Copper spiral - Repoussé and chasing
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- čas přidán 2. 03. 2018
- Repoussé is a metalworking technique which dates from Antiquity. We work on the reverse of the metal to form a raised design on the front. The metal is placed in a pan with melted pitch and after its cold it's ready to work with. The process takes a lot of time due to the repetition of a number of time-consuming stages. The last stage is reversing the metal and refining the design on the front of the work by sinking the metal, which is called chasing.
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This just opened my eyes to the cost and time for hand made items.
Thank you for your comment sir, I appreciate it!
I wish someday all people to realize the value of 'handmade' as you did sir!
All the best
Jimmy
I learnt something new today. :)
Thank you!!
All the best
Jimmy
Arh thats lovely.
Thank you very much, I'm glad that you like it!
All the best
Jimmy
Thank you for sharing your talent I really enjoy watching a workpiece progress from nothing into something beautiful.
Thank you so much for your comment! It's a pleasure for me, to sharing my work with all of you. Hoping perhaps, that the few things that I know help others.
All the best
Jimmy
Beautiful! You make it look so easy.
Thanks for your comment, Phillip! It is easy to make something like this, believe me. You need only some basic tools and practice. Thanks again, my friend!
Warm regards from Greece
Dimitris (AKA Jimmy)
This is my kind of video! Beautiful work, clear instructions without talking (captions very good) and quick, sped up work. This makes the instruction get to it. I am a subscriber for sure!
Thank you very much for your comment sir, I really appreciate it! Glad to know that the instructions as well as the footage are on a good level.
Regards from Greece
Jimmy
Beautiful work!
Thank you very much, I appreciate your comment!
All the best
Jimmy
Beautiful piece it was a delight to watch your workmen's hand create this work of art.
Thank you for your comment madam, I appreciate it!
All the best
Jimmy
Beautiful work, I adore Repousse'....my favorite technique. Your jewelry is so lovely, it reminds me of vintage Taxco silver, thanks for sharing!
Thank you very much for the comment! I'm very happy that you like my work! Glad to share as always.
Regards from Greece
Jimmy
Those repoussé jewels are beautiful, this requires a good artistic sense, also you seem like a patient and determined person...
I really like what you do looking for more...
Cheers, Pierre
I used to be a silversmith a long time ago. Many things were changed in my life from that time (very long conversation), but the only that didn't changed is my patience. I may rather say, that probably my patience is growing over the years! So, I hope to be able to make more things and videos...
Thanks again my friend, I really appreciate your support!!
Best wishes and regards to the other two "monkeys", it makes me really happy when I see you all together sharing things!!
Jimmy
Greetings from Brazil... Thanks for your videos!
Thank you very much, I really appreciate your comment!
Regards from Greece
Jimmy
Beautiful work
Thank you very much! I appreciate that you like my work!
Regards from Greece
Jimmy
Jimmy... Gosto muito dos seus vídeos. Você é um artista profissional. Muito obrigado pelos belos trabalhos!
Muito obrigado por seu comentário, senhor! Eu agradeço!
Cordiais saudações
Jimmy
Beautiful.
Thank you very much!!
All the best
Jimmy
Fabulous !
Thank you very much, I appreciate that you like it!
All the best
Jimmy
Thanks for sharing
Glad to share, as always! Thanks for the comment sir!
Regards from Greece
Jimmy
Good work!
Thank you very much!
All the best
Jimmy
Wow Jimmy your very talented buddy. Stunning workmanship I'll have to keep you in mind when I make a machinist toolbox. Love the brass work. 👍👍👍👍
Hi Mark,
Thank you, my friend! I don't consider myself an expert; but I do consider that I'm learning more each time I make something. Anyway, I'll be glad to help you with your machinist box.
Cheers
Jimmy
Thanks, nice work
Many thanks!!
Thanx for sharing
I'm always glad when sharing what I do with others! Thanks for the comment, I appreciate it!
All the best
Jimmy
Excelente trabajo!!.
Muchas gracias señor!!
Todo lo mejor
Jimmy
Thanks for taking the time to make this clip. Very helpful and just what I was looking for. If I may make a suggestion.... rebate your hinges
Thank you for the comment and for the tip about the hinges, I appreciate it!
