I have run test cypionate and Primo Depot for 6 years straight through a heart and lung transplant I. 2020 and a kidney transplant this past December. My bloodwork is always spot on and no issues with my new heart which I am scanned and tested yearly with blood work every month. I have a lot of guys doing the same all with positive results. So 250mg week Cyp 150mg Primo at 55 years of age. Eat clean and supplement intelligently. Haven’t not been sick in 6 years except Covid after my first transplant which also speaks volumes of my protocol!
Dude, get off that shit, especially at your age. I'm your age, train hard and do not need anything other than vitamins, minerals and detox/ anti parasitic protocol
I never get tired of that awesome 505 lb bench press in the intro. At age 64 with knee and shoulder injuries, hypertension, and liver problems from my alcoholism, I stopped drinking, started eating clean. I started weight training and was taking Sustenon (200 mg/wk), Deca (150 mg/wk), and 20 mg of Dbol daily along with lots of Tudca for liver support. After 3 years I gained 15 pounds of muscle, lost 50 pounds of fat, and literally tripled my strength. My body is completely transformed. My blood pressure and blood tests are good. I recently dropped the Dbol and now use Sustenon, Anavar (20mg/day) along with Primo (200 mg/wk) and I'm finally getting lean and working on losing the last 15-20 pounds around the middle. This channel is invaluable.
I just got off a cycle of Primobolon 100 with Super Test 350. My Vascularity was off the charts. One of the best combos ever. I also like NPP with Super Test 350.
I'm 52 been juicing ona nd off 30 years ..about to have facet nerve burn block operation this Monday due to damaging it deadlifting and squatting over time ..trainings been no existent cos of the pain and had to learn to walk again with crutches over the last year ..never used primo in my life but planning on recovering and training with 300 test just 150 npp wnd 150 npp for a linger period if time providing all goes well Monday 🤞is 150 primo week enough brother
@@narmypara100 i go off more cc's. i should adjust for concentrstion but I dont. I mix my anabolucs in a 3 ml shot. .6 test 350 with .6 equipise 300 equaling 1.2ccs every 4 days. Thinking about going to microdosing everyday through belly shots.
bump the test up to 150-200mg/wk and the primo increase to almost match the testosterone mg/wk and you will feel amazing and get super strong in the gym. Then go back to cruising your 100mg of Test/wk and you could even drop the primobolan down to 50mg or wtv amount allows you to keep the gains cruising. If 120mg test a week does the job ( and I think it will ) I would cruise with that and remove the primo altogether. These are my favorite 2 compounds and were part of every cycle I ever did in my later years of working out, sometimes adding in a kickstart oral or low dose EQ.
I'm with you there I'm 51. There's no way I'm putting 50 pounds and just getting cock diesel anymore. Never been so lean. Definitely miss the size and super strength. Not the sides that wrecked every good relationship just throwing the kitchen sink at a 5 dollar plastic trophy. 🏆
if your injecting test, why not inject higher doses of test? make your test levels that of a 20 yr old or push them even higher. no reason to do a weak baby dose of 100mg
I ran the combo 150/75 for 17 months. On a huge cut, lost -100+ pounds. Had much better blood markers after 17 months. Also helps with joints. I do feel the estrogen suppression was prevalent. I should have ran more test with it. Japanese medical use is 50-100 mg once a week, so I basically followed that.
@@The_Morepower damn that is next level! I know how hard that must’ve been to lose that much weight. I had lost about 40 lbs and looked and felt great, but then I had a serious injury and ended up losing a foot 😭. I spent 3 years in a wheelchair. I am looking to get back to where I was.
after the cycle how was your blood test? any symptom? how did you feel with good and side effects? i really wanna know cause that cycle it's really interesting
I’m 44 and have been in TRT since Jan 2022. 200 mg a week of prescription testosterone cypionate and 200 mg a week of Primo (100% real), divide into 2 injections, twice weekly. Labs done test only at same dose, and at test + primo at above doses 6 months apart. I introduced the Primo to address gyno. Labs testosterone only, estradiol 56+; painful gyno. Labs post test + primo at doses above, estradiol at 26, gyno subsequently smaller (still there but no longer an issue). Total time on Test and Primo roughly 1 year. With Primo, no hair loss, no change in BP or heart rate, no change in PSA, no organ toxicity whatsoever, very minimal increase in total and free T.
@@Arsenallozz1886 yes, since I last posted, dosed are still same by gyno is virtually gone. Keeps getting smaller but slowly. Not even an issue anymore at all. I suppose the lesson is, be patient. Things take time to work.
@@artshahnazarianesq.6774 that’s excellent mate I’m 33 used to take stuff years ago doing trt but within a week I get sore so it’s very quick going to start running primo with it to help the gyno
The gyno is why i stopped trt. I was on 160mg a week with HCG. The gyno got bad and painful. Embarrassing to have huge nipples like they wanna be milked. So i stopped trt. I wanna get back on it and was suggested to try primo with it to see if it helps. I know i have a high natural prolactin. My E2 was only 42. Thanks for your comment. It helps go ahead and push me to take the plunge and try and see what happens
@@Moss_pitt a key factor to keep in mind is body fat levels. The higher the fat levels, the higher estrogen via more aromatization. Point is, keep your body fat low. Nothing shredded required. Yes, TRT is a nightmare when fat levels are high.
If blood coagulation is a problem, you can use Nattokinase and other systemic enzymes to help with blood flow, keep clots at bay, and also reduce potential fibrosis.
