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  • Nick Wright and Chris Broussard explore whether Stephen Curry is one of the top 10 greatest NBA players of all time after leading the Golden State Warriors to their 6th Finals in 8 seasons. Watch as the two take a look at Steph's legacy, his impact on the game of basketball, and what it would mean for him should the Warriors bring a Championship to Golden State this year.
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  • @FirstThingsFirst
    @FirstThingsFirst  Před 2 lety +1

    Listen to Out of Character: sprtspod.fox/OOC

    • @MegaOrr
      @MegaOrr Před 2 lety

      Walker wishes he was steph the way he played, but goodbye to respecting his opinion. No way he can name 30 better than steph

    • @constancerobinson6108
      @constancerobinson6108 Před 2 lety +1

      This

    • @constancerobinson6108
      @constancerobinson6108 Před 2 lety

      This walker dude needs to shut his face, what does he mean 30 where the freak did you get that number from did you pull it out of your waxy ears you need to take a seat in the back and be quiet because you obviously don't know what you're talking about.

    • @jameswilson9121
      @jameswilson9121 Před 2 lety +1

      3-1 vs lebron finals gonna have more rings than him when he retires

  • @hiderz
    @hiderz Před 2 lety +397

    Antawns take was nothing short of insane

    • @ryanliu1070
      @ryanliu1070 Před 2 lety +19

      That explains that he went broke

    • @user-xv1sr3uy7p
      @user-xv1sr3uy7p Před 2 lety +25

      It’s so funny seeing everyone’s reaction when he gives his take😭😂😂. Walker is a straight up hater for real even more than nick wright

    • @mattharnett8927
      @mattharnett8927 Před 2 lety +2

      @@user-xv1sr3uy7p ya this is nuts whoa!

    • @yahiaali4059
      @yahiaali4059 Před 2 lety +6

      He’s been against the warriors from the jump😂😭

    • @turnerburner922
      @turnerburner922 Před 2 lety +1

      And he said it twice!!! Lol

  • @balltalkdeep
    @balltalkdeep Před 2 lety +456

    I wanna know what Steph did to Antoine Walker cuz he's clearly hurt to put him at only Top 30

    • @ryanliu1070
      @ryanliu1070 Před 2 lety +69

      Steph took one of his ears.

    • @quar7
      @quar7 Před 2 lety +2

      @@ryanliu1070 lmaoooooo

    • @cc-92
      @cc-92 Před 2 lety +7

      Yeah he bugging

    • @deehill6719
      @deehill6719 Před 2 lety +2

      I swear

    • @user-xv1sr3uy7p
      @user-xv1sr3uy7p Před 2 lety +16

      Steph must have done something to him but idk what.🤣🤣 But notice how antione never appears on any other show besides this one, it’s bc u can’t take him seriously. His takes are pure trash

  • @Hibachi22
    @Hibachi22 Před 2 lety +84

    Steph didn’t just impact the game he impacted how you WIN in the game.

  • @eh_chasereric881
    @eh_chasereric881 Před 2 lety +277

    Antwan is clearly smoking something man. Now I want to see his top 30 list.

    • @Jmm4L
      @Jmm4L Před 2 lety +40

      The man knows nothing about basketball and it’s shows in how he used to play

    • @Icygt500
      @Icygt500 Před 2 lety +3

      @@Jmm4L 😂😂😂😂

    • @thaman2x
      @thaman2x Před 2 lety

      Exactly.

    • @michelangelooliver2590
      @michelangelooliver2590 Před 2 lety +1

      @@Jmm4L 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @tomwells8442
      @tomwells8442 Před 2 lety +31

      His top 30 prolly got 9 fast food restaurants in it😂

  • @jeremiahsmith7706
    @jeremiahsmith7706 Před 2 lety +285

    I'm not big on Steph Curry, but you gotta respect the man. To say he's only TOP 30 is insane. I personally have him somewhere in that 11-15 spot. But to believe there's 20-25 guys better than him is crazy.

    • @3Anti1Social4
      @3Anti1Social4 Před 2 lety +22

      Completely agree ole boy must’ve bet money on him and lost or something, he got some type of beef with Curry😭💀

    • @ottomaaan3325
      @ottomaaan3325 Před 2 lety +1

      agree. curry is great but unfortunately his defense pushed him out of top 10. he has zero all defensive team.

    • @ricommg
      @ricommg Před 2 lety +6

      I heard that and stopped the video and went str8 to the comments lol top 15 is not even arguably at this point. Top 30 is disrespectful with his resume smh

    • @ottomaaan3325
      @ottomaaan3325 Před 2 lety +1

      @@ricommg as great as he is, he may not be top 10 at the end of his career. his defense has failed him to enter that top 10 all time. if he only made a all nba defensive team multiple times

    • @fghfdgfdg6022
      @fghfdgfdg6022 Před 2 lety +5

      @@ottomaaan3325 it’s fine to not have him top 10, but I would say it’s completely reasonable to include given that he might be the greatest offensive engine ever.

