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  • Arthur Agee Hoop Dreams: Why Arthur Agee Didn't Make The NBA. Today’s feature is one of the real life hoopers chronicled in a movie called Hoop Dreams, that to me is a top 3 basketball movies of all time and it’s not 2 or 3. It took 7 years to make and was finally released in 1994. It discussed to young players that had the same dream of following the footsteps of local great Isiah Thomas and then city legend Michael Jordan into the NBA. Today we focus on Arthur Agee. A player who after re watching the movie, physically had all the characteristics of a pro player, except the one that altered his career. He even had mannerisms like Micheal Jordan that were crazy to see. Each step of the way he had all the opportunity to go all the way, but because of these reasons, things didn’t go as planned and he never achieved his dreams of becoming an NBA players. What Happened?
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  • @stuntedgrowth
    @stuntedgrowth  Před 2 lety +180

    Salute to Arthur Agee and Hoop Dreams. Classic basketball movie, my personal favorite basketball documentary of all time. It perfectly depicts the weeding out process in basketball, where one misstep can mean sacrificing your chance at one of the limited spots on an NBA roster. it also shows that life isn't over because one dream fails. Enjoy the video.

    • @chillywilliedfw9093
      @chillywilliedfw9093 Před 2 lety +2

      Facts, glad you decided to cover this story bro. Salute, no shade to Matt be great or Flemlo but you've got this market covered.

    • @lemonadepizzy
      @lemonadepizzy Před 2 lety +3

      FINALLY lol I think I asked for this 2 years ago thank u bro

    • @grahamrealty6395
      @grahamrealty6395 Před 2 lety +3

      The whole black father narrative you could've kept to yourself.

    • @onlyone23km
      @onlyone23km Před 2 lety +1

      I love the film, but it also makes me sad too.

    • @dowardwashington9958
      @dowardwashington9958 Před 2 lety +1

      This has to be my favorite basketball movie 🎬 ever, because it kept it 💯

  • @buzzerbeater3350
    @buzzerbeater3350 Před 2 lety +183

    For him to survive such deplorable circumstances and still have a productive life is in itself amazing.

    • @lefty206
      @lefty206 Před 2 lety +19

      Exactly. Making it to the league would have been completely insane, coming from his circumstances.. but he still made it to college and is productive in life which is a huge success if you ask me!

    • @doseloverstar1183
      @doseloverstar1183 Před 2 lety +4

      Should've made it. Pops was a victim of circumstance. Thought getting high was gonna cut it. Glad he's well.

  • @ThaMizphit74
    @ThaMizphit74 Před 2 lety +244

    Hoop Dreams is still an incredible documentary! A true classic. RIP to Arthur's pops too.

  • @henrywitherspoon8064
    @henrywitherspoon8064 Před 2 lety +59

    The scene with him & his dad playing 1 on 1 will forever be my favorite you want to see it rain let it rain

  • @1regularperson
    @1regularperson Před 2 lety +235

    Fun fact about the Hoop Dreams franchise: There was a follow up/sequel, titled “Hoop Reality” in which Agee returned to his former high school to mentor a young Pat Beverly.

    • @onlyone23km
      @onlyone23km Před 2 lety +10

      Yet according to Arthur, it’s not a sequel.

    • @1regularperson
      @1regularperson Před 2 lety +11

      @@onlyone23km that’s why I had to preface that it was very well a follow up as well as a sequel (in the eyes of many).

    • @jerodtabb311
      @jerodtabb311 Před 2 lety +5

      Damn I didn't know that but hoop dreams was a classic 💯🤞🏼💯💪

    • @TroyNallsSr
      @TroyNallsSr Před 2 lety +15

      That documentary, although low budget was AMAZING! It may have not have been a SEQUEL but it allowed us to see that AGEE, by giving back, is a real-life SUCCESS story

    • @lorenzopaden3860
      @lorenzopaden3860 Před 2 lety +3

      My second favorite hoop movie after( above the rim).

  • @Dakid4rmdade
    @Dakid4rmdade Před 2 lety +53

    His mom was so solid I wish he made the league just for her. His dad being in and out of jail and being on drugs was so heartbreaking. I wonder how different his journey would’ve been if his dad was around.

  • @Supreme36074
    @Supreme36074 Před 2 lety +83

    Basketball still paid off for him as he was able to attend college & get a degree so it’s definitely not all bad. Without basketball he would have been worse off in my opinion so the game still saved him 💯

  • @floridagator1765
    @floridagator1765 Před 2 lety +31

    Probably, my favorite documentary of all time. It was UNBELIEVABLE.

  • @bdiddy2k6
    @bdiddy2k6 Před 2 lety +17

    I grew up in the same neighborhood as Arthur and Isiah Thomas. I remember when Hoop Dreams first came out our school took us to see it and Arthur was there and spoke to us and signed autographs.

