What Kind of Symbiote Is Venom?
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- Venom is an iconic Spider-Man foe gaining power from the alien symbiote, but what is it exactly? Is it more parasite or something else? Kyle takes a closer look on this week's Because Science!
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Learn more:
• VENOM CHARACTER: nerdi.st/2DTQrzZ
• SYMBIOSIS: bit.ly/2IAs3C5
• HOST-BACTERIAL MUTUALISM IN THE HUMAN INTESTINE: bit.ly/2O24xnF
• EXPLORING THE MANY SHADES OF SYMBIOSES: bit.ly/2OA7Phh - Věda a technologie
Thanks so much for watching! Definitely look more into the weird animal relationships I mention if you're interested (show notes). Life may find a way, but those ways are usually delightfully weird. See you in Footnotes, and tomorrow on the livestream! -- KH
Glad to have watched this! I enjoy the science of these relationships between organisms.
Because Science at what speed is it beneficial to do the Naruto run pleeeaasse
Umm, not sure but we believe that last n'
Knock knock comment was dmx not eminem but it is said in a song that em' and dmx and one other artis we can't remember do sing in it.
can a lifeform like venom exist?
Because Science do you take in mind that venom is only crazy because he read Deadpool’s mind for a second ??
The comic page witch Spider-Man ponds with venom , shows Deadpool wearing the suit first and getting it off as mercy to the creature because he realized it was reading his mind
I see why Venom hates the term "parasite" so much now lol
I don't think it would like being likened to intestinal bacteria either. Evil alien probiotics sounds weird though...
Hes klyntar
@super nova Klyntar is the race, he's talking about the relationship.
He’s just an edgy parasite
Ned Stark parasite isn’t a race
Viscous
Ectosymbiotic
Neuroactive
Obligate
Mutualist
By god, this man is a genius.
I want this to go into the comics
what if this is what Marvel DID!? they ACTUALLY did this "sience" and came with the name VENOM becasue of this outcome!?
Maybe
Kreanon Until you realize Venom is a real word and is probably scientists who did this on purpose
@Jerry Gonzales No, I mean Kyle.
What kind of symbiote is Venom?
Me: *The best kind.*
Hello, fellow Hazbin Hotel fan!
@@stasi9949
I love Vivziepop's art style.
*Oof effect sound* :))))
Awwww cute 🤦🏿♂️
Truly the best
"Venom is a Venom."
-Of the Science, Thor, 2018
W
That V.E.N.O.M acronym was genuis. Should be canon
Agreed
Right? Maybe it is and we are just now catching onto it..
TWEET THIS VIDEO AT THEM -- KH
James Royce-Dawson honestly tho
You're right it is brilliant.
I’m giving a like to this video solely for that strong acronym game.
BAM -- KH
Because Science omg I get another acronym for free! I’ll bite, what does it stand for?
Because of it We are venom
When the acronym is just right.
Damn right! Now Kyle needs to come up with a scientific acronym for "Carnage"! >:-)
You forgot some key aspects of the Venom symbiote: it actually cures all human ailments as it cured Eddie Brock's cancer, and it feeds off the negative emotions of and is permanently affected by its host's personality.
Correct me if I'm wrong because I don't keep up with a lot of comic plotlines in recent years, but didn't the symbiote merely feed off and prolong Eddie's cancer cells? I seem to remember him dying when he chose to let the symbiote free and the cancer took him.
@@alexloeher8628 😊😊😊😊
@@alexloeher8628 Venom convinced Eddie that he had cancer when infact he didnt. He did this so Eddie would never leave him. Eddie thinking he had then got cancer and Venom left him :(. Venom feeds off of the adrenaline cased by Eddie thinking he had cancer. Eddie started working at F.E.A.S.T and he was on stage 4 and about to die but he ran into Martin Li/Mr Negitive and Martin cured Eddie indiarectly with his powers and those powers mixed with the symbiote cells still in Eddie's body and created Antivenom. Antivenom can actually cure all human ailments of the host and others. Antivenom also doesnt have a weakness to fire or sound. The more you know :)
After you mentioned the 100 trillion bacteria in our guts, I had to pat my stomach and say "that's you little dudes" bc shout out to those little dudes. They've been with me since the beginning 😂
lmao
My Gut Lads
@Mazzy The MazdaTiger *MGL*
Considering the length of their life cycles... their ancestors were woth you lol
@@scottydu81 holy shit that’s cool
So venom is just misunderstood and looking for a life partner? That's kinda cute actually.
In a slightly twisted kind of way
WarlandWriter just don't break up with it or it becomes worse then any yandere stalker you could possibly imagine and try to kill you
Venom has a life partner he's is Spider-Man
venom is actually a good guy now. after being boneded to flash tompson for a long time.