All the best
Jimmy
Very cool. I'd like to try this one day.
It's not difficult to do, you need only to forge a set of punches to start. Thank you very much for the comment, I really appreciate it!
All the best
Jimmy
Where would you recommend getting pitch?
Hi again,
I apologize for the delayed answer. You can buy readymade pitch from jewelry supply shops like Rio Grande and Otto Frei in US
www.riogrande.com/category/tools-and-equipment/metal-forming/pitch-and-pitch-bowls?c=4c972f4b-ab83-4645-aa8f-a7b80157fb4a&pageNum=1
www.ottofrei.com/search?keywords=pitch
Betts and CousinsUK in UK
www.bettsmetalsales.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=pitch
www.cousinsuk.com/product/pitch
on Amazon www.amazon.com/s?k=German+Red+Pitch&ref=nb_sb_noss
and probably on ebay.
In general pitch for repousse is expensive, so many of us make our own pitch. Here is a simple guide for making it: www.repoussetools.com/what_is_pitch.htm
And this is my recipe: 300gr asphalt tar, 210gr colophony (aka rosin or pine resin), 250gr plaster of Paris (fine grained gypsum) and 3 tablespoons of olive oil.
To make the desired amount of tar, simply add the materials proportionally.
The process is as follows: first melt well the asphalt with the colophony (stirring the mixture constantly), then add slowly the gypsum so as not to cool the mixture and keep constant stirring. Now when the mixture becomes homogeneous, add the oil and stir again until not seeing the oil in the surface of the mixture.
A few tips:
Keep medium temperature so as not to burn out the ingredients-stirring is essential to this.
Instead of olive oil you can use beeswax or fine engine oil SAE 10W.
If you want to have soft pitch add oil, for hard pitch add gypsum.
I hope that these will help you.
All the best
Jimmy
nice brother👍
Thank you very much!
All the best
Jimmy
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Hi , I love the work !!!!’ Thank you for Sheringbit .... the “orca “ torch y see you are using , do you use it for everything
Are they good big soldering like bracelet ?
Hi,
Thank you for asking! Yes, you can use the Orca torch for bracelets and for bigger things as well, like silverware, brassware ect. Thanks again!
Regards from Greece
Jimmy
Thank you for this video. Beautiful work. May I ask what was that last bottle you used on the copper piece? Looked gold colored?
Thank you for your comment, I really appreciate it! It's a common polishing agent for metals, the brand is Brasso. I'm using it all the time in almost every metal, except for alloyed steels and precious metals.
Cheers
Jimmy
Well done! Did you anneal the copper after working the back? Thank you for the video.
Thank you very much, glad that you like it!! Yes to be easy to work on the front, I anneal the piece after finishing the back side.
Regards
Jimmy
Όπως πάντα, πάρα πολύ καλή δουλειά! Ηθελα να σε ρωτήσω το υλικό για μαύρισμα και καθάρισμα χαλκού πώς λέγεται και από που το παιρνεις?
Ευχαριστώ πολύ για το σχόλιο! Το χημικό είναι οξείδωση ορείχαλκου και μπορείς να το βρεις σε όλα τα καταστήματα που έχουν εργαλεία και υλικά αργυροχρυσοχοΐας (οδός Θησέως στο Σύνταγμα). Το άλλο είναι κοινό καθαριστικό μετάλλων και μπορείς να το βρεις σε όλα τα super markets. Υπάρχουν και πιο εξειδικευμένες αλοιφές για καθαρισμό η γυάλισμα κατά πολύ ακριβότερες, θα τις βρεις σε καταστήματα στην Αθήνα (οδός Σπύρου Πάτση)
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Δημήτρης
Ευχαριστώ πάρα πολύ Δημήτρη! Έχω βρει πολλά πράγματα μέσω του ίντερνετ αλλά ήθελα να βρω κάτι εδώ στην Αθήνα, για να μπορέσω να το πάρω γρήγορα χωρίς να περιμένω πολύ, οι πληροφορίες σου ήταν πολύ χρήσιμες! Και πάλι ευχαριστώ!
Με εκτίμηση Ρωμανός.
Να είσαι καλά! Χαίρομαι αν βοήθησα λίγο.
