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You'd be surprised by the number of people I've seen in person and others posting on the web who refuse to buy and use BUIS. They say BUIS are obsolete and/or outdated and truly believe their optic is all they need. They laugh when presented with scenarios where BUIS are needed. Good video as always. Thank you for your time.
Thanks brother, I could give two shits what those guys do with their own rifle. When you train enough and/or deploy you see first hand things occasionally fail. I would have never thought about ice forming on my optics/PEQ if I didn't didn't experience it first hand. Thankfully it was in training, lesson learned. How often will you have to result to BUIS, hopefully never... but sh-t happens, I'd rather have them then not, they weigh nothing.
That’s because the scenarios are just not applicable to most civilians. You’re not going to be fighting in a trench in Ukraine, you’re not going to be LRRP patrolling in SHTF (you have a day job still and have a family to protect), and they are next to useless in night scenarios. Be honest with yourself and understand the argument people are making before attacking it. If you think you are going to be fighting Chinese paratroopers in trenches in your backyard, good on you, but at least realize what a silly scenario that is before doing mental gymnastics to justify BUIS.
@@depthcharge126 LOL Day Job in SHTF LMAO get off the internet and stop playing COD. Look here sonny, you be honest with yourself. You have no real world experience. Don't try to BS someone who does. You need BUIS but hey you do you. Good luck with your day job LMFAO.
@@depthcharge126 SHTF globally and everyone left alive will be in a trench. That's what one of the definitions of SHTF means. Yes, it can be a home intruder or it can be WW3, but you never know which one is coming. You do what you think is best. I ain't judging but I will add some perspective to the chat.
During my Army Infantry days everyone used the M-16a1, back in 1977. There were no optics of any kind. There was 4x power scope that was made to mount on that "carry handle." Made with a simple crosshair. One guy in the mortar mortar Platoon ordered one. It was very difficult to zero. It was a waste of money. Lot's of better options are available today. ACOG's, red-dot's, low power variable optics, laser emitters, infrared. Back in the day iron sights were all that was available and dependable. Only night vision was Startlight night vision. It was like carrying a concrete block on your M-16a1. Used an odd ball, special battery. Like I said a lot of things are vastly improved today. One of the better things is those blood clotting powders. Saved a lot of lives so far. I will not say there was much improvement when they switched from C-rations to MRE's. Nasty is still nasty.
This video makes me realize that in my time in the Marine Corps I haven't gotten much time practicing with iron sights. It seems unimportant but if we're expected to practice how we play there should be ranges or at least range time dedicated to swapping from optics to iron sights. Your video give guys like me who are still in topics to think and reflect about to better ourselves as warfighters
Yup, another neglected aspect is passive aiming thru NVGs. Most units don't even bother training or even discussing it. A peer on peer fight is not going to permit IR lasers flashing around. Going to take blood to change minds unfortunately.
💯. Made changes to my rifle before a class and forgot to locTite the optic in my hurry to get it zeroed (I know). When my optic rattle off in a drill, I tried to switch to my day laser but forgot the Bikini cover was on. I was too focused on setting the laser to the correct setting and timed out pressing the button wondering why it wouldn’t work. Switching to a backup laser when off isn’t fast. It requires dexterity and thought when it’s off. I put my buis back on after that and now make sure my laser is on. If you don’t agree with buis because you have a laser, you should be making sure it’s on and working before relaying on.
I was using an EOTech once and sighted in with stock fully extended. Went to the range and couldn't hit squat. After the range, I realized my stock was completely collapsed.
The M4 sight is made by Matech - we are issued them in the Army. Might have gotten a few bad or worn out ones but I do not like them as they don't seem to hold the elevation setting very well.
An etched reticle and BUIS is the way. Solid advice, especially for all the guys that think backing up their primary optic with an angled red dot is a solution. What if battle damage or dead batteries that you no longer can get replacements for occurs, then what? Irons work 100% of the time and if you know how to use them, you'll never be out of the fight. Semper Gumby!
Good video. I did a little bit of off hand night/winter training at a range I knew I could go to. It was a good experience. And fog proof to your list of benefits with irons. Two main things I learned: It does not take much water for an AR rifle to seize up. Dropped it in the snow when I walked out, snow melted and froze up my hammer and safety. The second, breathing in cold weather fogged up my stuff really easy, and my eye pro.
Yup, winter warfare is a different beast. More folks should expose themselves with it. Lots of lessons learned come out of operating in a cold weather environment, especially wet/cold.