  • @archstanton5973
    @archstanton5973 Před 2 lety +24

    *_""we will never see Steph in another NBA finals, ever"_*
    Nick Wright February 7, 2020

  • @Raven.Bloodrot
    @Raven.Bloodrot Před 2 lety +57

    The amount of disrespect Steph gets is honestly insane.

    • @karimw.9954
      @karimw.9954 Před 2 lety +1

      He's being discussed amongst the greatest of all time. What is disrespectful about that?

    • @youngmale2750
      @youngmale2750 Před rokem

      @@karimw.9954 that hater had him top 30💀

  • @dcdj35
    @dcdj35 Před 2 lety +53

    My favorite part of this is how Nick said Poole wouldn’t continue to shoot over 50% going into this series. So he shot 63% instead 😂

  • @Noin007
    @Noin007 Před 2 lety +118

    Thank you Nick for giving Hakeem his love! Hakeem gets so wildly overlooked, I can only assume it's because Rockets management failed so hard to keep a solid team around him.

    • @JourdanChaney
      @JourdanChaney Před 2 lety +8

      most underrated player of all time

    • @FinesseJohnson187
      @FinesseJohnson187 Před 2 lety +2

      Facts! Much respect to the dream 💯👍

    • @TheMissiIe
      @TheMissiIe Před 2 lety +2

      And Duncan, both Duncan and Hakeem are in my top 5

    • @Eschatonx
      @Eschatonx Před 2 lety +3

      No doubt. Nick isn't particularly wrong in this case, there are literally 14 people in the top 10. Not sure how we decide and split hairs with these 14 elite class of players. Good luck.

    • @Noin007
      @Noin007 Před 2 lety +1

      @@Eschatonx 100% It's so annoying seeing so many "experts" who seem unable to count to 10 or to grabs the concept of a "top ten". 😂

  • @chiefmiyagi9802
    @chiefmiyagi9802 Před 2 lety +33

    "I got him at top 30." 💀💀💀💀

  • @patrickchen1673
    @patrickchen1673 Před 2 lety +77

    Walker went bankrupt for a reason, lack of judgment

  • @mamadousamassi4957
    @mamadousamassi4957 Před 2 lety +7

    Disrespect toward Steph 🤔 is at all time High🤦🏽‍♂️

  • @vh2712
    @vh2712 Před 2 lety +34

    Curry at 6'3 is able to do more than a lot of those guys nick and Antwan mentioned. Steph impact of the game is greater than most of them.

    • @mindyourbuisness8104
      @mindyourbuisness8104 Před 2 lety +2

      Who are you putting him above that nick mentioned?

    • @amenx
      @amenx Před 2 lety +1

      @@mindyourbuisness8104 Lebron

    • @SandManSadiq
      @SandManSadiq Před 2 lety +3

      The only thing he’s able to do that the others can’t is shoot 3s better than anyone in NBA history. Other than that, everyone in the top 10 does nearly everything else better.

    • @vh2712
      @vh2712 Před 2 lety +1

      @@SandManSadiq you obviously don't know the game of basketball with that kind of statement. Sure Steph can shoot 3pt but it's his gravity that allows his teammates to function and makes the warriors offense harder to defend than anyone. That's called impact on the game without really scoring at 6'3 ft tall. You're just a novice so stop making idiotic statements.

    • @SandManSadiq
      @SandManSadiq Před 2 lety +3

      @@vh2712 So? You Curry fans love talking about “scoring gravity” like Curry’s the only player that has it, and it’s due to his elite ability to shoot which further proves my point. The only thing he has over any of the top 10 is his 3pt shooting. Other than that, everyone else in the top 10 does nearly everything better.

  • @renewd
    @renewd Před 2 lety +10

    It is unfair to talk about Steph as if all he does is take threes. He is also one of the best drivers of the basketball.

    • @turnerburner922
      @turnerburner922 Před 2 lety

      It’s similar to how people say MJ is “just a scorer”. Lazy/pathetic analysis

  • @snakecharm5966
    @snakecharm5966 Před 2 lety +12

    Most analyst can't seem to comprehend the staggering presence of Steph on court. It came to me so clearly when watching these Conference Finals. The games between Miami and Boston look like all the players are clustered inside the 3 point lane, while in the Western series, defense is spread out all the way to mid court. There's your IMPACT right there.

  • @darrellhardy90
    @darrellhardy90 Před 2 lety +74

    Curry the most impactful player since Michael Jordan 💯... when he's on the court his shooting ability draws the defense way out, creates more spacing and opens up the whole floor for other guys 🏀🏀🏀

    • @lo5201
      @lo5201 Před 2 lety +1

      You know ball

    • @chasingfelix3609
      @chasingfelix3609 Před 2 lety +3

      That’s wrong but not by a lot at least.