WarlandWriter blame deadpool for that they actually inserted deadpool into venoms discovery by Spider-Man he wore the symbiote before Spider-Man he removed it pretty quickly stating I hope my mind didn’t send the little guy insane latter on in canon venom rebonds with deadpool for a while during the period Spider-Man removes the symbiote at the bell tower and when it bonded with Eddie so basically deadpool drove venom insane
Technically you also have a skin full of bacteria that live off our dead and spent epidermal cell layer and that form a biofilm that keeps other, less helpful bacteria away.
So we kind of have the suit too.
I explained to my friend that its like a private microbial army and excessive cleaning can eliminate it making infection more likely (this helped a germaphobe to stop cleaning every 10 seconds).
And we should damn happy we have those bacteria living on us. Otherwise opening our eyes after a night of sleep would be kinda difficult.
Without the bacteria living at the base of every single strand of an eyelash which eats the dried residue of our eye fluid (tears) these would cake our eyelids shut.
It would be a fairly thick gunk covering the slit between our eyelids; so thick, in fact, that the muscles of our eyelids would fail to open them. We would first have to rub our eyes vigorously with our hands before being able to open them.
But we're lame compared to Venom
@Ryukenb2k No god is necessary to explain our existence in terms of "How were humans created from starstuff?". We are simply an emergent property of the ideal conditions of our planet. Statistics alone declare that, eventually, life will be created in the right circumstances. It's a matter of the random creation of a self-propagating thing; RNA alone could survive and reproduce in exactly the right environment, and the complex amino acids that make it up can be found everywhere in deep space. And with that little kickstart, you have a seed from which an entire biosphere can slowly evolve, over hundreds of millions or even billions of years - If the right bit of RNA is created. This is, thus far, an unproven, but sensible and testable hypothesis, at least the last time I checked.
That's not to say that it isn't possible that a higher power couldn't have influenced our existence in some way, or that there isn't an afterlife. I personally believe the universe is indifferent to our actions, and that how our actions affect our lives is what we should focus on. My morality comes from the fact that being kind and good are simply very good general long term strategies, especially in this day and age. Plus, it makes me feel good about myself :)
And, when my time comes, whether it comes in 60-80 years, tomorrow, or at the end of time, I won't have to worry about anything anymore. That is as much a tragedy as it is a relief; a decidedly neutral proposition. I hope to live as long and in as good of health as I possibly can, and benefit my family, friends, community, and the human race as much as I can, and enjoy life until life is no longer an option.
Zagreus Veritas so "we" _are_ venom
Mitochondria is the powerhouse of the force
God Damnit you’re a freaking genius
Lol
ayeee
Game theory made a vid ond dat
Marcus Holloway you mean film theory
3:35 "AHHHHHH!"
"I find that making a chart helps."
This needs to be my new work mantra.
"That felt like throwing up in reverse!"
Swallowing is a strange feeling. I agree.
Hey, Folks! He's so unfunny it hurts lol
Good point
Hey, Folks! I always fear eating dinner because of this
Thats what she said!!!
(Because someone has to be that guy)
Anon Ymity it is if you’re really into the food
*pokes the microbes inside of me* come on, give me super powers
@@PeterBalfor Yeah, it's about time they do!
To quote Syndrome, "If everyone's super... no one will be. (super)"
Underrated comment
They allow you to fart, you just have to give them fibrous veggies
@Joseph Watkins r/woooosh
Your videos always bring laughter
I love your vids alteori!!👍👍
Alteori , how are you
Didn't expect you here !
Throwing up in reverse is just eating.
Throwing up is the act of muscles spasming in such a way that contents are involuntarily expelled from the body.
Throwing up in reverse would be muscles spasming in such a way that things are involuntarily swallowed - perhaps most importantly, without chewing.
Imagine trying to ram a whole cheeseburger down your throat.
Oh
Would probably throw it back up
I think I've seen that happen in Family Guy once
@@deffdefying4803 so, Kirby?
Life with Venom must be a nightmare, especially when you're an introvert. Imagine not only never being alone, ever. But the symbiote *knows* your thoughts, and your physical state. When you got to sleep, it's there. When you take a shower, it's there. Watching. Judging. When you want to fondue with a partner there's an uncomfortable presence in the back of your mind, baffled by the awkward human mating rituals.
My point is, Venom would be the worst roommate.
