shocked his heart back into rhythm after several minutes.
He described screaming, fire and torment. (He was not a good person. He was also an atheist, and his experience turned him Christian in an instant.)
Sadly, he relapsed to his former ways some time later.
What were his sins?
I am not in a very good spiritual state at the moment. To say that I am somewhat skeptical of these things is an understatement. However, I really like Sean McDowell and this video was fascinating to listen to. I encourage anyone to listen to this, no matter your beliefs (or lack thereof). I really appreciate how Sean McDowell approaches this with integrity and being honest, not only about his own beliefs, but his conclusions about the available data related to those beliefs, even if I am not sure I agree with those beliefs. I can certainly respect that approach: I never like someone trying to play mental games with me, and I do not get that sense from this video channel. Totally recommend this channel.
Thanks Byron!
Me as well at times, but I have No doubt about Christ.!
I am often skeptical, but sometimes it’s psychological and not logic. Feelings often don’t align with facts. Not sure how else to explain many of the NDEs other than there being something like a spirit of a person, implying naturalism isn’t true, but I *feel* hesitation to embrace it, probably for psychological or personal reasons in part (which isn’t good). I haven’t seen a good rebuttal to some of the NDEs though.
I think it’s reluctance to believe something that seems too good to be true
@@thetrollpatrol8799. I agree, and yet, thank God it is true.
I had this happen to me when I was 19. I had a out of body experience and I was shown both heaven and hell and when I came back I dropped to my knees with the biggest tears I had ever had begging god please I don’t want to come back I don’t want to come back! It was the single most life changing experience I have ever went through. Also I remember when he showed me hell it was kinda like the footprints in the sand poem. I felt no fear and I realized it was because he was carrying me also I never seen him but I just could feel him and he never spoke like with a audible voice it was more like telepathy I could just feel him. It’s hard to explain. Also the experience started leaving my memory so fast. I wish I could remember everything that happened. But the experience was leaving my memory faster than I could tell my friend what had just happened to me. But it was such a wonderful experience I ever had. Life changing
The thing about this experience I had I didn’t fall asleep. I asked my friends if I fell asleep when I got back and the told me no they told me the things I had done.while this was going on and it seemed like I was gone with god for a long time hours but in actuality I was only with him for about 10 or 15 minutes.
My husband, when he was a teen, died on the operating table while the doctors removed a tumor. He saw light and felt incredible peace. Waking up he knew there was SOMETHING out there and didn't know if it was God or Buddah or whatever even growing up in a christian home. He went to church because a girl he liked invited him. In the worship he experienced the same feeling and the same peace he felt with his experience and concluded it must be God 🤍
Did he think it was Buddha or was that you?
@@bryanbulmer6716 I am quoting pretty directly what he usually says when telling his story :)
He didn't have a conclusion of who or what it was that he saw directly after his death experience, but did later recognize the same "vibe", the same peace and love and presence in worshipping Jesus :)
Not sure if that answers your question?
Very interesting that the same oeace was there.....no doubt evidence of God's presence
I'm convinced that when my mom (a believer) passed a few years ago, she was seeing something in the room that I wasn't seeing. Several times in the week leading up to her death, I'd be sitting with her and all of a sudden, she'd reach both her arms up into the air as if she were grasping for something I couldn't see. She was pretty weak but she had the strength for that. Each time I'd ask her, "Mom, are you seeing something good?" and she'd nod and nod her head. Whatever she was seeing -- maybe Jesus? -- she really wanted it. She wasn't the least bit afraid to die either. She was so ready.
Sounds similar to when Johnny Cash’s brother (devout believer) died.
My Father-in-law's mom was im her 80's and she did the same thing.
In the days just before she died my own elderly mom did something similar several times-pointed across the room and said, "Oh, look at that!" When I looked, there was nothing there but the wall. Ever the science experiment fan, once when she did that I quickly placed my head ear-to-ear with hers so I could look from almost the same vantage point, but I still saw nothing but the wall. So if God was showing her 'something beyond the veil' it was evidently meant just for her.
Thats what my grandad did, weeks leading up to it he saw them, he said they were men there to escort him. Right before he went, he told my grandma they were back, my grandma told him to go with them, and he did. Still makes me teary-eyed.
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I was a Hospice Chaplain, 30 years, numerous death stories, One guy was hanging onto the bed rails screaming "I'm on fire" Another who was a devout hater of Christianity, He was dying in one of our Hospice rooms, The staff requested that I go and see them, perhaps help? When I walked into the room he was thrashing in bed, people were hanging all over him trying to keep him down, telling him its OK to die, they look toward the doorway were I was standing, & yelled at me "We don't want your spirit in here."
Had many who saw Jesus, spoke to deceased family friends at death.
Glad to see your video,
Thanks for your harrowing reports from the front lines!
Thank you, Sean. I really appreciated the discussion on love. 23:00. I find that as a pastor, a person (often including myself) so easily forgets that Jesus loves him or her (or me!) and what it means. A result of forgetting is that we often seek to invent meaning, value, and purpose to and for our lives elsewhere, and it never comes close to the indescribable love that Jesus has for us. People get lost in sexual issues, tribal issues, vocation issues, education issues, and then some, all for the sake of identity. I am convinced that this is the major problem in the world today: identity crisis. We are all children of God, in the sense that God created us, but not everyone is an heir to the promise. If we knew WHO we really are (beloved creations of God), and if we could consistently know and believe this, it seems our lives would transform into something true, good, and beautiful through and because of the work of Christ on the cross.
Amen!! I believe this is all a part of the worldly system connected with Satan's plan. We live in a world obsessed with celebrity status and false identity, unfortunately.
My dad had a NDE and went to a place that was peaceful and beautiful and saw some relatives but he could not remember who they were when he came back. He had a GI bleed and had to be resuscitated at the hospital. He said he would not be afraid to die any longer. He did not tell very many people about it, but he told me about it.
I was a kid probably around 10, chocked on a lozenge, while crying about breaking a snowball gifted from my grandfather. I saw myself from above. Everything was blue and i wasn't alone and i was terrified to go, my mother was trying everything to get me to get a breath in. She turned me upside down which i saw from above.I never felt being flipped, it looked kind of silly. The presence i felt was the most comforting thing ever. My mother got that thing to move. My body took a breath, i was back in my body, but for the rest of the week afraid to go to bed and just float away.
I had a hysterectomy about 26 years ago. During my surgery I lost a lot of blood on the table as my physician Dr Kristi Jett told me. She also told me she took my uterus out in 67 pieces!!! I was shown a glimpse of the other side because I found myself in a field of flowers of unimaginable colors. I was standing knee deep and the flowers went as far as my eyes could see!!!
When I came to in the recovery room I told the nurse at my bedside that I JUST had come from a field of flowers standing knee deep and there were colors I had never seen before. Since nobody talked about these things years ago she patted me on my left shoulder and said “that’s nice dear”. She thought I was delusional or crazy but I know 100% where I just came from.