I'm an old salty Marine sea dog from the mid 90's to the mid 2000's and I was a PMI. My entire time in we had the M-16A2 with fixed iron sights with Marines qualifying the KD course which as any Marine knows extends to 500 yards, with iron sights of which Marines did very well hitting a man sized target at that distance without magnification. Today, I have an LPVO, with a 12 o'clock RMR and BUIS. My front sight is fixed, only my rear is flip up.
Can't get behind the fact that rifles are sold without them anymore. They used to come standard and weren't mentioned now it's used as an "upgrade " and shouldn't be so. Good idea if going to use different ammo zero one to this ammo and your primary electronic sights to another round or another distance
@@TerranPlanetaryDefenseForce this is my point exactly. Firearms used to be made and sold at a higher standard and now we accept this. That sucks in my opinion
There is a practical reason as well, as the customer, you may not like the included back up sights. Often they are the MagPul plastic MBUS which are not bad, but still fragile compared to steel. Or you have a make and model that you prefer more, like the Knight's BUIS Just like the Glock, even included back ups for most AR15s are the first thing to go So long as the rifle is worth your money, not including backup sights are at worst, an inconvenience As for different Zeros for different weight bullets, as The Great Paul Harrell says, often "There is not enough of a difference to make a difference"
@@timjohnson8390 bro, even if they came with KAC Iron Sights for free, I'm taking them right off and selling them (actually tbh I collect KAC sights so I'd keep them for fun) I don't want whatever sights the manufacturer thinks I want. I'd rather they cut that cost and I buy what I want. I'm paying good money for a good rifle. I simply DO NOT WANT some backup sights to factor into the cost at all. They're such a non issue.
More of a case for the Primary Arms SLX line of prisms. Etched reticle can't be beat, tough to boot, & that ACSS reticle is all about business. Only need to run the illumination in low-light situations.
The one is none and two is one rule applies to sights; a quick backup. I have had a small amount of mud come down from above and block the rear apature of a M16A1. Scary when you don't note it in the rain and find just enough mud to block that small hole as you raise your weapon. We didn't have a second or third sight option...and were forbidden to add a second if we had one. After leaving the Corps, I maintain at least two on serious social situation rifles. Great discussion.
Range officer at a range i go to saw me with an Eotech and told me how in combat his went down (back when they had quality issues and the battery terminals coming lose). He didnt have back up irons and was screwed.
Another thing. If you don't have quick release of your primary and plan on and are able to use your backups through your optic glass, make sure you check the zero of your irons "though" your optic glass. It has been proven that the refraction from the glass can change your zero.
I had a bad experience with a A2 front sight gas block with a magpul rear sight that made me a less discipled using irons, which led to interest in walking up onto targets, which led to interest in the ACSS reticle to mitigate the need for walking up or combine that. I hope to get an A2 rear sight without the carry handle to get more serious about shooting with irons. Also love support for trijicon because they are a good christian company.
I have had to switch to irons in a couple of competions. They are essential. also essential is having a way to get the optic out of the way. If your optic is permently mounted without a quick release and you just flip up your back up irons you will still be trying to look through a non functional optic.
Good stuff. I really like 45 degree offset irons, they do feel natural as was stated. I don't like backing up tech with tech, also if one does not wish to use QD mounts or pay for them, just duct tape an allen/torx wrench to the buttstock.
One of my rifles i have an acog on with a QD mount and my main fighting rifle is a red dot/3x magnifier combo and both rifles have flip up irons on them ... my red dot rifle cowitnesses the irons so i dont need a QD mount also the red dot has front and back clear flip up covers if dirty i can flip them up or take em off. As a marine vet myself we dont think that far off brother
Great video,the topic is well thought out! Iron sight rock,optics are the tool to handle the chaos of battle. Thanks for sharing this with us!! 💪 🤝👊👍👍🤝🫡
The MaTech BUIS (mainly issued to US Army) is made by MaTech Solutions; while the one made by Knight's Armament (KAC) is the micro flip up rear sight (mainly issued to the Marine Corps).
Good info! I usually end up spending more time searching for BUIS I like than optics. I prefer the FSB and co-witnessing red dots on most of my ARs and am always 'fudding' with the rears. I like those 45 degree mounted BUIS for an LPVO rifle - doesn't get 'quicker' for go to.