  • @drew8703
    @drew8703 Před 2 lety +59

    The best part of that movie was Agee's run to state his senior year, it felt triumphant and it took a lot for him to persevere through his high school years. I read that as an adult Agee mentored Patrick Beverley, which is also very cool. I think his story is impressive. He's a success, period.
    Also, what happened to Shannon?

    • @KevinWei24
      @KevinWei24 Před 2 lety +8

      I wish I knew. I remember Arthur said in the movie that he didn't hang out anymore after he got caught selling/doing drugs.

    • @Theterminato2013
      @Theterminato2013 Před rokem +5

      @@KevinWei24 From what I heard these days, Arthur said Shannon got out of jail and is doing well these days.

  • @MIA25NYC14
    @MIA25NYC14 Před 2 lety +86

    Unfortunately this occurs too often in the brown and black communities. As a black man, we have to show our children that education and resources are the keys to success. We also need to show our children the importance of providing a appropriate home setting for their best interests.

    • @williamrogers7974
      @williamrogers7974 Před 2 lety +5

      Amen! I coach some good kids with terrible home environments, and it's a futile effort

    • @DaBoff858
      @DaBoff858 Před 2 lety +6

      Could'nt have said it better, Sports can get your foot in the door for Free Education and more (Hopefullly). But a free College Degree is the Key. If ya'll have Children try and be a better Father to this generation we really need it. Stay smart and stay grinding everyone.

    • @hasadiahjones620
      @hasadiahjones620 Před 2 lety +2

      Thats every home my brother. The enemy is at work. Kill the head kill the family kill the community. You can control something easily if its already divided

    • @edscottable
      @edscottable Před 2 lety +3

      I’ve never heard these people labeled brown refer to themselves as brown

    • @Discipleofthelordandjesus
      @Discipleofthelordandjesus Před rokem +3

      @@edscottable you’ve never heard a Mexican say brown pride ? Yeah get out your house more.

  • @mrhoopfan1
    @mrhoopfan1 Před 2 lety +35

    Arthur had that charisma man.....dad chasing that dope high and supportive mother....was something many young men from hood could relate to, hard not to root for the dude

  • @ashtayenanceful
    @ashtayenanceful Před 2 lety +33

    Still my favorite documentary I wanted him and William to make it so bad 😔

  • @RENCE27
    @RENCE27 Před 2 lety +17

    Hoop Dreams is one of the greatest documentaries of all time, even for non sports fans,it a work of art

  • @Pacojuan43
    @Pacojuan43 Před 2 lety +27

    One of my favorite movies…crazy one didn’t make because of size, attitude, and academics and the other due to injuries and losing love of the game.

  • @goodfellabeats
    @goodfellabeats Před 2 lety +29

    Seen this movie so many times. Love it. Before reality TV came in and scripted everything, this documentary was real. It made me feel like these were dudes I knew from my neighborhood.

    • @onlyone23km
      @onlyone23km Před 2 lety +2

      It’s sad that in today’s era, reality TV isn’t so real, so they came up with the “unscripted” genre. They SHOULD both be the same, but thanks to The Hills, Laguna Beach and Jersey Shore, it’s not.

  • @kfUNC1
    @kfUNC1 Před 2 lety +43

    I remember getting the book from the library and reading it back in the mid-nineties. I didn’t see the movie until college. I’m looking forward to the video one the second player. And yeah, back then, every half way decent hooper was hoping Dean Smith, John Thompson, or Coach K was going to walk through that door and offer you that scholarship, realistic or not.

    • @onlyone23km
      @onlyone23km Před 2 lety +4

      Shit, I remember in 5th grade and beyond wanting to play for Dean, K or John in that order.

  • @onlyone23km
    @onlyone23km Před 2 lety +22

    I’ll NEVER forget the day I met William Gates at my old job! One of the greatest moments of my life!

    • @JH-us6zp
      @JH-us6zp Před 2 lety

      give arthur and will a follow on their podcast - czcams.com/users/HoopDreamsThePodcast

    • @onlyone23km
      @onlyone23km Před rokem

      @@JH-us6zp done!

  • @CruddyDave
    @CruddyDave Před 2 lety +21

    I still have this book in my house somewhere. The documentary is sad asf and real for a lot of people in the hood.

  • @larrellhill1386
    @larrellhill1386 Před 2 lety +18

    I watch this movie/documentary so many times I never get tired of it. Almost lol I watch it hoping for a different outcome lbs It’s just a great story overall from 2 different lives. Very happy to see you shed light on this

  • @jamaalhorton2343
    @jamaalhorton2343 Před 2 lety +6

    I met Arthur Agee one time in Kennedy King college! I was playing and was having a really good day! He was telling people in the crowd I was his cousin! Which was cool because anyone that knows anything about Chicago knows Kennedy King college is in the ABSOLUTE WORST Neighborhood in Chicago and I didn’t know anyone! He came over after the game and he gave me hug! Real nice dude!!!