My husband and oldest daughter were nearby when I came out of the OR and they said I looked dead and my lips were blue so I have no doubt I crossed over to heaven briefly. I’ve been a born again believer all of my life so I believe the Lord may have wanted me to know where I am going when I pass away. We don’t die…our spirit just leaves our body until the rapture when we’ll have a heavenly body.
Thanks for the encouraging report of your NDE!
My mother had heart attack and she told me that she was going home to be with her Father. She was like a child and excited to go home. I was not as excited. But my mother told everyone what she expected of us. And she left.
I guess you wouldnt be.
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I am extremely interested in NDEs and am a Christian. I was raised in a Christian home, but the concept of God's love and Jesus dying on the cross was kind of abstract to me, more like interesting ideas but not something I could really grab a hold of. Listening to near-death experiences on CZcams changed that. These videos actually led to me having what I believe was a transcendent experience with the Holy Spirit. I was backing my car into my parking space at work as one of the videos ended, and it was like the hard crusty shell around my heart finally cracked open and the spirit of God suddenly poured into me. I broke into sobs like I never had before as I marveled at God's love, His grace, His kindness and His generosity. I can't understand His infinite love, but it was like I finally understood in my limited human way at a heart level. I literally couldn't finish backing into my parking space. I put the car in park half in my space and half out because I was crying so hard I couldn't see how close I was to the wall behind me, and I rarely cry. When the tears subsided, it was as though my body had been plugged into an electrical outlet. I just laid my car seat back and experienced it for quite a while. The experience lasted all day, though the intensity of that initial inpouring lessened after about 45 minutes. It occurred to me that most people think of Heaven as a place where God lives, but think about that for a moment. God is a spirit; He doesn't live anywhere, He is everywhere at once. He created Heaven FOR US, an unimaginably blissful, incomprehensibly beautiful playground where the love is so thick it has texture, where we can be in the presence of actual infinite perfection and pure love, just because He loves us and wants us to be happy. How in the world can God exist forever, for eternity, with no beginning and no end, and not only that, but His essence is Infinite Love directed at US??? Like, how can that possibly be??? And yet it is. Since this experience, if I'm thinking of God in a thankful way or something strikes me as beautiful or I feel that truth has been revealed, often I get a tingling down the left side of my body which I truly believe is my assigned angels letting me know they are there. I also came out of it with a true belief that Jesus actually lived and died on the cross and rose again, although my personal beliefs about what that means depart from traditional Christian theology. Listening to these people talk about their experiences is very powerful. Having said all that, I was disappointed to hear in this interview the dismissal of people learning about reincarnation or past lives as one-offs and outliers. It's just not true. I respect Steve and his research and appreciate his dedication, but I have listed to dozens if not over a hundred of these experiences, and people report about reincarnation and/or knowing of other lives just as much as they talk about Jesus. This is anecdotal on my part, but anybody can listen to these videos on CZcams and find the same thing. After hearing Steve talk about this, I went to the NDERF website to look up reincarnation and was again disappointed. The website is not full of people describing their experiences, as I expected to find. It was a bunch of written experiences that largely did not connect with me. I am not saying the website is inauthentic, but seeing and hearing a person tell their story is much more moving than reading an account about it. Not trying to cast aspersions, but why would the website post writings as opposed to videos? In this day and age, it is much easier to tell your story to your computer webcam and post it than sitting and writing the whole thing down, not to mention the telling is much more powerful. It is difficult to separate the wheat from the chaff in these written stories, but when you hear someone talk about what happened to them, the truth of their experience is just so obvious. I didn't find the NDERF website as engaging as I had hoped and don't really trust it as an authoritative source compared to seeing dozens of people talking about what happened to them. And if you do explore the videos on CZcams, you'll find reincarnation is a common theme. Unfortunately, that one issue revealed the extreme prism Steve and Sean are looking through and diminished somewhat my experience of listening to this interview. I know they're Christians and so of course they are viewing it through a certain lens, but suddenly it didn't feel objective. Like I said, I'm a Christian too, but I always prefer to hear an objective opinion. Just my two cents. In any event, I found a lot of this interview interesting and appreciate Sean having Steve on his show.
Thanks for your extensive reaction to the interview and especially for your powerful experience while parking your car. Wow! Regarding reincarnation and NDEs, I'm sorry that I didn't come across objective to you. I certainly tried to be objective in my research and I'm just reporting what I found. You're right, you can probably find scores of videos and writings of people who claimed to be taught reincarnation in their experience. I've read many of them. But you can also find many instances where people's experiences contradict the experiences of others, or talk about seeing aliens, or most anything else you can imagine. Thus, with thousands of reports to choose from, someone can pull together into a book or video series 100 of them promoting any certain doctrine, making it look like that's a part of the core experience. As boring and tedious as they may be to some, the best studies of NDEs find a very small percentage of NDEs reporting reincarnation. For example, Moody didn't find any among his 150 or so experiences he reported on in his book, Life after Life. By looking at over 140 consecutive reports turned into Dr. Long's site, 98% of them didn't say anything about reincarnation. One that spoke of reincarnation had several red flags that made me question whether it was truly an authentic NDE (some may be drug induced, etc.), and the other was unclear as to whether it was promoting reincarnation or not. Yet, finding one in five reporting seeing Jesus was certainly a surprise to me, especially since that puts it in the category of other core elements such as seeing a tunnel. We're all still researching this, so thanks for your candid input and especially for reporting your own very powerful, heart-felt experience!
@@stevemiller6368 you've clearly not looked into Dr Long's extensive accounts with thousands of NDEs. I've read thousands from his site I can assure you that reincarnation is very common. What's not common (I've not read a single one so far) is the existence of hell and sin, or of Jesus talking about them. For sure Jesus existed, but so did other deities appear in the same fashion. There is too much contradiction of NDE accounts from traditional Christian theology.
@@UrsaringKrusherX Actually, it was Dr. Long's site is what I used to do that part of my study. So I looked at almost 150 consecutive cases (the first 147 submissions) submitted to his NDERF site to note how many times Jesus was reported. That's how I arrived at 17% to 20%. Regarding reincarnation, I found 2% at most reporting reincarnation. I'm saying "at most" because one was pretty vague, reporting "feelings that some people get about reincarnation." The other containing reincarnation had some red flags.
Now since Dr. Long's site has over 5,000 reports, if you search "reincarnation" you may be able to find lots of experiences, just as you may find lots of experiences reporting aliens. But since people submit anonymously and cardiologists don't interview people to weed out people on drugs, people with mental illness, etc., we expect to find a lot of anomalous experiences. So we want to be careful to not bring together a lot of low-percentage, anomalous experiences and conclude that this is a part of the core.
I am so glad that people realise mediums are NOT THE ANSWER. Once the silver cord is broken, the physical body dies. The soul continues to an everlasting existence. Did you ever talk to a deceased loved one through a medium? You were talking to a DEMON. Demons know EVERYTHING about your loved one. Demons can even imitate the voice of a loved one. Never ever approach a medium.
agreed, You should never try to talk to the dead. They have already passed beyond contact
A medium (a stranger, actually) came up to me and told me that a blonde woman was following me around, apologizing. My much older sister abused me and spread vicious lies about me my whole life (jealousy). So I see something good out of that experience with that medium (who I did not consult, but who came to me). I would NEVER have forgiven my sister for the evil damage she did to me. Now I have.
