Why Deku Vs Asta Isn't Close
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- čas přidán 1. 08. 2024
- Deku Vs Asta, the underdogs of new-gen anime. Today Tuckalmighty delves into how the protagonists My Hero Academia & Black clover have evolved since Death Battle last explored the topic in 2022. And I'm not gonna lie, this quickly devolved into Why Deku Vs Asta Isn't Close.
Born without superpowers in a world of heroes and without magic in a world of wizardry, both faced seemingly insurmountable challenges. However, with a dash of divine plot intervention, they rose through the ranks of their respective series' power scaling hierarchy.
So today we've got to learn-- if the two final saga shonen's squared off-- would the newfound power of Deku's gear shift, Fa-Jiin fusion, the reality warping Overdrive. Be able to truly compete with the insane new abilities of Asta's Zetten.
If you liked this video and want to see more? Be sure to check out Why Big 3 Vs Dark Trio, also? Isn't very close.
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[ Timestamps ]
0:00 Intro
1:32 Deku Recap
3:33 Deku's Many Quirks
5:43 What's Changed For Deku?
10:36 Deku's Scaling
13:53 How Does Asta Compare?
14:19 Asta's Scaling
15:48 Who Wins?
16:30 Conclusion
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No way people are actually comparing 😭😭😭😭
dnt mess with MHA fan commu 😭😭
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Yeah Asta stomps in every way imaginable. He's stronger, faster, more durable, has better range, and better hax. All Deku has over him is intelligence. Asta even is probably more skilled and a better fighter, so even Deku's Battle IQ won't help him much here.
I do like that you put respect on Izuku tho, him being Continental and FTL is a lot better than most scalers I've seen scaling him. He's somewhat underrated in versus debates, but even then, Asta just kind of bullies him lol.
All in all, fire video - can't wait for the next one!!! 🔥
I mean he put up a Hell of a Fight to Asta he was able to give Asta a huge run for his Money
And he also does have more abilities than him but that's about it in a lot of people claim that Deku is a genius in a fight but none of that has actually really helped him win ex deku vs overhaul
@@talmadgeholloway2734 deathbattle's inaccurate head cannon as always
@@mockouchiha7579 eh, not really. The fight is just for entertainment so they make it look closer than it actually is. And in the post analysis they do explain how big the gap between the two is
I thought it was gonna be Manga deku vs Base asta… I started laughing when he said post-zetten 😂 like cmon
Good video.
As a Black Clover fan, I don't get why people treat Deku like he's trash. Obviously, Deki isn't as powerful as Asta but that doesn't make him weak.
Edit: Also, I totally get the idea behind why Anti-Magic would work on One for All. But I think Anti-Magic not working against One for All makes things more interesting.
5:24 It's a bit of a shortcut here, Fa-Jin allows Deku to store kinetic energy by repeating movements (for example, if he moves his arm several times while activatin Fa-Jin, kinetic energy will be stored in that said arm), and then unleash them to move faster and stronger than he normally could, that's why he was able to move as if he was at 100% against Lady Nagant, however, once the kinetic energy stored is used, Deku would have to store it again
9:50 aaah...i was afraid of this one, that's not really the case, Deku didn't bend space or reality with his speed, he bend the laws of physics, because of gearshift allowing him to accelerate while ignoring intertia, but it became so strong that it slightly passes out the laws of physics (and not reality, which is different), and there's also another difference between bending and breaking the laws of physics
13:04 I'm sorry, but I have to disagree here, mha's physics are likely the same as our world's physics, and in our laws, such a speed is theoritically impossible for matter, not to mention that a sudden acceleration like this would kill anyone because of the number of G that the user would have to handle. Even in gearshift, I still don't believe that 120% Deku is light speed yet.
Besides, (even if we can't really count that since it's not something that could be used), in a world that seems to follows our physics, being FTL isn't a little feat, and I do believe that it would've been stated if he was able to go at that speed, especially when you know how many comparisons Horikoshi has done to let us visualize the strength of his characters
13:07 If those are IEM waves, I don't understand how it can go faster than light, I mean, IEM exists in our world, and as of now there hasn't been a single IEM wave faster than light (well...it's impossible so...)
