Thanks for the great review! 👍 I share my impressions, if I may: In general I like R3, even if it is not the cleanest, but it provides an acceptable grinding for Turkish coffee and espresso. The sieves are quite functional for a funnel, this is not just a marketing ploy, when grinding 15 grams Brazil Santos per 600 micron sieve, 1.34 grams are filtered out in 1.5 minutes of not too diligent sieving, it really helps to get a cleaner taste. Cons: after 1.5-2 months of daily use, the lower bearing began to make extraneous sounds, this is not a lack of lubrication but with deformation of the balls. It is not difficult to change the bearing on my own and I contacted the support service to find out the specification and it was disgusting - an empty correspondence without any desire to help, they asked me for information about my scales and asked me to provide a video of grinding, etc., but the bearing specification was never reported. For grinding Turkish coffee, the R3 is better than the M47 (at least faster), but it is much inferior to the C40 both in speed and quality. I do not consider the micrometric setting in the M47 an advantage, the R3 is more convenient, but both of these grinders cannot compare with the slightly archaic C40 when it comes to grinding quality.
Thanks for sharing. I rarely drink Turkish coffee, so I don't often grind that fine. It seems the bearing might wear faster if it frequently grinds super fine? For sifting, while it does sift out fine particles, many tend to clump on the surface and don’t fall through. But overall, the filter screen is an interesting design, and indeed makes cleaner cup of coffee.
@@brewcoffeehome You are absolutely right. When I choosing P3, it was crucial for me that it is able to make fine grinding for Turkish coffee, this is a really difficult task for any coffee grinder. Nevertheless, it remains a mystery to me why 3Bomber engineers placed 2 bearings on top and only one on the bottom, because the force generated by the hand is incomparably less than the force at the eccentricity of the millstone, even if a displacement of tenths of a micron
I have no problem with removing the handle. i grab the rod and my thumb on the center and pull it straight out like doing a thumb up but on the shaft. Great video. The info is packed. ty very much for the review
After sifting your grounds, try a two-step brewing process: brew the coarse grounds first, then add back the fine grounds. Give it a try-it's a cool technique!
great review, very thorough...would be good to have seen see the cup profile for pourover it produces....i'm a new subscriber who joined you after the K ultra review.....amazing how far we've come in upping the tools and technology or the home consumer in 10 yrs....off all the handgrinders you have what is your best ''all rounder for light, med and even darker roasts, regardless of how they're processed (honey, natural, washed anaerobic etc)? I got the S3 in and was thinking of swapping it out for the K ultra...i'm just getting into light roasts but still like medium and even med/dark with cream .
I liked the review for the r3 grinder I had it two weeks ago and I like it. outer cover is excellent with me, and I didn't have any problems with it. I think the cup It causes mess Thank you for the video
Hey very nice video. How would you say it compares to the Timemore S3? I have the R3 but there is a very nice deal for the Timemore right now and want to know if it is worth it.
You don't need a screwdriver, you just need to move the axis at about 50 clicks and with your fingers push the bottom part, with that you loosen the top screw
Thanks, I just figured it out and removed it. You are right, the base is actually connected to the central shaft, so I don't need a screwdriver. They didn't mention disassembly in the manual. I also removed the outer ring, but it's very difficult to put back on. Now I'm learning how to recalibrate it back to zero.
@@brewcoffeehome It is very simple, you just have to do the same as if you were going to disassemble it, but instead of removing the nut you just tighten it, while trying to reach zero, in a few words, keep tightening until you reach the number you want in the video that I mentioned in the previous comment about the disassembled grinder, explain how to calibrate to zero, I think that with this in mind I could qualify this grinder as the best in its segment, which competes with timemore s3, c3 esp pro, k6 k4 and j espresso but you what's your opinion about it
@@Caneloelperro Thanks for the input! Yes, the R3 is a good all-around grinder for both filter coffee and espresso. It's also quite affordable. The Timemore S3 can't grind fine enough for espresso in my test. The C3 ESP is better in grind consistency at mid-range settings but offers fewer grind settings and has larger step (23 microns) for dialing in. 1Zpresso's grinders, like the J or K series, are better than the R3 but also more expensive, so it's not a fair comparison. I haven't tried the K4 and K6 yet.