Thank you for this video. I have been researching NDEs for a few weeks now (well... when I say 'researching' I mean watching CZcams videos) in an attempt to see if there is a convincing consistency in the experiences. I have been very surprised by the consistency and it is leading me to conclude that there is indeed something to this. Something worthy of more enquiry.
I got introduced to this early when I was 20 by a lady that died on an operating table then was revived. I started reading about it sometimes after that. The consistency was amazing. Of the stories I read many had met a man of light just before returning to the body. No one went past the man of light ever wrote anything so I think that is the point of no return. It makes me think of the passage I am the light of the world, no man comes on to the father but through me. I paraphrased it but there it is.
I have been researching about NDE since my dad passed away in June last year, I watched hundreds of videos of people telling their experience, I used to be very skeptical, but now I have no doubt whatsoever about life after death. In fact there is a pattern to NDEs, and after watching so many of them, I can sense when someone may not be telling the truth.
By watching NDEs I have had a lot of answers to my questions but also I have had a lot of other questions.
But one thing I know for sure, what matters in this World is LOVE, nothing else.
Of course, I’m baptized and I know that Jesus died for me, so now what I try to do every day, is to become as much like Jesus as possible. 🤍🙏✝️
I heard a nurse talk about a patient she had, an old woman, who died. She listened for her heartbeat for two minutes like her protocol said to, and there was none. Then the woman opened her eyes, looked at her, screamed, and died. That has stayed with me.
A dear friend of 82 and her beau of the same age were in a terrible car accident involving a high speed chase by police in pursuit of someone unknown to me still. My friends were just at the wrong place at the wrong time and suffered tremendous injuries as a result. Doris (my friend) said that as she layed in her hospital bed, broken bones, hurting all over, she said an angel asked her "are you ready to come home or would you like to stay?" And she said "i want to stay". She then heard the same question asked of her beau, and he said , " i want to go". And she lived. He did not. That was 2019. She's in her upper eighties now and it's an experience she says she'll never forget. It still makes her cry.
That's quite powerful and moving...thanks for sharing!
My mother passed away on April 1, 2002…my sister, maternal grandmother & grandfather, a few cousins, a few aunties & uncles, & I were in the room with her.
She passed away from complications (pulmonary edema, etc.) of cirrhosis of the liver due to hep C (infected by a blood transfusion during a routine surgery in the 1980’s) after a liver transplant 7-8 years prior.
At the end of her physical life here, she was in a coma for 2-3 days at home with hospice care.
She could not speak when she passed away, however, she suddenly went from being completely asleep (with no movement…in a coma for 2-3 days) to sitting up, opening her eyes, smiling, tried to speak, and reaching forward & up (toward a place in the room where no one else present was) as if she were reaching out to someone, and then she passed on and collapsed back down onto the bed.
It should have been alarming to witness these sudden actions after she was in a coma for days, however, everyone present in the room reported deep feelings of love & peace during that experience and I felt the same as well.
Afterward, I went on to experience all of the stages of grief…but during that experience, there was an indescribable feeling of love and peace…something that I will never forget.
All the best.
All of the thanks, praise, and glory be to our Lord God Almighty!!!
Researchers would call what you experienced "Terminal Lucidity" (suddenly and lucidly conscious at the end, after comatose) and a "Shared Death Experience" -- the experience of a part of the passing, in your case, deep love & peace experienced by those present. How encouraging!
@@stevemiller6368 thank you very much for your kind words & insight.
What happened seemed medically impossible as her lungs were almost completely filled with fluids at that point = why she couldn’t actually speak, even though she tried to.
I have emergency medical training & experience and my auntie and 2 cousins that were present are nurses (1 a nurse practitioner) + the hospice nurse could not describe what happened from a medical standpoint. We were all in the room together then because they told us that she was very near the end. We certainly did not expect her to come out of the coma, move, etc.
At the end of cirrhosis, basically the body fills with fluid starting at the feet and then works it’s way up = why doctors check for fluid in the feet for people with certain medical conditions (heart, pulmonary, etc.).
All the best.
@@lovemorgan2716 Thanks for telling a bit more. These experiences are quite powerful! Such an extraordinary love and peace experienced at a time when people would expect to feel dread and despair sounds like a God thing to me.
As a nurse being next to people that are dying and those that we brought back I can certainly say that those experiences are real and not only that. Even us in the room with those patients have experienced some of those events manifested as they die. Sometimes its not a pretty picture sadly. Thank you Dr Sean Mcdowell and Steve Miller great interview.
What do you mean it’s not a pretty picture. What happens?
What have you and your colleagues witnessed? What kind of manifestations? Please do tell.
Why does the Trinity not appear in the Bible?peace
@@lufhopespeacefully2037 Genesis 1:26, And God[1] said, Let us[2] make man in our[3] image, after our likeness:...
Clearly there is only one God in this passage as God is written in the singular at [1]. However conversation is going on between different parts of the Godhead as shown by [2] and [3].
Now, also consider:
John 1:1-3
In the beginning[1] was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God[2]. The same was in the beginning with God.
And:
John 1:14
And the Word was made flesh[3], and dwelt among us,...
Therefore; the Word was there in the beginning [1], the Word was God [2] and the Word was made flesh [3] (i.e. Jesus Christ). Thus; Jesus is God.
@@silverbullet2008bb ,ty for replying,Trinity is an ancient worship among some ancient Egyptians who worshiped God, the author, and heretics. It follows that the Church hijacked this idea about two centuries after the death of Christ
We have to remember that we’re only hearing the beginnings of the after-life journey, i.e. less than an hour. The mystery will still remain for permanent death.
I just got finished reading the book “Imagine Heaven” by John Burke. It’s all about NDE’s. Sooo good.
Strange how this is the subject of Sean’s interview today. 🎉❤
That’s the trick! Imagine!
I have read a gajillion books on heaven and NDEs and Burke’s book (imho) is the absolute _best_ (at least so far)!
I'm older and give 'Imagine Heaven' to surviving family members a couple of months after someone dies. So far, it seems to help.
@@bethtaylor9773 it helps to imagine heaven? But we want evidence that heaven is real. Not experience when you're still alive!
@@bethtaylor9773 right so not dead. These dreams shouldn't be construed as visiting heaven. Doesn't take an atheist to know these NDE scams don't prove anything unless you already believe in souls and you're super gullible.
This was the best interview so far. I'd love to see more coverage of people from the NDE field.
I sometimes think about my grandmother when she was in the hospital. She had COPD i think that's the breathing condition that is really bad. From smoking too many years and been in the hospital many times each time, I had got her there and just happened to be there at the right time to get her help when she couldve died.
But she loved the ocean, and always wanted to go to a paradise or like hawaii and hadn't even seen the ocean in years. On the night in the hospital before she passed, which, I consider it the hospitals fault, they didnt put a mask on her that she usually had to sleep with, but she went in and out of consciousness often and talked about being in a place like a paradise every time she closed her eyes and how she wasn't afraid of dying. I think about that sometimes and hope I will see her again.