I am on TRT at 175mg/week. I was blasting test tren and anadrol. I am prone to gyno. I am considering adding mast and primo combined to my trt dose. Thank you for this video.
I’m 55 been taking gear for 25 years now a days I get high oestrogen…. So I come to Thailandfor the winter took 300 test for libido and 100 primo after 3 months my blood work was fine oestrogen in the good low range….works for me 👍
Oh dope I was thinking of doing this exact same protocol 125mg test cyp 2x a week primo 50mg once per week . To bad my amps are all 100mg for primo gonna have to pre load syringes
Tell me more please brother man. I’m 29 and I weigh 168 lbs. I’ve been working out for a year and I need a boost man.. by how much percent would you say test/primo boosted your muscle growth?
@brett8074 brother, if you've only been training for 1 year and you're asking CZcams comments what type of doses you should be taking... you need to invest at least another year of really high quality training, sleep, nutrition and research before you think about taking anything. Keep researching the topic for that extra year and it will become clear what types of dosages may be suitable. Most people who have only trained for 1 year still don't know how to even train well, I'm not saying that's true for you, but it likely is. I highly suggest you check out something like Borge Fagerli's new myorep ebook, that will sort your training out nice and quick. While you're still natural, ignore training advice from people like Mike Israetel.
T/P 90/60 a week worked better for me than 150/0. I think people are forgetting the difference between a replacement dose and a cruise. The popular 150/100 is a cruise (or a “sustainable” slow bulk).
It's freaking terrible that you can be an old guy, 65 and up, all the other compounds used in small doses help immensely with test. You are gonna be dead soon anyway so who the F...cares? Why restrictions in something that creates a few strong years later in life if you want to hit weights, be active I don't want to rot in a care home I would embrace a heart attack and death when I am old and useless and can't do anything.
I like learning about add ons for trt especially those that maintain the HPT axis which I feel is important for fertility and adrenal hormone production. So complex, feels like Doc is the only one working on this for men
Primo and a weekly shot of hcg is better than testosterone for men who want a boost without shutdown.Far less suppressive then testosterone and no water retention.More aesthetic physique, no raise in blood pressure and no estrogenic side effects.
@@seanryannyawo3002 the whole point is that this is something you can sustain for the rest of your life,any cycling is lost once stopped.Primo is studied to be well tolerated in humans and for me 150mg gives me the same benefits as 150mg trt test with none of the side effects.
Cool. Are you on TRT or do you PCT? Care to share the doses? I’m close to your age and currently am doing TRT with about 180mg Deca per week and thinking of throwing in some anavar. I used Primo in the 80a and it was amazing.
I have used this combo for years.. I’m 54 and I like this combo a C of test and a1/2 C of primo, I do this once a week. I have to stop when I start getting symptoms of ED, blood thickness to high and reaction with higher blood pressure. I have to do 3 month cycles.
Stacking test is old school and it works. Test and Tren is amazing. We need to know how all of this affects our overall well being. I don’t know any doc who will take the time to help or if any doc really cares about it. Many are not knowledgeable. I’m someone who has been a hawk with my health through the years. I don’t like risks and I check my blood. However, I need to know how this affects my HPT. Wish we could talk. Thanks for your help.
I used (almost 7 years ago) 250 mg of Testosterone Enanthate & 100 mg of Trenbolone acetate bi weekly for 3-4 months. I felt great and looked great. My labs weren't bad...no bad side effects. Maybe a bit aggressive, but thats what weights are for. Any thoughts?
It does actually block estrogen! Very cool drug. In my case on 400test only, my estrogen was 550. Added in 200 primo. Blood test 1 month later, estrogen was 300. Still not the best but it dropped 250 points!
@@atalasstefano62 why would you say that? It did actually lower my e2. I know some dht derivatives like masteron can do that too and allot of primo is fake but not necessarily. i got mine from a reputable dutch source.
@@jman71890 Yeah bro! guess i just aromatize allot. we're all different and we are susceptible to side effects differently. I will for instance not lose my hair quickly but will have to watch myself for gyno & acne around my shoulders and back. it is what it izzz
@Bryan Utility ya I'm confused on that one myself..Vigorous Steve always tours how u don't want lower shbg too much..Yet DR Testosterone aka George Touliatos always tours proviron to lower shbg..
Tnx Doc you just made my day! We appreciate your knowledge your effort and all that education your are sharing with us! Your work is amazing We all are very grateful! Tnx again Doc!
I crashed my E2 with primo a couple years ago confirmed with bloodwork. It definitely works as an aromatase inhibitor for me personally. Granted I was using a trt dose of test at 150mg and primo at 600. Seemed to be a common approach over in Europe but next time I would definitely run my test higher, at least a 1:1 to start. One thing is for sure, I was still pretty full even with estrogen in the gutter, shoulders especially had a different look to them. Looking forward to trying it again. Currently trying EQ for the first time. Trying to prevent crashed estrogen so I just started a couple weeks ago at 750 test & 500 EQ. Lots of bloodwork on Reddit showing equipoise having A.I. properties as well.. gonna see how this goes!
@Spectacular Spectacular I started to have E.D. which then I knew for sure it was tanked but got the bloods to confirm. I immediately dropped the primo, upped the test (enanthate) to 500 and ran some hcg. I wanna say around 3 weeks later everything downstairs started acting normal again. Been fine ever since. Just make sure if you run Primo or EQ that you have some dbol, hcg, test prop, or MENT to get your e2 back up in a quick manner & you’ll be fine. Don’t be afraid to use the compounds, just make sure you run a 1:1 or have your test higher and you should be good to go!