    • @JH-us6zp
      @JH-us6zp Před 2 lety

      give arthur and will a follow on their podcast - czcams.com/users/HoopDreamsThePodcast

    • @larrybrown4268
      @larrybrown4268 Před rokem

      Much love bro thts my fam I’m a Agee from Polk Country FL and my birthday 10/3/1982

  • @Chris3900
    @Chris3900 Před 2 lety +21

    This is the definition of what stunted growth is to me, we got a first hand look at what can hurt us when attempting to reach our full potential. I'm still rooting for Arthur Agee, William Gates and their families.

    • @lefty206
      @lefty206 Před 2 lety

      🙏🏿

    • @JH-us6zp
      @JH-us6zp Před 2 lety

      give arthur and will a follow on their podcast - czcams.com/users/HoopDreamsThePodcast

  • @jayskywalker5049
    @jayskywalker5049 Před 2 lety +5

    HOOP DREAMS SHOULD BE SHOWN TO EVERY HIGH SCHOOL ATHLETE...IT SHOULD BE A MANDATORY VIEWING

    • @JH-us6zp
      @JH-us6zp Před 2 lety +1

      give arthur and will a follow on their podcast - czcams.com/users/HoopDreamsThePodcast

  • @bradpeters6076
    @bradpeters6076 Před 2 lety +5

    Hoop Dreams is the GOAT documentary. I've noticed many basketball content creators on You Tube using sad, melancholly jazz for their background music, I have to imagine the doc inspiring that production style.

  • @johnashley6720
    @johnashley6720 Před 2 lety +16

    Arthur did play for the Winnipeg Cyclones, with Darryl Dawkins coaching him.

    • @CoachVFitness
      @CoachVFitness Před 2 lety

      FACTS...Good dude...liked the wpg nighlife too. kwan johnson was the best player on that team..

    • @joeystylezleaks
      @joeystylezleaks Před 2 lety

      Forgot about that team

  • @jasonoliver1034
    @jasonoliver1034 Před 2 lety +15

    I 100% agree Hoop Dreams is still an incredible documentary. I'm glad you made a video of this story. "Much Respect" Cant' wait for the next one 💯

    • @JH-us6zp
      @JH-us6zp Před 2 lety

      give arthur and will a follow on their podcast - czcams.com/users/HoopDreamsThePodcast

  • @antwainhudson8196
    @antwainhudson8196 Před 2 lety +30

    Love the videos! How about a stunted growth Jordan vs everybody? Like all the superstars he denied a championship during his era like Reggie Miller, Karl Malone, John Stockton, the Knicks just to name a few.

    • @williamr4053
      @williamr4053 Před 2 lety +7

      I really like this idea. So many players waking with cold sweats from Jordan.

    • @onlyone23km
      @onlyone23km Před 2 lety +3

      John Stockton and Patrick Ewing were already covered.

    • @Mario_N64
      @Mario_N64 Před rokem

      Without Dennis Rodman, the Jazz would have beaten the Bulls at least once in the finals.

  • @allengoodwin6962
    @allengoodwin6962 Před 2 lety +4

    Arthur Agee look like a low key Terrell Owens. Lol. Seriously great video. I grew up watching Hoops Dreams and it is still my favorite sports documentary of all time. It taught me nothing is promised nor guaranteed in life.

  • @ech8014
    @ech8014 Před 2 lety +9

    That movie and resonated so much with a lot of hoppers. Growing up in the D and playing around that same time seeing what Author had to go through was like looking in a mirror for a lot of us. The game saved a lot of us, in spite of missing dads, poverty, lack of support or guidance. Great movie and once again great video bro ✊🏾💙
    S/N: My favorite part of the movie is when coach Ping realizes had he kept Author he would have definitely won at least two state championships. 😂

    • @pohunta
      @pohunta Před 2 lety +1

      Yea it was. Ping even admitted as much.

    • @JH-us6zp
      @JH-us6zp Před 2 lety +1

      give arthur and will a follow on their podcast - czcams.com/users/HoopDreamsThePodcast

  • @GHOST91141
    @GHOST91141 Před 2 lety +13

    That scene in the movie when Arthur dad showed up to the court and left to go buy drugs was sad

    • @brooklynknite
      @brooklynknite Před 2 lety +6

      I got that movie. I actually remember that part, it was sad.

    • @johnmay4423
      @johnmay4423 Před 2 lety +1

      Gave me chills when I saw it as a kid and again just now

    • @henrywitherspoon8064
      @henrywitherspoon8064 Před 2 lety +2

      That scene was sad to see

    • @gangsterofluv2990
      @gangsterofluv2990 Před 2 lety

      Did this guy get his start on the Star report?