Used Iron Sights all my life. Yes, optics have come a long way, but anything that requires batteries can quite on you. Not saying that will happen often, but it would be critical if it happened in a fight. And today's younger generation are optic dependent and seldom, if ever, train with iron sights. It is my belief that they should train heavily with iron sights due to the mentioned difficulty experienced by the author of this video with weather related issues. Fewer moving parts, fewer things to go wrong. 😏 On a personal note, at 74, after cataract surgery in both eyes, my distance vision is incredible, but I can't use optics. However, Iron Sights are perfect for my situation. So like in my experience over the years with iron sights, accurate shooting is as natural as shouldering a rifle. Anyway, that's my 2 cents worth. 😐
My experience with the AR, you really want that large aperture for night time or low light use. And a tritium front sight. Pulling numbers out of my ass, I'd say the AR sight system reduces light hitting your eye by 40% with the big aperture and 70% with the small aperture. So a strong light is needed to use them in low light/dark. Lots of candela. Right now I like the Trigicon front sight the best. In the rain, the small aperture can clog with water. One more reason I love having a dual aperture rear. I was told to take a safety pin, put on your uniform, and use that to clear AR sights of mud, ice, snow. It works. The best irons, in my experience, are the AK irons because you can clear snow or mud from them quickly and if you have an "express sighting system" it allows excellent light transmission to your eyeball at night or in low light. XS Sights for the AK (tritium) are simply awesome.
Also, understand that irons ought to be sighted in without the optic mounted unless you plan to only use the irons in the event that a optic dies. If you sight in irons with the optic then remove the optic and use the irons, your zero will shift. At 100-150 yards I find it's acceptable for an emergency situation, but zero will DEFINITELY shift. Likewise, if you zero with the irons, then slap on a RDS, and tune it to the irons, you will still want to zero the optic. The zeros will be different.
Irons really benefit from you having a consistent eye placement. I use "nose to charging handle" on an AR. Extremely fast and consistent for me. I can consistently do sub 1-second ready-ups with the small aperture rear and get A-zone hits at 15 yards. But whatever you do, be consistent. And practice practice practice.
This is why the see through pass through that those carry handle mounts for optics on top of carry handle retro ar's actually offer a bunch of advantages as you can still use the iron sights in a pinch under the reddot optic incase the reddot went out for some reason or visibility was low due to the optic being messed with by adverse conditions. Also those carry handle optics mounts allow nightvision mount height without a overly expensive mount; of course don't use a crappy mount regardless on a real AR. A.R.M.S mount or bust on a real firearm, for my airsoft CAR-15 a 20$ mount fits great, A.R.M.S mount is not in Canada and like 100$ or something. Still cheaper then a unity riser I think, and you get better less neck strained cheek chin weld or even just naturally hovering the weapon Infront of you inline with your head and proper shouldering and still have the ability to use irons via the tunnel inside the mount. ;) All on a classic gun build we have already been doing for a while now but people forget that's an option.
BUIS only weigh a few ounces even for steel ones, and then maybe a few more for a QD mount instead of the standard one for a given optic (or the 45 offset that I've also found to be very natural for use in all but the shooting positions that would be awkward regardless of sight method). Theyre also balanced front and back so its not like its adding a ton to a fulcrum effect from the front sight.. For me theres no reason not to run them, the biggest downside argument I could see would be some are very spendy, but a little research and checking reputable reviews can still point you in the direction of one's that wont break the bank for a newer owner while still being durable and reliable or ones that are a bit more expensive but have extra features that someone more experienced might want. And really an optic QD mount upgrade is the most expensive of the two, which is an easy "upgrade as you go" kinda thing anyway.
BUIS are great in theory if all the stars align: you have a optic mount that easily detaches. Im all for BUIS if they dont hinder the operation of the rifles and its assets AND the positioning of those assets for max comfort and ergonomics for the shooter. Lets say i have a standard issue m4 with acog. If im competent, my acog will be torqued properly to the point i cant remove it without a screwdriver or multitool. While in contact, its a bit too optimistic to think you'll get that off in time. Thats one of many arguments that can be made for and against BUIS
I feel better having BUIS on all my rifles, better to have them and not need them than to need them and not have them! I also like prism scopes because of the etched reticle, 3 or 5X. I actually enjoy shooting with iron sights.
The sheer amount of tech dedicated to spotting optics may mean your "back up irons" need to be your primary system. Reports of an active russian capability to detect an optic, then shoot a laser into it. (Or just laz the location for artillery) Consider your a/o & opfor
I really don't like having the iron sights buried to the point where you have to remove stuff from the rifle to be able to use them. If you cant access the iron sights regularly your unlikely to remember you have them, and even if you do, you certainly haven't been practicing with it!
if you ever got stuck in a high altitude nuclear detonation (not call of duty reference at all) you'll need your iron sights (not modern warfare reference at all)
I hate that lollipop rear BUIS you showed. I used that as a primary a while and every time you move around that flimsy elevation gets knocked off. Every time. It rubs against something and your elevation is knocked off. Bad design for a fighting sight. Pain in the ass.