That actually isn't a huge problem nowadays. Most of the blind lab test I have seen on primo from reputable labs has been pretty good over the last couple of years.
Years ago, in the early 90's, I would cross the border into Tijuana & get real ampules of Primobolan by Schering labs. 1cc ampules I believe....the problem was it was still not cheap, and even though I was a hyper-responder to the drugs, I needed to inject it daily to get good results. I can't remember the strength, but I considered it a very mild drug compared to Sustenon250, & even Deca, which came in preloaded glass syringes in Mexico at that time. Those were a few of the real drugs back then.💯🙋🙏
@@tmackn6592 It depends if you have an original or a fake. After last year's fiasco, balkan withdrew from the production of everything except testosterone and what is currently on the market is fake. Some work, some not because people impersonate this company
Hi Doc, Running test and primo at pretty much a 1:1 dose, I have zero need for an AI, even when pushing the testosterone doses to numbers you don’t wanna know about!!
INTERESTING ... DO YOU HAVE A VIDEO ABOUT PROMOBOLAN + WINSTROL? -- AND -- WHAT IS THE BEST AND HEALTHY DRY & CUT COMBO? BLESS YOUR HEART FOR A PRO-ANSWER (AS ALWAYS) :D
Im looking at doing this cycle , my personal trainer has said a dose of 400-600mg of test cyp and 200-300mg of primo is what guys usually do, is this a good starting point. ?
Primo will give you more lean muscle. Proviron is more of an add on, it enhances the Test. Primo is very expensive, easily the most expensive PED. Proviron is cheap. Both Primo and Proviron will nuke your hair if your prone to male pattern baldness. Primo and Masteron are #1 and #2 for hair loss. Proviron isn't too far behind. One thing the doc doesn't address is that Primo is mainly used by guys with low body fat. If you are above 15% BF, there isn't much reason to use Primo, you'd be better off upping your Test amount or adding in Proviron instead. If you are lean, Primo is great. With a good diet, Test + Primo can put on solid lean mass.
Sust - Primo cycle is great. So is Test Cyp/Primo. If your new to Susta250. Warm the ampule up before pinning. The prop in it can be a real bitch the following 72 hrs or even more, especially if you shoot it too fast, you'll be in a whole lot of hurt if you do, trust me 😂 Some people cut it with sterile grapeseed oil. Is how painful this shit can get. If you already know. Then good luck! ✌️
30 years ago my cycle was primo sestanon and decca total 2200mg a week my best gains was that cycle no side effects today I take 400mg of delatestryl 200mg its pretty good
Started half ml of cyp then ml of primo 8monthes ago stopped the primo three months ago stopped cyp for a month back on it now no sore nipples at that level. Feel ok but should go get blood checked. I’m 67.
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I have been using topical prescription mono/finasteride while on test/primo/anavar and on TRT. I should have started it sooner. It works. Completely stops loss and actually reverses it somewhat. It works if you use it correctly. Absolutely. My hair looks great.
iam 59 using 100mlg of primo or masteron a week plus 125 test a week and what he saying is 100% ..also i have to mention i dont see any difference in anything the weeks i use masteron compare with the weeks i use primo,i can still train 3 days a week plus my hit cardio on a rougue bike once a week
Exactly. I often see people running 600mg's a week or higher. Lot of comments mentioning taking low doses around 100-200mg. Im considering adding primo to my trt and would probably run it 16 weeks and start low and slowly ramp it up as the weeks pass. Currently using 200mg test cypionate but will bump that up to 350-400mg. Might throw in an oral like Anavar but still doing my research. All trial and error anyway since everyone responds differently.
My estrogen crashed to 64 (normal I think is 400) after four month cycle of Primo and Test. 2 to 1 ratio of primo to test. Maybe next time I should shoot more test.
I'm getting ready to start a primo to supplement my trt. I'm currently 200mg/wk I've started to bump it to 300mg/wk. Would I be ok q starting a 2 to 1 test to primo? I'm 45, in good health, have a pcd and a urologist. All vitals are wnl. All blood panels are wnl. This is the 1st time I'll be using anything other than test. What say you?
The key to this is primo binding to SHBG On half cc test and half cc primo 2x week .. free test was 2180 All other markers were not perfect obviously but not a concern .. been doing this for more than 2 years ..
For the last year I’ve been on switching between 150mg Test E. and 100 mg Primobolan or 150mg Test E. and 100mg Masteron. No plans on coming off. Feel great
@@XFader505 devil is in the dose .. if you’re not gonna add something intelligent don’t comment. Oh wait, you’re one of the 99.9% of people out there who don’t know what they’re talking about? You know what else causes health issues including arteriosclerosis? Being lazy has-been with no sex drive… (the vast majority of men as they age) ..when your wife ends up doinking some young/fit dude and you live with the depression of losing half your shit in the divorce.. well, let’s just say all the other bad habits and stress that come with that depression/anger a lot worse than keeping yourself feeling great and going to the gym on a low dose of gear. There’s lots of things that affect your health. One of the biggest contributing factors to health decline in fitness is the large amount of calories that people taking especially high carbohydrate foods, which fall in line with the diets that were most common when all the steroid studies of the past we’re done …don’t make blanket statement without context. Also note that most steroids are in inflammatory seed oils and not MCT oil, however is becoming more and more common to use MCT oil with which long-term will reduce the negative side effects of high omega, six etc.. way too much to get into here
test cyp split twice a week ..below is total per week ... 1st month 100mg 2nd month 200mg 6 months 250mg 6 weeks 300 mg very little happening I'm now going to 400mg per week let's see how we go ANY ADVICE
I have run test cypionate and Primo Depot for 6 years straight through a heart and lung transplant I. 2020 and a kidney transplant this past December. My bloodwork is always spot on and no issues with my new heart which I am scanned and tested yearly with blood work every month. I have a lot of guys doing the same all with positive results. So 250mg week Cyp 150mg Primo at 55 years of age. Eat clean and supplement intelligently. Haven’t not been sick in 6 years except Covid after my first transplant which also speaks volumes of my protocol!