I highly value and appreciate this channel content and guests. Thank you Sean McDowel! 😊❤
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When my grandmother was passing away from cancer she started to refuse to eat, I was the last person that got her to eat when she all of sudden stopped and I asked her if she would eat please she said that if she did then the dark angel wouldn't come. She used her last words to pray for children in Haiti,I miss her very much, may rest in peace.
did you see it as positive that she wanted a “dark angel” to come?
Another great interview!
Sounds like there is much more to come in this filed of NDE's
I personally really appreciated this video... As someone who's always been interested in near death experiences... I had questions that were answered today... Thank you for doing this video
Why does the Trinity not appear in the Bible?peace
Thanks for covering this! It’s a subject I’ve been wondering about lately
This was very interesting and helped me understand somethings that l wasn't quite sure about. Thank you for sound biblical teaching! ❤👍🏽
I said what I did because I’ve listened to SO MANY that compiled: ALL experience the same! PURE LOVE….. the wonderful part of NDE shares: it first seem to matter what faith one has.
I have more to say, but I’m at work!!!! ❤
When Dr Miller brought up Paul's experience in heaven what Paul had to say about it is quite different than what people who have had NDE's have said. Paul was so humble about the experience he didn't even claim it as his own but he said, "I knew a man". He went on to say he heard inexpressable things that no one is permitted to tell. How is it we can talk about it now?
If these NDE's are not explicitly pointing a person to salvation through Jesus Christ I would be leary. Weren't we told Satan comes as an angel of light? We cannot stand on our experiences but the whole word of God. Caution is what I take when hearing about these.
I totally agree! Scripture is sufficient. God has revealed what He wants us to know about heaven and hell.
Look up Howard Storm’s NDE testimony if you haven’t. He was an atheist and became Christian after his NDE. One of my favorite NDE testimonies.
@Coronaboii88
I heard that years ago, that is one that I know of. The trouble is, most come away with a knowing that God exists but rarely do they come away speaking about the gospel of Jesus Christ. The gospel of Jesus Christ IS the power unto salvation, not a NDE. People can believe in God all day long but without Christ its mute. That's why I say I am leary.
How do you know what paul was told is the same thing that these people were told. Hmm maybe all the thousands of people are lying you think? Trying to sound cool or make some money? Or maybe it was satan trying to make sure people know God is real? Do you think these experiences are somehow steering people away from God? Or pushing them to Him? If Jesus doesnt preach the gospel to them then its not believable?@@loweeization
Yes exactly what I'm saying !! Only those who are.born again will enter The Kingdom of God.
Thank you for a sensitive way you interviewed Steve and the questions you asked Steve. Steve answered so many of the questions I had. I ordered Steve's book from Amazon.
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I was wondering when will you get on to cover this topic 👍 looking forward to this
Christians think an angel or saved relatives and friends will be greeting them on the other side immediately upon death. I had a few near death experiences and basically the first one I was 9n the other side and everything made perfect sense it was about everything being reaping and sowing and leading to the Cosmic conclusion of Jesus taking dominion. The 2nd near death experience I had was a teaching moment where God took me back to the moment after my age of accountability happened when I knowingly sinned and my spirit died and would need to be born again. I was a spoiled child and when my father would take us out to dinner I would throw a fit at the local country club and demand lobster. The rest of the family was going along with having prime rib which was on special. I threw a fit but for the first time I felt guilty about embarrassing my parents instead of just being childish. I was around 10 or 11 years old. Then God showed me when I got born again. It was the week after my 15th birthday when I surrendered to Christ at an alter call at a local Baptist church. God showed me I was laying in a grave just being dirt. He took Fuller's soap and fashioned me into being a living person again and then I was a mud man who needed to be washed off and become a human being again. It was profoundly humbling. I understood how we need communion to wash us off periodically because we get dirty just living in the world committing sins we may not even be aware of but we don't need to be born again over and over. Just like Jesus telling His disciples they will get their feet filthy just walking through the world but don't need to be completely washed again.
I've done extensive research on this topic, and I've listened to about 500 near-death experiences. Around 90% of experiences are overwhelmingly positive regardless of the persons beliefs, and that includes those of atheists. My conclusion is that is doesn't matter what a person believes. Why would it?
I have heard that people that have hell experiences were so horrified that they blocked the experience out of their minds. I also believe that deception can go on beyond death at least for a limited time (it is a spiritual arena so demons are in their element) and that is why so many unbelievers have positive experiences.
While most NDEs may indeed be positive (the 20% of negative NDEs estimated by authority Nancy Evans Bush may be low, since people are much more reluctant to share hellish NDEs than the heavenly ones) I see positive NDEs as saying much about the importance of people's beliefs. Those who don't believe in an afterlife tend to do an about face and begin believing in one. Those who believed life was about living for self are shocked to discover they should be living for others, and embarrassed about the shallow life they've been living. Those who didn't believe in God before tend to believe in God and the importance of seeking spiritual truth. These are all radical changes in belief, leading to radical life change.
From my readings of hundreds, probably thousands of NDEs, I don't see, as a part of the core experience, people being told on the other side that what they believe doesn't matter. I do, however, see some concluding that since their NDE was good, that a good afterlife is assured for everyone, although that's not specifically what they were told on the other side. Also, they don't seem to have taken into consideration those who experience negative NDEs.
Biblically, the kindness of God leads us to repentance (Romans 2), and what I see is an encounter with a loving God. Rather than concluding that I can live however I please and God doesn't care about my sin, I think experiencers would do well to seek God. In Sabom's study, he found people, over time, after their NDEs, praying more, increasing church attendance, and adopting more conservative Christian beliefs, while a small minority chose other paths. Immediately after their experiences, they may draw many grandiose conclusions, which may shift if they truly seek over time. For example, let's say a person grew up in a very condemning, hell-fire-and brimstone church. They think of God as being a great bully in the sky, looking for opportunities to squish them. Then they have an NDE and meet the most loving Being they've ever encountered. Obviously, this person might conclude, "Churches have got it all wrong!"
God’s will is to bring all people to Him, so maybe He delivers different experiences to different people depending on what they require to bring them to faith. An atheist who is still open to receiving God’s love may be shown a glimpse of the vestibule of heaven in order to encourage them to seek God. He gives us free will to choose Him. They may be sent back to earth to complete their faith walk, but not all take advantage of the second chance. Just because they were given a taste of heaven does not mean they will be sent there again when they experience their final death.
@@taxicab53 My sentiments exactly. Very well put.