13:15 Well...they can use light speed attacks, but I don't know if we can really use these to scale the speed of someone, I mean...Mina Ashida in the second season was able to dodge Aoyama's navelaser, and I doubt anybody will say that she's light speed
15:30 I'll say that Asta, the first time Licht appears, is at light speed, because of some statements, however, I can agree about him being relativistic, because we could add his Ki sensing to the calculation
16:13 I disagree, I don't think Asta's anti-magic can negate Deku's quirks, because quirks are supposed to be genetical mutations that allows humans to have supernatural abilities, however, I don't think the quirks have any supernatural energy (which is what Asta can negate, not only magic)...Okay, I've never thought about the fact that they now have some sort of spiritual connexion...err...I can't really say in that case
I fully agree with you
why does this debate even alive both black clover and mha fans know deku is getting clapped by asta only those deku stans keep saying nosense that deku is outerversal or he immune to fate and reality because he change his future or ignore reality and some bs they can come up
no one unironically thinks deku is outerversal
@@theauditor3224 tell that to deku stans even the marvel thinks he universal because he could ignore inertia
There is one youtuber who thinks Deku can low diff Asta; the name is keiranboak @@cronus555
They also said Bakugo beats Yuno, Deku beats Tatsumaki (one punch man), and Yami loses to Deku.
@@Valstrax69 oh i know him
Everyone keeps talking about how he can bend reality but that's simply just dumb a hyperbole statement and to even call Deku faster than light is a huge stretch in my eyes when he needs to boost himself with something that doesn't last
No way this is still a debate
TBH? I’m not really sure if it is, but? No one has covered it in SUCH a long time- that I felt like their final saga counter parts just needed some love.
@@TUCKALMIGHTY ok
@@TUCKALMIGHTYshut up deku wins I don't know why you trying to do this power scale and just to prove your point even though your video suck
@@TUCKALMIGHTYno Deku wins I better not see any type of bias in this video I swear I'm going to expose you really badly
@@TUCKALMIGHTYdidn't you say tomera shiragaki is comparable to all my all of a sudden you say he's not him and Deku
Deku has NOTHING to threaten Asta with! XD
You should do a versus video on both series next.
You should watch broku’s black clover videos they are really good.
Asta has planetary ap with mftl speeds as Dorothy created a moon in her pocket dimension and Zagreb has been stated to be planetary multipul times.
Asta at country lvl I can get behind but he has a lot of consistent island lvl feats being continental is wild for deku. I was not sure on ftl mha but after this video it's definitely in the range
Put simply, Asta absolutely wipes the floor with Deku. With with the strength and versatility of Deku’s power, Asta’s own strength, battle smarts, and overall power thanks to the anti-magic, Asta is better. Death Battle’s cover of the two desperately tried to nerf down Asta to try to make it a “close fight” when realistically that’s not the case.
Did they because I personally didn't see that
@@Keith_Norman oh no, they did
@@B3N_CZcams oh no I saw the episode and I know the federal does sometime try to make it more closer than it will ever be but I didn't really see that there and this is all surround the time when astas new form wasn't exactly confirmed how powerful
@@Keith_Norman it was plenty confirmed. If anything they completely ignored Zennin. The new power system from the land of the sun. But they give Deku his new power that *Barely* made it to the manga? Nah. They try to rig it
@@B3N_CZcams I mean not really we barely knew anything about Asta new power a while we knew a fair bit about gear shift and you can't say that it was rigged when if you actually pay attention to the results and the scaling you would know that it's not really close at all in their analysis all they gave him was IQ and abilities
Cool video
Always appreciate it! Hope you check out some of our other stuff.
Deku's powers inside of him would be like, boy why you fighting him.
I checked to see and I had a feeling you made a video about this!
Yeah, no two ways about it, Deku doesn't win, but this video gave him the scaling he deserved.
Well the Black Clover movie is canon it’s not manga canon but it is anime canon because it takes place at end of the Elf arc and the very beginning of the spade kingdom arc so his Meteor feat alone and plus his Devil Union Demon Slasher sword form can literally cut whatever the fuck he wants to including reality itself yeah no there’s way Deku is getting anywhere near Asta 😂😂😂
Love the vids man!
And I, appreciate the nice comments! Thanks as always.
Good scaling on Deku 👏.
Don’t know pretty much anything about black clover, but 1 thing I can say about dekus ps is that we won’t know until we see his full strength, then we will have a true test of strength.
Deku needs to easily beat a continental threat to stand a chance.
Hope mha continues to the end of dekus years at ua
These two are not ready yet plus asta in the Manga left of were he shared his anti magic with his friends and deku has gotten two new forms were he can use black whip as armor and even make his bones and muscles stronger and he can lift part of the ground he is given the nick name carnage deku because he grew claws and has black whip tendrils coming out of his back also black whip is helping him move his whole body even though his bones are broken see chapter 413 414 and 415
You forgot to mention the statements that Shigaraki is planetary, which would put Deku at planetary+.