    • @sportstalkonly1442
      @sportstalkonly1442 Před 2 lety +1

      The most delusional comment on this video

    • @chasingfelix3609
      @chasingfelix3609 Před 2 lety +2

      @@sportstalkonly1442 lmao I know. No number supports this

    • @Dreamwunder
      @Dreamwunder Před 2 lety +2

      @@chasingfelix3609 what about the numbers that curry has one of if not the highest plus or minus when he plays? Literally impact on winning when he’s on court. Way better plus or minus than Kd for example. There’s a reason why when curry didn’t play Kd and warriors struggled while when Kd didn’t play and curry played they still win at historic rate. There’s a reason curry led real plus minus so many years

  • @Ravenamps
    @Ravenamps Před 2 lety +26

    Steph’s shooting is so good he would’ve been a top 5 in any era with a 3-point line. If Dubs win two more rings (including this year) I don’t think I’d hesitate to say he’s better than Shaq and maybe Kobe. I doubt Antoine would ever admit that.

    • @marcotestolin6791
      @marcotestolin6791 Před 2 lety

      No way man. Nick is right here

    • @treyivey9814
      @treyivey9814 Před 2 lety +3

      Not over Kobe and Shaq are u nuts?

    • @Ravenamps
      @Ravenamps Před 2 lety +1

      @@treyivey9814 if Steph gets 5 rings then yeah, I’d say he’s gotta rank higher than Shaq. Maybe not Kobe, but I wouldn’t protest if someone made that argument.

    • @treyivey9814
      @treyivey9814 Před 2 lety +2

      Get a three peat like Shaq with 3 consecutive Finals MVPs. Then hey u got me.

    • @treyivey9814
      @treyivey9814 Před 2 lety +1

      @@Ravenamps Nothing wrong with being 11th or 12th. Great talent. Let him win first then lets see

  • @1Road2Success
    @1Road2Success Před 2 lety +4

    He’s saying that someone that is widely recognized as THE BEST SHOOTER IN THE GAME… is barely in the top 30?!!!!!
    C’mon man!!

  • @L971loveYB
    @L971loveYB Před 2 lety +3

    The way Antoine hates Steph is hilarious. The man really said TOP 30 🤣🤣🤣🤣
    Seeing Steph being successful must be so painful for him

  • @MichaelLudden
    @MichaelLudden Před 2 lety +24

    The Steph and Warriors disrespect is unreal. I look forward to watching y'all eat your words for the rest of your careers.

  • @Rctm13
    @Rctm13 Před 2 lety +3

    Everybody’s reaction to Walker saying he’s top 30 😂😂

  • @jrev8089
    @jrev8089 Před 2 lety +3

    Everyone choked when Antoine said 'top 30'. The execs should've walked on set and confiscated his badge, coffee mug, fob-key, parking pass, and his one air-pod for that take.

  • @wadescounty3626
    @wadescounty3626 Před 2 lety +6

    Glad Hakeem is still getting love. Easily my favorite center all time with his footwork and all around game

  • @KazzyOfficial
    @KazzyOfficial Před 2 lety +20

    Antoine has never had a good take on this show. Antoine has never been entertaining on this show. Why is Antoine still on this show??

    • @Zackaveli
      @Zackaveli Před 2 lety +1

      He’s actually pretty good sometimes. This take was insane though. Definitely seems like he’s just trying to get headlines.

    • @princecheck11
      @princecheck11 Před 2 lety

      u must be a warrior fans ☠️

  • @thenihilistmillennial8245
    @thenihilistmillennial8245 Před 2 lety +36

    Antwan gives the worst takes, I have yet to hear a sensible one from this brother 🤦🏻

    • @AphasicMute
      @AphasicMute Před 2 lety

      Who's antwan?

    • @ryanliu1070
      @ryanliu1070 Před 2 lety +5

      @@AphasicMute the guy sitting in the middle without ears

    • @mikehoward9211
      @mikehoward9211 Před 2 lety

      why is he even on the show? needed a low IQ guy for diversity?

    • @willjohnwick6911
      @willjohnwick6911 Před 11 měsíci

      @@ryanliu1070without ears? 😂😂😂 💀

  • @goldblooded30livetto93
    @goldblooded30livetto93 Před 2 lety +4

    The amount of disrespect Steph gets mahn 😔😔it just hurts me

  • @marvinthefilmnerd9259
    @marvinthefilmnerd9259 Před 2 lety +30

    He’s top ten if he wins another title and Steph haters heads will explode. They’re already in shambles

    • @thaman2x
      @thaman2x Před 2 lety +3

      He needs FMVP also to move into top 10. I think I have him at 12. With FMVP, I would certainly feel more comfortable moving him ahead of Hakeem and wilt

    • @theheadliner4403
      @theheadliner4403 Před 2 lety +1

      Over who kid?

    • @mindyourbuisness8104
      @mindyourbuisness8104 Před 2 lety +1

      Who you taking out?