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Δημήτρης
Do u like to buy old antique copper vessel ??
very nice can I ask what the blue liquid and the brightening thing at the end was. it didn't look like liver of sulphur. 3i will ve interested to get sone of this
Thank you very much!
The blue liquid is an oxidizing agent for copper alloys, similar to liver of sulphur but not so strong. The brightening agent is the well known 'Brasso' a metal polish for removing oxidation from brass, copper and stainless steel.
I assume that you find oxidizer for copper alloys in any jewelry supply shop, as for Brasso I think in super markets or any shop that sells house cleaning agents.
All the best
Jimmy
Beautiful work. How many times do you anneal it when working it? Do you take it out of the pitch each time or just to turn over?
Thanks for your comment, David!
I used the torch to heat up the piece 5 or 6 times as it was on the pitch. This way you avoiding bending the metal plate as well as it keeps the pitch a bit more elastic. And I took it out and turn it over twice (I cleaned and annealed the plate each time)
All the best
Jimmy
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Copper n Greece....going back to my Greek Mythology class from way, way back and (*sigh*) reminded me I have to finish my seashell copper pendant.
I wonder if you buy your gift or you make it with your own hand?
If I was your friend, I'd treasure that handmade pencil case, but I'd probably repaint it with "slate" or "aquamarine" 🙂
Love from the Philippines
I apologize for the late reply.
Thank you for the comment, I really appreciate it!
Copper and Greek mythology is a well known bond; but besides that, ancient Greeks are known to be traders of copper to whole then known world.
If I want to give a gift, of course I make it.
I'm happy that you like the pencil case!
Warm regards from Greece
Jimmy
P.S. If you'd like to see more from my work follow these links: facebook.com/profile.php?id=100063694417515
www.etsy.com/shop/MyArtsandCraftsChest
Awesome work ! Thank you very much for this video ! :)
Could you tell what materials did you use for the soldering ?
Thank you very much, I appreciate the comment! As for soldering, I used medium hard silver solder and ready made liquid borax flux (but you can use borax powder mixed with water, works great and its cheaper). Thanks again.
All the best
Jimmy
@@JimmysCanal Thank you very much for your answer !
Have a good day,
Cheers from France :)
My pleasure!
Regards from Greece
Jimmy
Great work! Where do you get your pitch? Is it a tar type solution?
Thank you very much for your comment! I apologize for the late reply.
I make my own tar, here is the recipe:
For 800gr ready to use chasers pitch you need:
300gr asphalt (tar)
210gr pine rosin
250gr fine gypsum
40ml 10SAE machine oil
Preparation
On an water bath (bain-marie) you melt the tar, once its melted you add the pine rosin and stir until it melts too, then you add the gypsum and stir continuously till you can't see any chunks and have a mixture with velvety texture. Lastly you add the oil and stir until it become one with the mixture.
To make a larger quantity of chasers pitch, you increase proportionally the materials. The mixture can be made hard by adding gypsum (if the regional temperature is higher than 27C°) or soft by adding machine oil-for temperatures lower than 15C°
I hope that this will help you.
All the best
Dimitris
I am trying my hand at duplicating your spiral in silver as a way to refresh my memory. It’s been many years since I have attempted repousse work. I notice you planish the ridges. Should I soften the metal and pitch to some degree, or leave it hardened?
Thanks for the comment, I appreciate it! Yes, I always planish the ridges to retain a uniform hammering effect. Before placing the metal onto the pitch it's good to anneal it; after it's cooled onto the pitch it's wise to heat it up a bit so as to work it easily. You can repeat the heating process when you feel the forming of metal is getting hard again.
All the best
Jimmy
Great work! Can you please tell me what kind of resin you use for chasing. And where to buy? Thank you!!!
Hello Marta, Thank you very much, I really appreciate your comment!
I made my own tar for chasing; its a mixture of common asphalt, pine resin, fine gypsum and fine machine oil. Here is a sample of the mixture:
300gr asphalt (tar, AKA German black pitch)
210gr pine resin
250gr fine gypsum
3 soup spoones of W10 machine oil
For making larger quantity you add the ingredients proportionally.