    • @onlyone23km
      @onlyone23km Před 2 lety

      Is that what he left for? I was wondering why that happened!

  • @ebe7945
    @ebe7945 Před 2 lety +5

    I feel like seeing Hoop Dreams is an unspoken right of passage for a young athlete . True Cult Classic.

  • @soupp187
    @soupp187 Před 2 lety +5

    Arthur also played in that TNT Slamball league back in 2002. I remember watching the draft and seeing him get picked up.
    It was some trampoline made-for-T.V. basketball leagues that was short lived..

  • @thepeopleschamp9076
    @thepeopleschamp9076 Před 2 lety +5

    There's this one part in the doc where his parents are discussing tuition for St. Joe's, you could see the look of disdain on Arthur's face after his father claimed they could pay it. It was a look that said "Why are you even here?". You could literally see Arthur's relationship with his father change as he got older. It felt like he saw the good in his father as a kid, but as a teen and young adult, you could see how annoyed he was whenever his father came around.

    • @Mario_N64
      @Mario_N64 Před rokem

      He realized that he was full of shit.

    • @Theterminato2013
      @Theterminato2013 Před rokem

      True that. I think he was annoyed and resented his father for being hooked on crack cocaine and abusing his mom in his earlier years. Thankfully Bo overcame his addiction to crack cocaine, stop drug dealing and got his life together in the middle of Arthur’s junior year of HS.

  • @bookaufman9643
    @bookaufman9643 Před 2 lety +11

    I remember watching hoop dreams at the movie theater when it first came out. It's one of the Great sports documentaries of all time. What I remember the most about that movie when I think about it is the way that Catholic private school treated both of the young prospects that we get to know in this movie. Arthur had been going to horrible schools and he was very far behind and that didn't seem to matter to the school until they realize that Arthur was pretty raw and probably didn't have much of a chance to make the varsity team. After that everything that Arthur did wrong they got on them about and within weeks they had them out of the school and he was back at the shitty School in the hood the other main character was a much better basketball player at that stage and started on the varsity team earlier than I think anyone has ever done. They treated him extremely well until he got injured and wasn't making the contribution that they thought he would.. They weren't really happy with him having a kid either. He ended up getting a scholarship to Marquette which was a really good basketball school back then while Arthur ended up playing at a small school in Arkansas if I can remember. I'm sure you're going to talk about it in your video I've only listened to the first 30 seconds I just started to remember all of this shit. What you really learn is nobody gives a shit about you if you're not playing well. They don't care if your dad's going to prison or your sister and brother can't eat. They'll help you out as long as you keep putting up 20.

    • @johnnystlouis8081
      @johnnystlouis8081 Před rokem

      Dope! Never knew it was released in the actual theaters

    • @bookaufman9643
      @bookaufman9643 Před rokem

      @@johnnystlouis8081 it's considered a classic documentary. It was the biggest documentary of the year it was released and probably for the next couple years. It didn't play at some big regional theater or anything you'd only see it at an art house theater or any other places specialized in documentary films but it had a really big TV presence. I think HBO played it quite a bit.

    • @Mario_N64
      @Mario_N64 Před rokem

      The school was looking for its next Isaiah Thomas.

  • @izzy2802
    @izzy2802 Před 2 lety +6

    Thanks for covering Hoops dream bruh! I always wondered what happened to Arthur Agee.

  • @tonystarks5811
    @tonystarks5811 Před 2 lety +5

    Thank you for this. I just knew you forgot or didn't think it was worth covering. You are the GOAT at what you do. Real talk SG.

  • @georwill11
    @georwill11 Před 2 lety +7

    Arthur Agee had a triumphant story. I think you have an unrealistic view of Arthur. He went as far as he could with the basketball route. He played basketball in college he wasn’t an NBA player that’s millions of people. Salute to Arthur

  • @Pointyshoes00
    @Pointyshoes00 Před 2 lety +4

    This movie was amazing and super in-depth on lives of what many go thru. You felt it!

  • @rooseveltdarbey9493
    @rooseveltdarbey9493 Před 2 lety +4

    I remember watching this movie and just loving both of there stories. This was before social media so we watched it on VHS and DVDs. You're absolutely right it's also one of my top 3 basketball movies.