Bro..why did you need organ transplants??
Dude, get off that shit, especially at your age. I'm your age, train hard and do not need anything other than vitamins, minerals and detox/ anti parasitic protocol
I never get tired of that awesome 505 lb bench press in the intro. At age 64 with knee and shoulder injuries, hypertension, and liver problems from my alcoholism, I stopped drinking, started eating clean. I started weight training and was taking Sustenon (200 mg/wk), Deca (150 mg/wk), and 20 mg of Dbol daily along with lots of Tudca for liver support. After 3 years I gained 15 pounds of muscle, lost 50 pounds of fat, and literally tripled my strength. My body is completely transformed. My blood pressure and blood tests are good. I recently dropped the Dbol and now use Sustenon, Anavar (20mg/day) along with Primo (200 mg/wk) and I'm finally getting lean and working on losing the last 15-20 pounds around the middle. This channel is invaluable.
You need some friends. Anybody that goes on the Internet telling their personal business is lonely
@@Vforfreedom anybody who criticizes a 64 yr old man is a soy boy and hangs out too long in Planet Fitness locker room….be a man and STFU
You have liver problems and take Anavar? Wouldn't that make your issue worse. Orals are liver toxic.
Thank you brother 🙏. Try to come on the Man2Man meetings, so I can help you with my medical information. Also, say thank you in person. Dr O
@@Vforfreedom obviously he's feeling good and he's secure in himself that he doesn't mind sharing his progress. Why bash the guy?
I just got off a cycle of Primobolon 100 with Super Test 350. My Vascularity was off the charts. One of the best combos ever. I also like NPP with Super Test 350.
I'm 52 been juicing ona nd off 30 years ..about to have facet nerve burn block operation this Monday due to damaging it deadlifting and squatting over time ..trainings been no existent cos of the pain and had to learn to walk again with crutches over the last year ..never used primo in my life but planning on recovering and training with 300 test just 150 npp wnd 150 npp for a linger period if time providing all goes well Monday 🤞is 150 primo week enough brother
@@narmypara100 i go off more cc's. i should adjust for concentrstion but I dont. I mix my anabolucs in a 3 ml shot. .6 test 350 with .6 equipise 300 equaling 1.2ccs every 4 days. Thinking about going to microdosing everyday through belly shots.
100 mg of test
80 mg of primo
I feel fantastic. Im 41 so im chasing feeling younger rather than trying to look like a greek god.
bump the test up to 150-200mg/wk and the primo increase to almost match the testosterone mg/wk and you will feel amazing and get super strong in the gym. Then go back to cruising your 100mg of Test/wk and you could even drop the primobolan down to 50mg or wtv amount allows you to keep the gains cruising. If 120mg test a week does the job ( and I think it will ) I would cruise with that and remove the primo altogether. These are my favorite 2 compounds and were part of every cycle I ever did in my later years of working out, sometimes adding in a kickstart oral or low dose EQ.
I'm with you there I'm 51. There's no way I'm putting 50 pounds and just getting cock diesel anymore. Never been so lean. Definitely miss the size and super strength. Not the sides that wrecked every good relationship just throwing the kitchen sink at a 5 dollar plastic trophy. 🏆
@@bobz4968there's TRT clinics
Bump up that test please.
if your injecting test, why not inject higher doses of test? make your test levels that of a 20 yr old or push them even higher. no reason to do a weak baby dose of 100mg
I ran the combo 150/75 for 17 months. On a huge cut, lost -100+ pounds. Had much better blood markers after 17 months. Also helps with joints. I do feel the estrogen suppression was prevalent. I should have ran more test with it. Japanese medical use is 50-100 mg once a week, so I basically followed that.
Congrats on losing 100 lbs! That is freaking awesome! Looking to lose about 40 lbs myself.
@@markkicksass2448 thanks, total was -170 by the end.
@@The_Morepower damn that is next level! I know how hard that must’ve been to lose that much weight. I had lost about 40 lbs and looked and felt great, but then I had a serious injury and ended up losing a foot 😭. I spent 3 years in a wheelchair. I am looking to get back to where I was.
@Spectacular Spectacular yes
@@markkicksass2448 Keep at it and never give up!
Too bad that Methenolone has been drawn off the market, Primo = less acnee, less water retention, better mood & libido !
Keep up the good work Doc
Not for everyone
Ugl's have legit lab tested products.
I did this stack about ten years back. I didn't get huge but I kept most of those gains and I was very strong on the gear.
@Spectacular Spectacular I was doing a gram of test and 600mg of Primo. Felt great and super strong. The Primo helped with estrogen.
@Spectacular Spectacular 14 weeks.
@@uncountedvoter9449 libido increase with primo?
after the cycle how was your blood test? any symptom? how did you feel with good and side effects? i really wanna know cause that cycle it's really interesting
@@CarecaRusso Any cycle with test increases libido, so yes.
I’m 44 and have been in TRT since Jan 2022. 200 mg a week of prescription testosterone cypionate and 200 mg a week of Primo (100% real), divide into 2 injections, twice weekly. Labs done test only at same dose, and at test + primo at above doses 6 months apart.