First you melt the asphalt and the pine resin (in a Bain-marie type pot) and stir well, once these two are melted well you add the gypsum slowly and stir continuously. Once you see a smooth mixture (you must not see any floating gypsum powder) then you add the oil; stir well, again you must not see any oil floating. This recepie gives a medium hard chasing pitch; if you live in a relatively hot region you may need to make the mixture harder (by adding gypsum), in case you live in a colder region you can add oil to make it softer.
Now, if you don't want to make your own chasing pitch, you can find ready made in jewelry supplies shops (but probably it will cost you more)
If you live in the States look here:
www.ottofrei.com/jewelry-tools-equipment/forming-tools/chasing-stamping
www.riogrande.com/searchresults#q=chasing%20pitch&t=products&sort=relevancy&layout=card&numberOfResults=36
All the best
Jimmy
Bravo et merci pour le partage je m' abonne plus le pouce levé great :) :)
Merci beaucoup pour ton commentaire, je l'apprécie vraiment! Heureux de partager, comme toujours!
Meilleurs vœux
Dimitris
@@JimmysCanal un grand plaisir bonnes fêtes :)
Bonnes fêtes à toi aussi!
Meilleurs voeux de Grèce
Dimitris
@@JimmysCanal c' est généreux merci :) bonjour de bretagne en France
Do u like to buy old antique copper vessel ??
beautiful! how did you go about darkening the crevaces? and what did you use to wash off the pitch?! cheers!
Hi
Thank you for your comment, I really appreciate it!
I used liquid oxidizer for brass-copper; you can find it in every jewelry tool supply shop. As for the pitch, I submerge it in a bowl with petroleum (petroleum needs time to disolve the pitch) you can use gasoline; it's way faster, but more expensive!
Thanks again!
All the best
Jimmy
Can’t I burn it off and then pickle it?
@@ohev1 Not a good idea, it's tar based & pretty nasty.
@@LeTrashPanda Ageed. Burning it off while a fan is sucking the fumes out is Ok I think. My soldering and annealing is done under a squirrel cage fan I bought that is normally used in a furnace. The fumes are sucked up and blown out a window.
So what was the liquid that you put the piece into to remove the pitch...? Just curious.
Petroleum; most of the time I use petroleum, but if I need to clean a piece fast I use nitrocellulose thinner.
"Ahh that's what it's called" repousse' and chasing. Pitch? as in Tar, Brea. Hmm, always used shellac, I like the smell and chewing tar... beautiful pencil box. time to show 10yr old daughter this technique so she can make herself a pencil box. she's my little Tinker. the older kids didn't want to learn, 10yr old was a natural!
Thank you so much! Lucky kid, your daughter. I would love to be 30 years younger (I'm 48) and to have father a goldsmith!
Cheers
Jimmy
P.S. If you have web site, send me the link. I would love to see your work sir.
Besutiful! What is the pitch you use?
Thank you very much for the comment!
I use black chasers pitch - the mixture has asphalt, colophony (pine resin), plaster of Paris and machine oil.
Τo be more specific, the ratio of the ingredients in the recipe let's say for 1 kilogram are: 370g asphalt, 260g colophony, 310g plaster of Paris and 70-100ml oil (SAE 10W); the result will be a medium hard pitch. For harder pitch we add more plaster, for softer we add oil.
Regards from Greece
Jimmy
@@JimmysCanal thanks for the reply I appreciate it. I make hammered copper spoons out of wire and would really like to try my hand in more projects.
I think that you will like repoussé - chasing, it's not so difficult to try and besides a basic punch set and a bowl with pitch the only that's needed is patience, but I'm sure that you have a lot!! Thanks again for your comment, I appreciate it!
Happy Holidays
Jimmy
What is the stuff that you press that into to do your work
It's pitch (asphalt), you can find various grades of hardness at jewelry supply shops.
Hi,
What type of pitch used?
Hi,
Thanks for asking.
I use black chasers pitch - the mixture has asphalt, colophony (pine resin), plaster of Paris and machine oil.
Τo be more specific, the ratio of the ingredients in the recipe let's say for 1 kilogram are: 370g asphalt, 260g colophony, 310g plaster of Paris and 70-100ml oil (SAE 10W); the result will be a medium hard pitch. For harder pitch we add more plaster, for softer we add oil.