    • @crazytrain111
      @crazytrain111 Před 2 lety +1

      If he’s top 10 who are you taking out of the top 10? List the 10 best players ever

    • @amenx
      @amenx Před 2 lety +1

      @@crazytrain111 bronze

  • @wesleyladda3498
    @wesleyladda3498 Před 2 lety +12

    Shaq,Jordan and Steph changed the game period.
    Shaq-most dominating
    Jordan-first guard to lead the league in scoring and win a championship when it was a big man’s league
    Steph-best 3 point shooter ever and had the entire league and everybody shooting 3’s

    • @sherifffaal9704
      @sherifffaal9704 Před 2 lety +2

      Magic was a guard n he led his team to championships!😂

    • @Aurupa
      @Aurupa Před 2 lety

      @@sherifffaal9704 Magic was a guard in a PF body. I hate to bring it to you but that ain’t normal

    • @Simba365
      @Simba365 Před 2 lety +1

      Correction Wilt, Shaq , Magic,Bird, Michael then steph.

    • @sherifffaal9704
      @sherifffaal9704 Před 2 lety

      @@Aurupa Yeah he's a special

    • @pedromoreira2875
      @pedromoreira2875 Před 2 lety

      @@Simba365 It's not a top 10 list. He is just naming players how clearly change the game. I would add Wilt since the man could and would do anything he wanted so the rules needed to be changed. (The man missed free throw on purpose so he could dunk them, what a legend).

  • @nishant98
    @nishant98 Před 2 lety +21

    I was so disappointed in him when he said this thing man, he CLEARLY does not know the modern era NBA smh, argubaly the worst take in history of NBA there is no question about it

    • @bigboner23
      @bigboner23 Před 2 lety

      Ooo sure a former nba player who has nothing but time to watch ball knows nothing about the nba 😂

  • @ryancparker
    @ryancparker Před 2 lety +2

    The three point line has been in the NBA since 1979. It took 35 years for a player like Steph Curry to come along and fundamentally change the way basketball is played. He’s the greatest shooter of all time in a game where putting the ball in the basket more times than your opponent is the key to winning. If you’re measuring a player’s impact on the game of basketball he’s easily top 5.

  • @kuci1995
    @kuci1995 Před 2 lety +18

    30! Top 30! Bruh Steph at least top 20

  • @marklumar2034
    @marklumar2034 Před 2 lety +7

    The reasons people penalize and under rate steph are the same reasons we glorified and praised players like Tim Duncan

  • @tattiman123
    @tattiman123 Před 2 lety +6

    Antoine opinion immediately revoked , top 30?? This guy hatin

  • @ChonkUm
    @ChonkUm Před 2 lety +4

    His impact on a game is not as much about shooting 3's, as it is about respectin the game and playing it in its purest form. Steph never stops moving, whether he has the ball or not. He works relentlessly but always has fun. The ball stays moving, good shots are passed up for great shots, EVERYBODY plays defense, everybody gets to play. He changed the game far more than bombing 3s

    • @jordandavis3867
      @jordandavis3867 Před rokem

      Right.... Steph don't just be jacking up 3s just for doing it sakw. He also drives into the paint alot and opts for 2 pointers over the 3 pointer on many occasions.

  • @matthewgardner8479
    @matthewgardner8479 Před 2 lety +60

    Everyone loves to call him top 10 until it gets down to brass tax and you have to actually put him ahead of some all-time greats. Nick's opening line was the best lol

    • @joonpak
      @joonpak Před 2 lety +6

      I got him ahead of Hakeem, West, KD, and Oscar- but behind Duncan, Shaq, and Kobe.
      It goes for me: MJ, LeBron, Kareem, Magic, Wilt, Russell, Bird, Tim, Shaq, Kobe. That’s ten. That puts Steph at 11. And he’s my favorite athlete of all time so plz win a few more rings so I can put him in the top ten!

    • @aw98000
      @aw98000 Před 2 lety +2

      Magic and Bird were amazing but I wonder if they would be as successful in an NBA with as much parity as today. For Steph to be as dominant as he's been in such a broad and competitive NBA it's truly a testament to his greatness.

    • @DFlowetry
      @DFlowetry Před 2 lety +1

      @@joonpak Kobe definitely ahead of bird, Duncan, Shaq

    • @mrmillennium2697
      @mrmillennium2697 Před 2 lety +1

      Gotta consider how physical the game use to be and no Steph is not "better" than Hakeem Olajuwon

    • @youraverage90sguys7
      @youraverage90sguys7 Před 2 lety +2

      @@joonpak top 3 in any order kareem, bron jordan, 4/5 magic and wilt interchangable, 6/7 duncan bird interchangable. 8 russel. 9 and 10 shaq and hakeem interchangable. looking at it objectively, you need to have been the main guy for at atleast 4 pieces of hardware to be in top 10. atleast 2 chips and 1 regular season award (mvp or dpoy) shaq has 3 rings as main guy and 1 mvp, hakeem has 2 and 1 mvp and 1 dpoy. kobe has 2 rings as the main guy and 1 mvp and is number 11. cant put him in 10 because hes just lacking in carreer achievements. steph 12th and can most certrainly bump surpass kobe and either shaq or hakeem as 10th if he wins the chip AND fmvp.