  • @jerryalexander8803
    @jerryalexander8803 Před 2 lety +4

    I think I shed a tear when Arthur Agee and his team won that City Championship

  • @federicowicho8802
    @federicowicho8802 Před 2 lety +5

    I saw hoop dreams for the first time at 11 years old and it still is my favorite doc…love AA if he would’ve had his dad not strung out and shown him to believe in himself and have his confidence instilled earlier in high school he would be in the league..he would’ve been Pat Beverly before Pat Beverly…fun fact they went to the same high school

  • @bbryant9455
    @bbryant9455 Před 2 lety +4

    Excellent documentary. Grew up watching it. Read the book ten years ago. Hoop dreams was so good that Siskel & Ebert had it on the biggest Oscars snub list of 1994. Incredible. Shout out Arthur "Tuss" Agee & William Gates 💯

    • @JH-us6zp
      @JH-us6zp Před 2 lety

      give arthur and will a follow on their podcast - czcams.com/users/HoopDreamsThePodcast

  • @robleavold84
    @robleavold84 Před 2 lety +3

    Must have seen hoop dreams 50 times through the years will always love this documentary.

  • @mzdeesuite201
    @mzdeesuite201 Před 2 lety +6

    I was thinking about this documentary. Hoop Dreams is one of the best not just basketball doc but of all time. I saw on CZcams Arthur Agee was a producer on a doc featuring Pat Bev.

    • @onlyone23km
      @onlyone23km Před 2 lety +1

      I saw it on Showtime and HBO Max.

    • @JH-us6zp
      @JH-us6zp Před 2 lety

      give arthur and will a follow on their podcast - czcams.com/users/HoopDreamsThePodcast

  • @hardrockcafedallas
    @hardrockcafedallas Před 2 lety +2

    Can't look at it as a sad story, brother. The brother made a living. Still an inspiration

  • @tylerkinney2558
    @tylerkinney2558 Před 2 lety +4

    Did ya thing on this one my guy! Great movie, even better analysis. You’re a phenomenal story teller you & flemlo really underground goats dawg. Never stop inspiring the youth🔥🔥

  • @T.H.E.O.R.Y.
    @T.H.E.O.R.Y. Před 2 lety +5

    Off rip, this idea is *brilliant.*
    HD was a classic, and who among us doesn't or didn't have hoop dreams?

    • @JH-us6zp
      @JH-us6zp Před 2 lety

      give arthur and will a follow on their podcast - czcams.com/users/HoopDreamsThePodcast

  • @mrkeylo1206
    @mrkeylo1206 Před 2 lety +3

    You should do Howard Nathan next since he was on Hoop Dreams tied to William Gates and Arthur Agee's story...
    Howard Nathan won Illinois Mr. Basketball in 1991 over Juwan Howard, Michael Finley, and Tom Kleinschmidt...
    Howard Nathan was a high school legend at Peoria Manuel, winning a state title in 91 and runner-up in 88 his freshman year...
    He was a McDonald's All-American at only 5 feet 11 and played a year at De Paul...
    R.I.P. Howard Nathan, Illinois basketball legend...

  • @charles..9662
    @charles..9662 Před 2 lety +4

    Hoops dreams is n always going to be a classic ✨️one of the best basketball movies ever

  • @baltimoreyo1633
    @baltimoreyo1633 Před 2 lety +4

    Man I wanted Arthur to make it so bad he really was getting it out of the mud

  • @LavishFB
    @LavishFB Před 2 lety +1

    Thank you for this @stuntedgrowth I remember watching this year's ago I forgot all about this documentary. I appreciate your videos 💯

  • @gainztrain9890
    @gainztrain9890 Před 2 lety +10

    Bruh I never hoped a kid made it to the NBA like I did Arthur Agee... I watched hoop dreams over n over n I rooted for him to get to the league so hard as a kid.. I knew Will Gates wasn't gonna make it back then bcuz his knees were shot before he was outta high school.. RIP Bo Agee got murdered.. I can still here Arthur's sisters n my head when Arthur was killin him n horse " its raining Bo ☔", 🤣🤣🤣🤣best doc ever

    • @authornahsun634
      @authornahsun634 Před 2 lety +5

      The "make it rain" scene is classic
      💯

    • @gainztrain9890
      @gainztrain9890 Před 2 lety +1

      @@authornahsun634 🤣🤣big facts

    • @onlyone23km
      @onlyone23km Před 2 lety +1

      It would’ve been nice to have seen them both make it. Even though Will’s knee was shot, he still made it to Marquette. And not only did Bo get murdered, Curtis Gates got killed, too!

    • @gainztrain9890
      @gainztrain9890 Před 2 lety

      @@onlyone23km ur absolutely right I forgot gates bro got killed too

    • @KDubb-ws9zc
      @KDubb-ws9zc Před rokem +1

      Will got run into the ground by Coach Pingatore

  • @NoirEtBlancVie
    @NoirEtBlancVie Před 2 lety +1

    Great look back. A truly important documentary.

  • @johntheprofessional5039
    @johntheprofessional5039 Před 2 lety +5

    Back then JUCOs put out a lot of pros like Larry Johnson, Darvin Ham and Sean Kemp.