I don't use BUIS on my Ar, mostly because there isn't enough space with the magnifier behind my red dot. It'd be cool if it fit, but the economy of space just isn't in my favor
@@Kinetic.44 I could put it on the handguard I suppose, I suspect it would be susceptible to zero shift though. if I could show you a pic you'd see the top rail space is well accounted for. I honestly don't think I could fit anything on there aside from maybe a 45° red dot on the handguard. Which would be a bit wild to run with an eotech
What is the sight picture supposed to be when using the 300m setting on the rear sight? When shooting at 300m i have to switch to a 6 o'clock hold instead of holding dead-on. If i use the 200m zero setting I just compensate slightly over the target.
If you want a "Dead On" hold for a man-shaped target at 300, try either the 25/300 Zero or 36/300 Zero The 50/200 had an average of 6-8 inches of drop from point of aim at 300, depending upon bullet weight and barrel length The advantage of the 25 Zero is it is easy to set up, with US Military Zeroing targets, its disadvantage is it has a high vertical spread from 50 to 300 The 36 Zero has a much tighter vertical string of fire of approximately 4-6 inches, the disadvantage is past 300, the trajectory requires much higher holds
@@The_Assassin_of_The_Grayyou need to include the units. It's a 25m zero, vs a 36 *yard* zero. 25m also does not get you a 300m zero, it gets you a 330-340m zero; you need to either zero at 30m, or apply a 1.5MOA offset (impacting below point of aim) after zeroing at 25m. That is also only for m4's and m16's firing 55gr or 62gr 5.56, which can be significantly faster than equivalent .223
I hate the issued matech sights. Aperture is fine but the whole unit is massive and the range adjustments are useless outside of camp perry. All 1x sighting solutions should have a point blank zero set to whatever max distance you want (300, 400, whatever you can zero with the tightest rise and fall in between) and then don't touch it. You're not going to reliably see a man size target behind the fat front sight post past like 300 anyway. The little line setting on them is for zeroing an M16 btw. Found that out after nobody could tell me what it was for when I was in.
45 degree off set mounts for the BUIS is an option as well if you don't have QD optic mounts and might even be quicker for transition than pulling the optic off in order to get back in the fight.
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On your 45s you like flip up or fixed best?
@@Hill_Billy_Without_A_Hill Fold up, they're BUIS, the possibility of me having to use them is slim so I want them out of the way as much as possible.
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Carrie handle gang for the win
Backups are obligatory/ mandatory, no question. Outstanding brother!!! 👊
Thanks for watching and commenting.
You'd be surprised by the number of people I've seen in person and others posting on the web who refuse to buy and use BUIS. They say BUIS are obsolete and/or outdated and truly believe their optic is all they need. They laugh when presented with scenarios where BUIS are needed. Good video as always. Thank you for your time.
Thanks brother, I could give two shits what those guys do with their own rifle. When you train enough and/or deploy you see first hand things occasionally fail. I would have never thought about ice forming on my optics/PEQ if I didn't didn't experience it first hand. Thankfully it was in training, lesson learned. How often will you have to result to BUIS, hopefully never... but sh-t happens, I'd rather have them then not, they weigh nothing.
That’s because the scenarios are just not applicable to most civilians. You’re not going to be fighting in a trench in Ukraine, you’re not going to be LRRP patrolling in SHTF (you have a day job still and have a family to protect), and they are next to useless in night scenarios. Be honest with yourself and understand the argument people are making before attacking it. If you think you are going to be fighting Chinese paratroopers in trenches in your backyard, good on you, but at least realize what a silly scenario that is before doing mental gymnastics to justify BUIS.
@@depthcharge126 LOL Day Job in SHTF LMAO get off the internet and stop playing COD. Look here sonny, you be honest with yourself. You have no real world experience. Don't try to BS someone who does. You need BUIS but hey you do you. Good luck with your day job LMFAO.
@@depthcharge126 SHTF globally and everyone left alive will be in a trench. That's what one of the definitions of SHTF means. Yes, it can be a home intruder or it can be WW3, but you never know which one is coming. You do what you think is best. I ain't judging but I will add some perspective to the chat.
Hey honey, Brent's giving me a refresher on sights. I'll be in the garage for a while 😂
Ditto
Same Same
@9:17 I believe that's made by Matech. That's what I was issued in the army as a BUIS.