I introduced the Primo to address gyno. Labs testosterone only, estradiol 56+; painful gyno. Labs post test + primo at doses above, estradiol at 26, gyno subsequently smaller (still there but no longer an issue). Total time on Test and Primo roughly 1 year.
With Primo, no hair loss, no change in BP or heart rate, no change in PSA, no organ toxicity whatsoever, very minimal increase in total and free T.
Did you find it helped stop gyno?
@@Arsenallozz1886 yes, since I last posted, dosed are still same by gyno is virtually gone. Keeps getting smaller but slowly. Not even an issue anymore at all. I suppose the lesson is, be patient. Things take time to work.
@@artshahnazarianesq.6774 that’s excellent mate I’m 33 used to take stuff years ago doing trt but within a week I get sore so it’s very quick going to start running primo with it to help the gyno
The gyno is why i stopped trt. I was on 160mg a week with HCG.
The gyno got bad and painful. Embarrassing to have huge nipples like they wanna be milked. So i stopped trt.
I wanna get back on it and was suggested to try primo with it to see if it helps. I know i have a high natural prolactin.
My E2 was only 42.
Thanks for your comment. It helps go ahead and push me to take the plunge and try and see what happens
@@Moss_pitt a key factor to keep in mind is body fat levels. The higher the fat levels, the higher estrogen via more aromatization. Point is, keep your body fat low. Nothing shredded required. Yes, TRT is a nightmare when fat levels are high.
If blood coagulation is a problem, you can use Nattokinase and other systemic enzymes to help with blood flow, keep clots at bay, and also reduce potential fibrosis.
How much Natto daily?
I am on TRT at 175mg/week. I was blasting test tren and anadrol. I am prone to gyno. I am considering adding mast and primo combined to my trt dose. Thank you for this video.
Keep up the good work doc !! Knowledge and harm mitigation is golden for everyone on trt or steroids thanks
Test, Primo and Deca = Magic
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Haven’t stacked all 3 but I prefer Nandrolone Phenylproprianate over Nandrolone Decanate. The NPP feels stronger than Deca.
Test, boldenon, primo
Are there doctors that prescribe it? How is it obtained?
@@bobz4968mostly attained through unregulated sources. I am guilty of it as well. I get it from a friend.
I’m 55 been taking gear for 25 years now a days I get high oestrogen…. So I come to Thailandfor the winter took 300 test for libido and 100 primo after 3 months my blood work was fine oestrogen in the good low range….works for me 👍
25 years? How it's going? No even one side effect? And what 100mg of Primo done to you?
How are you liking Thailand?
Did it help with the sex?
@@Native_love yes like being in my early 20’s again
@@CarecaRusso get your primo right no need for AI,s
Just discovered your channel it’s amazing, I was looking for some info on primo and this is by far the best video I’ve found.
I’m 26 and running Test 350 with Primo 200. Just seeing what would the best way to start dosing for each jab?
Do half a ml of each, twice a week
Goodness Doc you are so underrated and I don't do any anabolics, but gosh this is some good info and very interesting! Great work!
I'm sensitive to dht stimulatory effects so I do 250 test E and 50 primo
What you mean by "sensitive"? What you feel?
Oh dope I was thinking of doing this exact same protocol 125mg test cyp 2x a week primo 50mg once per week . To bad my amps are all 100mg for primo gonna have to pre load syringes
@canalzinhorusso I get joint issues my estrogen is low all the time any way
@@stevencoughlin343does the low estrogen decrease your libido?
Both are very safe
Ive been running a cycle of Test/Primo and I can honestly say its amazing. Zero sides and the muscular development is amazing
Tell me more please brother man. I’m 29 and I weigh 168 lbs. I’ve been working out for a year and I need a boost man.. by how much percent would you say test/primo boosted your muscle growth?
@brett8074 I've gained about 10 lbs of muscle but the hardness and the AI attributes are where Primo shines. For me anyways.
@@Blackshirtsguru what do you mean by AI my friend?
@@Blackshirtsguru by the way , you said there are 0 sides? How much do you think I can run?
@brett8074 brother, if you've only been training for 1 year and you're asking CZcams comments what type of doses you should be taking... you need to invest at least another year of really high quality training, sleep, nutrition and research before you think about taking anything. Keep researching the topic for that extra year and it will become clear what types of dosages may be suitable. Most people who have only trained for 1 year still don't know how to even train well, I'm not saying that's true for you, but it likely is. I highly suggest you check out something like Borge Fagerli's new myorep ebook, that will sort your training out nice and quick. While you're still natural, ignore training advice from people like Mike Israetel.
T/P 90/60 a week worked better for me than 150/0. I think people are forgetting the difference between a replacement dose and a cruise. The popular 150/100 is a cruise (or a “sustainable” slow bulk).
Men open guys don’t cruise on less than 250 test + an anabolic
Bulking with primo..........
I am on 100mg T, 90 mg primo, and 60mg npp for joints. Straight T is a nightmare for aromatase and along list of estrogenic problems
@@01swaincoare you still running this stack? How is it going?
It's freaking terrible that you can be an old guy, 65 and up, all the other compounds used in small doses help immensely with test.
You are gonna be dead soon anyway so who the F...cares? Why restrictions in something that creates a few strong years later in life if you want to hit weights, be active
I don't want to rot in a care home
I would embrace a heart attack and death when I am old and useless and can't do anything.