@@stevemiller6368I agree that near death experiences are real. However I do believe that NDEs are exactly that- just experiences. They came back, they didn't die. So if an atheist experiences a great Presence of Love, it doesn't mean that he's gonna get into heaven. I also agree with what you said about the demons possibly being able to deceive a person during transition from life to death to make them think they're ok. The Bible says test every spirit but unsaved persons cannot. I am beginning to think, however, could it be that our prayers for our unsaved relatives can extend into that transitional time between life and death? I won't make a doctrine of this but I was wondering if that's how the Catholics came up with purgatory? But my personal statement on the matter of my eternal soul is that I AM GOING TO MAKE MY CALLING AND ELECTION SURE BEFORE I leave this place. Ain't taking no chances. But I do wonder at some of these NDEs who find themselves in hell and call out to Jesus or (or not) and He comes in and swoops them out. I just heard of an African Iman who died ended up in hell and got rescued by Jesus. When he came back to life he found that his mom had gone to yo some Christians to pray for his recovery from illness. While she was gone that's when he died, went to hell, got rescued by Jesus and came back to life. That's why I said perhaps prayer has an effect on a transitioner?
I watched a lot of NDE experiences on youtube and I'm glad this interview and Dr. Steve Millers work on this subject exists. Similarily to spiritual warfare and the demonic, the experiences of people going to heaven or hell are just something to be taken seriously and learn from.
Loved this talk with Steve! Will definitely look him up. Thank you for this video Sean.
I had a near death experience of hell and heaven before I became a Bible believing born again Christian.
Interesting. Were you a Christian when you had an NDE?
@@AidanAidanAAA No I was not. I knew some things about the Bible but I wasn't a Christian or never professed to be one at the time I had my NDE. I was Buddhist though when I had the NDE at age 17
Thanks for sharing this. That would confirm research by Sabom and Sartori on NDEs and Bush and Rommer regarding distressing NDEs. People in their studies gravitated toward repenting of their sins, getting serious about God, and getting more serious about attending church, reading their Bibles and praying.
Sean, please ask this question of Dr. Miller. Lots of NDE accounts seem to result in someone who was a Muslim or Buddhist becoming a Christian, but I've never heard of one where a Christian converted to another faith tradition as a result of their NDE. That's my casual observation, but can you ask him if his research supports that conclusion?
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@@typarmelee1 There are many atheists who return utterly convinced in God, and there are quite a number of Christians who return with their faith radically changed - to the extent that they leave their denomination or church because it simply cannot align to the all-loving un-judging acceptance on the other side. Many end up deconstructing their Christian faith and end up with a much simplified "GOD IS REAL; HE IS LOVE" faith. Interestingly, after reading and listening to hundreds of NDE's I can recall almost none where the person returned on a mission to "save the lost and create more Christians" and many where the person realizes that the shape and flavour of their faith means almost nothing. Their kindness to others means much MUCH more.
@@scottgarriott3884 Thank for that feedback. It really is an interesting topic. I haven’t read or known about this subject at all. I would like read the two books the guest has written and see where this all leads.
@@scottgarriott3884I have watched hundreds of NDEs myself as well, and I agree a 100% with everything you say, I’m a Christian Evangelical, however, I now know that what matters is love, this is the message everyone who’s been on the other side brings back, it’s all about love.
@@typarmelee1 There are a lot of books out there. And as with the videos, it's possible to find anything you're looking for whether true, untrue or biased this way or that. I have learned to disregard the NDE accounts that are not verifiable, recognize those that are more believable, and then observe the larger patterns that emerge rather than getting caught up in the details. I believe many of the "visuals" are likely partially generated by or customized to the viewer such that the experience and message works for them and the details cannot be taken as literal descriptions that ARE or ARE NOT the truth.
This video was definitely biased to find the things that point to Christianity being true. Another video could easily be made with NDE evidence pointing away from the traditional Christian faith. Aggregate observations are important.
My husband has received a miracle from brain cancer and since then we have watched many CZcams inspiring nde testimonies from Randy Kay’s channel and along with this interview I am confident that our loving creator is letting us know how vast His love is for us and all mankind, and our job is to embrace His love and pray His love will consume all Our Fathers children. Your kingdom come, Your will be done on earth as it is in heaven!
Hi, Sean. This was a really interesting episode on near death experiences. By the way, people with Nuro, diverse brains often have some of those experiences. Nuro, diverse, diverse, meaning, mentally ill may be such as borderline personality disorder, which I have or bipolar disorder, which one of my friends has. Anyway, There have been times when I have felt that a rush of some thing like chinchilla fur. Somethings so fluffy and soft and sweet, touching me and petting on me and I can feel love coming from the fur that’s touching me. The furry isn’t real exactly. But it’s extremely vivid to the point where I am thinking if I were doing an EEG, that area of my brain would light up. My synesthesia, or my Nuro diversity is one way in which God is communicated that to me. He communicates love to me in many ways but that’s one of them. The sensation of meltingly, soft, furry hands coming down, as if from above to surround me to pat and caress my face and forehead, and my hands and the rush is so great and intense, but not only is it great and intense, but I can feel love coming directly from that for as if I had a mind. Siri usually pronounces are usually doesn’t take me down right. When I say the word for FUR, she’s always spelling it FOR. It’s FURI mean. Rheumatoid arthritis has taken my hands and I’m totally blind so I am dictating messages and I can’t spend much time trying to figure out how to fix series mistakes. I just wanted to let you know that synesthesia, the mixing of more than one sense so for instance, you might see colour and you might hear colour when you hear music. I don’t have colour but I have tactile hearing or maybe just sometimes certain words feel like feathers or velvet or plastic. But sometimes I get these fluffy furry rashes that communicate love as if from the fur. I’m just listening to your part where you’re talking about. Buildings emanating love. I understand that. I’ve felt that. I have a friend with schizophrenia, who is a born-again Christian and I bet she would say the same thing. That God communicates with us even through our disabilities, even including mental illness, or a strange set of neural instructions in my brain that don’t operate in yours. I just wanted to say I’ve experienced it, and I totally get it. But I’ve never had a near death experience. I’m just saying, I have experienced that idea of love emanating from something that it normally does not.
I said, furry rushes, not furry rashes.
@thearamsay, those are very interesting sense experiences you have had. God is above what we feel or hear or see though, and he sent his Son Jesus to die in our place so we don't have to go to hell because God won't let sinners into Heaven. Please put your trust in Jesus to save you.
This is amazing to hear, 1 of my kids has sensory processing disorder but is very comforted by a certain type of fluffiness she listens to worship music and rubs the fluffy blanket on her face and it is her most peaceful place . Maybe she is experiencing God's love through her senses. Thank you for sharing! There are so many things we don't understand about God and how He works. God bless and I hope there is someone who can read this out to you 😊
@@carau7237 you’re welcome. It was my pleasure to share this, hoping there might be somebody out there that’s like me. my particular sensory cross talk works something like this: emotion/tactile, or hearing/tactile. Last time I heard, I believe there were over 50 different kinds of synesthesia.