During my Army Infantry days everyone used the M-16a1, back in 1977. There were no optics of any kind. There was 4x power scope that was made to mount on that "carry handle." Made with a simple crosshair. One guy in the mortar mortar Platoon ordered one. It was very difficult to zero. It was a waste of money. Lot's of better options are available today. ACOG's, red-dot's, low power variable optics, laser emitters, infrared. Back in the day iron sights were all that was available and dependable. Only night vision was Startlight night vision. It was like carrying a concrete block on your M-16a1. Used an odd ball, special battery. Like I said a lot of things are vastly improved today. One of the better things is those blood clotting powders. Saved a lot of lives so far.
I will not say there was much improvement when they switched from C-rations to MRE's. Nasty is still nasty.
Yup, its crazy how much has changed in relatively a short period of time.
Would an MRE be classified as a "bag nasty"?
In all seriousness train with irons first. Also there is no glass reflection to worry about.
Can not understand this new trend of NOT having back up sights. Its a rant i go on quite often. Great work!
This video makes me realize that in my time in the Marine Corps I haven't gotten much time practicing with iron sights. It seems unimportant but if we're expected to practice how we play there should be ranges or at least range time dedicated to swapping from optics to iron sights. Your video give guys like me who are still in topics to think and reflect about to better ourselves as warfighters
Yup, another neglected aspect is passive aiming thru NVGs. Most units don't even bother training or even discussing it. A peer on peer fight is not going to permit IR lasers flashing around. Going to take blood to change minds unfortunately.
💯. Made changes to my rifle before a class and forgot to locTite the optic in my hurry to get it zeroed (I know). When my optic rattle off in a drill, I tried to switch to my day laser but forgot the Bikini cover was on. I was too focused on setting the laser to the correct setting and timed out pressing the button wondering why it wouldn’t work. Switching to a backup laser when off isn’t fast. It requires dexterity and thought when it’s off. I put my buis back on after that and now make sure my laser is on. If you don’t agree with buis because you have a laser, you should be making sure it’s on and working before relaying on.
I was using an EOTech once and sighted in with stock fully extended. Went to the range and couldn't hit squat. After the range, I realized my stock was completely collapsed.
Its crazy, these things happen, completely unexpected and come out of nowhere.
@@douglashenrysr748 that shouldn't make a difference?
The M4 sight is made by Matech - we are issued them in the Army. Might have gotten a few bad or worn out ones but I do not like them as they don't seem to hold the elevation setting very well.
Ah, I'm the early bird. Hello Brent! Excellent video.
Outstanding
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An etched reticle and BUIS is the way. Solid advice, especially for all the guys that think backing up their primary optic with an angled red dot is a solution. What if battle damage or dead batteries that you no longer can get replacements for occurs, then what? Irons work 100% of the time and if you know how to use them, you'll never be out of the fight. Semper Gumby!
Iron sights do soooo much without any considerable amount of weight and put up with it all. I❤ my Matech & F marked FSP.
Good video. I did a little bit of off hand night/winter training at a range I knew I could go to. It was a good experience. And fog proof to your list of benefits with irons.
Two main things I learned: It does not take much water for an AR rifle to seize up. Dropped it in the snow when I walked out, snow melted and froze up my hammer and safety. The second, breathing in cold weather fogged up my stuff really easy, and my eye pro.
Yup, winter warfare is a different beast. More folks should expose themselves with it. Lots of lessons learned come out of operating in a cold weather environment, especially wet/cold.
Very much agreed 👍
I'm an old salty Marine sea dog from the mid 90's to the mid 2000's and I was a PMI. My entire time in we had the M-16A2 with fixed iron sights with Marines qualifying the KD course which as any Marine knows extends to 500 yards, with iron sights of which Marines did very well hitting a man sized target at that distance without magnification. Today, I have an LPVO, with a 12 o'clock RMR and BUIS. My front sight is fixed, only my rear is flip up.
Woah! Hold on a second…where do I put the battery, and does it have a NV setting?
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Iron sights are like manual transmission cars. They are more fun, and make you a better aimer.
Fact
Can't get behind the fact that rifles are sold without them anymore. They used to come standard and weren't mentioned now it's used as an "upgrade " and shouldn't be so. Good idea if going to use different ammo zero one to this ammo and your primary electronic sights to another round or another distance
I'd rather get no irons than the shitty irons companies are willing to give for free.
I'd rather choose the irons I like
@@TerranPlanetaryDefenseForce this is my point exactly. Firearms used to be made and sold at a higher standard and now we accept this. That sucks in my opinion
There is a practical reason as well, as the customer, you may not like the included back up sights. Often they are the MagPul plastic MBUS which are not bad, but still fragile compared to steel. Or you have a make and model that you prefer more, like the Knight's BUIS
Just like the Glock, even included back ups for most AR15s are the first thing to go
So long as the rifle is worth your money, not including backup sights are at worst, an inconvenience
As for different Zeros for different weight bullets, as The Great Paul Harrell says, often "There is not enough of a difference to make a difference"
@@timjohnson8390 bro, even if they came with KAC Iron Sights for free, I'm taking them right off and selling them (actually tbh I collect KAC sights so I'd keep them for fun)
I don't want whatever sights the manufacturer thinks I want. I'd rather they cut that cost and I buy what I want. I'm paying good money for a good rifle. I simply DO NOT WANT some backup sights to factor into the cost at all. They're such a non issue.
