Hollywood HATES Hazbin Hotel
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- čas přidán 16. 04. 2024
- Writer's Analysis - The Hollywood Problem and Hazbin Hotel
Let's be honest, Hollywood has taken over nearly ever facet of the storytelling industry. From book publishing to comics, to music to cartoon shorts, companies and individuals everywhere hope that they can one day make it to Tinsel Town and become famous by adapting their hard work into a beloved film or show. It's basically the new American Dream! However, there are many deep-rooted problems for novice writers and new creators. As we can begin to see in a show like Hazbin Hotel, Hollywood loves underdog stories, but they hate working underdogs. Interestingly, this show which made a big splash is getting almost no buzz or accolades from Hollywood. In this video, Lars explores why and what problems that begins to pose for all of us creatives.
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"Hazbin isn't doing anything for Amazon"
Me who downloaded Amazon ONLY because I wanted to watch HH: 👁️👄👁️
Literally same, I got amazon prime just for Hazbin Hotel XD
Me as well.
sameee lol
Same lol
real
“The fans don’t want animation!” Tell that to Murder Drones, Invincible, TADC, Helluva Boss, Star Wars The Clone Wars, Family Guy, and more! Animation holds a special place to a lot of people, and its popularity speaks for itself
Japanese animation largest target audience is adults so I do not know what is stopping Western animation from releasing animations targeting adults
Exactly! Hollywood executives make no sense to me... But it's also other creators, too. I keep hearing from insiders that they say it's time to move on from animation and they make all kinds of excuses for it. It's mindboggling! Especially when compared to all those shows and more! And anime is eating Hollywood's lunch!
@@camillesharem it truly is; anime’s I’ve been watching lately from The Eminence in Shadow, too Solo Leveling, One Punch Man, Demon Slayer, and many many more are becoming some of the most talked about pieces of media; then indie series getting so much more love and attention for animation and story and even more, Hollywood is just sitting by, and not capitalizing off the obvious success of animation as it continue to improve
@@ShadowFred386 It's disappointing for sure. But their loss can become the gain for so many creators! That's why I said earlier this year that this decade is our chance to make a real splash!
@@camillesharem it’s really a great year for it, at some point this month I actually plan on trying my hand on writing something as I try and write my own script for my first commentary video! The livestream discussing MD episode 7 honestly inspired me to try and take a crack at commentary and such! Gonna potentially work on a script for a video analyzing V as a character
I prefer animation to any other medium
4. They hate how Hazbin basically is Los Angelos shithole but with furries which makes Hollywood uncomfortable.
One would think that they would feel even more at home given that description.
@@camillesharem that would disrupt the fantasy they want to sell to the world about Hollywood.
The Hollywood villain arc is… tragic, and yet inspirational.
“Animation is a dying medium”
The increasing popularity of Indie animation begs to differ.
Hazbin Hotel isn’t my type of show. It’s not bad by any means, I just didn’t like it as much as others.
Still though, Vivziepop is a huge inspiration. I hope that I can make something half as good as Hazbin Hotel.
Vivziepop deserves the popularity she received.
Hollywood has undergone many ups and downs, but this one is particularly sad because its reach of abuse and pettiness is greater than arguably ever before. But that has opened up so many possibilities, if even by necessity. Haha!
I agree, I haven't been able to get into Hazbin as much as I did when the pilot episode premiered. Still, Viziepop has earned her place and popularity, and I am so happy to see animation undergoing a surge. And it's shows like Hazbin Hotel that help pave the way for even bigger and better things. :)
And I look forward to tackling the next big problem in a later video. Hopefully... Hopefully I can get that out by the end of the month!
@@camillesharem I look forward to that video.
Hollywood may be falling a bit behind in this race, but that gives us in the back a chance to catch up.
And catching up I am.
I’m making progress in improving my drawing skills much faster than I thought.
A week ago, I tried drawing a person, and I ended up with a weird alien.
And now, while I still can’t draw eyes, and my proportions are still a bit off, my character actually looks human now.
At this rate, I might be able to start animating sooner than expected. Still probably 2-3 years off, but I’ve already gotten offers to help, so maybe a little sooner.
@@Iso20227 That's amazing! I'm so happy to hear that you're making progress and feeling optimistic! :)
Keep up the great work! Hollywood is struggling and there are so many opportunities for all of us! And that's something I hope to touch on more in that next video.
You'll get there in a couple of years pal. I promise ❤
Hollywood has always snubbed animation. I mean it wasn't until 1991 that we even had an animated movie get nominated for best picture outside of best animated movie let alone win best picture. Best animated picture was literally made so that the Oscar's and, by extension, Hollywood could just bush it under the rug as just for children. It's also why some adults get floored when they see an animated show or movie that shows things like blood, gore, death, has swears, etc because they have been fed this belief that if it's animated it's for kids when animation could be for kids, adults, or everyone
Hollywood's message that animation is just for kids runs too deep. Heck, most of the older cartoons were meant to be specifically enjoyed by all ages! Give me back the old Hanna Barbara days...
