Cover Crop No Till v. Tillage Results

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  • čas přidán 27. 06. 2024
  • Top dressing fertilizer and examining the differences between No-till and conventional till grain sorghum. #farming ‪@georgiasouthern‬‪@GeorgiaSouthernUniv‬ #regenerativeagriculture #permaculture ​⁠‪@jwsoil‬

Komentáře • 76

  • @dennisjenkins7040
    @dennisjenkins7040 Před měsícem +4

    I'm always amazed by the non farmers that always know more than the farmer who is actually farming the land. It's a headscratcher for sure. You did a great job showing/explaining it. Yet there will still be haters out there that refuse to get it. Great job and carry on.

  • @gittyupg007
    @gittyupg007 Před měsícem

    Very good video! Ty 🙏🍉

  • @teresaperdue3371
    @teresaperdue3371 Před měsícem

    Excellent video!

  • @FailureatRetirement
    @FailureatRetirement Před měsícem

    Thank you for taking the time to try to educate non farmers. It’s probably some of the most important work that you will ever do and you’re great at it. 👍🏼🇺🇸

  • @gatorguy7711
    @gatorguy7711 Před měsícem +1

    A great discussion! I stopped by your market last Saturday and purchased some cream peas. You were very busy shelling peas. While waiting for the peas, I did have a great conservation with another customer (Matt) about the area and your channel. Thanks again Matt! We have already enjoyed the peas! Take care and be safe....

  • @michaelgriggs-lr9gh
    @michaelgriggs-lr9gh Před měsícem

    Thank you for getting the facts out. I'm up here in S.C.. Northeast part of the State. I wish I could get down there. Maybe sometime in the future. Take care God bless and keep em coming!😊

  • @gregrhodes8451
    @gregrhodes8451 Před měsícem

    God bless you and your family Patrick!

  • @user-oq7fj4ri2g
    @user-oq7fj4ri2g Před měsícem

    Enjoyed!!

  • @MrSparks701
    @MrSparks701 Před měsícem

    Patrick you are a great teacher. Thanks for sharing

  • @Kenny-ed1zi
    @Kenny-ed1zi Před měsícem

    Ohhhh yes i will believe how many will not find you after you give detailed directions! I wonder sometimes

  • @tugboat2739
    @tugboat2739 Před měsícem

    Howdy Patrick

  • @brycekirby1567
    @brycekirby1567 Před měsícem

    Thanks for this video and your explanations

  • @darryladams519
    @darryladams519 Před měsícem

    Have an old fashion dove shoot! Gotta love people telling others how to do their job and probably don't have have the first clue about what they are talking about. Keep up the good work sir.
    Patric Shivers for president

    • @PatrickShivers
      @PatrickShivers  Před měsícem +1

      @@darryladams519 No thanks! I have a degree in Political Science (from Georgia Southern) and NO DESIRE to be counted among the slimy beast that are today’s politicians

  • @edwinfaglie941
    @edwinfaglie941 Před měsícem

    Good video on explanation of different tillage methods.

  • @luisnunes7933
    @luisnunes7933 Před měsícem

    Hello, Patrick! Another fine video! Of course deep ripping pays...

    • @PatrickShivers
      @PatrickShivers  Před měsícem

      @@luisnunes7933 thanks for watching Luis! I always look forward to your greeting.

    • @luisnunes7933
      @luisnunes7933 Před měsícem

      @@PatrickShivers 👌

  • @mikehaas2380
    @mikehaas2380 Před měsícem

    Great vid Patrick! I have heavy clay soils and I always deep rip before I plant a crop👍🏻

    • @PatrickShivers
      @PatrickShivers  Před měsícem

      Thanks for watching Mike. Where do you farm?

    • @mikehaas2380
      @mikehaas2380 Před měsícem

      SW Michigan, got some of that red clay up here on my farm

    • @PatrickShivers
      @PatrickShivers  Před měsícem

      @@mikehaas2380 you do any hops or blueberries?……and do you pull for big blue or sparty? I prefer M-state. I have experimented (unsuccessfully) with growing hops. Thinking about putting in a few acres of blueberries. Georgia & Michigan are the blueberry states.

    • @mikehaas2380
      @mikehaas2380 Před měsícem

      No hops or blueberries yet, ph is a bit high(7.6) Maize and Blue here bud lol. Blueberries need real good irrigation which I’m still engineering yet👍🏻

  • @chrisbubba6000
    @chrisbubba6000 Před měsícem

    Great video your videos explain slot on farming where very dry here in north Carolina I don't think the yields going to be this year

    • @PatrickShivers
      @PatrickShivers  Před měsícem

      @@chrisbubba6000 yields are off and prices are down. I heard the banks are bracing for 30% of ag loans going into default

    • @chrisbubba6000
      @chrisbubba6000 Před měsícem

      @@PatrickShivers sounds like the 80s all over again

  • @markisb3585
    @markisb3585 Před měsícem

    We dove hunt alot after corn harvest here in Eastern North Carolina. Big on dove hunting

    • @PatrickShivers
      @PatrickShivers  Před měsícem

      @@markisb3585 early season behind corn here, late season behind peanuts.