More of a case for the Primary Arms SLX line of prisms. Etched reticle can't be beat, tough to boot, & that ACSS reticle is all about business. Only need to run the illumination in low-light situations.
But Brent.. All the cool guys say we don't need them anymore.
Great video Brent!
Thanks brother.
Great reality check.
Why not use the 90 degree offset gangster tilt iron sights?
The one is none and two is one rule applies to sights; a quick backup. I have had a small amount of mud come down from above and block the rear apature of a M16A1. Scary when you don't note it in the rain and find just enough mud to block that small hole as you raise your weapon. We didn't have a second or third sight option...and were forbidden to add a second if we had one. After leaving the Corps, I maintain at least two on serious social situation rifles. Great discussion.
Range officer at a range i go to saw me with an Eotech and told me how in combat his went down (back when they had quality issues and the battery terminals coming lose). He didnt have back up irons and was screwed.
Another thing. If you don't have quick release of your primary and plan on and are able to use your backups through your optic glass, make sure you check the zero of your irons "though" your optic glass. It has been proven that the refraction from the glass can change your zero.
I see a new Brent vid i watch
Good information and great presentation as always.
a QD optic in the pocket is also a viable backup if the main optic breaks
I had a bad experience with a A2 front sight gas block with a magpul rear sight that made me a less discipled using irons, which led to interest in walking up onto targets, which led to interest in the ACSS reticle to mitigate the need for walking up or combine that. I hope to get an A2 rear sight without the carry handle to get more serious about shooting with irons. Also love support for trijicon because they are a good christian company.
LMT makes a quality A2 Rear Sight that omits the carry handle portion and still allows room for an EO Tech or Aimpoint for co-witnessing your sights
You may never need Back Up Irons, but it costs you nothing to have them
Of course there's a cost
Very helpful info, thanks
I have had to switch to irons in a couple of competions. They are essential. also essential is having a way to get the optic out of the way. If your optic is permently mounted without a quick release and you just flip up your back up irons you will still be trying to look through a non functional optic.
Common sense at work, thanks for sharing.
Perfect timing, I put the Matech BUIS on my M16A4 and am looking for instructions and tips👍
Yup, agreed!
Good stuff. I really like 45 degree offset irons, they do feel natural as was stated. I don't like backing up tech with tech, also if one does not wish to use QD mounts or pay for them, just duct tape an allen/torx wrench to the buttstock.
Yup, good comment.
One of my rifles i have an acog on with a QD mount and my main fighting rifle is a red dot/3x magnifier combo and both rifles have flip up irons on them ... my red dot rifle cowitnesses the irons so i dont need a QD mount also the red dot has front and back clear flip up covers if dirty i can flip them up or take em off. As a marine vet myself we dont think that far off brother
Co-witnessing is fantastic, If I have any 1X optics on my rifles that is a absolute must for me.
Thanks for sharing this video.
Thanks for watching
another fantastic video by the best!
Thanks
Sights on the A2 were are the Apotheosis of Perfection.Back in 80's ,Wide Aperture for inside 300 Meters Actuall y 250,300 and Beyond Small Apertures.
Great video,the topic is well thought out! Iron sight rock,optics are the tool to handle the chaos of battle. Thanks for sharing this with us!! 💪 🤝👊👍👍🤝🫡
Look into a ratchet Allen wrench set it works quick
The MaTech BUIS (mainly issued to US Army) is made by MaTech Solutions; while the one made by Knight's Armament (KAC) is the micro flip up rear sight (mainly issued to the Marine Corps).
Good info! I usually end up spending more time searching for BUIS I like than optics. I prefer the FSB and co-witnessing red dots on most of my ARs and am always 'fudding' with the rears. I like those 45 degree mounted BUIS for an LPVO rifle - doesn't get 'quicker' for go to.
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Used Iron Sights all my life. Yes, optics have come a long way, but anything that requires batteries can quite on you. Not saying that will happen often, but it would be critical if it happened in a fight.