It's a shame that Hollywood will never give animation it's fair due, which is why I find it appropriate that indie animation is eating their lunch and capturing the younger demographics they say are impossible to hook.
You know the “Animation is a dying medium” statement really baffles me. It practically created a huge part of the Prime Age (the era of awesome shows from the 90s-2010s, as I like to call it😊)
It’s like they ignore all the adults who prefer animation to live action. Nowadays animation doesn’t get the respect it deserves. Especially newer shows.
And the people that complain that Hazbin Hotel is g for kids just make me laugh. It’s like they don’t read the mature warning
Indie animation is finally doing what studio animation was poised to do but never followed up with: push the boundaries!
I agree, 90s to the 2010s is absolutely a golden age of animation and storytelling. The fact that bigwig studios turned their backs on the medium will come back to bite them in the butt. But it's something they don't want to understand. And I think it's because it's a medium that executives cannot as easily control as live action. There's a whole crazy story there! Maybe I'll dive into that in the future.
As for people not paying attention to the mature warning label, it's not that they're lazy. No, it's even worse. Sorry to drag WDW Pro and pals again, but they always say that they just want entertainment to plop their kids in front of and let it babysit them. And then they turn around and complain that children these days aren't raised right... Raise your kids yourselves! Spend that screen time with them! It'll be better that way!
"Animation is a dying medium" ... remind me of how many billions, if not trillions, of dollars the anime industry makes.
Seriously, the US could compete with Japan in terms of animation if it wanted to. It just doesn't want to
True! True! And it all comes back to some of the silliest prejudices towards the medium. I seriously don't understand it.
I fail to understand where any one asked for Hollywood’s opinion. I think it’s popularity speaks for itself, no?
I did have to read for US history class about Mccarthyism destroying a large section of Hollywood that was innovative but that has been 80 years ago and the Cold War ended so I do not know what is stopping Hollywood from hiring new people to introduce new things instead of the same old
I find it very ironic that I'm now hearing more and more that McCarthy was right and that we should bring it back... Dumb people looking for revenge. But Hollywood hasn't had to tighten its belt in two generations, and they are too full of themselves without letting any outside ideas in. As a result, they won't accept that independent animators and storytellers actually have something to contribute to their craft and industry! It's really sad to watch play out.
This is why Hollywood is failing and independent creators are outbeating them.
May we remind them ever since 2020 Hollywood couldn't do live action stuff due to the pandemic, and if it weren't for animation Hollywood would've fallen apart in 2020 with the rest of the studios.
It's like Hollywood isn't even paying attention to reality anymore🙄
They haven't appreciated for years now that animation can be a real saving grace. Animated films don't often make the BIG bucks, which is partly why Hollywood studios snub them. However, consistent, good storied cartoon features draw audiences and provide all kinds of opportunities for revenue outside of the theaters. That's what keeps anime afloat!
Hollywood needs to get that through their heads...
Honestly, Hollywood's formula has pretty much overstated its welcome. It simply cannot keep up with modern times.
“This debate should have been settled with Snow White!” YES! I’m a grown woman and I still find that film charming as heck.
Also it’s interesting that you should bring up how Christians are talking about this show, because as one myself, I see it as a story LOSELY based off of Biblical lore. And while I don’t agree with all of the show’s themes, I don’t really see it as “anti-Christian,” if that makes any sense. Also the characters are neat and the ost SLAPS.
The music is awesome! But also, when it comes to animation, it was the critics of the day when Snow White premiered that said that animation was for everyone! My dad sent me an email a few weeks back about the premiere of Snow White and what critics wrote. Walt Disney would weep to see how people in his own company regard the medium today!
And speaking from a religious and teaching perspective, for more mature Christian viewers, I view Hazbin Hotel as a great teaching opportunity. "Alright, this is what the show draws on from apocryphal writings and lore, but why doesn't it line up with our values and beliefs? How can you respectfully communicate that to others who might have questions?" Throwing up a wall because a show doesn't adhere to your personal values cuts you off from a myriad of opportunities! Granted, this show isn't for everyone, but it really isn't anti-Christian.
@@camillesharem I agree with you! Questioning why something doesn't line up with your own faith is a great way to learn and grow in your faith instead of just blocking it off and not growing at all.
@@Lady_ETHNE I mean most Western media has religious elements/references but that does not make the theme automatically be about religion. Although I do think being exposed to other beliefs and opinions is a good thing otherwise you end up in an echo chamber. I genuinely think Westerners could learn more about non-Abrahamic and other Abrahamic religions through exposing themselves into watching a wider range of media.
I'm not a Christian, but I was raised as one and I find that HH has a lot of very Christian themes with regards to redemption. Charlie is almost a Christlike figure in the HH universe!
Hazbin Hotel is sort of Bible fanfiction, like Jesus Christ Superstar and Dante's Inferno.
Hazbin Hotel is not anti Christian, but anti hypocrisy! If someone feels attacked by that, well... if the shoes fits...
0:03 people on Tv: WHAT HAVE YOU DONE?!?!?
I made you embarrassed to watch this with your parents. Mwahahaha!
