Beretta A400 Xtreme Plus Review & Pattern Test - Kicks High Flyer (Full) vs. Pattern Master (Part 2)
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- Beretta A400 Xtreme Plus Review & Pattern Test
Pattern Master Code Black Duck Vs. Kicks High Flyer Full
Part 1 - • Beretta A400 Xtreme Pl... - Sport
I absolutely love the Beretta gas guns, My go to for Duck and geese has been my 1990 vintage 390 silver mallard. #3, 3" drylock has always been my favorite load in this gun and it has devoured thousands of them over the years without complaint.
Another great video to get DRWC going boy! I got the code black duck/and goose chokes for my gun about 4 months ago. But haven’t gotten around to seeing how they pattern.
Thanks for sharing your results. I noticed that there are quite a few holes in those patterns for only 35 yards shots. I have less holes at 50 yards with the Carlson Cremator MR in my SBE2, SX3, and Franchi Affinity with a variety of ammo.
Might want to give that choke a try.
Thanks for the thorough review
I currently have a SBE3 but I guess I might add one of these to the collection.
Thanks
Some of those after markets are more of a full choke, where as the factory tube was modified. Maybe test the stock full vs stock mod and compare that to the aftermarket tubes. Great set up with the table and sand bag.
I did want to but steel was not recommended by beretta to run through its full choke. From my understanding from contacting after market choke tube companies...is the “improved modified” lead choke...is the tightest you want to shoot steel through. And shot nothing greater than BB through that one.
Death Row Waterfowl Co. but it’s marketed as a waterfowl gun, why would beretta not supply steel shot full choke for far shots.
That’s a great question. The gun comes with 5 choke tubes. Cylinder, Improved Cylinder, Modified, Full, and extra full. On each choke tube beretta has marked them “OK- Steel , NO- Steel”....No Steel is marked on the full and extra full. Now from my understanding a “extra full choke in steel” is an improved modified constriction roughly for lead. And a full choke for steel is more of a modified constriction for lead. This is what Kicks has told me. Now reason being is lead will compress since it’s a softer pattern...allowing you to have much tighter chokes vs steel...which will not compress well. Which is how you can blow a hole in your shotgun barrel. If you have any more questions maybe contact beretta and see what they say...or those who create after market choke tubes. But as of now I’ll be running a pattern master code black duck tube on this gun.
Factory chokes are set up to pattern lead shot. A modified lead choke is the equivalent of full when shooting steel which is why most manufacturers specify not to shoot steel out of their stock fulls or x-full. It has to do with the speed and the inability of steel to be compressed through a smaller opening versus lead as a softer metal.
Hello amazing video 🔥 from your experience do you think the rubber on the beretta a400 xtreme plus are durable? I meant for the longevity? Thank you
Yes I’ve literally abused my gun and it’s held together perfect.
Why did you not use the full choke that came with the gun to compare against other full chokes?
My full choke is not rated for steel. The recommended tightest choke for steel, is an improved modified choke for lead constriction wise. Even then you have to be careful with what size shot you use.
Do these chokes say on them “no steel”? Bc every single choke I’ve seen past modified says no steel. Do not shoot steel thru choke. Warning labels on them etc. so again do they say on them that there good for steel?
Yes the full and X full factory chokes say no steel.
where are you aiming on the duck? is it like the sbe3 where it shoots higher?
I am pretty much dead on now...I use a smaller after market sight for a better sight picture.
Anybody ever told you that you look like a cop? Haha good vid
Yes and thanks man 🤣
I had to trash my Kicks high flyer full in less than 100 rounds of non toxic BB with that same shotgun. The choke expanded and nearly got stuck even though kicks claims that choke can handle up to BBB waterfowl loads.
Sorry to hear man. I don’t run BB. If I have to go down that route I’ll just run Boss shells. If I run steel I’ll use Migra 2/4 stack.
What would you consider a 10? Granted benelli and beretta are on the higher end of the spectrum.
Man after shooting this gun for a few years...i give it a 10/10
@@_DRWC_Official what’s the best choke for ducks at less then 50 yards shooting 3in 2 shot?
@@matthewcastell7955 I have had luck with kicks high flyer full
Are you still shooting the a400 XP? I notice you’re not a real tall guy or have bigger hands, I hear people complain about the weight and that it’s “bulky” what’s your take on that? Thanks!
So kicks with Hevi Metal, Patternmaster with Federal - which of these is best for geese?
GregorBlacksmith Hey bro. Thanks for checking out my channel. I’d recommend shooting HeviMetals 2 out of the kicks or pattern master for geese. If you have the standard modified choke...I’d recommend speed shok in BB. You won’t go wrong there.
u need to compare apples to apples (Full vs Full choke and Modified vs Modified)
I would have loved to. But...the factory full choke is not rated for steel in this gun. So I compared these chokes which are all compatible in restrictions. Thanks for the inquiry.
He did compare apples to apples… a modified lead choke shoots steel like a full due to the inability of steel to be compressed like lead
What sling is on this gun?
Ten Point Sling
What bead is on the end of the gun?
Hi-Viz shotgun universal sight
Why not 3.5” shells?
Never needed them to kill ducks.
Were you using 1 1/8 oz or 1 1/4oz ?
Yes. All shells were. Check out the part 1 video.
@@_DRWC_Official one of us is a idiot. The only time I heard you mention the weight of the shot was on the 3 1/2"
@@bagle2010 my bad brother. Yes they are all 1-1/4 shot at least. I don’t ever run anything less.
If it's the new black cloud it's fine to use in the patternmaster
Ive pretty much settled on Boss for duck loads now.
@@_DRWC_Official don't blame you there!
@@_DRWC_Officialeven with the pattern master?
The box on the new black clouds says any choke always lethal
May be true. I contacted Pattern Master about controlled flight wads and they didn't recommend shooting them through their tubes. So, I wonder if Black Cloud did something different.
You are sadly mistaken if you think that is the proper way to pattern a shotgun.
Thank you captain obvious. This is a video of quick patterning every load on the market roughly. Of course I’m not going to sit there and draw circles and count pellets for every load available. Why don’t you do it since you obviously have so much to say about it?
You said 8.5/10 why what's the down falls of this gun
Great question my man. The only reason I knocked it just a hair on score...was because it did have just a hair...and I mean just a hair of bulkiness compared to it’s competitor such as the SBE3. By bulk...I just mean it’s not as slim compared to the SBE3. But you really won’t notice honestly. But other than that this gun operates super smooth, and shoots super well. I actually think it’s smoother than the SBE3.
I had have both the sb3 and a400 extrama plus and the a400 is by far the better shotgun. Doesn’t shoot high or recoil as bad as the sb3.