But what if Venom is super cool with all of that? He could be the ultimate wing man. You're almost about to score when you come really close to f-ing it up. Then Venom subconsciously goes "Nah bro, don't say that shit. Be smooth like this" and he totally saves the date by giving you the perfect lines .
given how venom can actually help with social anxiety by making his host more assertive and confident, i think venom is the ultimate wingman.
plus venom retains the knowledge of all of his previous hosts, meaning that he can help you out in academic persuits too due to him having access to the scientific knowledge of peter.
Wholesome Venom.
Hahahahahaha
@@windhelmguard5295 that'd be awesome as hell!!
Venom's appearance reminds me of an orca whale lol
It all makes sense now
🤣🤣
You mean Amy schemur
Same
@Laith Ramzi and that spider logo is from spider man!
I have a symbiotic relationship with _Depression_ .
Depression: the mental illness that just keeps on giving
Donal Trump : *So Sad!*
can't wait for that acronym!
Black Sheep I have a symbiotic relationship with anxiety.
Seinfeld Theme starts playing in the background
Me: I'm depressed
Friend: why?
Me: It's my gut's fault
*_that Acronym was very well built up to!_*
_A like was deserved. A like was given._
Throwing up in reverse? isn't that just eating food?
accurately it would be like making a mix of various foods and swallowing it really fast.
@@PredatorH2O so a smoothie?
Chugging a chunky smoothie, yeah.
No it would be like you threw up a lit bit kept it in mouth and then you swallowed back that mix of stomach acid and chunky food. It is still pretty disgusting, mostly due to stomach acid ingredient...
One time my sister had strep throat...
Someone thought it was a good idea to puree chicken noodle soup for her...
Apparently it was horrible. Perhaps try that as an example?
We're all venoms?
No wonder we're all so toxic
JC Corbes lol
I'd personally prefer a nice set of razor sharp teeth and a tounge long enough to please a lesbian orgy from a block over. Rather than my digestive and skin bacteria.
The Black Baron o_0
Cool...I guess...
No thats his grandson.
In all your video in comment section
There should be a comment
'Are you thor' ...
..
Could he tell you if he was?
Ok so at 0:44 can we just take note that Venom also has the ability to DELETE PANTS??
Lol
Technically, Venom IS the pants
iirc that's how venom hides itself when not in the monstrous form
I noticed too! I went back to check, thinking maybe my bad eyesight was the culprit. How'd they end up drawing those frames and forget pants were there before?
Jensen Hendrix, I approve of your last name
In the movie hes actually a parasitic organism that feeds on its hosts organs. He just decides he likes Eddie and doesn't eat him.
Savage Cabbage yeah, I think that’s what Kyle implied a bit when he mentioned that Venom didn’t like fully dominating its hosts. Biologically, Venom is totally a parasite, but when you factor in his personality, as Kyle said, he’s more of a mutualist
There is of course the factor that Venom and others of his species do slowly consume their hosts if their hosts don't or aren't able to provide them with enough nutrients via the food they eat. That's what happened to the host of the yellow symbiote, and Venom was also beginning to do it to Eddie- not because he wanted to, but because otherwise he wouldn't have been able to keep himself alive.
@@nerdletter3773 that is whay he east people
I thought he eats organs if he doesn't eat enough people
@@bangasou12 tater tots and chocolate
I shared this video with my science teacher, who is teaching symbiotic relationships in a few days. Great video, man.
He looks like the guy across the hall from Eddie in Venom
I know he does? No wonder he turned down the music.
Nah he is Thor
Knull the simbiote king is much displeased with you Kyle, exposing all of the secrets of his race.
All knull has done is fail to kill 2 people and explain the secrets of his race
Isn't he the god of then
i cant stop laughing because knull literally mean fuck like fuck in fuck somebody not the swearing word
translate.google.com/#no/en/knull
@@carizmo2805 lmao i cant take it seriously either
Does this count as studying for my science test?
jinlan chen depends, what’s your science test on?
Definitely
If you are studying symbiotes, then definitely!
i'd say so.
no...no it does not
Dude this was dope. When you got to the acronym for Venom I literally paused the video because my brain totally jizzed. Keep up the good work brother
Wait... sooooo
🧠💨
If venom bonded with thor
Actually happen ones in the comics
It wouldn’t work because Thor’s lightning blood
@@meiju1563 Yep! IN What-IF
If our digestive bacteria outnumber our own cells, wouldn't that mean statistically, we aren't human?
Yes. WE ARE GUT FLORA!! D:
I don’t know. If it’s the same thing for dogs, does that mean statistically, they aren’t dogs?
I think it would be more accurate to say that the current definition of human includes the the bacteria.
Orion Well, per mass they aren’t
No, because our digestive bacteria aren't a part of us, because they're a separate species known as...