@@brewcoffeehome I did a lot of research on the topic on reddit. And my conclusions when buying my first grinder was the R3, maybe one day you can I would like to see that comparison with the k6 since they compare it with the Fellow ode 2 in terms of pouring in terms of pouring personally, although I only get a week with the. I loved the R3 and I am considering the Sniper from the same brand for the future
I'm very interested in the burr set on this grinder. It seems there are two other grinders using the same burrset, the Yukaofes U Pro S, and the Veisimple grinder. The collar burr looks similar to something like a k ultra. But the cone burr is something completely unique. Very aggressive unflattened prebreakers with extremely short and shallow cut finishing teeth that have significant flat surfaces between each tooth. Usually the burr design is either an aggressive prebreaker with aggressive finishing teeth (1zpresso J series, kinu, timemore), or a slower feeding prebreaker with smaller and less aggressive finishing teeth (zp6, ssp mp). I don't really know what to make of this grinder.
Thanks for your insights. TBH I don’t have an in-depth knowledge of burr design myself, but it seems this grinder is designed to be an all-rounder, balancing both espresso and filter coffee. It has a built-in sifter for pour-over and offers 16 microns for precise adjustments for espresso.
First of all, I want to thank you for the wonderful video, but I have a question. I would like to know the difference between this grinder and the Time More x lite grinder for daily use in preparing espresso. Thank you.
thanks for the review. I have learned how my grind setting should be. I would set 1 full rot for pour over and I realized that with the video it was wrong. Nonetheless, taste was not bad at all, lol. The static is temporary but I think the only problem is (maybe it exist for only my grinder) squealing sound. My 5 grinds was not noisy, now it is screaming like a hell.
I think the X-Pro is easier to use and calibrate. For espresso, the X-Pro offers 12.5 microns per step, giving you even more room for minor adjustments. However, it does take longer to grind. The R3 seems to produce more fine dust than the X-Pro in the espresso range, I prefer the shot from the X-Pro.
Thx for the excellent review. Looking at the burr geometry online, it looks like this is more geared toward all purpose without ever going to excel in neither espresso or filter. Would you agree? Do you know on which click the burr start to rub against each other?
Thanks for the comment. I don't know much about burr geometry, could you please elaborate a bit so I can learn more? Based on my brewing experience, yes, it's an all-purpose grinder that works well for both filter and espresso. The point at which the burrs start to rub against each other depends on how you calibrate them.
@@brewcoffeehome its a 7 spoke burr that looks like a hybrid between MK3 or kingrinder 6 burr n Timemore DPMX 6 spoke burr. Unlike the MK3 it doesn't have the teeth that goes all the way to the top end of the burr. W/o analyzing it too much, just from experience alone, the MK3 excels in producing high clarity n complexity yet lacking richness and body. The DPMX on the other hand, I like it a tiny bit more because it's more balance and 'less thinking' and yet still bright for filter n espresso. The timemore changed it to S2C660 which for me sacrifice too much brightness for even more structure. But again, this is anecdotal and purely conjectural on my part. Say, if 0 is when the burr is locked, at which click the burr stops rubbing against each other? I mean, the alignment can't be perfect in a conical grinder.
@@wenderis Thanks for the input. I locked it to the finest setting, and the burrs stopped rubbing against each other (no noise, spinning freely) at 16 clicks.
In my R3 the millstone turns in both directions absolutely silently from the 12th click. Surprisingly, clockwise (as I do grinding) the millstones are silent starting from the 9th click, but in the opposite direction there is still a slight noise. And, I can turn the rod relatively easily without a handle just with my fingers from the 3rd click
I do not know how true this is, but I read that the millstones completely adjust to each other after a kilogram of ground coffee - I have ground only 600 grams so far)
HELLO, I HAVE THIS R3 MILL AND I HAVE TO CLARIFY THAT TO UNSCREW A SPECIAL TOOL IS NOT NECESSARY, IT IS SIMPLY UNSCREWED FROM THE TOP, I THINK THAT FOR THE PRICE 69 US IT IS AN EXCELLENT PRODUCT, OF GREAT QUALITY AND OFFERS A LOT OF MILL FEATURES MORE EXPENSIVE
As explained in the video each number is equal to 5 clicks. So for example: The number 11 means 55 clicks. A full rotation would be 60 clicks so if you go further than that you just add it together. So if I go for a full rotation + to the number 7 it would be 60 (full rotation) + 35 (7*5) = 95 Clicks. Of course you could go in between the full numbers to dial your coffee in even finer! :)
@@brewcoffeehomeI have tasted it with the K6 on V60. I have tried it with two coffees, one natural Kenya red bourbon and one washed Colombia. I have used the R3 with the 500 um sifter. I initially preferred the R3 with the Kenya coffee, it gave a more fruity cup in my opinion, but with the washed Columbia the K6 was better, it gave more acidity and complexity over the R3. After watching the video I will definitely try it without the sifter as I can’t get the same enjoyable cup that I had with the K6. I do prefer more acidity in my cups. I also have the K4 but for me it was always a disappointment when using it for filter as it produces a lot of fines and the coffee usually ends up tasting like coffee with no acidity and usually bitter. I do like the K4 for traditional espresso, it gives a lot of texture and mutes the acidity and it’s very enjoyable with milk as it brings out flavours of nuts and chocolate.