    • @usmarshall336
      @usmarshall336 Před měsícem

      I hate that DeWitts sporting clay NC stop doing Dove Hunts!!

  • @MorganOtt-ne1qj
    @MorganOtt-ne1qj Před měsícem

    Ain't it amazing that people who use smart phones, pad and desktop computers, think that farmers should still be using 19th century methods and technology to raise the food that they are getting fat on? Totally rhetorical question, but I have asked people the same thing, and most are baffled by it. Your crops are looking good!😊

  • @SeanSweeney-vm2kk
    @SeanSweeney-vm2kk Před měsícem

    I have actually never seen a side by side comparison as you did today. The differences were striking. What this really shows me is that a good farmer needs to speak to his experts, and trust his instincts when it comes to managing his/her dirt. We can't assume that one way is a catchall. I read a study last month where notill actually hurt corn yield in multiple regions but, on the other hand soybeans seem to manage fine without tillage, and in some soil types can even thrive. Maybe I am greedy but by the looks of that shade of green I would subsoil and disc all things always. lol

    • @PatrickShivers
      @PatrickShivers  Před měsícem +2

      @@SeanSweeney-vm2kk on my ground, with my crops, subsoiling pays dividends. I’ve heard others, in different regions say they see a yield drop (on some of the same crops I grow) when they subsoil.

    • @SeanSweeney-vm2kk
      @SeanSweeney-vm2kk Před měsícem

      @@PatrickShivers it truly is wild, all those little variable all add up to make huger differences.

    • @PatrickShivers
      @PatrickShivers  Před měsícem

      @@SeanSweeney-vm2kk yep

  • @EDBZ28
    @EDBZ28 Před měsícem

    I'm no cover crop expert and definitely not an "early adopter" (we strip-till & use herbicides), but I think what they're advocating by telling us to plant into standing cover crops, is let the cover crop grow up really high (2-3' tall), then either roll & crimp ahead of planter, and plant into that bc when you allow the plant to get that height, as you roll and crimp it over, it then breaks the stem of the plant and lays on the ground and acts as ground cover holding moisture in, rotting down and smothering out future weeds. I have not tried this yet. We do frost seed medium red clover into our winter wheat and it usually turns out to become a good cover crop after the wheat is taken off mid-summer, but we do kill this off mid fall...it browns over winter, then we strip till into it come spring and plant corn.

    • @PatrickShivers
      @PatrickShivers  Před měsícem

      @@EDBZ28 down here our clovers grow during the coldest part of winter and die off during the summer heat. We plant clovers in October, they go to seed in March, disappear and new crop emerges in fall. The roller/crimper process you’re describing is what they call “green planting” or “planting green.” It is popular up north. Anything that grows during our summers isn’t killed by crimping. So if you plant into a green crop (even if crimped) the green crop will choke out whatever you planted. Planting into herbicide burn down cover crop or harvested wheat is very common here, but the rows are almost always strip tilled ahead. No till cotton has been tried a lot down here, but I’m not aware of anyone that tried it being in business the next year.

    • @EDBZ28
      @EDBZ28 Před měsícem

      @@PatrickShiversit comes down to the fact there’s no “cookie-cutter” approach to farming no matter how hard they try to make us think there is…I’ve gotten so I don’t even read the farm magazines anymore; nothing but propaganda from big Ag with an underlying agenda that benefits them in the end.

  • @segafarms
    @segafarms Před měsícem

    can you do a final yield video on the no till v. till for the same sorghum crop? Interested to hear the ROI on these two practices

    • @PatrickShivers
      @PatrickShivers  Před měsícem +1

      @@segafarms if it is harvested for grain I will certainly do that. If it is cut for silage it may be harder to measure.

  • @colefletcher-ox7xd
    @colefletcher-ox7xd Před měsícem

    Like you said the conventional tilled crop looks better I like conventional til better because it's a lot easier to get rid of compaction even though we're on a sandy loam soil compaction is still a big issue.

    • @colefletcher-ox7xd
      @colefletcher-ox7xd Před měsícem

      I subsoiled my sweet corn ground twice before I planted, about 14-18 inches deep that was as deep as my tractor could pull it, and now that I'm done harvest and getting ready to plant pumpkins it's as hard as a brickbat

    • @PatrickShivers
      @PatrickShivers  Před měsícem

      @@colefletcher-ox7xd rain will pack it tight

    • @colefletcher-ox7xd
      @colefletcher-ox7xd Před měsícem

      @@PatrickShivers that's probably what's going it

  • @CentralMississippiWhitetail

    yea im going back to breaking ground, pre on that and spray after..or cultivate 5 times

    • @PatrickShivers
      @PatrickShivers  Před měsícem +1

      @@CentralMississippiWhitetail I break all peanut ground (that’s standard down here). Level with field cultivator, then pre applied and cultivated once and watered in or cultivate twice if no rain/irrigation.