Bacteria :P
Kyle looks like Chris Hemsworth, but sounds like Michael from VSauce.
nah not Michael. he sounds like jake
A knock off chris hemsworth yeah
Hey Vsauce, Thor here
Hey, A-Sauce! Thor here! (Avengers Sauce if that wasn't obvious)
Basically Thor + Mr. Fantastic right?
I love your videos, both informational and silly. You explain a lot but leave questions for the viewer to answer themselves. I'm frequently late for work, listening to your theories. Good show, bud, good show.
Venom's not really ecto, if I'm being honest. He bonds with your entire body on a cellular level. Not really outside of your body.
Good thing ecto and endo both start with an E so the acronym still stands
He acts on the outside though... Hmm.... Either way the E in the acronym still works.
It was a suit for spider Man and can get separated and does not bond in cellular level
Junaid Ansari and yet in the movie it lives inside the body.
@@tanweeralam3162 That's true, but not entirely. Yes, Peter was bonded with venom, and yes they separated. But that's because Peter wasn't a perfect host. I forget who, (I believe it's Eddy Brock but I could be wrong) who bonded with venom and couldn't be separated because he was a perfect match. True hosts or perfect matches can't be separated without the death of both host and symbiote.
We're all V.E.N.O.M.s? That explains a lot about human society lol
We got a couple Carnages among us too
Good thing there are some Toxins in the mix then
There are some Anti-Venoms, those are the bullies probably
This comment section is a Riot.
NothingnessKing hahahahahhaha
To answer your question before you ask it. Venom is a Klyntar. An alien race found on what was thought a comet but is actually a giant comet sized planet. I know you're explaining what type of symbiotic relationship venom has with his host but I just wanted to give a fun fact
EvanTDC The Diamond Creeper no shit Sherlock
@@keonejones7283 some people probably dont know that so dont be too mean to a random person on the internet.
Klyntar is a prison tho.. It started with Knull being locked up in a prison made of his own symbiotes. Lots of them got spread around the galaxy, so the "Klyntar" are not a race, it's a prison and the Symbiotes that spread through space were actually symbiotes who didn't want to be pure evil anymore
@@fwkz4216 Yes it was originally a prison but the symbiotes themselves where then named the Klyntar by Null because Klyntar means prison and being bonded with a symbiote is like a prison. So it's both a "prison" for hosts and means prison in the Klyntar language
@@rinakatsuki2801 Thank you
Legend has it that the spider is still living inside of him to this day
Venom and the other symbiote's of Marvel comics(Carnage,Antivenom)are some of my favorite characters. Talking about mutualism, you brought this up a time or two, once attached to someone Venom always phrases it as "we"
I spent some time of my life figuring out what the symbiote is made of. I came to the conclusion of amoeba with a ferrofluid based cytoplasm, given that ferrofluid is controllable, can kill cancer, and alter minds (sound familiar). Also amoeba can shapeshift and harden (as a cyst layer, (this is bracketception: possible forming the teeth)). There was more but I can’t currently remember it.
Edit: I remember the bit I forgot, Amoebas possess the ability of endosymbiosis, basically coping genes, (just like the klyntar). I have remembered even more, it would feed on adrenaline and three different proteins which I can’t remember the name of (one being myostatin) and turn them into three other proteins (again I can’t remember the names but foliostatin is one of them)
I think it's more similar to the giant pyrosome, which is actually a free-floating colonial tunicate, in that it is a giant colony using the host cell organization as a base to build on and to feed off of. That can explain why the symbiotes can grow and shrink since single cell organisms cant really shrink and grow, they can only change the shape. Also, that explains why they take some features from the host since the cell organization of the host is the base they use to build. Another symbiote trait that can be explained by the colony theory is that you can fragment it and it can grow and form new sybiotes.That can explain also, how they can grow tentacles and all that if we assume they can reproduce super fast.
actually it's a part of the abyss forged into a physical form by the abyss god knull that was later sealed by the klintar(venom's race). forming the whole planet klintar that is basicly a bunch of symbiotes around knull.that keep him trapped. forming his klintar=his cage.
so...it's just magic stuff.
@@FrancisYorkMorganFBI it's spelt Kylntar, btw. But yeah, they literally imprisoned their creator, Knull, with their own bodies.
Aleksandar Ristic that makes a a lot of sense, maybe venom is a combination of both our theory’s, you might even get a supernerd
MrZeldameister yes I know what they are in lore, but knull isn’t a real, is he.
Are you Thor?
John neither does thor
i have been asking myself that since the first time i saw him
He would be a better Thor then Thor himself
Gaminfish wtf he doesn’t?