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Thanks for the great review! 👍
I share my impressions, if I may:
In general I like R3, even if it is not the cleanest, but it provides an acceptable grinding for Turkish coffee and espresso. The sieves are quite functional for a funnel, this is not just a marketing ploy, when grinding 15 grams Brazil Santos per 600 micron sieve, 1.34 grams are filtered out in 1.5 minutes of not too diligent sieving, it really helps to get a cleaner taste.
Cons: after 1.5-2 months of daily use, the lower bearing began to make extraneous sounds, this is not a lack of lubrication but with deformation of the balls. It is not difficult to change the bearing on my own and I contacted the support service to find out the specification and it was disgusting - an empty correspondence without any desire to help, they asked me for information about my scales and asked me to provide a video of grinding, etc., but the bearing specification was never reported.
For grinding Turkish coffee, the R3 is better than the M47 (at least faster), but it is much inferior to the C40 both in speed and quality. I do not consider the micrometric setting in the M47 an advantage, the R3 is more convenient, but both of these grinders cannot compare with the slightly archaic C40 when it comes to grinding quality.
Thanks for sharing. I rarely drink Turkish coffee, so I don't often grind that fine. It seems the bearing might wear faster if it frequently grinds super fine? For sifting, while it does sift out fine particles, many tend to clump on the surface and don’t fall through. But overall, the filter screen is an interesting design, and indeed makes cleaner cup of coffee.
@@brewcoffeehome You are absolutely right. When I choosing P3, it was crucial for me that it is able to make fine grinding for Turkish coffee, this is a really difficult task for any coffee grinder. Nevertheless, it remains a mystery to me why 3Bomber engineers placed 2 bearings on top and only one on the bottom, because the force generated by the hand is incomparably less than the force at the eccentricity of the millstone, even if a displacement of tenths of a micron
I have no problem with removing the handle. i grab the rod and my thumb on the center and pull it straight out like doing a thumb up but on the shaft.
Great video. The info is packed. ty very much for the review
Man... Great grinder.
Quick tip: Please rinse the paper filter before brewing. Flat bed paper filter taste...yucks... And would ruin your coffee. :)
I have it and I am enjoying it everyday.
So interesting to have hand grinder with time unit as a grind setting.
Great for thin grinding, for Turkish coffee and espresso 👍
After sifting your grounds, try a two-step brewing process: brew the coarse grounds first, then add back the fine grounds. Give it a try-it's a cool technique!
Thanks for the tips. :) Yes, it's fun to experiment with the sifters.
great review, very thorough...would be good to have seen see the cup profile for pourover it produces....i'm a new subscriber who joined you after the K ultra review.....amazing how far we've come in upping the tools and technology or the home consumer in 10 yrs....off all the handgrinders you have what is your best ''all rounder for light, med and even darker roasts, regardless of how they're processed (honey, natural, washed anaerobic etc)? I got the S3 in and was thinking of swapping it out for the K ultra...i'm just getting into light roasts but still like medium and even med/dark with cream .
I liked the review for the r3 grinder
I had it two weeks ago and I like it.
outer cover is excellent with me, and I didn't have any problems with it. I think the cup It causes mess
Thank you for the video
Thanks for your recommendation, and I'm glad you like the grinder. Sifting can be messy, but it's a lot of fun trying out the product.
Hey very nice video.
How would you say it compares to the Timemore S3?