    • @imaginethat3026
      @imaginethat3026 Před 2 lety +3

      Shawn Marion too

    • @darrylnelson05
      @darrylnelson05 Před 2 lety

      Lj and Kemp were elite players held down by grades not skills.

    • @maniacmasturbator2411
      @maniacmasturbator2411 Před rokem

      @@darrylnelson05 Kemp was supposed to go to Kentucky but got kicked out for apparently stealing stuff from a teammate (the coach’s son). So he went to JC and then turned pro.
      I think the Prop 48 ruling caused a good number of players to go the JC route. Nick Van Exel is another case, he went to JC before going to Cincinnati. Isaiah Rider went to a JC before UNLV

    • @darrylnelson05
      @darrylnelson05 Před rokem

      @@maniacmasturbator2411 Kemp was a Prop 48 kid. He was ineligible, which lead to his off court trouble at UK and trip to the JC.

  • @djbornpeaceallah7544
    @djbornpeaceallah7544 Před 7 měsíci +1

    The goal was always to get paid playing basketball and Arthur Agee accomplished that. By Arthur's Senior year He became a good high school basketball guard who had good ball handling skills, he was a good shooter, he was a good defender, he could pass the ball well, he was playing above the rim (dunking by the end of his sophomore year) and was extremely fast and quick. Arthur and Derrick Zinnerman made a great back court which caused trouble for a lot of teams including Chicago Westinghouse, Chicago King (26-2) and Batavia (27-2) which were big wins for Marshall that year. Can't forget Cesare Christian and Quadell Kimball great play in the front court. The Batavia game was great for Arthur. Especially in the second half. Arthur (15 pts) outplayed all American guard Lamar Justice (8 pts) in that game. Cesare and Derrick Z played great as well. Cesare was a good inside player that could shoot from the outside. Anyway that 1991 Marshall team was good there speed caused trouble for the other teams. Anyway Arthur ended up playing professional basketball. In college he started four years 2 at Mineral Area and 2 at Arkansas State which is a great accomplishment, Derrick Zinnerman played college ball at Kennedy King and I believe Cesare played college ball too. Not sure about Quadell Kimble.

  • @lefty206
    @lefty206 Před 2 lety

    Much respect man. All of your videos show the infinite ways so many kids with so much potential fall between the cracks on the way to the league or any type of pro basketball. Hope the youngsters are learning from it!

  • @CM-ft9ep
    @CM-ft9ep Před 2 lety

    You just keep getting better and better at this. Salute.

  • @gj5789
    @gj5789 Před 2 lety +1

    Great video this movie was big for most kids born in 80’s to early 90’s. These type of documentaries are priceless! Cant wait for William. RIP Curtis and Bo✊🏾

  • @Boy_Bookman803
    @Boy_Bookman803 Před 2 lety +2

    Facts. One of if not the best basketball films ever.. I've watched it numerous times.. great video bro

  • @DaBoff858
    @DaBoff858 Před 2 lety +1

    Man i saw this Movie and it blew my mind... Still a great Documentary, LOL you can see what kind of enviroment it was back then playing High school and College sports. Great Video like always man.

  • @rickywright
    @rickywright Před 2 lety +4

    Hoop Dream was my favorite documentary because the doc\movie was at my high school John Marshall Metropolitan (class of 89). If it was AAU and prep school during those time Arthur could have a D1 scholarship and be playing professionally somewhere. His cousin or brother playing professionally in New Zealand (He played two years at Iona). Great story and RIP to Arthur father.

    • @williamdean4775
      @williamdean4775 Před 5 měsíci

      He wouldn't have a D1 scholarship... Arthur didn't have the grades or the SAT score. He had matured to being a D1 level guard by his senior year. But he didn't have the academic qualifications

  • @BigDiscussions76Sports

    Excellent feature. Yes all these things factored into what happened. His Dad and lack of focus in the classroom was huge.

  • @maniacmasturbator2411
    @maniacmasturbator2411 Před 2 lety +3

    The simple answer is that it’s really damn hard to make the NBA. He managed to play D1 basketball, which is already really impressive and difficult to begin with.
    3 percent of high school basketball players play college basketball (only 1% D1), and only 1% of college players go on to play in the NBA.

  • @jasonallen3678
    @jasonallen3678 Před 2 lety

    Thanks for this one bro ✌

  • @vizionaryentertainment8464

    I mean its pretty simple why both guys in the documentary didn't pan out. William was pushed way too hard to point where he admitted to hating basketball by the end of the movie. Arthur had the skill but wasn't pushed enough he would of benefitted playing in a program like Coach Pingatore had. Both needed exactly what the other had

    • @rooseveltdarbey9493
      @rooseveltdarbey9493 Před 2 lety +1

      Both of them would have definitely made it today in this social media era, and if both had gone to a division 1 school.