*yes yes*
I love your content. I think it’d be awesome to see you do this style video with common super weakness and show how they could be a positive to have!!!
This video was good. Just the explanation I was looking for. Thanks alot for making this. 🖒
Going off the original comics, the Venom Symbiote was not kicked off of it's homeworld for not being bad enough. The Klyntar (The species name) had long-since become a benevolent species. They were so sensitive to the thoughts and feelings of their hosts that they are very easy to corrupt. This is what happened to Venom's Klyntar. He was banished because he was too evil, not for not being evil enough.
Ryan Hutcherson for the average joe, Venom was a good movie. But the movie made Venom a loser hah :(
Ryan Hutcherson Or so we though, now Knull is a huge part of the klyntar's backstory.
Actually it was revealed that the Klyntar (name of the symbiote race) known as Venom was actually bonded to Deadpool during the Secret Wars which drove him insane due to Deadpool's fractured psyche, so he was banished because they couldn't fix him. He was eventually healed from this insanity which lead to the introduction of Agent Venom and restored his connection to the Klyntar hive mind
right expected but it bonded to spider-man during secret-war then with spider-man back to earth
Could you please make an episode to see if it is plausible that spider man could have stopped the train in spiderman 2?
From the strength of regular Spiderwebs, i think just the webs could stop it themselves, he uses quite a lot, and it takes a bit to stop it. It's just be a matter of if his arms would come out of their sockets or the metal would break before the train stopped.
From the way he holds the webs, the force would be backwards, so his arms wouldn't dislocate, but there'd be a lot of pressure on his elbows, since they'd be being pulled in a direction they don't want to go. But, given that he frequently gets exploded and thrown through walls (just the previous movie the Goblin literally throws him into a building from the sky, and Spider Man just stands back up.
It'd hurt like fuck (as it does, he passes out after stopping it), but it seems reasonable.
On the list! -- KH
@@becausescience YESSSS
Kharn The Betrayer most of the force would be on the corners of tge train, abd your elbows only don't want to go in that direction if your palms, or fibgers in the case of a closed fist, are facing down.
Well, if we think about the strength Spider-Man shows in the comics it’s no wonder he can do it... number though are numbers! We should see it!
I've always thought of the 3 symbiosis categories to be more like a circle. So it would be like parasite to commensalism, to mutualism to parasite. So the bird you mentioned ( the Yellow billed Ox pecker) would be on the verge of mutualism and parasitism.
Honestly the Venom movie is one of my favorite superhero movies ever. Tom Hardy’s quote-unquote “over acting” makes him seem like a _person_ going through the events of the movie rather than just a _character_ going through the motions the plot requires.
*_up to eleven_* when the fact that in was revealed that the improvised _"lobster tank scene"_ wasn't scripted
Hey, gut flora! Where’s my super goo powers?! Producing Vit K isn’t quite as cool as web-shooting
I’m pretty sure venom doesn’t shoot webs, he shoots extensions of himself. Which makes me think whether he would feel pain if those were broken
We aren’t allowed to tell you exactly how.
But as a hint, you have to stop kicking them out of your body(defecating), so they can build up their numbers (and superpowers).
I mean, you like being alive right? -- KH
Danilego Venom is capable of creating same substance Peter uses, as it's most likely organic, and host body will have required nutrients to make it.
Human DNA has some spider genes left, so it can simply adjust some cells to produce web.
Oh man there's nothing I love more than a good backronym.
Symbiotes(as in venom symbiotes) can live alone
In one of the newest Venom comics a Symbiote was bonded with a person so long that it fully became the human but the human in itself is gone
Venom also can give you its previous owners abilities. So change the symbiosis yo made of VENOM
Sadly this has never been actual shown in comics. His own abilities are similar to spiderman so there is no proof that he replicated spiderman abilities.
He did however, he took his strength and web swinging.
Yeah, but that's because he actually copy paste them into his own, so it still as if it were his powers. The symbiosis would still be the same.
Yall are overthinking it. Venom did take spidey's abilities to a degree when they bonded. Thats why he has the spider symbol that symbolizes he was influenced. And venom gets the memories of who he bonds to. So he had to learn some things from Parker's memories
The relationship between me and my roommate is certainly parasitic
Hey, Because Science. Loved your vid and the artistic way you explained all the relationships this planet has! I love Venom as a character as much as Spider-Man because, hey, I grew up with it! I had always wondered what kind of Symbiosis the creatures have with their hosts and the V.E.N.O.M. acronym is perfect! Have a great day! :)
This is one of the most interesting Because Science videos I've ever seen and I've watched a lot of them. I didn't know that there was so many different types of symbiosis in our world and in nature on our planet. That's is something really cool to learn. Thanks Because Science and Kyle Hill. :-)
Kyle, if Venom truly is ectosymbiotic, why is it not pernanently covering the outer dermal layer of Eddie Brock's body? And when it is not covering the outer dermal layer of the body, where does it displaces itself to? And how does it mutate the host even being able to heal him even from terminal illnesses, such as Cancer, or even make him shapeshift into inhuman forms, such as a puddle?