I think you can use dhea to increase e2 if it crashes from primo
I like learning about add ons for trt especially those that maintain the HPT axis which I feel is important for fertility and adrenal hormone production. So complex, feels like Doc is the only one working on this for men
@vigoroussteve
Thanks Doc you answered allot of questions I had. T135/P100 feeling good and healthy and strong. Think quality is good Keifie Legend 🙏💪
My Dr gave me testeron primabolan and deca in the 90s, only 6 months, felt great
What was your doses on those? Did you keep the record
Primo and a weekly shot of hcg is better than testosterone for men who want a boost without shutdown.Far less suppressive then testosterone and no water retention.More aesthetic physique, no raise in blood pressure and no estrogenic side effects.
HCG blows my estrogen up at 500x2 per week. I have the bloods to prove it.
How long would you run this for ?
Year round at 150mg a week,only Bayer primo
@@surplusstock8778 thanks. What do you think of 12 week cycles how many mgs would I do hypothetically? I ask because I travel with work a lot. Thanks
@@seanryannyawo3002 the whole point is that this is something you can sustain for the rest of your life,any cycling is lost once stopped.Primo is studied to be well tolerated in humans and for me 150mg gives me the same benefits as 150mg trt test with none of the side effects.
(WOW) some scary stuff. Im cycling Test with primo at a low dose at this time. Thank u Doc for all the info. Your the Best. ❤
My stack for years has been deca , primo , test E , arimadex , a dash of d ball and Winnie on and off season
Lean mass for 30 years
@Pete 53 I started lifting weights when I was 12 competed for 10
Years
Cool. Are you on TRT or do you PCT? Care to share the doses? I’m close to your age and currently am doing TRT with about 180mg Deca per week and thinking of throwing in some anavar. I used Primo in the 80a and it was amazing.
Malakia if you ask me bro! 😂
@@13Ambro Deca is amazing but recently I suspected it wrecked my libido. I switched to tren.
@@georgiafan6618bro decided something was too toxic and decides to switch to the MOST toxic lol. How the hell has tren been less toxic for you?😂
Love this was thinking of trying this combo glad u made this video!
Did u try this combo?
I have used this combo for years.. I’m 54 and I like this combo a C of test and a1/2 C of primo, I do this once a week. I have to stop when I start getting symptoms of ED, blood thickness to high and reaction with higher blood pressure. I have to do 3 month cycles.
Why do you get ED?
What it is ED, i don't know
@@chrisutah9137 erectally disfunction.
@@chrisutah9137 erectile dysfunction
@@chrisutah9137 pee pee not working lol
Stacking test is old school and it works. Test and Tren is amazing. We need to know how all of this affects our overall well being. I don’t know any doc who will take the time to help or if any doc really cares about it. Many are not knowledgeable. I’m someone who has been a hawk with my health through the years. I don’t like risks and I check my blood. However, I need to know how this affects my HPT. Wish we could talk. Thanks for your help.
I used (almost 7 years ago) 250 mg of Testosterone Enanthate & 100 mg of Trenbolone acetate bi weekly for 3-4 months. I felt great and looked great. My labs weren't bad...no bad side effects. Maybe a bit aggressive, but thats what weights are for. Any thoughts?
@Spectacular Spectacular great input man. truly spectacular
What's age are u 🤔
It does actually block estrogen! Very cool drug. In my case on 400test only, my estrogen was 550. Added in 200 primo. Blood test 1 month later, estrogen was 300. Still not the best but it dropped 250 points!
LOL you’re a stick figure!!
Just means the primo u got was fake, was probs mast
550? What the fuck
@@atalasstefano62 why would you say that? It did actually lower my e2. I know some dht derivatives like masteron can do that too and allot of primo is fake but not necessarily. i got mine from a reputable dutch source.
@@jman71890 Yeah bro! guess i just aromatize allot. we're all different and we are susceptible to side effects differently. I will for instance not lose my hair quickly but will have to watch myself for gyno & acne around my shoulders and back. it is what it izzz
I'm interested in what you think about the combination of growth hormone and primabolan ?
Doc, can you do Testosterone + Masteron as well please?
We did it a while back: czcams.com/video/iRryVzIBs0w/video.html
I'm on 210mg of test cyp/wk. Will have my bloods done at 10 weeks, and then I'm going to add primo and see its effects on my E2. Will report back.
Primo excels in male pattern baldness and hair loss far better than what it gives back in return.
And fina gave us ED but people still use it. A lot of men do.
@@CarecaRussoFina sides affect a small amount of people. If you are on TRT and have DHT you’re straight.
Doesn’t SHBG transport testosterone into cells? It has some function that you need right?
@Bryan Utility ya I'm confused on that one myself..Vigorous Steve always tours how u don't want lower shbg too much..Yet DR Testosterone aka George Touliatos always tours proviron to lower shbg..
@@flow2tech “lower” doesn’t mean anything to me. I don’t know what is being stated biochemically.
Tnx Doc you just made my day! We appreciate your knowledge your effort and all that education your are sharing with us! Your work is amazing We all are very grateful! Tnx again Doc!
Thank you brother!! I’m always working for good men like you! Happy you enjoyed this special video. Dr O
I crashed my E2 with primo a couple years ago confirmed with bloodwork. It definitely works as an aromatase inhibitor for me personally. Granted I was using a trt dose of test at 150mg and primo at 600. Seemed to be a common approach over in Europe but next time I would definitely run my test higher, at least a 1:1 to start. One thing is for sure, I was still pretty full even with estrogen in the gutter, shoulders especially had a different look to them. Looking forward to trying it again. Currently trying EQ for the first time. Trying to prevent crashed estrogen so I just started a couple weeks ago at 750 test & 500 EQ. Lots of bloodwork on Reddit showing equipoise having A.I. properties as well.. gonna see how this goes!