I, as well as many, prefer animation as a story telling medium. I hope Viv takes the animation world by storm and rebuilds the medium further.
I don't give up on my creativity. I love creating stories about so many things, but I'm too anxious to actually post any of them (and I don't even know where I should post them).
And also I'm not popular. I still post a few things from time to time, but I'm still nobody. Even if I managed to get past my anxiety and post one of my works, would people care ?
I'm glad that you're still creating despite your anxiety. That is an amazing feat in itself! You don't need to share if you don't want to. There's no rule that states: THOU HAST WRITTEN, THOU SHALT POST AND PUBLISH!
However, if you do want to share your work, there are loads of ways. And yes, your stories will mean something to someone the more you put them and yourself out there. Not everyone will be nice, which is true, but there are a ton of people who will happily read your work and support you. And eventually, you learn to tune out the meanspirited audience members out there and find those who do love your work and those who have good, constructive criticism.
If you want to learn more about that, we can always do a video or live stream that will focus on putting your works out there, the options, and dealing with readers.
@@camillesharem Yes, I do want to post my works. And I don't really care about bad criticism and mean people. I've been facing many mean people in my life, from my toxic parents to bullies, I do my best to not let it affect me.
What I'm worried about is that almost nobody will see it. I'm afraid that these things that I put good amounts of effort would mostly go unnoticed. That my efforts aren't good enough to be noticed. That's what my insecurities are about.
@@Oceane1803 I understand your concerns. I've published 8 books and have only sold a small handful in comparison to all the other authors out there. It's the risk all authors take. The question is, as per Brandon Sanderson, is: If you never sold a single book (or got a single click), would you still want to write?
If the answer is YES, then you keep writing. And eventually, people will come to your work. And that's also part of what I intend to address in the follow up video to this one! Because there are things that you can do that will help get your work out there!
@@camillesharem Yes true but how can I get people interested in my works if I'm too anxious to post them ? It's kind of a weird loop.
@@Oceane1803 The only solution is to post. It's a leap of faith.
But here's an idea that I myself used. Post a story you don't care too much about. That's what I did with my first published book. I wrote a story I wasn't that invested in and published it to get experience. And it was funnily enough well received.
www.amazon.com/Sandwich-Desperadoes-Lars-Jensen-ebook/dp/B08NHQ43YR
Doing something like this can give you good experience and help you confront those fears head on. Other than that, there's no easy solution. Not even handing your work off to others to post under their name. Which kinda defeats the purpose as well, in my opinion.
It looks like all adults who love animation have taken over anime. The Japanese (and Koreans?) Really have a fantasy. And sometimes it can be a stupid trick, and sometimes a philosopher story with a story that literally makes you eat glass. The West makes good animation plots (Claus, Blue Samurai, Arcain, Cyberepan), but these are the products of truly captured authors. Not mouse or Hollywood that want easy fast money * looks at Marvel * (and sneeze that it's really not easy money for those who make these tapes. The main crazy profit)
They do. They ruined it...
Hm, I see, what a disappointing Scenario, I guess we’ll just see how well this goes.
Anyway, i will look forward to your next Video.
Thanks! I hope to make good sense of a situation that isn't very obvious.
@@camillesharem we’ll see.
By the way, did you see my comment on your Murder Drones Episode 7 Review?
Nothing important, just wondering.
@@johanstenfelt1206 I can't recall. It's been wild on my end recently. That's partly why I haven't cranked out a video every other day or even more recently. I know there's a lot that I've missed.
@@camillesharem hm, I see, that’s fair enough.
Still, i would like you to check that Comment out, I am curious to see what you think of what i wrote.
0:04 😭😭
Hahaha!
10/10 video intro
Haha! Thanks!
I'll be frank I liked the pilot but episode 1 killed my interest in the series and based on what I heard about future episodes I was right.
Anyway yeah Hollywood has a weird anti animation hate boner but tbh Hollywood as a whole lacks a lot of "life experience" and are unfamiliar with the universe outside their bubble. Its why all the Elite in entertainment and the media are part of the same club with the same bad takes.
Recently the producer of Kung Fu Panda 4 talked about how executives don't understand the popularity of anime and manga and that something like Spider verse existing is basically a miracle.
Basically like your past indie animation video on Digital Circus its conventional wisdom the teenage to young adult demographic is unreachable.....
Except that's the exact demographic that anime and manga appeals to AKA the thing they don't understand.
Basically Hollywood, Journalist, and Academia like to pretend they are enlightened and oprn minded not like those "bigoted right wingers."
When they are just as close minded but worse because they are trying to position themselves as having an intellectual high ground.
This is why sci fi and fantasy used to be hated by the academic world as not real literature back in the day btw.
Hazbin Hotel is ZZZZZZZZ
Forst?
Yes. Yes you are.
@@camillesharem yoo ain't no way I just got a reply from Lars from novice writers for novice writers.
@@WholeCarrots_ The one and only!
(I got rid of all my clones...)
well vizipop is far from a saint here.
Sainthood is not a prerequisite for art... in fact, it's usually the opposite
@@Wandervenn ?