    • @lytgang123
      @lytgang123 Před 2 lety +1

      Agreed

  • @samgunz1
    @samgunz1 Před 2 lety

    Wow u did this one... good shit 💯

  • @Charlotte_Exotic_Spotter
    @Charlotte_Exotic_Spotter Před 2 lety +1

    I’ve watched this movie so many times and it never gets old.

  • @TheEricBrandNYC
    @TheEricBrandNYC Před 2 lety

    Dope I love these videos

  • @matsm8711
    @matsm8711 Před 2 lety

    Great Job!🔥🔥🔥

  • @kckassidysmom
    @kckassidysmom Před 2 lety +2

    Me and my sister used to watch them all the time I loved Bo and Sheila They did the that they could💯

  • @jthrillz7288
    @jthrillz7288 Před 2 lety +9

    Two reasons: Pingatore saw he couldn't control Agee like he did with William. Secondly, Agee grew out of loving basketball as much as he did at the beginning of the documentary. And much apart of that reason was him going to St. Joseph's and that awful experience he endured being out of his element, his home life, his environment, no one nurturing him and his talent enough, and him being young in general.

    • @user-vu7us9sw9i
      @user-vu7us9sw9i Před 2 lety +2

      I definitely noticed a change in his love for the game. I understand the difficulty of a child growing up under the stress of adult issues. I remember the thoughts and feelings of traumatic situations while I was practicing and during games. It's impossible to focus at times.

  • @MrDeepee69
    @MrDeepee69 Před 2 lety +1

    Great piece here !!!! Any who grew up in the 90s ,love basket ball and poor felt this movie

  • @natashamiller5383
    @natashamiller5383 Před 2 lety +3

    There is a far deeper story to Arthur and in my opinion he is a story of triumph and perseverance. Despite of all the factors thought fought against him he continues his journey and is inspiring children everywhere the chances of getting to the nba are small and inner city youth need to see it’s not always going to be rainbows Arthur is a motivational speaker entrepreneur actor and great father and role model look up his curriculum and know that You have the key to Control your destiny. Fan for life

    • @professorxaviour3649
      @professorxaviour3649 Před 2 lety

      Exactly queen. What is this dude on the video talking about?? Agees story is not a sad story. And education and school work is not important to make the nba or play overseas. This dude who wrote the video must be a Thomas sowell disciple. His whole philosophy is based off of what white people deem successful and right! What Arthur does now is incredible. This dude who made the video is a hater and doesn’t understand black culture. And how the black community works.

    • @JH-us6zp
      @JH-us6zp Před 2 lety

      See what they ar up to now -> give arthur and will a follow on their podcast - czcams.com/users/HoopDreamsThePodcast

  • @vinnysmoove
    @vinnysmoove Před 2 lety

    Damm the title brought me back. Can't wait to watch this.

  • @Chronicthekid
    @Chronicthekid Před rokem +1

    Any kid that wants to make it pro in sports needs to watch this documentary. Don’t get me wrong going pro is a dream we all had as kids but we forget that for every Messi there’s a thousand Mario Hernandez Slash. We fall in love with the glamour of our favorites athletes but we neglect the skills and luck they had throughout their ENTIRE life.

  • @solochill81
    @solochill81 Před 2 lety +1

    Definitely a cool ass story my man. Was one of my favorite movies in highschool man. Def glad to see dude is OK after a tragic childhood, as many can contest too.

  • @mikejonesjr22
    @mikejonesjr22 Před 2 lety

    My cousins and I use to watch this movie for motivation growing up. Thank you for reminding me

  • @eXoMuZiK
    @eXoMuZiK Před 2 lety

    bro dont change nothing music nothing ur videos are 🔥 and very enjoyable to watch

  • @ManovSteelo
    @ManovSteelo Před 2 lety +2

    Such a great choice for Stunted Growth -- I like these off-the-beaten-path ones (e.g., Corey Magette).
    Would like to see one on Jacque Vaughn and Kiwane Garriso. Olujimi Mann would be a good one to tackle, also.

  • @MrZaShun
    @MrZaShun Před 2 lety

    I been waiting on this one as a OG

  • @PharaohLawLess1
    @PharaohLawLess1 Před 2 lety

    That documentary brook my heart bcuz I was in those same shoes. I excelled academically but I wasn’t heavily recruited out of high school which made me switch focus from basketball to music

  • @beezy22
    @beezy22 Před 2 lety +2

    Salute And Respect Stunted Growth…Years Ago, I watched Hoop Dreams on VHS And it was a fantastic and wonderful documentary…..can you do one on Earl The Pearl Monroe?….