Well
It lives both inside and outside
it covers your body when it functions
but also inside your body
Survival is more than just "staying not dead", it can also involve social survival such that Eddie can still blend in with society and not draw obscene amounts of attention to himself. After all, being hunted down by Spider-Man constantly would be incredibly draining.
As for where it displaces itself to, I think given how Venom is depicted chances are it's replacing the interstitial fluids of the host; the miniscule amount of fluid that's between cells. While I wouldn't have an idea how much volume that ends up being - a proper biologist would have a better idea - given that Venom at most gives a small extra layer of goop it seems relatively feasible that the extra volume could fit there.
Lastly, mutating the host is a pretty easy question - CRISPR has been mentioned several times on the show, which allows for direct gene editing of DNA. Being a goopy alien, it's not _that_ much a stretch that Venom could potentially be fiddling with every cell's DNA at the same time and improving the host's natural resilience.
In regards to the shapeshifting, I'd imagine what would need to happen is Venom disassembling Eddie's body (perhaps on join, during the initial gene editing), breaking him into an amorphous blob of cells that either entity could control.
Ninja Hombrepalito I believe that in the comics, Venom hides „within the hosts cells“ and there is also Carnage, who hides in the bloodstream of his host. If this is not the case then Venom could still shapeshift into regular-looking clothes. I think.
But wouldn't the symbiote then be endosymbiotic instead of ectosymbiotic like Kyle said?
the symbiote can take the form of clothing
Wasn't it was hinted in the comic that the reason the symbiote drive the host a bit crazy is because it once was temporarily bonded with deadpool right before it bonded with spiderman. When it tried to bond with deadpool, it tried to read his mind which might had driven the symbiote crazy. Also might explain the obsession toward spiderman.
zeng0304 A fellow Karl Smallwood fan, I presume?
Top that with Spiderman rejecting Venom and Eddie being really angry at Peter for getting him fired and you get a good villain
And all top of all that, his family issues? Yea venom is in need of long overdue therapy
The Kylntar are a very weird species, Venom bonds to the body, yet carnage bonded directly with kletus' cells. I imagine there are a whole lot of different ways the Kylntars could bond or work
I dont know how ive never seen this channel before. Everything science is what interests me. Definitely my favorite channel now 👌🏽
This is surprisingly educative and comedic at the same time.
You are actually able to laugh while watching this video?
Carnage Deadpool is the best symbiote.
PaleGhost69 best symbiote is when Venom bonded with creep
PaleGhost69 no carnage green goblin
Deadpool controling 4 symbiotes at once
Redhulk with the carnage symbiote and the spirit of vengeance riding a motorcycle.
Anti-Venom, bonded to Deadpool's brain, which has been transplanted into Howard the Duck's body, which is possessed by Hybrid.
Beat that.
Love the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy example.
“That felt like throwing up in reverse”
LOL IM DEAD-
Blame deadpool for venom being crazy
aaaand the original genocidal host
I blame you, Deadpool!
Blame Canada!
Viscous
Ectosymbiotic
Neuroactive
Obligate
Mutualist
I love it and hope it some day becomes canon
"life is complicated" bwah ha! understatement of the century
3:52 that's what she said 😂😂
And think this and the Super-speed episode may be my favorite, so far. I liked how you compared Venom to our own gut bacteria. My question would be; What is the symbiote taking from it's host to form the suit and any appendages. The host appears to be the same size with no notable change in mass. Does the host weigh more now that it's bonded to the symbiote? In the comics, it appears that the host becomes massive.
from my understanding, then the "suit" is nothing more than venom's skin, it's webs is it's "veins" and so on, as for what it feeds of off, well, you, more specifically, your dead cells or something like that, as for weight gain, that i can't answer
Awesome, so we’re all basically powerless Venom 😎
Life sucks what else is new :c
Yup
Unless scientists figure out something.
Powerless Venoms with depression
No watch what I wrote...training physicaly your body is actually like...training to control your powers
I'm having a biology test tomorrow and the animal interactions are basically all it's about. great time to release this. :)
The Veer from the night angel trilogy also falls into this category of a symbiote. in a world where they need the sun or a source of fire to use magic. the veer lets them use magic at night.