In chapter 377 of the manga, Mandalay is talking about Shigaraki to everyone on the battlefield, and says “the deadliest villain of all is about to be unleashed! Once U.A. Falls…All of Japan, no…THE ENTIRE WORLD…Will be destroyed by his hands.” Mandalay straight up said “The entire WORLD will be destroyed by his hands.” That is a statement straight from the manga that confirms Shigaraki is planetary level, and again, Deku is LEAGUES above Shigaraki.
I know some people will say “it’s hyperbolic”, but you can’t ignore the fact that throughout those next few chapters, we see that each hero is actively making a point to prevent Shigaraki’s hand from touching the ground, because they’re aware that his decay is powerful enough to destroy the earth. So not only do you have a statement that Shigaraki can destroy the earth, but you also have the ACTIONS of each hero trying to prevent Shigaraki from touching the ground. In other words, why would they make a statement about Shigaraki being planetary, while trying to prevent him from touching the ground, if he wasn’t really planetary all along? It wouldn’t make any sense.
In the next chapter, chapter 378, we see Shigaraki’s hand 5 inches away from touching the earth, and the fifth user reiterates that Shigaraki is going to destroy the planet by saying “Bad news kiddo!! The balance is broken! He’s starting up again!! We’re not in free fall anymore, but… …THE SECOND HIS HAND TOUCHES THE GROUND-“ and before he could finish his sentence lady nagant shoots Shigaraki’s hand off inches before Shigaraki’s hand made contact with the earth, because again they’re actively trying to stop Shigaraki from making contact with the earth, because everyone is aware that Shigaraki is going to destroy the earth if his hand touches the ground, and again Deku is leagues above Shigaraki, which would put Deku at planetary+.
There’s also the multi continental feat that Dabi performed by continuing the heat wave that he, his dad, and his brother started, to the point where is reached America from Japan, and obviously Shigaraki and Deku scale leagues above Dabi.
There's no reason the heroes would let him touch the ground. Also dc ap.
World ≠ Planet.
"Vladimir Putin is one of the most dangerous people on earth, if he goes crazy he would be a threat to the entire world". Does that mean Putin is planetary? Obviously not, when they say Shigaraki will destroy the entire world they are talking about the world as a society, not the planet.
The heroes were trying to prevent Shigarakai from touching the ground because if he does he could wipe every civillian, heroe, and building within his reach, which is barely city level reach.
Fifth user wasn't implying that shigaraki is planetary at all, I don't know where do you even get that idea.
I don't know what chapter that Dabi feat happens or if it's true or not, but even if it was RoE≠AP.
Asta is still Large planetary to dwarf star
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Why did you find the need to share this here
I am convinced the Asta hates comes from Black Clover being the "Bleach" of its generation, popular not not quite of much as the others.
Unironically Asta solos the MHA verse.
I enjoyed the deku scaling, but yeah, this is expected.
no one in mha is ftl they are close to LS put dont surpass
Debatable. But we were honestly trying to be pretty charitable with Deku's scaling here, to show how bad of a stomp it was. So feel free to take the calcs here, with a grain of salt.
Death battle literally said all this 😂
Dude this is what MHA fans deserve a beeting
maybe it would be closer if you use pre ts asta
It would indeed, though? I actually kind of think that Deku throttles PTS Asta? But, it’s definitely not a commonly held opinion, so? Maybe a future video lol.
@@TUCKALMIGHTYyeah pts asta doesnt have TOO much leverage ver deku for me, but its a stomp if its post time skip asta
@@GhHg-yu2by Pre-timeskip asta dodged light speed attacks in HIS sleep and destroyed an enemy who was able to evaporate an entire ocean, which is multi-contintal. So Pts asta would still beat Deku
@@mailman7804NO Deku is also multi-continental so it would have been close
@@Just_Indra it doesn't matter either way because Asta still wins, close or not close
Asta shits on him and his vers
Asta: speed attack durability and hax
Deku: IQ battle IQ and and abilities
Abilities would probably go to Asta too, since he has infinity slash equinox, causality break, fate release, black divider and zetten.
I would not say Deku take bIQ they both kind of have the same between them
Deku shit stomps 🫤
How exactly, lol?
Yeah in his dream
maybe on a written exam
Fax
if you're so confident he does so, elaborate my friend.
Nah I have to say Deku in the manga is washing Asta brutally 😭
Lol. I’m pretty sure everything post Devil Union is a wash for Asta.
Even the most absurd outlier high ball calcs for Deku (The Multi-Continental Super Cell is the highest I’m aware of)
Comes out to 10^26? And- even if you stack the 72x multiplier for Old Might to Prime Deku conversion the best you get is like? 10^28? (Or 10^29 for a hypothetical 100%) so barely scratching moon level? Even if you REALLYYYYY hype Deku up- and ignore everything else that contradicts it.