I have the R3 but there is a very nice deal for the Timemore right now and want to know if it is worth it.
R3 ideal for espresso, S3 doesn't have that range on espresso
@@MahdiAbuHadid I have a dedicated 83mm electric grinder for espresso
You don't need a screwdriver, you just need to move the axis at about 50 clicks and with your fingers push the bottom part, with that you loosen the top screw
Thanks, I just figured it out and removed it. You are right, the base is actually connected to the central shaft, so I don't need a screwdriver. They didn't mention disassembly in the manual. I also removed the outer ring, but it's very difficult to put back on. Now I'm learning how to recalibrate it back to zero.
@@brewcoffeehome It is very simple, you just have to do the same as if you were going to disassemble it, but instead of removing the nut you just tighten it, while trying to reach zero, in a few words, keep tightening until you reach the number you want in the video that I mentioned in the previous comment about the disassembled grinder, explain how to calibrate to zero, I think that with this in mind I could qualify this grinder as the best in its segment, which competes with timemore s3, c3 esp pro, k6 k4 and j espresso but you what's your opinion about it
@@Caneloelperro Thanks for the input! Yes, the R3 is a good all-around grinder for both filter coffee and espresso. It's also quite affordable. The Timemore S3 can't grind fine enough for espresso in my test. The C3 ESP is better in grind consistency at mid-range settings but offers fewer grind settings and has larger step (23 microns) for dialing in. 1Zpresso's grinders, like the J or K series, are better than the R3 but also more expensive, so it's not a fair comparison. I haven't tried the K4 and K6 yet.
@@brewcoffeehome I did a lot of research on the topic on reddit. And my conclusions when buying my first grinder was the R3, maybe one day you can I would like to see that comparison with the k6 since they compare it with the Fellow ode 2 in terms of pouring in terms of pouring personally, although I only get a week with the. I loved the R3 and I am considering the Sniper from the same brand for the future
How can I calibrate the grinder?
I'm very interested in the burr set on this grinder. It seems there are two other grinders using the same burrset, the Yukaofes U Pro S, and the Veisimple grinder. The collar burr looks similar to something like a k ultra. But the cone burr is something completely unique. Very aggressive unflattened prebreakers with extremely short and shallow cut finishing teeth that have significant flat surfaces between each tooth. Usually the burr design is either an aggressive prebreaker with aggressive finishing teeth (1zpresso J series, kinu, timemore), or a slower feeding prebreaker with smaller and less aggressive finishing teeth (zp6, ssp mp). I don't really know what to make of this grinder.
Thanks for your insights. TBH I don’t have an in-depth knowledge of burr design myself, but it seems this grinder is designed to be an all-rounder, balancing both espresso and filter coffee. It has a built-in sifter for pour-over and offers 16 microns for precise adjustments for espresso.
How would you compare it to a Kingrinder K4?
First of all, I want to thank you for the wonderful video, but I have a question. I would like to know the difference between this grinder and the Time More x lite grinder for daily use in preparing espresso. Thank you.
thanks for the review. I have learned how my grind setting should be. I would set 1 full rot for pour over and I realized that with the video it was wrong. Nonetheless, taste was not bad at all, lol. The static is temporary but I think the only problem is (maybe it exist for only my grinder) squealing sound. My 5 grinds was not noisy, now it is screaming like a hell.
There are three bearings inside. Maybe something went wrong or they're not lubricated enough?
@furkansariaydin Benim R3 topuzundan ses yapıyor
@@mehmetak2493 evet benimki de ordanmış aşağı bastırınca düzeliyor
@@brewcoffeehome I figured it out that the noise comes from the knob. If I press a bit down, It goes away.
one small drop of Victorinox knife oil inside the hole of the wooden handle completely removes the creaking )
Thank`s for rewiew! So what`s better? this one ore timemore s3?
up for this! need an answer also :)
I have this grinder and its nice but do wish it was easier to understand for beginners
How would you compare it to the timemore c3esp?
I like this R3, faster grinding, smaller step, external adjustment, lower price and it feels more solid.
Hey, how would you compare in to a grinder like 1zpresso X-Pro for espresso? Flavor profile and general usage? Thanks
I think the X-Pro is easier to use and calibrate. For espresso, the X-Pro offers 12.5 microns per step, giving you even more room for minor adjustments. However, it does take longer to grind. The R3 seems to produce more fine dust than the X-Pro in the espresso range, I prefer the shot from the X-Pro.