Hey Kyle! People would be surprised how much real world parasites interact with our pop culture and society. As we all know, cats and the internet are as famous a combination as peanut butter and jelly. Our obsession with cats, however, has allowed the spread of a specific parasite, Toxoplasma Gondii. It's only known to reproduce in felines, and is estimated to have infected up to half the population. Toxoplasmosis, the disease attributed to T. Gondii, can cause birth defects, flu-like symptoms, and, although not heavily researched, may be linked to schizophrenia. Talk about "Crazy Cat People".
So thats why the cat lady from the simpsoms is so.....crazy.
I love how he showed how to pronounce venom and did it correctly.
wya sev sim-bye-ote?
How dare you! Lol
Sim-bee-hōt
@@jacobhofius2528 sim bee oat
Although a few times he kind of mispronounced 'anemone' -- he said _aneNOme_ . No biggie though :D
I'm only at the beginning of this video but let me share my thoughts.
I think Venom is a mutually beneficial endosymbiotic organism.
Well mostly beneficial just to itself but also partially beneficial to the host so still mutually beneficial.
Oh and only sometimes or partially endosymbiotic because it is often visible on the outside of it's host being worn like clothes.
What if the real VENOM was inside us all along?
That would be supah cool.
@@krystalisee like "supah" man
Like *supah hot fire*
@@wazirtahfiz3087 lol
@@donnabrahamworsley5857 did I just created a chain or something?
2:18 That's what she said.
3:37 "AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA-I find that making a chart helps."
Gotta love that character switch at 3:35
Been thinking of something smart to say so I can get into footnotes for like 20 episodes and here’s the smartest thing I came up with:
Put Kyle on The Expanse!
But, where would he be from? He seems tall enough to be a Belter.
@@cjwrench07 Average height, but then again, all the actors on the show are my height! -- KH
Question: What kind of Symbiote is Venom?
Answer: The possessive kind.
@3:53 I realised the symetry your chart (nature) portrays..
Or in lamans terms: That chart makes a perfect circle.
4:45 Got a genuine laugh out of me. I love your content.
I think that most symbiots are parasites because as you have mentioned on there homeworld it is a rule that a symbiot has to control it's host's mind completely using only it's body similar to scertain mushrooms that infect ants and turn them into "zombies" which is in my opinion one of the best examples of what most symbiots do to there host's.
Still your video is absolutely great and logic because you specifically speak about Venom who was as you mentioned banished from his homeworld because he chose to life in a healthy symbiotic relationship with his host's.
PS: Apologies for all writing mistakes I am from Germany.
PSS: All your videos are great. Thank you!
Nicklas Brandes *PARASITE*
from the movie you know
Your acting is just amazing. Makes these videos that much more engaging.
Very kind of you to say. I try my best to be entertaining but have no training to speak of. It's hard! -- KH
@@becausescience You make it look easy.
But what people tend to forgot is the when the symbiote bonded with Peter Parker aka Spider-man, that is how it acquired its spider-like abilities. The comics kept that main emphasis, but the movies overlooked that asset and just gave him credit to be the symbiote that it is today.
My guy, I just got onto your videos and I’m literally scrolling through and I fucking swear you answer everything I’ve always though you answer it with science. You my friend are probably s tier when it comes to CZcams channels. You collaborate everything someone would want in a video bravo my guy bravo
I'd love the worm Symbiotes from Futurama! Makes you super strong and super smart.
In my personal head-canon fry only got his super powers because his primitive biology couldn't defend against the parasites while modern humans/aliens would have digested/killed them.
No love for carnage? Not even a mention?
Also, does venom sit on the skin or inside the skin? If outside how does it change its size and color to make itself invisible when not in use? If inside how painful would it be to have venom go in and out of your skin (I'm guessing through your pores) and how does your skin not tear from that much mass entering your body?
Normally they would sit on the outside of the skin but in Eddy Brock's case he is a nearly perfect host which causes him and venom to fuse as a cellular level overtime. To the point that separating them could kill Brock AND Venom.
the klintar can turn into clothes to hide themselves or just retreat into their host's bloodstream.
Carnage I know lives in the bloodstream
Way back to the Secret War, when Peter got the symbiote, we saw that Venom have the ability to morph and change it's colour to look as normal clothing. Initially, it consumed the original Spiderman costume and replaced it. Later, back on Earth, Peter could instantaneously switch between street cloth to his Spiderman ID.
"How does your skin not tear from having that much mass enter your body?" That's what she said.
Love this guy. One of my favorite episodes
A++ Exactly the content I wanted, thankyou
also, love the host's hair
Really great episode Kyle! We've been looking forward to this one for forever!