All the best
Jimmy
Jimmy, what is the material that appears at minute 1:36 of the video, that you heat up to fix the piece on top?
I apologize for the late reply.
Thank you for asking! The material is a mixture of asphalt (pitch), fine gypsum, pine rosin and thin machine oil-10SAE. The mixture can be made hard by adding gypsum (if the regional temperature is higher than 27C°) or soft by adding machine oil-for temperatures lower than 15C°
All the best
Jimmy
@@JimmysCanal Jimmy, no problem! Thanks for the answer... Without wanting to abuse your patience, what are the proportions that are mixed in the composition of the material?
@@JimmysCanal Is there a video here on CZcams that teaches how to make this material? I've already looked on the internet, and I just can't find anything about it. Your video and your answer were the first answers I got, in almost 3 years looking for material on the subject!!
No worries my friend, I'll be glad to give you my recipe!
I haven't seen any video about it, perhaps you can find something here: orchid.ganoksin.com/t/pitch-recipe/11486
You may also compare what you can find at the above link with my own recipe that is the following,
For 800gr ready to use chasers pitch you need:
300gr asphalt (tar)
210gr pine rosin
250gr fine gypsum
40ml 10SAE machine oil
Preparation
On an water bath (bain-marie) you melt the tar, once its melted you add the pine rosin and stir until it melts too, then you add the gypsum and stir continuously till you can't see any chunks and have a mixture with velvety texture. Lastly you add the oil and stir until it become one with the mixture.
To make a larger quantity of chasers pitch, you increase proportionally the materials. The mixture can be made hard by adding gypsum (if the regional temperature is higher than 27C°) or soft by adding machine oil-for temperatures lower than 15C°
I hope that this will help you.
All the best Jimmy
What is the pitch made of?
Is a mixture of asphalt (pitch), fine gypsum, pine rosin and thin machine oil-10SAE.
@@JimmysCanalSan po mabibili yung ingredients
@@user-go7ho8zz3r If it's difficult for you to buy the 'ingredients', you can easily buy ready made pitch, here some links: www.cousinsuk.com/product/pitch
www.etsy.com/market/chasers_pitch
www.ottofrei.com/products/nechamkin-made-in-the-usa-organic-pine-rosin-based-green-chasers-pitch-2-2-kilo-5-lb-tub
Cheers
Jimmy
I shut down website 10yrs ago. I could send pictures to your email. Either they discontinued or I forgot. I remember years ago that one could send private emails thru CZcams.
Yes, I think that it has past a year or so, from the last PM I received. Anyway, this is my mail dpolychronis70@gmail.com
I'll be happy to see your work! Thanks again.
All the best
Jimmy
Hi Jimmy, I haven't forgotten you. I am sending some pictures tonight hopefully you get them. Google drive will send you a link since it's 30MB and gmail's limit is 25MB
Thanks for the pictures! Great work my friend, Bravo!!
Cheers
Jimmy
αγαπητέ κύριε πολυχρόνη, ,κατ αρχήν να σας πω ότι χάρηκα που είδα ελληνικό όνομα, τίποτε δεν με προιδέαζε στο βίντεο πως ο καλλιτέχνης ήταν έλληνας :) θα ήθελα να σας στείλω ένα μήνυμα, αν μου επιτρέπετε. έχετε ένα μέιλ ίσως; ευχαριστώ εκ των προτέρων!
Καλησπέρα,
Ζητώ συγγνώμη για την καθυστέρηση στην απάντηση. Ευχαριστώ πολύ για το σχόλιο σας, το εκτιμώ! Αν θέλετε να επικοινωνήσετε μαζί μου μπορείτε να βρείτε το mail μου στην σελίδα ‘πληροφορίες’ του καναλιού μου: czcams.com/users/JimmysCanalabout
Eναλλακτικά μπορείτε να μου στείλετε μήνυμα στο Facebook: facebook.com/profile.php?id=100009283024613
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Δημήτρης Π.
@@JimmysCanal ναι βρήκα το μέιλ σας. θα σας στείλω εντός της ημέρας!
somebody may find this 500yrs from now and be wondering how us cavemen made beauties like this 🪽🪽🪽
Thank you very much! I appreciate your comment, sir!
All the best
Jimmy