I ran 500 sustanon 500 eq for months on end and had zero estrogenic issues. Hopefully you have no issues!
@@vincesza8464 good to hear man!
@Spectacular Spectacular I started to have E.D. which then I knew for sure it was tanked but got the bloods to confirm. I immediately dropped the primo, upped the test (enanthate) to 500 and ran some hcg. I wanna say around 3 weeks later everything downstairs started acting normal again. Been fine ever since. Just make sure if you run Primo or EQ that you have some dbol, hcg, test prop, or MENT to get your e2 back up in a quick manner & you’ll be fine. Don’t be afraid to use the compounds, just make sure you run a 1:1 or have your test higher and you should be good to go!
Watch your red blood cells , polycythemia on EQ
@@odie404 you still run hcg with trt?
Can it be done in South Africa aswel?
The problem with Primo has always been getting the real deal and not some B rated drug
That actually isn't a huge problem nowadays. Most of the blind lab test I have seen on primo from reputable labs has been pretty good over the last couple of years.
Years ago, in the early 90's, I would cross the border into Tijuana & get real ampules of Primobolan by Schering labs. 1cc ampules I believe....the problem was it was still not cheap, and even though I was a hyper-responder to the drugs, I needed to inject it daily to get good results. I can't remember the strength, but I considered it a very mild drug compared to Sustenon250, & even Deca, which came in preloaded glass syringes in Mexico at that time. Those were a few of the real drugs back then.💯🙋🙏
I've heard there's a company in Moldova who's making legit stuff.
@@Daniel_Lav everything Balkan makes is legit
@@tmackn6592 It depends if you have an original or a fake.
After last year's fiasco, balkan withdrew from the production of everything except testosterone and what is currently on the market is fake.
Some work, some not because people impersonate this company
I really appreciate your videos I will be looking to talk with through the app!!!
My best is Test with a kickstart of D-Bol
Great video Doc .. looking vascular ..
its the best combo it keeps sides away from test.... 2:1 ratio is great primo to testosteron it keeps estrogen in check
VERY helpful and informative - thank you!
Do I need any supplements or anything when dropping back down to a cruise ?
OK 1.5-1 but what frequency? Daily/ Weekly?
Hi Doc,
Running test and primo at pretty much a 1:1 dose, I have zero need for an AI, even when pushing the testosterone doses to numbers you don’t wanna know about!!
Awesome work Doc.
INTERESTING ... DO YOU HAVE A VIDEO ABOUT PROMOBOLAN + WINSTROL? -- AND -- WHAT IS THE BEST AND HEALTHY DRY & CUT COMBO? BLESS YOUR HEART FOR A PRO-ANSWER (AS ALWAYS) :D
Primo best drug I love it just so damn expensive you gotta run a lot of it for good results
350test cyp 200primo and always gad good lean gains and no sides , run fur 20wks max
From the UK, what's the best place to get test and primo? And what's the lowest dose worth taking? Or where can I get bloodwork done?
Thanks for all the great videos. Question on the app, is it on Google playstore?
Thanks doc for all you do
Been considering buying primo and trying it in place of anastrozole
My second cycle after one year break. Test prop and primo. Recommended dose ? 30y old, 6ft, 85kg with 12%bf.
Awesome & very informative Doc 👍🏻
Im looking at doing this cycle , my personal trainer has said a dose of 400-600mg of test cyp and 200-300mg of primo is what guys usually do, is this a good starting point. ?
Im on 500 test 300 prmio
@@devonspain620how is it? I was told 1:1 example, 500 test / 500 primo
Do you have a basics video that covers terminology and a fundamental understanding to grasp your videos?
78k views on this video. WAAAAY more than any other videos recently. Tells you how many dudes have heard about this stack.
What's the downside to use masteron instead?
so can you use finasteride with test and premo to counter the hair loss ??
You mentioned proviron at one point. Is there any advantage primo has over proviron? They both seem pretty sustainable.
Primo will give you more lean muscle. Proviron is more of an add on, it enhances the Test. Primo is very expensive, easily the most expensive PED. Proviron is cheap. Both Primo and Proviron will nuke your hair if your prone to male pattern baldness. Primo and Masteron are #1 and #2 for hair loss. Proviron isn't too far behind. One thing the doc doesn't address is that Primo is mainly used by guys with low body fat. If you are above 15% BF, there isn't much reason to use Primo, you'd be better off upping your Test amount or adding in Proviron instead. If you are lean, Primo is great. With a good diet, Test + Primo can put on solid lean mass.
I always read about primo being used at double or higher the amount of testosterone
Great Video Doc!
Would Primo stack well with Sust and NPP
Sust - Primo cycle is great. So is Test Cyp/Primo. If your new to Susta250. Warm the ampule up before pinning. The prop in it can be a real bitch the following 72 hrs or even more, especially if you shoot it too fast, you'll be in a whole lot of hurt if you do, trust me 😂 Some people cut it with sterile grapeseed oil. Is how painful this shit can get. If you already know. Then good luck! ✌️
500mg test ❤
400mg primo ❤
400mg NPP ❤
30 years ago my cycle was primo sestanon and decca total 2200mg a week my best gains was that cycle no side effects today I take 400mg of delatestryl 200mg its pretty good
400ml of 200mg you mean ?
@@JetMan35 no 2200 mg a week split between them Monday Wednesday Friday to get the strength I needed that cycle is a joke today
I'd luv to try primo but where I source it it's dosed probably and as you can imagine it's not cheap!