My 9-year-old has a question that might be right up your alley - if a two-dimensional object casts a one-dimensional shadow, and a three-dimensional object casts a two-dimensional shadow, then does a four-dimensional object cast a three-dimensional shadow? And if so, does that mean we're potentially the shadows of a four-dimensional object??
Keep it up :)
I believe that in physics the other 8 spacial dimensions are smaller and sort of folded. The three main ones are big and obvious, but I don't think that the 4th scales up in quite the way you're imagining.
Related big exciting science is quantum field theory where everything is an interaction between overlapping pervasive fields (like magnetism). Great accessible video on that is by the Royal Institute (RI) on CZcams, about 40 minutes and posted about a year ago.
(I know you're asking Kyle, but in case he doesn't see this and you still want an answer) Yes! A tesseract is the 4d version of a cube (like a cube is the 3d version of a square) and if you Google "tesseract" you'll get a Wikipedia page that shows a rotating shadow of a tesseract. We can only see in 3 dimensions so this is the only way we can see shapes like that.
Adventure Time.
Wait this is actually a really good question.
Kyle fun fact there's trillions of symbiotic bacteria living within you're stomach. These bacteria help in both digestion and in immune response as White blood cells cannot survive in the acidic enviroment. Yeah I know Kyle said the first part in the video but its nice to know that our stemcells when in development can birth bacteria before we are born in a semi viral way.
that sounds new. i think you are getting confused with the microbiote in the intestine.
@@francescofavro8890 no the bacteria in the stomach does act as a first line of defence in the digestive track.
I spend the last part of the video talking about this! -- KH
@@becausescience I know I mentioned that but I elaborated more on it than you're vague talk. Mainly about the immune part not the stomach ph content.
Our stem cells can't birth bacteria or they wouldn't be our stem cells. Eukaryotic and prokaryotic cells are very different. I think you're getting a little confused. You're coated in a lot of your first microbiome at birth and you're right that it's very important for the GI tract in general. Not really sure what you mean by 'semi viral' though. Viruses aren't even cells. They're genetic material encased in protein.
This is my new favorite video from your channel
7:30- Oh yeah, it’s all coming together
I love this video
Straight up had the same problem after Taco Bell.
Venom is a reverse Edgar Suit 😀
That roach Motherfucker from Men in Black?
Heyyyyyyyyy
@@ksoundkaiju9256 yes
"Your skin is half your bones."
SUGAR...IN WATER... -- KH
It would be nice if you'd make a video about the posibility of Fungus based parasite that causes zombies from Humans or bigger mammals, like in the last of us. (I know that it was loosely based on some ant-infecting fungi)
One semi-correction. Venom is capable of living outside the host. He has been separated and contained many times in the comics. One of the best storylines to illustrate this was the "Seperation Anxiety" miniseries in the 90's.
I've got two questions, one about last week's episode:
I was re-watching an anime called Rurouni Kenshin that has a character with no sweat glands. Would something akin to 'vaporization' happen to someone who tried to live like that?
And another about this week:
If we take the definition of viscous and mutualism very loosely, could pregnancy be a 'venom'?
Viscous (to start with, kinda)
Endosymbiotic
Neuro-active (It does have an effect on the host's brain)
Obligate
Mutualist (It can give the host a better sense of smell for instance)
(Honestly I'm just throwing something out hoping to get on footnotes lol, Love the show!)
I don't think not sweating would make you hot enough to vaporize, you'd just have to live somewhere colder, or pant like a dog.
Clever thought about pregnancy, but I don't really think the relationship there is "mutual" the mum kinda gets a raw deal lol.
Cafe Vampire Well that's not entirely true to be fair. The mother is spreading her genes, which in the end, is the natural function of why we exist, ,to procreate. So she's actually finishing why she exists in the first place, Due to the infant. If it survives of course.
If a person has no sweat glands, that would only cause problems on hot days or during physical activity, because they lack to ability to evaporatively cool themselves. This is a thing that real people have called Hypohidrotic ectodermal dysplasia.
There is a disease where the sufferers have no sweat glands called Hypohidrotic Ectodermal Dysplasia. The horror actor Michael Berryman has it and overheating is an issue. Similarly, dogs have no sweat glands where they have fur and can overheat quickly. And no, vaporization requires more energy than a human body can produce metabolically.
Pregnancy is parasitic in the short term but possibly mutualistic in long term. The energy and nutrient flow is unidirectional in utero. After birth genes are passed on so there is a benefit in the long term. The argument can also be made that in taking care of a social group (elderly included) that reproduction and child rearing ensures care of parents in the future.
@@theworstcatholic7247 Yeah, I was just joking really.