Asta- Oneshot 10^26 character in base- so? Just adding his multipliers? The fight doesn’t look too good for Deku, even ignoring that Deku has a time limit as well.
Just my thoughts though, any positive comments for Deku are appreciated- cause the slander for him is absolutely cold 💀
I can actually give him a 450 to 460 times a multiplier this is due to the fact that he scales higher than all for one who each time he transforms further and further backwards to the point where he ends up as a toddler. He grows stronger and becomes so powerful that his powers become unstable and all for one is extremely relative or equal to all might which means he would have the same 70 time. So it should be fine to use that same family times multiplier each time he transforms which gets him to 420 times stronger than all might and sugar rocky is stronger than him and it's a pretty significant guy. So I'd say something like 20 times aspheric even 10 would be okay and Deku is also stronger than him by 10 to 20 times as well so he would have a 460 times. Multiplier.
Oh and he also scales over a storm produced from Todoroki endeavor and Dabi which was stated to cover all of Japan and will soon cover all of North America and even geten could possibly scale to multi-continental because he can control the molecules of ice which is how he manipulates the temperature and he could possibly freeze over the entire ocean which is plausible due to him stating that he can use the plumbing that's under the city and turn it all into ice with ease.
And then considering the fact that stars and stripes produced a country level feat. And she said she's not on the level of All might and due to how all night is betrayed in the story as being the pinnacle of power, it seems like they wouldn't even be closed in terms of strain and he's still a high tier to this day. So it seems like you can even scale into multicontinental just based off that and then add on the 70 times multiplier for his prime. Then you add on the 460 times multiplier from Deku
And then on top of all that it stated in chapters 369 that Deku can basically punch so hard that he bends the laws of governing reality which would scale him higher than Asta and it definitely is his strength due to the fact that directly after him getting this power up, he performs a strength feat and it even states that he's doing it with his fist.
And you can actually get this up to universal due to the fact that it states he's bending the laws that govern reality, meaning the specific laws that keep reality binding together and prevent it from it being broken and it says reality in general. Meaning all of reality and reality contains the universe so you could get this up to universal
And for speed you can actually get deku to infinite speed due to him being able to move in 0 seconds in the manga when sugar. Rocky states that Deku is basically moving everywhere all at once. All at the same time when Deku was in front of him beside him below him over him and he can also punch instantaneously and can pull off a quintuple instantaneous Detroit smash and he has no need for acceleration which allows him to bypass the laws of inertia meaning he can instantaneously stop and speed up and he also has no speed limit with gear shift
So in all honesty, I really don't think that pasta would even be able to land a blow if we put them in their strongest forms, especially due to the fact that Deku's reaction speed would also scale to him moving instantaneously due to the fact that he's processing everything perfectly, wow moving at these levels of speed
Oh, and his durability scales directly towards his strength and in chapter 404 we found out that Deku can actually change fate.
My guy went on a yap session 💀
@@marvelmaniacs1yeah that changing statement is a hyperbole and shoto and Dhabi creating that storm is more of range of power and nothing you said even comes close to Asta who is Continental to multi-continental
@@sidenote2854 You do realize for me to be yapping, I would have to be saying absolutely nothing that pertains to nothing in the video. Or just the topic in general, right? And I did the direct opposite of all of that.
Nah, Deku full power>Asta full power.
I keep on telling people
@@marvelmaniacs1 and you’re doing the right thing👍, the truth must be spoken openly.
@@user-qh2nv8qw9pbro asta can scale uni cause of Dorothy and he is comfortably high planetary
@getlllz3438 Asta can't scale to uni because of Dorothy, as even City level characters can create their dimensions with Islands and so on, but their own AP is still City level. Plus, Asta can use Dimensional Slash, he just destroy the structure of dimensions, not the dimension itself, so Asta is nowhere close to Uni ( with such logic I can say that Deku is Multiverse level, because he can warp laws of Reality and Multiverse is one of the laws of whole reality ), or I can say that OFA and AFO can easily destroy poket dimension which they create, whith copies of souls in it, so Deku is uni too ( as I said before, such arguments are just dumb ). Yeah, Asta could be scale to Planet-Large Planet level, but Deku easily scale to that level too. Plus, Deku is much faster then Asta. Deku can easily tank attacks which are 10 times stronger then his own. Deku is stronger then Asta
@@user-qh2nv8qw9p well just watch broku vid on asta scaling cuz I do t have enough time to debate on the topic but asta wins
No way people are actually comparing 😭😭😭😭