@@carau7237 actually, voice over read this out to me. There are some things I can do with the phone. How old is your daughter? My kids I think we’re ashamed of my Neurodiversity and my blindness. What did I say that for? It has nothing to do with anything really. but I will say that certain kinds of music can sometimes bring the fluffy hands. Sometimes I feel them poised over my face as if about to touch but not quite touching. It’s extremely stimulating and teasing. I can feel that tingly softness coming near me, but it doesn’t quite touch me. You can imagine what that would be like. Then, just when I think they’ll be no furry hands for me. Just when I think that, those hands start petting the tar out of me. If there’s anything more loving than that, I can’t imagine watt. Like I said, the fur itself plays for keeps. This for is so soft that I don’t have words to describe it. It’s all consuming love. it’s what all consuming love would feel like if such love had a physical body. The very softest and fluffiest for that you could ever touch. Meltingly soft. Emanating love.
“It is APPOINTED unto man to die once”. That doesn’t mean that you can’t turn up early before your appointment and be turned away, I just don’t think you can miss your appointment.
That’s a good point. People use that verse sometimes to say that NDEs can’t be real but these people didn’t fully die there 1 death. And it’s biblical since John in revelation was in the Spirt and saw heaven and came back
My husband had a near death experience. He had crashed on his mountain bike. He flew headfirst over his handlebars and hit head first into a rock (wasn’t wearing a helmet). He said he woke up in utter darkness. He could see in the distance two glowing floating angels drifting towards him. Nothing was said they just touched him and he woke up back on the side of the mountain where he crashed. He was laying in a ditch and his friends found him. In the crash he snapped his neck and was paralyzed for a few minutes unable to move his legs or arms. After a few minutes he started getting sensation and movement. He was able to stand up and walk off the mountain. The orthopedic neurosurgeon told him in the 25 years of him being a doctor he’s never seen anyone have an accident as my husband described live or able to walk again. He should have been paralyzed or dead. When he was “on the other side” the angels healed him. To this day he has a hard time talking about it. I’m wondering if there’s any experts or resources that can help him process. He’s a Christian.
Thanks so much for sharing your husband's dramatic experience. Although he reported that the angels didn't say anything, was it quite evident to your husband during the vision that they were there to heal him, or did he just assume that after his recovery? Often, people with such visions report communication mind-to-mind on the other side or "just knowing" why something is happening. Although people are extremely hesitant to share such experiences, I'd encourage you to share it with your pastoral staff and close friends and family. Some will get uncomfortable and change the subject, because I think the popularity of naturalism in the 1900s made us all uncomfortable with such visions...even ministers. But I think you'll be surprised how many have had similar experiences. In the conclusion of my recent book I documented surveys showing that 54% of Americans report having been "protected by a guardian angel." 43 % of American adults "report unusual and inexplicable spiritual experiences" from "out of body travel to dreams and visions in which the individual meets God." So let him know that he's far from alone. A minister in my former church told me of meeting angels on the other side when he was comatose, close to death from a sepsis condition. If my book may help and you don't have the money, I can send you a free .pdf. Reply to this and I'll give you my email for it. It's called Is Christianity Compatible with Deathbed and Near-Death Experiences, by J. Steve Miller. You can also find it on Amazon.
Thank you for your response. I will purchase your book. The reason we believe the angels healed him, even though they didn’t say anything, was based off of what the orthopedic neurosurgeon said. Based on his description of what happened in his accident there’s no way he should have been alive or able to walk. He should have fractured his neck and severed his spinal cord. He woke up and was paralyzed for a few minutes and regained feeling and was able to walk off the mountain. He only had a contusion on his spinal cord which physically and medically is impossible. He wasn’t wearing a helmet. Thank you for your response we will reach out to our pastoral staff as well.
@@gillishm1 Thanks for explaining further, and I'm glad you'll share this with your staff. People need to know how widespread these experiences are, not matter what they make of them. I hope my book helps!
I love the way that Dr. Miller says "yes!". Really fascinating and humbling talks. Great job you two!
This is fascinating. Some people are terrified of death and others embrace it.
Very true, you are either in one camp or the other. The people that embrace it are those who are secure in Christ. I am young but I am no longer worried about dying, I used to be, not anymore. I do want to like because of my young children and my husband. I know they would be very sad. But other than that not afraid of it at all
This is long, and may not be interesting to you. It is very important to me. If you're not interested please just keep scrolling. I've had two of these experiences.
#1. I had a heart attack. At one point, in the ambulance, I felt like I was falling asleep. Suddenly nothing hurt anymore and it felt like I was floating away. Such a calm peaceful feeling. I heard the emt off in the distance telling me to come back, not to leave him, then his voice got very loud like he was screaming at me. Minutes later, inside the ER, a nurse asked me if there was anything I wanted my family to know. I said "yes, tell them everything will be alright.". The nurse looked confused and repeated what I'd said and asked if I was sure. I nodded. The next thing I knew I was waking up after surgery and my family was there waiting for me. They said they had no doubt when the nurse gave them my message. I'd had a widow maker with a 95% blockage to my heart. Today no sign of heart disease. I don't know where I was going as I was floating away but I do know that at that point it was my decision whether to stay or go.
#2. During spine surgery I contracted staph and yeast. They sent me home with those infections inside my spine without knowing. About a week later I was completely out of it, lying on my stomach on the sofa, talking to people who weren't there. I knew some of them. They were asking me to stop fighting it and let go. I kept telling them "no". 18 days after surgery was my follow up. My daughter came to take me there. We got there and I walked in. I told a nurse that I couldn't sit in the waiting room. She looked at me and took me right back to an exam room. The Dr came in right away and before she could get her first question out, I collapsed. When I woke up I was in a bed and they had done surgery again to clean out the infection. The Dr said I should have died. I told him that I'd already argued that with several people. He asked who because nobody had been allowed in my room. I told him "no, I mean at home, for at least the last three days". He knew I was home alone with my daughter checking on me. Boy oh boy did he have questions for me. Yes I knew some of them but not all. My mom (who passed 3 years earlier) was there pushing me back to my family saying that I am stronger than this and that she's with me all the time. She can wait for me to come at the right time.
I agree there are near death and death bed experiences and know there's a big difference. The body dies, but the soul is made of energy and energy never dies. God Bless
THANK YOU!!! I keep saying Paul is describing a near death experience in the language of someone from his era way before Raymond Moody made it more understandable.
While waiting to move our dad from the hospital to a hospice house, he told my brother and I that you know you're not gone very long when you fly to the mountains. I asked him about it. He told me he flew to the mountains with Batman ( the Batman part bothered me).
When my friend's mother, her remaining parent, died, I asked the Lord to show my friend, also an only child, that He loves her. When she visited her mom's husband a few days later, she saw falling stars all around her when she got to a spot in the room. Her mom's husband said that's the spot where her mom stood when she died.
Absolutely. I’m actually writing a book on this: The Validity of NDEs and their connection to Christianity.
Glad this is getting much more attention, this is an absolute game changer for the advancement of the faith. NDEs are a smoking gun to God, the afterlife, and soul.
Fantastic
I have read hundreds and hundreds of NDEs. And yes, I agree, probably 20% do see a loving being they attribute to “Jesus.”
And Jesus tells the person they most go back to earth. He often says, take back this *MOST IMPORTANT* message to everyone: “love one another as I have loved you!”