Good job
Started half ml of cyp then ml of primo 8monthes ago stopped the primo three months ago stopped cyp for a month back on it now no sore nipples at that level. Feel ok but should go get blood checked. I’m 67.
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If it is real hard to get real stuff you are so right
Does anavar increase rbc and hemocrit as well??
I call it cream 😋Test stacked with Primobolan + HGH....slow and steady growth...
Test e or test c w primo?
Guessing test e is best ?
TNX brother
Hunter has the best
Would finasteride/minoxidil prevent/counteract the hair loss?
I have been using topical prescription mono/finasteride while on test/primo/anavar and on TRT. I should have started it sooner. It works. Completely stops loss and actually reverses it somewhat.
It works if you use it correctly. Absolutely. My hair looks great.
Have thay advised in the last 20 years
iam 59 using 100mlg of primo or masteron a week plus 125 test a week and what he saying is 100% ..also i have to mention i dont see any difference in anything the weeks i use masteron compare with the weeks i use primo,i can still train 3 days a week plus my hit cardio on a rougue bike once a week
How are your bloods on that regime and how long have you run it? Other tips?
Where do u buy Primo
I don't think that most people who run test and primo together are doing that low of a dose like you suggested just my opinion
Certainly not a young guy.
Exactly. I often see people running 600mg's a week or higher. Lot of comments mentioning taking low doses around 100-200mg. Im considering adding primo to my trt and would probably run it 16 weeks and start low and slowly ramp it up as the weeks pass. Currently using 200mg test cypionate but will bump that up to 350-400mg. Might throw in an oral like Anavar but still doing my research. All trial and error anyway since everyone responds differently.
My estrogen crashed to 64 (normal I think is 400) after four month cycle of Primo and Test. 2 to 1 ratio of primo to test. Maybe next time I should shoot more test.
I'm getting ready to start a primo to supplement my trt. I'm currently 200mg/wk I've started to bump it to 300mg/wk. Would I be ok q starting a 2 to 1 test to primo? I'm 45, in good health, have a pcd and a urologist. All vitals are wnl. All blood panels are wnl. This is the 1st time I'll be using anything other than test. What say you?
It is my favorite comb primo and test. 700mg Primo/test ea per week sweetspot.
Would you rather have an individual with reasonable blood word and low T on 200-250 Test E alone, or on the 150 test E and 100 Promo?
What are your thoughts on TRT with Deca long term? Thank you for all your research and info! Great stuff.
@spectacularspectacular1856 For what reasons?
@spectacularspectacular1856 Ok, I can see that. Thank you for explaining that!
@@TheZEROFEAR66 use masteron or primo. Forget deca/tren. And even finasteride.
Doc if you could reach out to me if you get this post. I would like to work closely with you if possible. For medical science sir only
Hey doc question, is it possible, estrogen converts in the tissues, and doesn't show up in blood work?
I just ordered some from high-tech labs or something like that and I take androgen gel so I'll see how this works
Following.
The key to this is primo binding to SHBG On half cc test and half cc primo 2x week .. free test was 2180 All other markers were not perfect obviously but not a concern .. been doing this for more than 2 years ..
Not your free test.... No way. Total test maybe. But even that seems too high
Whats DHT BLOCKER. I don't even know if I'm saying that right . Is it for ur hair
For the last year I’ve been on switching between 150mg Test E. and 100 mg Primobolan or 150mg Test E. and 100mg Masteron. No plans on coming off. Feel great
Which do you like better? Mast or primo?
This is great half cc test half cc primo for 2 years now .. bloods were great considering.. free test is the money on this combo ..
Until you realize that constant running of masteron or primo cause arteriosclerosis....
@@XFader505 devil is in the dose .. if you’re not gonna add something intelligent don’t comment. Oh wait, you’re one of the 99.9% of people out there who don’t know what they’re talking about? You know what else causes health issues including arteriosclerosis? Being lazy has-been with no sex drive… (the vast majority of men as they age) ..when your wife ends up doinking some young/fit dude and you live with the depression of losing half your shit in the divorce.. well, let’s just say all the other bad habits and stress that come with that depression/anger a lot worse than keeping yourself feeling great and going to the gym on a low dose of gear. There’s lots of things that affect your health. One of the biggest contributing factors to health decline in fitness is the large amount of calories that people taking especially high carbohydrate foods, which fall in line with the diets that were most common when all the steroid studies of the past we’re done …don’t make blanket statement without context. Also note that most steroids are in inflammatory seed oils and not MCT oil, however is becoming more and more common to use MCT oil with which long-term will reduce the negative side effects of high omega, six etc.. way too much to get into here
@@LemonmilkMusic hey sir. How is going with masteron added? Can you explain what are the benefics? Libido increase, I guess? Thanks!
You no how people always so 150 / 100 what does that mean if your test is 250mg what’s that mean in mls when injecting
Is it ok for me take 350mg (test e) n 100mg (primo) in a week?…does my primo dosage too low? Or how the ratio?
test cyp split twice a week ..below is total per week ...
1st month 100mg
2nd month 200mg
6 months 250mg
6 weeks 300 mg
very little happening
I'm now going to 400mg per week let's see how we go
ANY ADVICE
Hi
can you get primo from a trt clinic in the USA?
Is this test kit available in Australia ?
So I’m on 200mg of test per week per dr. Script. Sometimes I take only 100mg of test and 100mg of masteron. It seems to really boost up my libido
It boosts your libido? How?