  • @mhoessl
    @mhoessl Před 2 lety +2

    “Hating” on Steph would be saying he top 20 saying he’s top 30 is crazy

  • @cobywan0519
    @cobywan0519 Před 2 lety +7

    that’s why it should be separated into too smalls of all-time and top bigs of all-time because being a guard is VASTLY different than being a big and how you can affect the game. it’s easier to be a top player at 6’6+ and athletic vs being 6’2…also it’s wild that steph has beat a top two player all-time in the finals (once by himself) and then two other times but not considered top 10 let alone 15 is insane

  • @ubadman1
    @ubadman1 Před 2 lety +3

    Walker is smoking that good stuff.

  • @lij2015
    @lij2015 Před 2 lety +9

    Would love to see that top 30 list, saying he's anything less than top 15 if he retired tomorrow are the drugs I want to be on

  • @lanafelix8649
    @lanafelix8649 Před 2 lety +15

    Curry in top 12 all time and still has to write his legacy better with accomplishments with all the greats

    • @ottomaaan3325
      @ottomaaan3325 Před 2 lety +4

      unfortunately he will never be a top 10. curry underachieved with zero all defensive team

    • @risingphoenix1484
      @risingphoenix1484 Před 2 lety +3

      Buffoonery Steph is not better than Olajuwon or KD.....remember KD played with Steph and who was the best player on the team? if KD was not on that team you can guarantee Steph does not have 2 of those 3 rings... those are Lebrons...

    • @R9000S
      @R9000S Před 2 lety

      @@risingphoenix1484 whose in Cancun?

    • @lemoy28
      @lemoy28 Před 2 lety

      @@risingphoenix1484 KD got free ride in golden State buddy

    • @risingphoenix1484
      @risingphoenix1484 Před 2 lety

      @@lemoy28 free ride and was the mvp of the finals twice not steph…. Buddy….

  • @groscul1548
    @groscul1548 Před 2 lety

    all their reactions when he said "Top 30" lol 2:01

  • @Pops-bc2ds
    @Pops-bc2ds Před 2 lety

    Love Nick’s Top 10!!🤝🔥

  • @timhsu8803
    @timhsu8803 Před 2 lety +1

    Antoine’s insane. This jus shows the old school players don’t see what steph does day in and day out. Passing out of the double team near the half court line is the best play.

  • @Mezz606804
    @Mezz606804 Před 2 lety +2

    I had to keep rewinding to the 2:05 mark to see whose reaction was the best… lowkey might be Jenna for trying to keep a straight face . Lol

  • @dillonepowell
    @dillonepowell Před 2 lety +2

    Impact on winning: Lebrun is #1. He literally gave all nba players a new pathway to win. Without him moving to Miami on his own accord, kd doesn’t go to golden state. And Steph might still be at 1 ring. Steph might be #2 on impact list for me. He has even big men trying to shoot threes.

  • @LLPOF
    @LLPOF Před 2 lety

    Hey Nick, how many teams have come back from a 4-1 deficit?

  • @NarwinSintop
    @NarwinSintop Před 2 lety +1

    Antoine Walker just went from 0 to Skip Bayless with that take. 🤦🏻‍♂️

  • @paulwilliams2024
    @paulwilliams2024 Před 2 lety +1

    He’s 11 atm but when win this Finals MVP and his 4th ring he’s TOP 10 no question .

    • @jDiddyi
      @jDiddyi Před 2 lety

      He needs five to take someone out. Two cheat code years don't add enough ammo to take someone out the top 10

  • @josephp345
    @josephp345 Před 2 lety +6

    That reaction to saying Steph was in the top 30 was gold

  • @DRGOAT999
    @DRGOAT999 Před 2 lety +2

    Fire Bold dude bro 😂😂😂

  • @donnalising6600
    @donnalising6600 Před 2 lety +5

    Meanwhile, Steph looks up to Reggie Miller and Ray Allen, dude himself did not and never insert himself on GOAT conversation but rather the like to be called the best shooter title in the planet.

  • @ricommg
    @ricommg Před 2 lety +10

    Dude is easily top 15, arguably top 10 if he wins another ring and FMVP. Top 30 is vastly disrespectful lol

    • @868Doescrack
      @868Doescrack Před 2 lety

      That wont do it

    • @868Doescrack
      @868Doescrack Před 2 lety

      He would need atleast 2 to 3 FMVP for him to move up the list. Even the 2 times he lost in the finals he wouldn’t have been FMVP it would have been draymond 2016 kd of klay 2019

    • @ricommg
      @ricommg Před 2 lety

      @@868Doescrack I said it’s arguable. Not definitive. The argument will def gain traction if he does.