  • @monroeharris7638
    @monroeharris7638 Před 2 lety +1

    Much respect to Arthur Agee’s journey ✌🏾

  • @willclinton468
    @willclinton468 Před 2 lety +3

    If your doing more movies I suggest the story of Rebound the story of Earl Manigault...Kareem called him the best player he ever saw

  • @garysomerville1912
    @garysomerville1912 Před 2 lety +1

    Grew up watching hoop dreams on vhs and when was time for me to sign for college i signed to a 2 yr juco in Missouri ..im from MD...Mineral Area College...I Get There Not Thinking Anything ...1 Day Im In The Gym looking at the banners and i see Arthur Agee Name on one of the teams who won all conference and region.. Blew my mind i grew up watching this and signed at same school...and we won conference as well in 05 and got a banner...Arthur college teammate was our coach my 2nd yr Cory Tate ..and the legend Coach Gray was coach 1st yr before retiring

  • @Waverunner21
    @Waverunner21 Před rokem +1

    The best sports documentary

  • @PBCkiller23
    @PBCkiller23 Před 2 lety

    Watching your reignited that passion that I once had for the game I have been teaching the youth in my neighborhood of Baltimore thanks to your videos in seeing this amazing film growing up sparked my interest in the sport back when I was younger lol time Flys just wish I could have a do over what we call it a Mulligan lol

  • @gamefimetaverse9800
    @gamefimetaverse9800 Před 2 lety

    Grew up on HD thank you

  • @RobTurner8126
    @RobTurner8126 Před 2 lety +2

    Every time I watch this movie I cry. It showed me fairytales don’t exist. Foot work on point!!

    • @entertainingblackmanvideos7691
      @entertainingblackmanvideos7691 Před 2 lety

      Black men crying shocked society says black men don't have emotions

    • @RobTurner8126
      @RobTurner8126 Před 2 lety

      @@entertainingblackmanvideos7691 it is ok to have emotions but it’s not ok to be emotional. Society has never been good to us so I don’t listen but I do pay attention. As I was told when I was child keep ya head on a swivel an everybody not your friend.

    • @entertainingblackmanvideos7691
      @entertainingblackmanvideos7691 Před 2 lety +1

      @@RobTurner8126 I agree society treats black women with respect and are willing to help them but black men we get the aggressive angry stereotype that even Arthur and Williams had to deal with being black teenagers trying to make it in life.

    • @RobTurner8126
      @RobTurner8126 Před 2 lety

      @@entertainingblackmanvideos7691 pussy has always cost more then an arm an a leg. A man really don’t need help we supposed to be able to do everything .we do need mentors. author did the best he could with what he had it hurt him to see his father crumbled an he stop believing he went further than his dad could ever go. hell my pops left me an was a crack head too. But I wasn’t about to let that get me in this manhood shit you stand on your ten right or wrong. You slowly start to see that failure is the real reward. Look at sole in the hole damn near the same story only one that made it was Kyle above the rim an Jesus shuttlesworth he got game. But regardless what’s going on Fam hold your head high ain’t nothing better then being the man you still can become.

  • @torachan23
    @torachan23 Před 2 lety +3

    I really wanted Arthur to make it.

  • @omarjudah6911
    @omarjudah6911 Před 2 lety +2

    Yo I seen this documentary in elementary school I’m 40ty yo!! Classic one!!

  • @Theterminato2013
    @Theterminato2013 Před rokem +1

    My favorite part of the movie is that after St Joseph lost to Nazareth, Pingatore met with Arthur and you can see the regret on his face of giving up on him during his sophomore year. Than he look even dumber during the State tournament when he was at the audience seeing Marshall led by Arthur finish 3rd place.

  • @jackiekerr3543
    @jackiekerr3543 Před 2 lety +1

    Classic movie I remember looking at this back in the day

  • @platinumjeweler
    @platinumjeweler Před 4 měsíci

    The home life of Arthur and William played a huge role in their failure. No father guidance, no one in the home had good work ethics, they put all hope into their children to be in the NBA and save the family, a recipe for failure. Nice to see each of them find a life after basketball and better one than their parents had.

  • @336legend6
    @336legend6 Před 2 lety

    I gotta rewatch hoop dreams. Totally forgot about it

  • @donaldb93
    @donaldb93 Před 2 lety +2

    His life isn't a sad ending just because he didn't make the NBA

  • @gilfordmccormack8140
    @gilfordmccormack8140 Před 2 lety

    One of my favorite documentaries.

  • @tyrekesantana8588
    @tyrekesantana8588 Před 2 lety

    Favorite documentary ever

  • @kman215
    @kman215 Před 2 lety

    Ah hoop dreams. If you haven't watched this, highly recommend you do. Amazing documentary

  • @CSDonohue11
    @CSDonohue11 Před 2 lety

    Man… I haven’t seen this in so long !
    I actually kind of forgot about it .
    Like the details of it ,
    I remember Hoop Dreams but as for the actual footage it has really slipped My mind.