  • @MarshallLanier
    @MarshallLanier Před měsícem +1

    90% of the people criticizing us, are people who have been busy reading Old McDonald stories or playing farming games on the internet. They have absolutely no idea how a real working farm operates.
    And a vast majority of people tilling us that our practices are wrong, and our way of life is destroying the environment are people who have never set foot on a working farm.

  • @mailman4789
    @mailman4789 Před měsícem

    What was your tank mix for your burn down?

    • @PatrickShivers
      @PatrickShivers  Před měsícem

      @@mailman4789 I don’t remember off hand. It was a combination . I was sick so daddy planted all the grain sorghum and sprayed all but the last tank and a half. He had a recipe posted at the well, I mixed and sprayed the final 40-45 acres. I followed up with atrazine the day before this video was shot.

  • @Signaturegen2
    @Signaturegen2 Před měsícem

    Hi Patrick
    Have you ever had a rock issue in your soil ? Or was yours all rock free ?

    • @PatrickShivers
      @PatrickShivers  Před měsícem

      @@Signaturegen2 rock free on the land I farm, other than Native American artifacts. When I worked for my dad there was some rented ground we farmed south of here with some rocks in it.

  • @sirmatt6143
    @sirmatt6143 Před měsícem

    You said grasshoppers are in the no-til? And not in the plowed part?

    • @PatrickShivers
      @PatrickShivers  Před měsícem +1

      @@sirmatt6143 yes. They are seen in great number in all cover crop ground. (Doesn’t matter if it’s strip till or no-till). They like the cover crop residue.

  • @Notbendover
    @Notbendover Před měsícem

    Out of curiosity what did you study at GS?

    • @PatrickShivers
      @PatrickShivers  Před měsícem +1

      @@Notbendover I earned a BS In Political Science with a minor in Speech Communication

  • @greenboyatgafarms2250
    @greenboyatgafarms2250 Před měsícem +3

    Never listen to people who have never farmed. Also How do you sell your peas by the pound per dollar?

    • @PatrickShivers
      @PatrickShivers  Před měsícem

      @@greenboyatgafarms2250 by the bushel. 8 shelled pounds @ $40

    • @greenboyatgafarms2250
      @greenboyatgafarms2250 Před měsícem

      @PatrickShivers gotcha, do yall sell wiper snapper peas??? Just looking for advice on getting into sell some peas this year.

    • @PatrickShivers
      @PatrickShivers  Před měsícem

      @@greenboyatgafarms2250 no.

    • @ranchomoore
      @ranchomoore Před měsícem

      Where can I come get peas?

    • @PatrickShivers
      @PatrickShivers  Před měsícem +1

      @@ranchomoore 1300 w bluffton rd Fort Gaines Ga. Check with the MP Produce Facebook page to know when the farm store is open and what is available

  • @MarshallLanier
    @MarshallLanier Před měsícem

    As a boy in the early/mid 70s, it was not at all uncommon to ride down any road on a Saturday afternoon and see a line of cars and pickups pulled over to the side, and a group of people standing out in a corn field or millet field.
    You just pulled over, grabbed your shotgun, and walked out amongst them. Anyone was welcome. You shot a few birds, shot the bull with a few of your friends, and then headed back to the truck to listen to the 2nd half of Dooly's Dawgs playing whoever.
    Everybody knew everybody else and it was all good.
    Now you have to pay to shoot doves.

    • @PatrickShivers
      @PatrickShivers  Před měsícem

      @@MarshallLanier you nailed it, but left out the part about eating raw oysters on the tailgate.

    • @MarshallLanier
      @MarshallLanier Před měsícem

      @@PatrickShivers we'd haul tobacco to Brannen's warehouse in Statesboro on Saturday morning.
      Stop at Boyd's Barbecue for a sandwich around 11.
      Go shoot birds til about 3 or 3:30, and still have time to listen to Larry Munson call the second half of the Dawgs game on the radio while the grown men cleaned birds in the shade of a pecan tree and had a beer or two.
      My daddy never owned a stitch of camouflage, but he could hold his own in a dove field wearing an kakhi work shirt and using an old 16 gauge hump back Browning .
      That was 50 years ago and I remember it like it was yesterday

    • @MarshallLanier
      @MarshallLanier Před měsícem

      Still got that old scarred up, beat up Browning in my gun cabinet.
      That's the one thing I have that money can't buy.

    • @PatrickShivers
      @PatrickShivers  Před měsícem

      @@MarshallLanier them old hump backs may kick like a mule, but they won’t let you down. Is it Belgium made?

    • @MarshallLanier
      @MarshallLanier Před měsícem

      @@PatrickShivers yes sir.
      I have 3 of them. Light twenty, Sweet Sixteen, and Light twelve.
      They range in age from the late 1930s to the early 1950s.
      Daddy bought the sweet sixteen in 1946 with his mustering out pay from the Army