    • @samuelzelalem3079
      @samuelzelalem3079 Před 2 lety

      @@868Doescrack He has 2, 2015 was his they robbed him of 2015 Finals MVP I bet even Iguodala admits it

  • @elcucuy493
    @elcucuy493 Před 2 lety +13

    I think he's number 10 or 9 all time for me right now. I got him ahead of Hakeem and Larry and I think his resume is on par with Shaq

    • @richardgutierrez26
      @richardgutierrez26 Před 2 lety +5

      How is he ahead of Hakeem who is probably the greatest defender in nba history and one of the moat skilled players regardless of positions in nba history as well as only 2 players to win a title without another all star on their roster that season, hes not better than him, hes definitely not better than Larry Bird who won 3 consecutive mvps was a much better all around player than Steph and has Finals MVPS something Curry never accomplished and Shaq is worlds better than Steph, 3 consecutive rings with 3 Finals MVPS, stop it Curry is just outside the top 10 like 12th

    • @mindyourbuisness8104
      @mindyourbuisness8104 Před 2 lety +3

      Shaq has 3 finals mvps. Steph still only has 1 title without kd so now he can't be ahead of larry

    • @allenwilliams3774
      @allenwilliams3774 Před 2 lety

      He’s not ahead of Bird. Please.

    • @elcucuy493
      @elcucuy493 Před 2 lety +3

      You guys can argue all you want about it but for me, just off of what I've seen and the total amount of accolades, I've got him rn number 9 or 10 all time. I've watched a lot of players play and I've watched replays of older games with guys like bird and I 100% believe that curry is in the 9 or 10 spot on the all time list. But that's just my opinion. When we get to this place, we're splitting hairs at this point

    • @R0yalty
      @R0yalty Před 2 lety +3

      Let's see if his resume is on par with Shaq:
      Shaq Steph
      14x All-NBA 8x All-NBA
      3x All-Defensive 0x All-Defensive
      1x MVP 2x MVP
      4x NBA champ 3x NBA champ
      3x Finals MVP 0x Finals MVP
      Doesn't look like it's on par to me lol
      And you said he is ahead of Bird, let's see:
      Bird Steph
      10x All-NBA 8x All-NBA
      3x All-Defensive 0x All-Defensive
      3x MVP 2x MVP
      3x NBA champ 3x NBA champ
      2x Finals MVP 0x Finals MVP
      Bird also clears Steph 🤣

  • @FrameCounting
    @FrameCounting Před 2 lety

    2:02 lol @ the other hosts reactions

  • @asiiiexperience3361
    @asiiiexperience3361 Před 2 lety +7

    Mans said top 30 😂😂😂

  • @AnthonyVex
    @AnthonyVex Před 2 lety

    It's really just the best guards usually define a generation and who the kids try to emulate because the things they do are easier to achieve size wise, before this 3 pointer craze kids wanted handles like Hardaway, A.I and others to the point it created those and1 mixtapes.

  • @ahldjinko506
    @ahldjinko506 Před 2 lety +3

    If you cant admit that steph is at least top 12 bare minimum, then you just don't like him and that's okay. But top 30.... come on bruh

  • @lemoy28
    @lemoy28 Před 2 lety +3

    So many people want to discredit Steph even for what's he done, it's blasphemous

  • @hibachipapi
    @hibachipapi Před 2 lety +3

    Allen Iverson changed the culture

  • @christophmatthews4313
    @christophmatthews4313 Před 2 lety +1

    Top 20, maybe when he’s done he’ll be near the top 10. He’s not done. But none of this is an insult. He is an absolute all-time great.

  • @jegca
    @jegca Před 2 lety

    i'm a warriors fan and Nick Wright's argument is very logical and sound.. i hate people who just say top 10 or top 5 but don't exactly name each player...

  • @tware1402
    @tware1402 Před 2 lety +2

    Bro you gotta look at every one face when twan say he top 30 😭😭😭

  • @jacob4183
    @jacob4183 Před 2 lety +1

    Steph Curry is the 1st person in NBA HISTORY that you have to guard from 35ft... all the time did Walker forget how to play basketball because that alone puts him in the top 30 not to mention EVERYTHING else Steph has accomplished

  • @theoneweekwonder
    @theoneweekwonder Před 2 lety

    There is a big difference between being a top 10 player and having a top 10 career. People forget that when making judgements on these kinds of lists. different eras and rule changes as well

  • @fccl1
    @fccl1 Před 2 lety +1

    Steph Curry has one of the highest +/- in the playoffs per game in history.

  • @4410
    @4410 Před 2 lety

    I fast forward when atwoine speaks

  • @willzsportscards
    @willzsportscards Před 2 lety +1

    Kobe/Bird/Duncan? Hakeem needs to be in that group.