And today's younger generation are optic dependent and seldom, if ever, train with iron sights. It is my belief that they should train heavily with iron sights due to the mentioned difficulty experienced by the author of this video with weather related issues. Fewer moving parts, fewer things to go wrong. 😏
On a personal note, at 74, after cataract surgery in both eyes, my distance vision is incredible, but I can't use optics. However, Iron Sights are perfect for my situation. So like in my experience over the years with iron sights, accurate shooting is as natural as shouldering a rifle.
Anyway, that's my 2 cents worth. 😐
Yes!!!!!
My experience with the AR, you really want that large aperture for night time or low light use. And a tritium front sight. Pulling numbers out of my ass, I'd say the AR sight system reduces light hitting your eye by 40% with the big aperture and 70% with the small aperture. So a strong light is needed to use them in low light/dark. Lots of candela. Right now I like the Trigicon front sight the best.
In the rain, the small aperture can clog with water. One more reason I love having a dual aperture rear.
I was told to take a safety pin, put on your uniform, and use that to clear AR sights of mud, ice, snow. It works.
The best irons, in my experience, are the AK irons because you can clear snow or mud from them quickly and if you have an "express sighting system" it allows excellent light transmission to your eyeball at night or in low light. XS Sights for the AK (tritium) are simply awesome.
Also, understand that irons ought to be sighted in without the optic mounted unless you plan to only use the irons in the event that a optic dies.
If you sight in irons with the optic then remove the optic and use the irons, your zero will shift. At 100-150 yards I find it's acceptable for an emergency situation, but zero will DEFINITELY shift.
Likewise, if you zero with the irons, then slap on a RDS, and tune it to the irons, you will still want to zero the optic. The zeros will be different.
Irons really benefit from you having a consistent eye placement. I use "nose to charging handle" on an AR. Extremely fast and consistent for me. I can consistently do sub 1-second ready-ups with the small aperture rear and get A-zone hits at 15 yards.
But whatever you do, be consistent. And practice practice practice.
This is why the see through pass through that those carry handle mounts for optics on top of carry handle retro ar's actually offer a bunch of advantages as you can still use the iron sights in a pinch under the reddot optic incase the reddot went out for some reason or visibility was low due to the optic being messed with by adverse conditions. Also those carry handle optics mounts allow nightvision mount height without a overly expensive mount; of course don't use a crappy mount regardless on a real AR. A.R.M.S mount or bust on a real firearm, for my airsoft CAR-15 a 20$ mount fits great, A.R.M.S mount is not in Canada and like 100$ or something. Still cheaper then a unity riser I think, and you get better less neck strained cheek chin weld or even just naturally hovering the weapon Infront of you inline with your head and proper shouldering and still have the ability to use irons via the tunnel inside the mount. ;)
All on a classic gun build we have already been doing for a while now but people forget that's an option.
Im still rocking irons on my AR😂. Hopefully soon ill be able to get an optic for it.
11B here. I'm not the best at iron sights and am much better with optics, but I do prefer them over optics.
Lol that's cause your an army 11b .... every single marine 0311 or not know how to use and are good at using iron sights
Outstanding video Marine! Are you in the Southeast Texas area? That’s where I’m looking to relocate.
Thanks, no I'm in north Texas.
2:01 I definitely question the decision of packing a PMAG D60 into adverse conditions like this. I wouldn't rely on one of those on a good day lol
I've owned 2 and never had a single problem with them. I train in adverse conditions as well.
@@fujimi715 if the difference in being pretty sure my mag will work and knowing my mag will work is 1.5 seconds, I’m taking 30’s. To each their own!
@@coopers1716 Brent and his crew routinely run weapons such as squad automatic type setups. There's a reason they had a 60rd drum
Good video Brent, but old school here. I'll stick with my irons.
BUIS only weigh a few ounces even for steel ones, and then maybe a few more for a QD mount instead of the standard one for a given optic (or the 45 offset that I've also found to be very natural for use in all but the shooting positions that would be awkward regardless of sight method). Theyre also balanced front and back so its not like its adding a ton to a fulcrum effect from the front sight.. For me theres no reason not to run them, the biggest downside argument I could see would be some are very spendy, but a little research and checking reputable reviews can still point you in the direction of one's that wont break the bank for a newer owner while still being durable and reliable or ones that are a bit more expensive but have extra features that someone more experienced might want. And really an optic QD mount upgrade is the most expensive of the two, which is an easy "upgrade as you go" kinda thing anyway.
Every rifle should have Tavor x95 style iron sights.
BUIS are great in theory if all the stars align: you have a optic mount that easily detaches. Im all for BUIS if they dont hinder the operation of the rifles and its assets AND the positioning of those assets for max comfort and ergonomics for the shooter.