NEVER… in all my hundreds of readings did Jesus say: “And remind everyone the ONLY way they can make it to heaven is to make me your Lord and Savior, and repent your sins to me”
Why is that???? Isn’t that THE most important thing (according to Christianity??)
Maybe the Bible has it wrong?? Maybe the interpretation is wrong??
@@fitzgreg1 2 things. The first, absence of information is not confirmation that the information isn't valid. That'd be an argument from silence. So it's not entirely proper to say that "God never says this so it must be okay or not okay" it only shows that that wasn't the focus of the conversation in their specific context. And two, it's a very biblical ideal that those who love the father and their neighbor have fulfilled the law of God and met his commandments. Perhaps loving to the degree that God loves becomes an acceptable form of faith and repentance to God, that's often what ive witnessed. Afterall, how can someone fully love God yet habitually dabble in sin or do their neighbor wrong? That's why the disciple John and Paul pointed toward the love of God so greatly. Love is the single greatest attribute that reflects God and humans should embrace, by embracing love, everything else takes care of it's self. Without love, even if someone had all other great attributes and faith it would all mean nothing anyway - it all centers on love (1 Cor 13:1-3).
Don't apologize, Steve, for forgetting the gist of Sean's questions. Sean doesn't ask in one sentence..he asks in 3 paragraphs! 😊
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I take full responsibility! Sean was very clear in his question, but as got into my response, I lost track. My bad. But I might as well admit it and move on!
Great discussion guys. Thanks for addressing Hebrews 9:27 as well.
What a great job Mr Miller did in explaining the feelings people had on the other side, and that it wasn’t actually in Heaven, but it was sort of in the entry, of the other side. And what a wonderful experience and place to look forward too for those who believe and trust in our Lord Jesus Christ.
God is not just saving everyone - He already HAS saved everyone in Jesus Christ. "Behold the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world." This salvation just has to be worked out individually in the ages to come. "God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself."
I wish you were right...
The Bible does reference people going to the other side indirectly. All the resurrected people in Jesus day had to spend time somewhere and would have had their own experiences even if their experiences didn’t make it into scripture. This research is interesting and increases my faith.
Glad it increases your faith...it does mine as well!
Great interview. Nice tone, well-paced. I'd be curious what Dr. Miller says about Emanuel Swedenborg's writings. Thank you.
I've not read his original writings, so I have only a very general understanding of him. He claims to have had many visions, which is typically a red flag for me, since some people who hear regularly, audibly and visually from God sometimes are influenced by some mental illness. They don't seem to be NDEs, since he wasn't at a point of death. Since he claims to be giving new revelation, I'd evaluate him in the same way that the Bible evaluates prophetic claims, asking 1) did he give specific prophecies that came true 100% of the time to validate his claims? 2) Did any of his doctrine contradict anything already revealed by God in the past through Scripture? I'm extremely skeptical about anyone claiming to give new revelation about doctrines. To me, the best studies of NDEs/DBEs find people experiencing things that underscore what has already been taught in the Scriptures rather than introducing new doctrine.
@@stevemiller6368 Well, so far as traditional Catholicism is concerned, Luther was a heretic, so there is always room for disagreement! (And, in fact, one can make the argument that Protestantism is the Shasta Sideshow of Christianity.) I personally found Swedenborg to be very helpful, in many respects. He definitely saw Jesus Christ as Lord, and saw Heaven and man as being made in the image of God. There are some great videos on Swedenborg at the CZcams channel, Off the Left Eye. The one called, "Who Was Swedenborg" is a great introduction. I so much appreciated your scholarship that I sent this CZcams link to the Swedenborg Foundation. I thought they should know about your work.
@@stevemiller6368 For you, I would recommend the New Jerusalem and it's Heavenly Doctrine.
@@brucehanify3892 Obviously, you're much more familiar with Swedenborg than me, so I defer to your understanding. Thanks for bringing Swendenborg's life and scholarship to bear on this issue. My sincere hope is that theologians of many stripes will begin taking NDEs and DBEs more seriously, so that some can, for example, compare Swedenborg's reflections and experience to the best NDE/DBE research. Perhaps you could start the discussion by writing an article on this...thanks for sharing!
I really enjoyed this. Thank you both.
Jesus said : I am the light of the world.
Amen. Gods kindness and love leads us to repentance 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻✝️✝️✝️🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
I'm a born again follower of the one true Way! I have a unique experience that weaved through my life. My dad was a true Christian & Reverend. Mom was a wonderful Christian. I wanted to believe but I just couldn't pull together enough faith. I drowned & was revived at 12. At that time I had an nde. I saw an object fly through the air & almost hit me without human hands, when I asked a former witch to tell me about the occult. When I was a teen, my sister & I were within a second of a head-on collision at 40 mph. We screamed & threw our hands in front of us, bracing to die. Instead, the car who was about to hit us didn't! A witness told my sister the other car was lifted over us. I realize other people are skeptical, but NOT ME! Our God IS REAL! He has power over every aspect of Heaven & earth! I don't think it. I KNOW IT! GOD IS A LOVING, WONDERFUL CREATOR! I was so very blessed, but I asked God to help me have faith when I was a child. He answered me completely. Praise His Holy, Holy Name! He LIVES!!! Christ will soon return, just as He said!!!
Thanks for your enthusiastic testimony!
Looking forward to this
I love this! Legit NDEs are absolutely God’s love reaching us through Christ.
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Okay Dwight
A topic very near to my heart as I have deconstructed my faith over many years hoping to reconstruct it based on truth without bias. I appreciate Dr Miller's descriptions and precise language.
It is very clear that both you and Dr Miller are seeing NDEs and death-bed experiences through a very Christian lens. While not wrong, it certainly introduces its own bias. This discussion was very interesting, yet its style - a list of reasons why NDEs might substantiate an already held Christian faith rather than an examination of "what do the experiences tell us?" caters only to those having faith issues and certainly don't avoid bias. An examination on the latter basis might be more generally helpful and would help avoid bias.
I would maintain that a general review of the many hundreds of NDE accounts I have come across (some I could not really consider seriously because of lack of genuinely convincing evidence) definitely do NOT strengthen my traditional Christian faith (though I believe Jesus was and is real and that a very personal loving God exists). Much of my gradually forming hypothesis is based on the aggregate of all the most convincing NDE accounts. A small number of accounts mention Jesus (I would agree on about 20%) but some that do sound very much like the person is putting a name to a being they encountered, whether right or wrong. In fact I recall one where the person exclaimed to the shining being, "Hey I know who you are!!" and the being simply laughed and replied, "Oh, you do, do you?" It seems to me (on aggregate) that the identity of the being isn't nearly as important as the nature of the communication between them. Why would this be so if NDEs fit neatly into Christianity?