  • @hopenyavor5514
    @hopenyavor5514 Před 2 lety

    Antoine please stop!!!! 💀😂

  • @yusuf8938
    @yusuf8938 Před 2 lety +1

    Antwan needs to be put on probation for this one

  • @ryanliu1070
    @ryanliu1070 Před 2 lety

    Last time Walker made the same argument in his local barber shop, someone took one of his ears as punishment

  • @lawrenceloilo3996
    @lawrenceloilo3996 Před 2 lety +1

    Why they talk about top 10 players and comparing steph to LeBron and Shaq this are basketball players play with different role, they are not a tennis player to compare with the same player. In basketball there is a PG SG, Forward, power forward and Center all of them is playing a important role to win the game of basketball

  • @kingchino4990
    @kingchino4990 Před 2 lety

    It’s my opinion but the man has changed the game, ain’t too many that did that but I I agree that he I may not be too 10 but he is close. But does it matters?? He is a HOF regardless 💪🏾💪🏾

  • @LLPOF
    @LLPOF Před 2 lety

    If I have the number one pick in an all-time draft to build a team, Steph, Magic, or Bird are the pick. This is a team game and no one helps a team more than those guys. No one! It's not even close.

  • @VINUDOSEN
    @VINUDOSEN Před 2 lety

    Alot of people always said that one thing is missing in steph curry trophy case. The should think like this Micheal Jordan, LeBron, KD, your top 10 never win unanimous mvp. How many time did steph curry beat LeBron, how many top 10 player lead their team to 73 win, how many top ten players change the way you shoot basket. Basketball is about putting ball on the basket

  • @superdopehiphop
    @superdopehiphop Před 2 lety +1

    Hakeem is undoubtedly > Steph. He’s top4-6 honestly and was great offensively also! If Hakeem and Russell/Wilt/Kareem/Shaq/Duncan switched careers and Hakeem got to play with all the HOF players/coaches they got to he’d have 2x-6x more titles then the 2 he has!

  • @craigrahman7917
    @craigrahman7917 Před 2 lety

    Antoine Walker is smoking work

  • @roygherbil3276
    @roygherbil3276 Před 2 lety

    Whether I agree or not First Things First is the best sports debate show out there.

  • @frankdaman1234
    @frankdaman1234 Před 2 lety

    IF HES THE GREATEST OF SUCH A BIG PART OF THE GAME HE HAS TO BE IN THE TOP TEN

  • @MrBeatboxmasta
    @MrBeatboxmasta Před 2 lety +6

    Wildes was trying to make an argument in support of Steph but he actually made it in support of LBJ. If every kid is doing what you are doing, you can't be as great as someone who cannot be emulated by kids, even if they tried.

    • @thalegendarydruss
      @thalegendarydruss Před 2 lety +4

      Can anyone emulate curry's shooting. Off the dribble, catch and shoot, running of screens. Guys compared him to trae young and that was a joke.

    • @SageShini
      @SageShini Před 2 lety +1

      You can't actually emulate what Steph does. It LOOKS attainable, but the talent actually isn't. Steph created a league of dudes jacking up 3s and none of them have achieved what he's done already.

    • @sportstalkonly1442
      @sportstalkonly1442 Před 2 lety +1

      @@thalegendarydruss they can at least make the attempt. But not with LeBron

    • @richardgutierrez26
      @richardgutierrez26 Před 2 lety +5

      So MJ wasn't that great because people could emulate what he did or does that argument sound silly now

    • @northside4767
      @northside4767 Před 2 lety

      That makes no sense. MJ had little white kids with 20 inch verticals trying to be like him. Even the ones ability couldn’t do it.

  • @AnnyBriggette
    @AnnyBriggette Před 2 lety

    Antoine if that’s your name you’re hating at this point!!😄😂

  • @adrenalineunlimited3376
    @adrenalineunlimited3376 Před 2 lety +6

    I love how they used to flame Nick so much more but as he continues to make good points and be right more than he's wrong, they're considerably less combatative

    • @redpillproductions7187
      @redpillproductions7187 Před 2 lety +2

      These people don't control how I view it.
      Jackie Robinson don't equate to Steph Curry's influence.
      Curry actually changed how people play, Jackie was picked to change the politics when black people already had their own league, just was highlighted.

    • @adrenalineunlimited3376
      @adrenalineunlimited3376 Před 2 lety +4

      @@redpillproductions7187 leave your own comment whacko, that ain't got nothing to do with what I'm saying

  • @Gubs2
    @Gubs2 Před 2 lety

    I’ve got him 12 rn, if he wins the chip then he comes up to 10 in my opinion, ahead of bird and Hakeem

    • @youraverage90sguys7
      @youraverage90sguys7 Před 2 lety +1

      bird is 6th or 7th hakeem and shaq are 9-10th interchangable kobe 11. if steph wins chip its 11 if he wins fmvp hes top 10 for either shaq or hakeem

  • @MrBeatboxmasta
    @MrBeatboxmasta Před 2 lety +1

    When talking about top 10, it should be who would have been able to make the necessary adjustments to dominate ANY era. Shaq can't make that list because he wouldn't be able to play on the perimeter on either sides of the court in this era. Someone like Wilt would have still been dominant because he was a multitalented athlete who made the HOF an 2 completely different sports. Based on those two examples, you can judge who is top 10.