Lets say i have a standard issue m4 with acog. If im competent, my acog will be torqued properly to the point i cant remove it without a screwdriver or multitool. While in contact, its a bit too optimistic to think you'll get that off in time.
Thats one of many arguments that can be made for and against BUIS
And BUIS soak up what little eye box the ACOG has.
That being said, BUIS where and when appropriate!
@@hateferlifeyou can mount your irons in front of an optic, like what the Canadians and Danes do
I feel better having BUIS on all my rifles, better to have them and not need them than to need them and not have them! I also like prism scopes because of the etched reticle, 3 or 5X. I actually enjoy shooting with iron sights.
Hey Brent, I have a question, how many troops are in the battalion and how many deploy?
The sheer amount of tech dedicated to spotting optics may mean your "back up irons" need to be your primary system. Reports of an active russian capability to detect an optic, then shoot a laser into it. (Or just laz the location for artillery) Consider your a/o & opfor
I honestly find it crazy that this even needs to be said about a fighting gun.
If it's not a Q.D. mount I have Allen key, Torx key, Etc. on rifle & 2 others on me
I really don't like having the iron sights buried to the point where you have to remove stuff from the rifle to be able to use them. If you cant access the iron sights regularly your unlikely to remember you have them, and even if you do, you certainly haven't been practicing with it!
Sound advice brother 👊
Give me top 3 camos for TEXAS mr brent?
One is none and two is one . Murphy's Law what could go wrong will go wrong.
Absolutely!
if you ever got stuck in a high altitude nuclear detonation (not call of duty reference at all) you'll need your iron sights (not modern warfare reference at all)
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Eyy im early! What’s up sir 😮
I hate that lollipop rear BUIS you showed. I used that as a primary a while and every time you move around that flimsy elevation gets knocked off. Every time. It rubs against something and your elevation is knocked off. Bad design for a fighting sight. Pain in the ass.
I don't use BUIS on my Ar, mostly because there isn't enough space with the magnifier behind my red dot. It'd be cool if it fit, but the economy of space just isn't in my favor
@@Kinetic.44 I could put it on the handguard I suppose, I suspect it would be susceptible to zero shift though. if I could show you a pic you'd see the top rail space is well accounted for. I honestly don't think I could fit anything on there aside from maybe a 45° red dot on the handguard. Which would be a bit wild to run with an eotech
What is the sight picture supposed to be when using the 300m setting on the rear sight? When shooting at 300m i have to switch to a 6 o'clock hold instead of holding dead-on. If i use the 200m zero setting I just compensate slightly over the target.
If you want a "Dead On" hold for a man-shaped target at 300, try either the 25/300 Zero or 36/300 Zero
The 50/200 had an average of 6-8 inches of drop from point of aim at 300, depending upon bullet weight and barrel length
The advantage of the 25 Zero is it is easy to set up, with US Military Zeroing targets, its disadvantage is it has a high vertical spread from 50 to 300
The 36 Zero has a much tighter vertical string of fire of approximately 4-6 inches, the disadvantage is past 300, the trajectory requires much higher holds
@@The_Assassin_of_The_Grayyou need to include the units. It's a 25m zero, vs a 36 *yard* zero. 25m also does not get you a 300m zero, it gets you a 330-340m zero; you need to either zero at 30m, or apply a 1.5MOA offset (impacting below point of aim) after zeroing at 25m. That is also only for m4's and m16's firing 55gr or 62gr 5.56, which can be significantly faster than equivalent .223
I hate the issued matech sights. Aperture is fine but the whole unit is massive and the range adjustments are useless outside of camp perry.
All 1x sighting solutions should have a point blank zero set to whatever max distance you want (300, 400, whatever you can zero with the tightest rise and fall in between) and then don't touch it. You're not going to reliably see a man size target behind the fat front sight post past like 300 anyway.
The little line setting on them is for zeroing an M16 btw. Found that out after nobody could tell me what it was for when I was in.
I still use a carry handle 😂
That sight is matech.
45 degree off set mounts for the BUIS is an option as well if you don't have QD optic mounts and might even be quicker for transition than pulling the optic off in order to get back in the fight.
As talked about and demonstrated in this video.
@@Brent0331 sorry. I missed that then since there was a lot of distractions going on when watching.
Dont show this to TrenchGrenade
I’m glad to live in a generation where I can learn more about the military than some people who are in the military 😂 thanks for doin what you do dude!
My buis are worth more than my red dot 🤷
Tech is great, but it goes down occasionally. End of story
Don't most modern optics have built in iron sights anyway now?
Totally useless.
lolo. pass on the back ups too much shit bruh. cant see the target anyway. maybe i should have a back optic to the optic.
What