Thx for the excellent review. Looking at the burr geometry online, it looks like this is more geared toward all purpose without ever going to excel in neither espresso or filter. Would you agree?
Do you know on which click the burr start to rub against each other?
Thanks for the comment. I don't know much about burr geometry, could you please elaborate a bit so I can learn more? Based on my brewing experience, yes, it's an all-purpose grinder that works well for both filter and espresso. The point at which the burrs start to rub against each other depends on how you calibrate them.
@@brewcoffeehome its a 7 spoke burr that looks like a hybrid between MK3 or kingrinder 6 burr n Timemore DPMX 6 spoke burr. Unlike the MK3 it doesn't have the teeth that goes all the way to the top end of the burr.
W/o analyzing it too much, just from experience alone, the MK3 excels in producing high clarity n complexity yet lacking richness and body. The DPMX on the other hand, I like it a tiny bit more because it's more balance and 'less thinking' and yet still bright for filter n espresso. The timemore changed it to S2C660 which for me sacrifice too much brightness for even more structure.
But again, this is anecdotal and purely conjectural on my part.
Say, if 0 is when the burr is locked, at which click the burr stops rubbing against each other? I mean, the alignment can't be perfect in a conical grinder.
@@wenderis Thanks for the input. I locked it to the finest setting, and the burrs stopped rubbing against each other (no noise, spinning freely) at 16 clicks.
In my R3 the millstone turns in both directions absolutely silently from the 12th click. Surprisingly, clockwise (as I do grinding) the millstones are silent starting from the 9th click, but in the opposite direction there is still a slight noise. And, I can turn the rod relatively easily without a handle just with my fingers from the 3rd click
I do not know how true this is, but I read that the millstones completely adjust to each other after a kilogram of ground coffee - I have ground only 600 grams so far)
HELLO, I HAVE THIS R3 MILL AND I HAVE TO CLARIFY THAT TO UNSCREW A SPECIAL TOOL IS NOT NECESSARY, IT IS SIMPLY UNSCREWED FROM THE TOP, I THINK THAT FOR THE PRICE 69 US IT IS AN EXCELLENT PRODUCT, OF GREAT QUALITY AND OFFERS A LOT OF MILL FEATURES MORE EXPENSIVE
Thanks for the comment. Yes, you are right. I noticed that later and made a disassembly short video, updated the description.
I also think that fines are necessary for espresso
Not full of fines, but some must exist
On CZcams there is a video where they disarmed it, just look for the disarmed mhw 3bomber
If you want to get the hand out faster, grab the grinder from the top of the numbers.
Can you get rid of chaff by using one of those sifters?
No, I think the sifter is designed for removing the fines, not the large particles.
what's the Total capacity? e.g. can you grind about 35gr at once?
If I fill it up with 20g of light roasted beans it is pretty full tbh
You may be able to grind at max 25-30g at once
I have the same one, how do we count clicks? Im new with hand grinders.
As explained in the video each number is equal to 5 clicks. So for example: The number 11 means 55 clicks. A full rotation would be 60 clicks so if you go further than that you just add it together. So if I go for a full rotation + to the number 7 it would be 60 (full rotation) + 35 (7*5) = 95 Clicks. Of course you could go in between the full numbers to dial your coffee in even finer! :)
How would you compare it to a Kingrinder K4?
I don't have the K4 so I can't compare them, I may buy a K6 for testing soon. :)
@@brewcoffeehomeI have tasted it with the K6 on V60.
I have tried it with two coffees, one natural Kenya red bourbon and one washed Colombia.
I have used the R3 with the 500 um sifter. I initially preferred the R3 with the Kenya coffee, it gave a more fruity cup in my opinion, but with the washed Columbia the K6 was better, it gave more acidity and complexity over the R3.
After watching the video I will definitely try it without the sifter as I can’t get the same enjoyable cup that I had with the K6.
I do prefer more acidity in my cups.
I also have the K4 but for me it was always a disappointment when using it for filter as it produces a lot of fines and the coffee usually ends up tasting like coffee with no acidity and usually bitter.
I do like the K4 for traditional espresso, it gives a lot of texture and mutes the acidity and it’s very enjoyable with milk as it brings out flavours of nuts and chocolate.