You have used these accounts to dismiss world views other than your own - many, rightly so. However I notice you quickly inserted a validation of the idea of sin and judgement (without any direct evidence or discussion in fact) but I have come across extraordinarily few accounts that support this! In fact I have come across many, many more accounts from experiencers who have returned saying they were surprised to find that there was ABSOLUTELY NO judgement or even any sense of judgement, and that if there were a sense of judgement, it came from themselves entirely as they witnessed their life-review. While a strong sense of right and wrong is encountered (mostly in the form of kindness or unkindness and its ongoing effects) I have heard quite a number of Christians who have returned only to abandon their original faith-form or church entirely because they simply could not align their overwhelming experience of total acceptance with the sin-based judgemental "salvation" framework the church is built upon. A number of Christian experiencers have emphatically derided the idea of hell itself (at least as an infinite destination) after their experience. In fact many atheists have returned stunned to have met other former atheists on the other side and utterly convinced there is a loving, personal God, but also surprised that he showed absolutely NO interest in judging them! Additionally, I have yet to come across any believable accounts where the person returns with a powerful sense of "I need to lead people to Christ". THIS alone is a deafening selence that speaks volumes. The very few who do seem to have long, extraordinarily detailed accounts backed up with reams of scripture verses and have books to sell as they go from church to church (and none offer evidence that confirms their actual medical death and confirmation of unknowable knowledge while dead.) Again - this is a big aggregate observation and a very important one!
Whether or not it was Jesus who was encountered is intererstingly not as telling to me as the nature of the communication itself or the general "life-mission" the returned person has. This topic on the actual communication regarding "the meaning of life" or life-mission is a topic that you have not really touched on. If the Jesus we know from the Bible WAS encountered, why are there so extraordinarily few experiencers returning with a powerful mission to "Save the sinners" and so overwhelmingly many who simply return wanting to be more selfless and kind and who make very clear that THIS IS EVERYTHING?
If you are going to examine the aggregate - THIS is a very big-picture issue that is very very noticeable in broad NDE studies.
Thanks for your extensive reaction. I think that many of your criticisms are dealt with quite extensively in my book. In an interview I can give only brief summaries that I can may take a chapter to address in a book. For example, you speak of the value of asking more generally, "What do these experiences tell us?" In chapter two I list about 47 such themes and then take a chapter to compare these to various worldviews. I'm not just trying to sell books, so I'll send you a free .pdf if you're interested in pursuing it more. Regarding judgment, I do think that typically, in a life review, people see their own good and bad deeds for what they are, so that there's no need for God to additionally yell at them about it. So when some say "God didn't judge me" I don't think that they're typically saying that their lives were totally acceptible to God and He doesn't care about their sin. They're just saying that He was nice about it all, much like Jesus being a friend of sinners and the Bible stating clearly that God loves sinners. Again, I'm just giving brief responses to big questions. Thanks again for your candid response!
@@stevemiller6368 and thank you for your candid and generous respons Dr. Miller. I have no doubt that your books have addressed things much more fully. But I am still searching and not finding NDE experiencers (more than I can count on a hand anyway) who return with a burning desire to save more people from hell... Just wanting to be more selfless and loving.
I enjoyed the discussion!
Thanks again!
@@scottgarriott3884 I always enjoy and learn from a candid and polite discussion!
Read Gary Habermas and Hugh Ross.
@@student99bg I occasionally enjoy listening to Habermas (not sure I know of Ross), but they have the same bias. Everything seems to be cherry-picked in order to prop up Christianity as far as I can tell. Deeply inconvenient things are swept aside and not talked about.
I had a out of body experience, during a night, I talk about it on my channel. In the end I was told I have to come back and witness. I believe it was a vision.
Very interesting conversation! Thanks!
I was a fundamental Christian for 20 years, atheist for the last 10 years and NDEs have really opened my mind to this possibility due to the power of the first-hand testimony of their experience. I cant say I agree (or care much) for how NDEs support any particular world view including Christianity because one thing Im sure of - the Truth is much bigger and higher than we could ever understand. I choose to be open and let God out of the box.
The truth isn't hard to understand at all.
You might be interested in:
EVIDENCE FOR FAITH/DECIDING THE GOD QUESTION, ed. by John Warwick Montgomery.
@MarisaHoare Of course. G.K.Chesterton said, "When a man stops believing in God, he doesn't believe nothing. He believes anything."
Yes, I'm a Christian. But also think the Bible doesn't tell us absolutely everything. It's full of wisdom, but God continues to speak in other ways. I love Howard Storm's testimony which is Christian but also quite broad in other ways
I have read hundreds and hundreds of NDEs. And yes, I agree, probably 20% do see a loving being they attribute to “Jesus.”
And Jesus tells the person they most go back to earth. He often says, take back this *MOST IMPORTANT* message to everyone: “love one another as I have loved you!”
NEVER… in all my hundreds of readings did Jesus say: “And remind everyone the ONLY way they can make it to heaven is to make me your Lord and Savior, and repent your sins to me”
Why is that???? Isn’t that THE most important thing (according to Christianity??)
Maybe the Bible has it wrong?? Maybe the interpretation is wrong??
Thank you. So good.
Than you both!@!❤
Our Father is Just, and knows how to comfort His children regardless of their beliefs or no beliefs. I believe the most important job we all have here on earth is to exercise pure love, meaning circumstances can not change a person with unconditional love. So, let us play the game the right way: judgenot, fear not, be compassionate, and put God first. The rest will be taken care of.
God bless❤❤❤🙏🙏🙏
As a person with a nde background I confirm everything is right Steve Miller is talking about!
God bless him!
Sign of the times.... Jesus is showing up in peoples live in a big way now. Not just NDEs. He did for me and im seeing it happening to many. Mine was an astral travel during my dark night of the soul, only during the day.
I’ve listened to hundreds of NDEs and the vast majority come back not more religious and thinking there is only one way to God I.e. Jesus but more spiritual and open.
I've probably read and heard thousands and I agree with you. I've never read about one in which the person came back and said Christianity is the only way. I've read about people of all religions (and no religion) who had beautiful NDE's and felt God's love.
@@mygirldarby 🩷🌻🩷
Exactly!!
Read HUNDREDS of NDEs. Why has Jesus NEVER once said: “when you go back, remind EVERYONE I am the only way to be saved!”
Have read NUMEROUS times Jesus giving a message, and it is ALWAYS “remember, love one another!”
@@fitzgreg1 exactly.
Loving these talks! ♥️
Thank you for asking some of the harder questions.
I have always wondered about NDE’s. I would say part of me has always been sceptical, possibly because many you watch on you tube are ‘a bit out there’ and often extremely different to each other and lacking commonalities. The other side of me considers the vast number of people who claim to have the experiences that do have commonality, such as bright light, tunnel, overwhelming feeling of peace and love etc. I cannot escape the fact that not all these people are making it up. There surely, has to be something to it. I did consider the possibility of them being demonic, Angel of light, type thing and I would agree with Steve that some very well may be. Regardless, it is an interesting topic. Thank you very much for your insight.
There IS also the possibility that God allows us to remember these experiences so we can tell others. For belief reasons and reassuring reasons I’m guessing. They’re REAL though. I’ve seen this happen.
Good insight on the NDEs from CZcams, which surely prioritizes sending us the most interesting NDEs rather than the most common ones. Thus, since the great bulk of NDEs conform to the core elements, these are not the most interesting that people will "like." So CZcams is likely feeding people anomalous experiences.