    • @thaman2x
      @thaman2x Před 2 lety +1

      I'm not sure how old you are, but Shaq would still be dominant in this Era. Young Shaq is comparable to giannis. How he would've grown from there is up in the air. Embiid shows you can still be dominant from the post. Being able to shoot is a great bonus, but the defense is thankful every time embiid decides to shoot vs going into the post. Shaq would punish defense all night and force you to double team

    • @ricafortegio
      @ricafortegio Před 2 lety +1

      Shaq would dominate any center in todays league. Back than, he had to deal with Yao Ming, Duncan, Robinson, Wallace, and a handful more and he still put up monster numbers. If he played today, who the heck is preventing him from an easy dunk? Maybe Embiid? Shaq could play today easily. In fact, the spacing the 3’s create makes it harder to double on the post.

  • @tmghui888
    @tmghui888 Před 2 lety +1

    Anybody who says he is only top 30 doesn't know basketball. Lol! He is already top 15 in my opinion based on his resume and can climb up to being top 10 all time when he retires.

  • @eladnaor6099
    @eladnaor6099 Před 2 lety +1

    Can we please stop saying Larry Bird wasn't a great defender??

  • @BapeLord
    @BapeLord Před 2 lety

    Dude was right cuz when I hoop I let that bih fly from deep

  • @MatthewFilms123
    @MatthewFilms123 Před 2 lety

    Actually Chris if you are doing top 10 NBA players all time you have to do skill list because how else can you come up with the 10 players who are BEST at the game of basketball

  • @fluff975
    @fluff975 Před 2 lety

    7:48----8:28 in the last 40 seconds of this vid, antoine's basic argument for why he's somehow still not ready to put steph in the TOP 25: "yeah..... nah"

  • @ryanliu1070
    @ryanliu1070 Před 2 lety

    Before walker open his mouth, I thought Skip was the biggest Steph hater…..

  • @chedbeckford8067
    @chedbeckford8067 Před rokem

    Antoine is smoking something 😂🤣

  • @UCJInlzu1DhjQOOc3omg0FtQ

    can you really separate magic from bird? or kobe, bird and duncan from shaq, hakeem and oscar?

  • @apooh3051
    @apooh3051 Před 2 lety +2

    No more drug before the show for Antoine.

  • @austingraphics
    @austingraphics Před 2 lety +1

    A player who couldn't make the top 1000 has the nerve to place Steph outside of the top 25.

  • @donaldphillips8576
    @donaldphillips8576 Před 2 lety

    Curry is a top 15 player. MVP twice , 3 time champion , most 3's hit all time , needs just a few more accolades to enter the top 10.

  • @JuanMoreno-gk9cy
    @JuanMoreno-gk9cy Před 2 lety

    gonna have to start doing top 10% like schools do when there’s like 700 800 students

  • @jasondayee8363
    @jasondayee8363 Před 2 lety +8

    Steph is top 15 right now for sure. Even with a 4th championship I still don’t think he could be top 10 all time

    • @ottomaaan3325
      @ottomaaan3325 Před 2 lety +5

      yeah agreed. unfortunately as great as he is he will never be a top10 player all time. his defense pushed him out of the top 10. he has never made a all nba defensive team

    • @jasondayee8363
      @jasondayee8363 Před 2 lety

      @@ottomaaan3325 Exactly.

    • @apecentury228
      @apecentury228 Před 2 lety

      then you're a hater bc he most definitely is/would be

    • @gringoboy701
      @gringoboy701 Před 2 lety +1

      @@apecentury228 right. ppl having a different top 10 than u means they are haters.

    • @jasonwright6232
      @jasonwright6232 Před 2 lety

      @@ottomaaan3325 I don't have him in the top 10 either but you're saying he can never be in because he's never been on an all defensive team? You do know Magic has never been on an all defensive team right? I'm not trying to put Steph above these guys in the top 10 but just saying.

  • @serpentine8914
    @serpentine8914 Před 2 lety

    Steph has changed the game to such an extent that the Centers that the guy mentioned: "Wilt, Bill, Kareem, Shaq, ..." would have to change the way they play the game !! Most certainly getting far less touch of the ball.

  • @ilyasaden2900
    @ilyasaden2900 Před 2 lety

    Kobe in that first group fr !!

  • @ethanspraggins6542
    @ethanspraggins6542 Před 2 lety +4

    Twans Top 30 take just tells me he ain't figure out the order of anything yet and threw out a random number lol he has no clue who those 30 guys are

    • @BigKuna1K
      @BigKuna1K Před 2 lety +3

      I dare him to name all 30 that's better than steph

    • @ethanspraggins6542
      @ethanspraggins6542 Před 2 lety +3

      @@BigKuna1K fr tho dude he prolly got Ray Allen and Paul Pierce up there